*Official 2015 Philadelphia Eagles* - Winning when it doesnt count (2 Viewers)

[MattFancy]

Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't Bradford a sub-60% passer for his career?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't Bradford a sub-60% passer for his career?

If you have time listen to the presser. He pretty much answered your exact question. Said he watched every pass.

Said some times QB's are not accurate and WR's make good catches

Said stats lie. Could be WR's fault dropped passes etc

Listen to it if you can

 

[MattFancy]

Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't Bradford a sub-60% passer for his career?

If you have time listen to the presser. He pretty much answered your exact question.

Said he watched every pass.

Said some times QB's are not accurate and WR's make good catches

Said stats lie. Could be WR's gaukt dropped passes etc

Listen to it.

Could buy the WRs part of the equation, but over a career? I just don't quite buy it. Maybe a new system will help him, but I don't think he's some super accurate passer.

 

[Prowler]

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet

Former #Chargers RB Ryan Mathews is on a plane to Philly. He has agreed to terms on a 3-year, $12M deal, source said, pending physical.

Adam SchefterVerified account ‏@AdamSchefter

Eagles and former Chargers RB Ryan Mathews officially have reached agreement on 3-year, $11.5 million deal that includes $5M gtd, per source

Sound very similar to: Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter ·

Frank Gore's deal now officially signed, per @RosenhausSports: 3 years for $12 million, including $8.5 million in the first 2 years.

 

[Bob Magaw]

Chip, when asked about trading up for mariota: "let's dispell that right now. We would never mortgage our future to trade up for Mariota."

what's it like in Philly right now?

"There's some bad acid going around".That's what it's like in philly right now

Haven't seen a reaction like this since Altamont.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nxwmmSMdfU

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't Bradford a sub-60% passer for his career?

If you have time listen to the presser. He pretty much answered your exact question.Said he watched every pass.

Said some times QB's are not accurate and WR's make good catches

Said stats lie. Could be WR's gaukt dropped passes etc

Listen to it.

Could buy the WRs part of the equation, but over a career? I just don't quite buy it. Maybe a new system will help him, but I don't think he's some super accurate passer.

He said they ONLY dealt with the Rams for Nick too.

I know he watched every snap and I know me and you didn't lol. It is what it is.

 

[Max Power]

Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't Bradford a sub-60% passer for his career?

If you have time listen to the presser. He pretty much answered your exact question.Said he watched every pass.

Said some times QB's are not accurate and WR's make good catches

Said stats lie. Could be WR's fault dropped passes etc

Listen to it if you can

I'll agree stats don't tell the whole story, but production is production. You cant skew that.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't Bradford a sub-60% passer for his career?

If you have time listen to the presser. He pretty much answered your exact question.Said he watched every pass.

Said some times QB's are not accurate and WR's make good catches

Said stats lie. Could be WR's fault dropped passes etc

Listen to it if you can

I'll agree stats don't tell the whole story, but production is production. You cant skew that.

Production from NFL HC Chip Kelly is way different than ours.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

THIS

@MikeClayNFL: Chip answers every question with detail and even throws in some extra. Response is that everything he said is a lie. Why even talk?

 

[Insein]

THIS

@MikeClayNFL: Chip answers every question with detail and even throws in some extra. Response is that everything he said is a lie. Why even talk?

I listened. The first round pick was a bs response back at Eskin.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

THIS

@MikeClayNFL: Chip answers every question with detail and even throws in some extra. Response is that everything he said is a lie. Why even talk?

I listened. The first round pick was a bs response back at Eskin.

He was asked that question additional times and answered the same way.

He said he dealt only with the Rams too. Why her we agree or not, he wanted him. Same as what Peter King reported.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@AdamSchefter: Eagles and former Chargers RB Ryan Mathews officially have reached agreement on 3-year, $11.5 million deal that includes $5M gtd, per source

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@MattLombardo975: "I didn't think I needed control of personnel," Chip Kelly said. "That was a decision that our owner made." #Eagles http://t.co/2gd2ihLVb4

@LesBowen: Chip: power shift was Lurie's idea, Mariota isn't coming http://t.co/aJuWmDv8Chvia @phillysport

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@PSchrags: Sources tell me Eagles are now "very much" in play in the DeMarco Murray chase.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

@AdamSchefter: Eagles and former Chargers RB Ryan Mathews officially have reached agreement on 3-year, $11.5 million deal that includes $5M gtd, per source

I'll be honest, I like that deal way more than the deal Gore got.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@RavensInsider: Walter Thurmond Eagles deal: one-year, $3.25 million, $1.25 salary, $2 million bonus, up to $750,000 playtime incentives

 

[Deranged Hermit]

@PSchrags: Sources tell me Eagles are now "very much" in play in the DeMarco Murray chase.

Why? You have Sproles, Polk and now Mathews. Unless they plan on putting Sproles in the Slot at WR or something.

 

[Omniscient Deity]

@PSchrags: Sources tell me Eagles are now "very much" in play in the DeMarco Murray chase.

####.Just when I started feeling better about this.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Maybe they drop Polk or Sproles?

 

[ShaHBucks]

No pressure on Marriota to come right in and perform ehh?

 

[ShaHBucks]

I guess we can start speculating on what college job Chip is taking.

 

[Omniscient Deity]

Maybe they drop Polk or Sproles?

Spending that amount of money on RB's is just stupid.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Maybe they drop Polk or Sproles?

Spending that amount of money on RB's is just stupid.

Not when you have it and want to run the ball.

Like saying re Packers are stupid for having 2 WR's making 10+ million.

 

[Omniscient Deity]

Maybe they drop Polk or Sproles?

Spending that amount of money on RB's is just stupid.

Not when you have it and want to run the ball. Like saying re Packers are stupid for having 2 WR's making 10+ million.

Well I also think GB would have been better off spending that money on defense. Cobb isn't a big/dominant WR.

 

[flapgreen]

This is awesome

 

[12punch]

entering last season what would the mccoy owner in your league have said if he got offered matthews straight up for him?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

This was a good point by Chip

@AlbertBreer: 5) He acknowledged there's a buy-low principle to a number of Eagles acquisitions (Bradford, Mathews, Alonso). Maybe sports science ...

Chip specificlly said "Without injury these guys are not available."

 

[Bigboy10182000]

On ESPN they're saying Mathews money is that of a depth guy.

 

[Insein]

Maybe they drop Polk or Sproles?

Spending that amount of money on RB's is just stupid.

Not when you have it and want to run the ball. Like saying re Packers are stupid for having 2 WR's making 10+ million.

If they can Murray at $7mil or so, I feel much better having Mathews and Murray over McCoy for the same price.

 

[Omniscient Deity]

On ESPN they're saying Mathews money is that of a depth guy.

For smarter teams that's starting RB money.

 

[Omniscient Deity]

Maybe they drop Polk or Sproles?

Spending that amount of money on RB's is just stupid.

Not when you have it and want to run the ball. Like saying re Packers are stupid for having 2 WR's making 10+ million.

If they can Murray at $7mil or so, I feel much better having Mathews and Murray over McCoy for the same price.

Sure, but hasn't he already turned down that much from Dallas?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@ZBerm: Chip Kelly on McCoy trade: "The way we looked at it is we got Kiko Alonso and Byron Maxwell for LeSean McCoy.

 

[cstu]

@AdamSchefter: Eagles and former Chargers RB Ryan Mathews officially have reached agreement on 3-year, $11.5 million deal that includes $5M gtd, per source

Roughly the same as Ingram the first two years.

 

[Insein]

Maybe they drop Polk or Sproles?

Spending that amount of money on RB's is just stupid.

Not when you have it and want to run the ball. Like saying re Packers are stupid for having 2 WR's making 10+ million.

If they can Murray at $7mil or so, I feel much better having Mathews and Murray over McCoy for the same price.

Sure, but hasn't he already turned down that much from Dallas?

But has anyone offered that to him on the market? He has the Jags, Raiders and Eagles. Which team gives you a chance to stick it to Jerruh twice a year?

 

[Long Ball Larry]

@AdamSchefter: Eagles and former Chargers RB Ryan Mathews officially have reached agreement on 3-year, $11.5 million deal that includes $5M gtd, per source

I'll be honest, I like that deal way more than the deal Gore got.

i agree. i think that Mathews should at least match Gore's productivity for that time-frame and has the higher upside. and for less dead money if he does get hurt.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@ZBerm: Chip: "If [bradford] never tore his ACL, he'd never be traded. ...The injury rate in the NFL is 100%. Just depends on the severity of it."

 

[Bigboy10182000]

The ESPN guys states that him and Bradford are very close. Roommates in college

 

[12punch]

College roommates in college

orly?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@smartfootball: In presser Chip implies that signing injured players is a way to get value/buy low on players in FA; implies alternative is just to outspend

 

[Bigboy10182000]

College roommates in college

orly?

 

[Snotbubbles]

@ZBerm: Chip: "If [bradford] never tore his ACL, he'd never be traded. ...The injury rate in the NFL is 100%. Just depends on the severity of it."

This logic is baffling. That's like saying I could never afford this Bentley if it wasn't totaled.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

So yeah, unless this guy does a 180 he won't play much

@Tim_McManus: "Howie had final say on that [Marcus Smith] decision." Kelly talks front-office shakeup: http://t.co/rjdsPmV4HQ

 

[Snotbubbles]

@smartfootball: In presser Chip implies that signing injured players is a way to get value/buy low on players in FA; implies alternative is just to outspend

Guess we're drafting that CB out of Oregon then.

 

[Billy Bats]

@ZBerm: Chip Kelly on McCoy trade: "The way we looked at it is we got Kiko Alonso and Byron Maxwell for LeSean McCoy.

The way i look at it is we got Bradford for McCoy. Spin it how you want Chippy, spending 13m on a questionable QB who doesnt bring that much more to the table than Nick Foles is bewildering. To me at least.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@ZBerm: Chip: "We wouldn't have traded for him if we didn't think he had a tremendous upside as a QB. ...We've done our due diligence."

@ZBerm: Chip on Bradford:"He's one of the most accurate throwers when you see him throw the football. I think he's smart. I think he's wired right."

@smartfootball: Chip also said he talked to Bob Stoops and Kevin Wilson about Sam Bradford before pulling trigger on the trade. (Not exactly a surprise...)

 

[Omniscient Deity]

Isn't Foles also coming off of an injury and this "sold low"?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Isn't Foles also coming off of an injury and this "sold low"?

Yes. His exact words were "you have to give up something to get something"

 

[Omniscient Deity]

@ZBerm: Chip: "We wouldn't have traded for him if we didn't think he had a tremendous upside as a QB. ...We've done our due diligence."

@ZBerm: Chip on Bradford:"He's one of the most accurate throwers when you see him throw the football. I think he's smart. I think he's wired right."

He definitely had more natural talent as a passer than Foles.

Before the shoulder injury/surgery. That's why he hasn't lived up to the hype in the NFL.

 

[Omniscient Deity]

Isn't Foles also coming off of an injury and this "sold low"?

Yes. His exact words were "you have to give up something to get something"

But he gave up the cheaper, younger QB with better numbers and added the higher draft pick.

This is coming from someone who was on board with almost all moves made up until yesterday.

 

[Amused to Death]

So now that we've all bought our Sam Bradford jerseys - who's the target at 20?