Bigboy10182000
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@MattLombardo975: #Eagles @ProFootballTalk: Jeff Fisher tells PFT Live he was offered a low first-round pick for Sam Bradford, but Fisher wanted Nick Foles.
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*Official 2015 Philadelphia Eagles* - Winning when it doesnt count (3 Viewers)
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GoBirds
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Why else are you all crying in the Eagles thread about it? Move on, it's ok.Dal has an Elite LT, WR and G and you think you just got their best player?
jurb26
Footballguy
Crying? Your even more delusional than I thought. I'm not remotely a Cowgirl fan.Why else are you all crying in the Eagles thread about it? Move on, it's ok.Dal has an Elite LT, WR and G and you think you just got their best player?
JaxBill
Footballguy
At the Foles press conference, the STL GM was saying that he was approached by multiple teams at combine about Bradford but didn't want to trade him without getting a replacement.
GoBirds
Footballguy
jurb26, on 13 Mar 2015 - 2:16 PM, said:Crying? Your even more delusional than I thought. I'm not remotely a Cowgirl fan.GoBirds, on 13 Mar 2015 - 2:14 PM, said:Why else are you all crying in the Eagles thread about it? Move on, it's ok.jurb26, on 13 Mar 2015 - 1:49 PM, said:Dal has an Elite LT, WR and G and you think you just got their best player?
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Quiet day, not used to that.
What is the cap situation now. I'm guessing deMeco Ryans is probably a goner too, so you could probably safely add 6 mil to that figure.
What is the cap situation now. I'm guessing deMeco Ryans is probably a goner too, so you could probably safely add 6 mil to that figure.
Bruce Hammond
Footballguy
Now that he has all the little stuff out of the way, he's working on something truly big. Those take more time.Bushead said:
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Cut Demeco Ryans and sign Dez Bryant to really screw Dallas. Lol.
Bruce Hammond
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Don't be surprised to see one or more of the following WRs become an Eagle by the end of the weekend: Bowe, Nicks, Stevie Johnson, Shorts, Mike Williams.
I did NOT forget to list Crabtree by the way. He'll probably eventually crawl his way to a team like the Raiders.
I did NOT forget to list Crabtree by the way. He'll probably eventually crawl his way to a team like the Raiders.
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Ted Lange as your Bartender
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Shorts' checkered injury history would make him a perfect fit. Too bad he wasn't a Duck or Sooner.
(Actually he would intrigue me the most of those names)
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
The only one I think they may kick the tires on woukd be Bowe.
I think our first pick is for a WR
Bruce Hammond
Footballguy
I think the 1st pick has a good chance of being WR too . But they will want some vets they can depend as well. Huff is raw, Cooper pedestrian, and that just leaves Matthews. Bowe might get too pricey depending on who else is considering him, but the others should come cheaply.
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Bigboy10182000
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Top 20 games is on NFLN. Seattle versus Dallas. If you're interested in seeing Murray.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Everything I heard about Parker was good. I assumed he was going to get a lot of money.
Bigboy10182000
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@ZBerm: My hunch: Eagles didn't try to match..: RT @RavensInsider: Nate Allen Raiders deal: 4-yr, $23M, $11.8M gtd, $4M bonus
Insein
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GoBirds
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Bigboy10182000
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That contract may have made other FA safties untouchable for us.
We can't afford Nate Allen money. There's a sentence you didn't think youd hear.
We can't afford Nate Allen money. There's a sentence you didn't think youd hear.
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rjv
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what abou D. Moore from OAK?
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Insein
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Bruce Hammond
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ShaHBucks
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McCoy, C. Williams, Foles, Cole, and Maclin for Murray, Matthews, Maxwell, Bradford, Sanchez, B. Graham, Alonso, +5-10 mil in 2015 cap and 55mil in guaranteed money in the future?
I assume Bradford will get paid soon, making this even more mind blowing. He's worth 10x more than Nick Foles? Foles has a higher comp%, higher QB rate, better winning record, more TDs (in 13 less games) and his ACL have yet to need repair. wtf? Where is the margin for error?
Theoretically you're a few players/ bounced fumbles from a playoff run. Was this team that bad that you had to do a massive overhaul?
You can let me off of the Chip Kelly Bandwagon here at the corner
I assume Bradford will get paid soon, making this even more mind blowing. He's worth 10x more than Nick Foles? Foles has a higher comp%, higher QB rate, better winning record, more TDs (in 13 less games) and his ACL have yet to need repair. wtf? Where is the margin for error?
Theoretically you're a few players/ bounced fumbles from a playoff run. Was this team that bad that you had to do a massive overhaul?
You can let me off of the Chip Kelly Bandwagon here at the corner
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Amused to Death
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I've maintained all along, whatever Chip does just has to result in wins on the field or at least show you have a plan and show improvement. I haven't waivered even though some moves are head scratchers. But none of the moves have resulted in losses ON THE FIELD.Theoretically you're a few players/ bounced fumbles from a playoff run. Was this team that bad that you had to do a massive overhaul?
You can let me off of the Chip Kelly Bandwagon here at the corner
You can jump off the bandwagon now, but don't look to come back if the plan starts to actually work.
Balco
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Makes sense. Back to back 10 win seasons with a roster that previously struggled, and you want off the bandwagon?McCoy, C. Williams, Foles, Cole, and Maclin for Murray, Matthews, Maxwell, Bradford, Sanchez, B. Graham, Alonso, +5-10 mil in 2015 cap and 55mil in guaranteed money in the future?
I assume Bradford will get paid soon, making this even more mind blowing. He's worth 10x more than Nick Foles? Foles has a higher comp%, higher QB rate, better winning record, more TDs (in 13 less games) and his ACL have yet to need repair. wtf? Where is the margin for error?
Theoretically you're a few players/ bounced fumbles from a playoff run. Was this team that bad that you had to do a massive overhaul?
You can let me off of the Chip Kelly Bandwagon here at the corner
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Buddy Ball 2K3
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See ya! I put my train conductor on. Chooo Chooo!McCoy, C. Williams, Foles, Cole, and Maclin for Murray, Matthews, Maxwell, Bradford, Sanchez, B. Graham, Alonso, +5-10 mil in 2015 cap and 55mil in guaranteed money in the future?
I assume Bradford will get paid soon, making this even more mind blowing. He's worth 10x more than Nick Foles? Foles has a higher comp%, higher QB rate, better winning record, more TDs (in 13 less games) and his ACL have yet to need repair. wtf? Where is the margin for error?
Theoretically you're a few players/ bounced fumbles from a playoff run. Was this team that bad that you had to do a massive overhaul?
You can let me off of the Chip Kelly Bandwagon here at the corner
unckeyherb
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I disagreeMcCoy, C. Williams, Foles, Cole, and Maclin for Murray, Matthews, Maxwell, Bradford, Sanchez, B. Graham, Alonso, +5-10 mil in 2015 cap and 55mil in guaranteed money in the future?
I assume Bradford will get paid soon, making this even more mind blowing. He's worth 10x more than Nick Foles? Foles has a higher comp%, higher QB rate, better winning record, more TDs (in 13 less games) and his ACL have yet to need repair. wtf? Where is the margin for error?
Theoretically you're a few players/ bounced fumbles from a playoff run. Was this team that bad that you had to do a massive overhaul?
You can let me off of the Chip Kelly Bandwagon here at the corner
Insein
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Like Hinkie, we gave no choice but to ride it out. Plenty of time to complain later.McCoy, C. Williams, Foles, Cole, and Maclin for Murray, Matthews, Maxwell, Bradford, Sanchez, B. Graham, Alonso, +5-10 mil in 2015 cap and 55mil in guaranteed money in the future?
I assume Bradford will get paid soon, making this even more mind blowing. He's worth 10x more than Nick Foles? Foles has a higher comp%, higher QB rate, better winning record, more TDs (in 13 less games) and his ACL have yet to need repair. wtf? Where is the margin for error?
Theoretically you're a few players/ bounced fumbles from a playoff run. Was this team that bad that you had to do a massive overhaul?
You can let me off of the Chip Kelly Bandwagon here at the corner
ShaHBucks
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I can do whatever I wantI've maintained all along, whatever Chip does just has to result in wins on the field or at least show you have a plan and show improvement. I haven't waivered even though some moves are head scratchers. But none of the moves have resulted in losses ON THE FIELD.Theoretically you're a few players/ bounced fumbles from a playoff run. Was this team that bad that you had to do a massive overhaul?
You can let me off of the Chip Kelly Bandwagon here at the corner
You can jump off the bandwagon now, but don't look to come back if the plan starts to actually work.
JetMaxx
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I've maintained all along, whatever Chip does just has to result in wins on the field or at least show you have a plan and show improvement. I haven't waivered even though some moves are head scratchers. But none of the moves have resulted in losses ON THE FIELD.You can jump off the bandwagon now, but don't look to come back if the plan starts to actually work.Theoretically you're a few players/ bounced fumbles from a playoff run. Was this team that bad that you had to do a massive overhaul?
You can let me off of the Chip Kelly Bandwagon here at the corner
Choo choo Chip!
Bigboy10182000
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@TerezPaylor: I can confirm the #Chiefs will sign Ron Parker. Agent Justin Turner tells me the deal is worth $30 million in total money over five years.
Amused to Death
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No you can't. You may think so, but once you're off the bandwagon there's no coming back. Stick with the team through good and bad or else you're just a fairweather fraud. Criticize all you want, but no jumping off - especially before they've even played a game.I can do whatever I wantI've maintained all along, whatever Chip does just has to result in wins on the field or at least show you have a plan and show improvement. I haven't waivered even though some moves are head scratchers. But none of the moves have resulted in losses ON THE FIELD.Theoretically you're a few players/ bounced fumbles from a playoff run. Was this team that bad that you had to do a massive overhaul?
You can let me off of the Chip Kelly Bandwagon here at the corner
You can jump off the bandwagon now, but don't look to come back if the plan starts to actually work.
Like I've said, I'm skeptical but I'm sticking around to see how it plays out.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
He may end up in college and we may end up with a pile of crap at the end. 
If anyone is jumping ship now is because we lost a player or 2 that they liked and I understand. As much as I loved Foles and Shady I love the Eagles more. I trust Chip as a GM and coach and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. After seeing all the reports regarding Chip and Howie and seeing Chip this off-season it's clear to me that we weren't even near what Chip wanted, and those teams won 10 games each season.
Let's give this a little time.
If anyone is jumping ship now is because we lost a player or 2 that they liked and I understand. As much as I loved Foles and Shady I love the Eagles more. I trust Chip as a GM and coach and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. After seeing all the reports regarding Chip and Howie and seeing Chip this off-season it's clear to me that we weren't even near what Chip wanted, and those teams won 10 games each season.
Let's give this a little time.
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Donny Loved Bowling
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I'm disappointed to see Parker off the board, but it seems like the Eagles weren't interested in paying big $ to any S not named McCourty. I had been hoping they would address their safety need in free agency, allowing them to focus on BPA in the draft. None of the remaining FA options should cost much, anyone still worth a look?
eta: I've also had my fingers crossed that they take a run at Andre Holmes. But I would definitely put a call in to Greg Jennings today.
eta: I've also had my fingers crossed that they take a run at Andre Holmes. But I would definitely put a call in to Greg Jennings today.
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Insein
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Need to factor in the growth/development/extra offseason for guys like Mathews/Huff/Ertz.
I think an improved Mathews + an improved Huff + an improved Ertz = Last year's Maclin + Last Year's Huff + Last year's Ertz. Cooper stays a wash. We pretty much need to replace last year's Mathews production to be a wash. I think we can easily get last years Mathews production out of a 1st round wr.
If we go wr round 1, I think our receiving corps will be better then last year's. Obvious upgrade at RB and D too.
Insein
Footballguy
I think so too. I'm fine going into the season with Matthews, Huff and Rookie We as our corps. I don't count Cooper. He's there because they can't cut or trade him.
Insein
Footballguy
I think if he falls to 20, chip takes him and makes him the #3. Bradford then gets no extension, has a prove it year and if he plays well but not better than Foles, they ship him for a first next year. If he plays well and wins a couple of playoff games, extend him, cut Sanchez and have Mariota backup till Bradford gets hurt.
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You mean to '20' right?
I don't think Bradford fetches a 1st next year unless he plays outstanding. Also can't we lose him for nothing if we don't give him an extension?
Insein
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The problem with cooper is the contract he signed it actually costs more against the cap to cut him than to keep him.
Billy Bats
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So now we assume that any rook WR will easily put up 67/870/8? That's asking a lot IMO. For every Jordan Matthews there are 3 Josh Huffs.
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Insein
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I don't think you need them to because the offense will be different this year. They had 621 passes to 474 runs. I think Kelly ideally wants 550-550.
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