*Official 2015 Philadelphia Eagles* - Winning when it doesnt count (2 Viewers)

[John Bender]

thank god.

 

[Insein]

I'm not sure Chip set us back too much going forward. He pretty much just pulled this team apart over the last few years and now we can sort of start at the bottom and start building now, hopefully with the right coach who knows what he's doing.

Exactly. He inherited a 4 win team and left the next guy with a 6 win team. Not the end of the world.

Well, I mean, he spent a couple of years pulling apart the rest of what was the Andy Reid era. It would have been nice if while doing so he put in place a lot to be excited about moving forward...but...I'm not sure how to say what I'm trying to say other than I feel like we are at a point now, sort of at the bottom, where a new guy can come in and really just focus on building instead of pulling apart. I don't know, but I'm just trying to be optimistic.

The 4-12 Reid finale wasn't really a 4-12 team. They had a ton of talent, Andy totally lost the locker room and it was his death march. There were a few holes that needed to be filled, but there was a lot of talent to work with there. And somehow Chip got rid of everything that was actually good and did little to fill the gaps.

They were every bit of a 4-12 team. They were 4-8 the previous year before winning 4 meaningless games at the end.

 

[Ladsud]

Would be awesome if they ran the offense under center this week, stick murray 8 yards back and pound him up the middle for 150 yards lol.

 

[GoBirds]

Would be awesome if they ran the offense under center this week, stick murray 8 yards back and pound him up the middle for 150 yards lol.

It will be interesting. Unfortunately I think we will fail once again at tanking a meaningless game.

 

[renesauz]

Just saw the news, and I'm more thn a little shocked. Overall, I don't like it...I think Chip should have been given one more year. Chip the coach had a new GM and a huge turnaround in personel. Chip the GM had...one year. A lot of criticism of his moves, but most of those moves I feel were solid, or at the least represented a fair gamble. The Foles for Bradford move was clearly the right move provided they can resign Bradford (which ironically, just got more difficult!) Can't blame him on Maclin or the O-line either...the contracts they got elsewhere were above market value. DeSean wasn't just his decision, and most Eagles fans agree with it. The Mccoy move needs another year to fully evaluate, but looks at worst a slight loss. That just leaves the Murray move...clearly a bad one in retrospect but it's the only glaringly bad one. The draft is too early to evaluate, but appears at worst OK.

How could they not give him one more year? Trolls aside, even if you dislike Chip you can't say he destroyed the team that badly. Really wanted to see what he could do next year, I'm worried we are going to be worse off totally starting from scratch.

I really hope we end up hearing what went down.

Agreed 100% He didn't destroy this team.

I think bradford is more likely to leave now. He doesn't want a new system, but he's gonna get one no matter what now. Might as well pick the team that pays the most and has the best personel. Not sure that's us. I would like him to stay but would be kinda shocked if he did

This is a big fear of mine. The FA class is weak, the draft is weak. Bradford showed big flashes of what he can be, and his ceiling as at worst an average starting QB, and potentially a bit higher. Re-signing him just got harder, not easier.

Step 1 cut demarco

No point in this. Guys coming off 400 touch seasons almost always underwhelm the following year. If it actually saved a few million against the cap, it might make some sense....but it doesn't save a SINGLE DIME to the cap. No choice but to keep him and pray he rebounds. If he doesn't, he's the league's most expensive, albeit probably one the leagues best, third stringers.

Overall, I don't feel good about this.

 

[Insein]

Lurie has a serious boner for Roseman huh?

Cab you guys just promise me I never have to see Billy Davis again?

Good news is our division is horrible and regardless we are most likely contending right away.

Yeah, I don't think that I love the idea of howie being back in power. Would like to see Chris polian or Omar khan or even Tom gamble, or someone else with a real football background.

I want Howie back. We had a guy with a football background that didn't do squat with it. I want the guy that had a plan and a solid 2012 draft. Let's see where he can go with it. At least let him clean up this mess. He got us out of the end of the Reid era pretty nice.

 

[Domination]

I'm not sure Chip set us back too much going forward. He pretty much just pulled this team apart over the last few years and now we can sort of start at the bottom and start building now, hopefully with the right coach who knows what he's doing.

Exactly. He inherited a 4 win team and left the next guy with a 6 win team. Not the end of the world.

Well, I mean, he spent a couple of years pulling apart the rest of what was the Andy Reid era. It would have been nice if while doing so he put in place a lot to be excited about moving forward...but...I'm not sure how to say what I'm trying to say other than I feel like we are at a point now, sort of at the bottom, where a new guy can come in and really just focus on building instead of pulling apart. I don't know, but I'm just trying to be optimistic.

The 4-12 Reid finale wasn't really a 4-12 team. They had a ton of talent, Andy totally lost the locker room and it was his death march. There were a few holes that needed to be filled, but there was a lot of talent to work with there. And somehow Chip got rid of everything that was actually good and did little to fill the gaps.

They were every bit of a 4-12 team. They were 4-8 the previous year before winning 4 meaningless games at the end.

I personally would much rather start with the pieces the Andy was leaving, rather than what Chip is leaving behind now. This might be a 6 win team, rather than a 4 win team. But this team does not have many building block for the future, and do to last off season we are short on cap space and drafts picks.

 

[Insein]

I'm not sure Chip set us back too much going forward. He pretty much just pulled this team apart over the last few years and now we can sort of start at the bottom and start building now, hopefully with the right coach who knows what he's doing.

Exactly. He inherited a 4 win team and left the next guy with a 6 win team. Not the end of the world.

Well, I mean, he spent a couple of years pulling apart the rest of what was the Andy Reid era. It would have been nice if while doing so he put in place a lot to be excited about moving forward...but...I'm not sure how to say what I'm trying to say other than I feel like we are at a point now, sort of at the bottom, where a new guy can come in and really just focus on building instead of pulling apart. I don't know, but I'm just trying to be optimistic.

The 4-12 Reid finale wasn't really a 4-12 team. They had a ton of talent, Andy totally lost the locker room and it was his death march. There were a few holes that needed to be filled, but there was a lot of talent to work with there. And somehow Chip got rid of everything that was actually good and did little to fill the gaps.

They were every bit of a 4-12 team. They were 4-8 the previous year before winning 4 meaningless games at the end.

I personally would much rather start with the pieces the Andy was leaving, rather than what Chip is leaving behind now. This might be a 6 win team, rather than a 4 win team. But this team does not have many building block for the future, and do to last off season we are short on cap space and drafts picks.

That had a lot to do with Howie drafting Cox, Kendricks, Curry and Foles to restock the team. Now that Howie is back in charge, I'm interested to see how he cleans up Chips mess.

 

[fatness]

I'm genuinely shocked.

So am I. I figured he'd some people added to the personnel department (whether he wanted them or not) to help him out there, and he'd get at least another year. The Skins did something similar with Gruden last offseason -- brought in a QB coach and an offensive line coach because it was obvious to everyone that Gruden was spread too thin last year (and concentrated way too much on the QB position to the detriment of the rest of his responsibilities). I didn't think that would work for Gruden but it did. Figured that's what the Eagles would do with Kelly --- minimize his personnel responsibilities without publicly taking them away, and give him one more year.

 

[Insein]

I'm genuinely shocked.

So am I. I figured he'd some people added to the personnel department (whether he wanted them or not) to help him out there, and he'd get at least another year. The Skins did something similar with Gruden last offseason -- brought in a QB coach and an offensive line coach because it was obvious to everyone that Gruden was spread too thin last year (and concentrated way too much on the QB position to the detriment of the rest of his responsibilities). I didn't think that would work for Gruden but it did. Figured that's what the Eagles would do with Kelly --- minimize his personnel responsibilities without publicly taking them away, and give him one more year.

I think that was the plan and Chip said no. So Lurie pulled the trigger.

 

[GoBirds]

If Billy Davis gets promoted to head coach I'm out.

 

[modogg]

I'm genuinely shocked.

So am I. I figured he'd some people added to the personnel department (whether he wanted them or not) to help him out there, and he'd get at least another year. The Skins did something similar with Gruden last offseason -- brought in a QB coach and an offensive line coach because it was obvious to everyone that Gruden was spread too thin last year (and concentrated way too much on the QB position to the detriment of the rest of his responsibilities). I didn't think that would work for Gruden but it did. Figured that's what the Eagles would do with Kelly --- minimize his personnel responsibilities without publicly taking them away, and give him one more year.

I think that was the plan and Chip said no. So Lurie pulled the trigger.

i have a hard time seeing this, but really have no idea what kind of guy Chip is. he brought in a lot of what he liked, i am not sure why he would just turn his back on it unless he felt he lost the team too. I think if he also took this approach he has to know he has a job somewhere else pretty much guaranteed. but would be strange if this became this strained this quick. and i'm glad to see Lurie has enough control of his organization that we didn't have tons of rumours coming the whole time

 

[fatness]

Looks like this was brewing for several weeks. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/29/report-kelly-balked-when-lurie-asked-him-to-give-up-personnel/

Sal Paolantonio of ESPN reports that Lurie has been considering changes to the structure of the Eagles franchise for weeks, and one of those changes Lurie considered was keeping Kelly but stripping him of personnel control. But when Lurie proposed that to Kelly during a recent meeting, Kelly balked at the idea.

When Kelly wouldn’t agree to give up personnel and focus only on coaching, that’s when Lurie decided it just wasn’t working with Kelly. According to Paolantonio, Lurie decided to fire Kelly now, rather than waiting until after Week 17, because he figured it would give the Eagles a jump on attracting some of the best candidates to replace him.

 

[modogg]

So, do you guys think we can get a good indication of how much Chip really had this team, and how much they were "his" team, by how they play this weekend? like most games this year, i honestly do not know what to expect. if they come out inspired maybe they wanted Chip gone the whole time? if they come out flat and playing undisciplined maybe the team is kind of quit too.

Was really telling the 1st and 2nd week how "beaten" the team looked. I think it is obvious, even if Bradford is playing well, he isn't quite the leader of this team. Maybe that is because of his personality, how he came on the team, or maybe he was held down by Chip's shadow.

So many questions, and i just hope that getting rid of Chip at least brings clarity to a lot of this team. even if it means the team is worse for the upcoming year, i would just like to know what the team has

 

[fatness]

Would be awesome if they ran the offense under center this week, stick murray 8 yards back and pound him up the middle for 150 yards lol.

 

[Old Smiley]

Shurmur should buy everybody a cheeseburger for lunch tomorrow. Like everybody lighting a cigarette when Hitler died.

 

[Insein]

We seriously need to lose this week. It's not just the draft pick. Our schedule next year would be St Louis in London and Detroit if we lose vs Seattle and Green Bay/Minn if we win.

For the love of God lose the ####### game.

 

[flapgreen]

Shurmur should buy everybody a cheeseburger for lunch tomorrow. Like everybody lighting a cigarette when Hitler died.

 

[sspunisher]

Wow Kelly is something else. He'll be back in college in two years, max.

Why?

Because it's the "chic" thing to say.

He never struck me as a coach who wanted to be in the NFL. He had countless offers and rejected many of them many times before joining Philly. Was a bit "convenient" that he finally left for the NFL once Oregon started getting investigated, not that the investigation amounted to much but either way, it's worth mentioning.

He clearly has an NFL mind and I even recall many NFL coaches consulting him when he was in college. He also has that head coach presence about him, from being a disciplinarian to something as simple as being organized.

But two things really stand out: His inability to handle the business side of the NFL and players just don't seem to like him (some issues we saw with Saban, Harbaugh, Schiano for example).

In terms of the business side, inability is a strong word, it's more like inexperience at the moment but I feel like the writing is already on the wall. Contract situations, trade demands, hold outs, skipping workouts, these are all things a college coach doesn't usually deal with. He will never have the control in the NFL that he had in college.

In terms of players not liking him, yes, he's a no-nonsense, straight forward coach but for some reason he doesn't command respect from players the way a BB or Parcels did. His players are complaining the way Schiano, Harbaugh and Saban's players did.

Bottom line, there's a constant inflow and outflow of players in college, no one has to deal with him for more than 4-5 years and they are all a bunch of 18-22 year olds anyway. I feel like he'll eventually realize college is where he prefers to be after this NFL coaching experiment is over.

Saw this coming a mile away.

 

[flysack]

He fell into the classic college coach problem. They're used to a constant turnover in players, so they think when they get to the NFL they can play fantasy football and remake rosters on the fly and bully grown men into performing instead of treating them like grown men.

Remember when Spurrier destroyed Washington? Remember that great Danny Wuerffel experiment?

Has any college coach besides Jimmy Johnson been any good in the NFL? Don't tell me Barry Switzer. A monkey could have gotten that team to the superbowl.

Harbaugh, sure. But even that was crushed by personality issues (granted most think it was the ownership's problem). And Jim played in the NFL for over a decade.

ETA: The crazy thing is Chip almost pulled it off. He waited for the perfect roster to fit his system, then slipped in and had success. Then his arrogance and inability to deal with NFL players destroyed him. Who didn't think this roster remake was going to flop? You don't blow up a 10-6 team because of pissing contests. What an a$s.

 

[Deamon]

We seriously need to lose this week. It's not just the draft pick. Our schedule next year would be St Louis in London and Detroit if we lose vs Seattle and Green Bay/Minn if we win.

For the love of God lose the ####### game.

Don't love going to London next year. But would be nice to play St. Lou and Detroit over the other two.

I'm losing faith that we lose though

 

[Deamon]

Still in shock

 

[Deamon]

Would be awesome if they ran the offense under center this week, stick murray 8 yards back and pound him up the middle for 150 yards lol.

Yeah I love this idea

but then we'd win And that would hurt us many many many ways

 

[KellysHeroes]

Would be awesome if they ran the offense under center this week, stick murray 8 yards back and pound him up the middle for 150 yards lol.

Yeah I love this idea

but then we'd win And that would hurt us many many many ways

wonder if they keep Murray now, good buy low.

 

[JuniorNB]

We seriously need to lose this week. It's not just the draft pick. Our schedule next year would be St Louis in London and Detroit if we lose vs Seattle and Green Bay/Minn if we win.

For the love of God lose the ####### game.

Don't love going to London next year. But would be nice to play St. Lou and Detroit over the other two. I'm losing faith that we lose though

I could see Beckham having a 200 yard, 3 touchdown game after being suspended last week. A defense I'm behind it all the way

 

[Donny Loved Bowling]

He fell into the classic college coach problem. They're used to a constant turnover in players, so they think when they get to the NFL they can play fantasy football and remake rosters on the fly and bully grown men into performing instead of treating them like grown men.

Remember when Spurrier destroyed Washington? Remember that great Danny Wuerffel experiment?

Has any college coach besides Jimmy Johnson been any good in the NFL? Don't tell me Barry Switzer. A monkey could have gotten that team to the superbowl.

Harbaugh, sure. But even that was crushed by personality issues (granted most think it was the ownership's problem). And Jim played in the NFL for over a decade.

ETA: The crazy thing is Chip almost pulled it off. He waited for the perfect roster to fit his system, then slipped in and had success. Then his arrogance and inability to deal with NFL players destroyed him. Who didn't think this roster remake was going to flop? You don't blow up a 10-6 team because of pissing contests. What an ###.

Um, Pete Carroll.

 

[GroveDiesel]

The reports I saw yesterday said the Eagles are looking to being in Tom Donahoe to run the personnel. That's terrible for Eagles fans if so. He was horrendous at evaluation with the Bills.

 

[GoBirds]

He fell into the classic college coach problem. They're used to a constant turnover in players, so they think when they get to the NFL they can play fantasy football and remake rosters on the fly and bully grown men into performing instead of treating them like grown men.

Remember when Spurrier destroyed Washington? Remember that great Danny Wuerffel experiment?

Has any college coach besides Jimmy Johnson been any good in the NFL? Don't tell me Barry Switzer. A monkey could have gotten that team to the superbowl.

Harbaugh, sure. But even that was crushed by personality issues (granted most think it was the ownership's problem). And Jim played in the NFL for over a decade.

ETA: The crazy thing is Chip almost pulled it off. He waited for the perfect roster to fit his system, then slipped in and had success. Then his arrogance and inability to deal with NFL players destroyed him. Who didn't think this roster remake was going to flop? You don't blow up a 10-6 team because of pissing contests. What an ###.

Um, Pete Carroll.

Anytime I see the lazy Spurrier comparison I stop reading.

 

[GoBirds]

The reports I saw yesterday said the Eagles are looking to being in Tom Donahoe to run the personnel. That's terrible for Eagles fans if so. He was horrendous at evaluation with the Bills.

Bilichick was horrendous for the Browns, can't believe anyone would give him a job.

 

[fatness]

He fell into the classic college coach problem. They're used to a constant turnover in players, so they think when they get to the NFL they can play fantasy football and remake rosters on the fly and bully grown men into performing instead of treating them like grown men.

Remember when Spurrier destroyed Washington? Remember that great Danny Wuerffel experiment?

I was going to bring up the same thing. Kelly had far more success than Spurrier but the problems and the decline were the same.

 

[flysack]

He fell into the classic college coach problem. They're used to a constant turnover in players, so they think when they get to the NFL they can play fantasy football and remake rosters on the fly and bully grown men into performing instead of treating them like grown men.

Remember when Spurrier destroyed Washington? Remember that great Danny Wuerffel experiment?

Has any college coach besides Jimmy Johnson been any good in the NFL? Don't tell me Barry Switzer. A monkey could have gotten that team to the superbowl.

Harbaugh, sure. But even that was crushed by personality issues (granted most think it was the ownership's problem). And Jim played in the NFL for over a decade.

ETA: The crazy thing is Chip almost pulled it off. He waited for the perfect roster to fit his system, then slipped in and had success. Then his arrogance and inability to deal with NFL players destroyed him. Who didn't think this roster remake was going to flop? You don't blow up a 10-6 team because of pissing contests. What an ###.

Um, Pete Carroll.

True. Forgot about him. But that was his THIRD time through. He was an NFL coach twice before USC.

 

[flysack]

The reports I saw yesterday said the Eagles are looking to being in Tom Donahoe to run the personnel. That's terrible for Eagles fans if so. He was horrendous at evaluation with the Bills.

Bilichick was horrendous for the Browns, can't believe anyone would give him a job.

Oh you're right. Have fun with the Donahoe drafts. I'm sure the Eagles will be in the Superbowl no time soon.

 

[JuniorNB]

He fell into the classic college coach problem. They're used to a constant turnover in players, so they think when they get to the NFL they can play fantasy football and remake rosters on the fly and bully grown men into performing instead of treating them like grown men.

Remember when Spurrier destroyed Washington? Remember that great Danny Wuerffel experiment?

Has any college coach besides Jimmy Johnson been any good in the NFL? Don't tell me Barry Switzer. A monkey could have gotten that team to the superbowl.

Harbaugh, sure. But even that was crushed by personality issues (granted most think it was the ownership's problem). And Jim played in the NFL for over a decade.

ETA: The crazy thing is Chip almost pulled it off. He waited for the perfect roster to fit his system, then slipped in and had success. Then his arrogance and inability to deal with NFL players destroyed him. Who didn't think this roster remake was going to flop? You don't blow up a 10-6 team because of pissing contests. What an ###.

Um, Pete Carroll.

True. Forgot about him. But that was his THIRD time through. He was an NFL coach twice before USC.

**** Vermeil

 

[GoBirds]

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/12/29/10686148/howie-roseman-eagles-general-manager-personnel-department-chip-kelly-jeffrey-lurie

 

[Insein]

The reports I saw yesterday said the Eagles are looking to being in Tom Donahoe to run the personnel. That's terrible for Eagles fans if so. He was horrendous at evaluation with the Bills.

Bilichick was horrendous for the Browns, can't believe anyone would give him a job.

Oh you're right. Have fun with the Donahoe drafts. I'm sure the Eagles will be in the Superbowl no time soon.

Supposedly Howie Rosemen is back in charge.

 

[dhockster]

Okay, Optimist projection:

Eagles Strengths: LB (Hicks, Kendricks, Alonso, Barwin), Cox, Former rushing Champ (Murray), Former #1 overall QB pick, young receivers with some talent.

Play to the strengths: Hire McDermott as HC. He has done great on a team that has great LB's. Keep Shurmur as OC. This hopefully keeps Bradford in town. Get Murray running out of the eye in a more tradional offense. bring in Mathews as a change of pace back. Draft some young OLineman. Rushing game improves. Improved running game gives Bradford more time in the pocket. Young receivers develop, especially agholar. Defense improves tremendously due to a real defensive coach, and not having to be on the field 40 minutes a game. Eagles are competitive in a still weak NFC East.

I think there will be some overall improvement because some of the talent on this team was being misused or badly coached (defense and Murray)

 

[GoBirds]

http://www.csnphilly.com/football-philadelphia-eagles/marcus-smith-doesnt-see-gap-between-him-connor-barwin-brandon-graham

Finally, Chip is out of the way so Howie can unleash Marcus Smith!

 

[fbelange]

Another 3-4 years of the Eagles being, well, the Eagles.

I love it, no wonder this organization has no rings.

 

[GoBirds]

Okay, Optimist projection:

Eagles Strengths: LB (Hicks, Kendricks, Alonso, Barwin), Cox, Former rushing Champ (Murray), Former #1 overall QB pick, young receivers with some talent.

Play to the strengths: Hire McDermott as HC. He has done great on a team that has great LB's. Keep Shurmur as OC. This hopefully keeps Bradford in town. Get Murray running out of the eye in a more tradional offense. bring in Mathews as a change of pace back. Draft some young OLineman. Rushing game improves. Improved running game gives Bradford more time in the pocket. Young receivers develop, especially agholar. Defense improves tremendously due to a real defensive coach, and not having to be on the field 40 minutes a game. Eagles are competitive in a still weak NFC East.

I think there will be some overall improvement because some of the talent on this team was being misused or badly coached (defense and Murray)

I think I'm on the same page with this......Shurmur will hopefully keep Bradford in town for some consistency. Lets evaluate the square pegs Kelly was forcing in the round hole before dumping them and add Lineman in the draft. I know McDermott has come a long way but I wonder if he is ready as a HC. A defensive mind could be a good thing though after the Billy Davis disaster we are living.

 

[JuniorNB]

Another 3-4 years of the Eagles being, well, the Eagles.

I love it, no wonder this organization has no rings.

phew! Thanks for finally figuring out the problem. You are an NFL genius. Now tell us all why these teams have no ringsetroit Lions

Cleveland Browns

Jacksonville Jaguars

Arizona Cardinals

Tennessee Titans

San Diego Chargers

Buffalo Bills

Minnesota Vikings

Atlanta Falcons

Cincinnati Bengals

Carolina Panthers

 

[dhockster]

Another 3-4 years of the Eagles being, well, the Eagles.

I love it, no wonder this organization has no rings.

I will be surprised if we are the only NFC East team looking for a new head coach. I don't really see Coughlin making it another year.

 

[B-Deep]

Another 3-4 years of the Eagles being, well, the Eagles.

I love it, no wonder this organization has no rings.

I will be surprised if we are the only NFC East team looking for a new head coach. I don't really see Coughlin making it another year.

If the Saints and Payton part ways 3 of 4 teams could have new coaches

 

[JuniorNB]

Another 3-4 years of the Eagles being, well, the Eagles.

I love it, no wonder this organization has no rings.

I will be surprised if we are the only NFC East team looking for a new head coach. I don't really see Coughlin making it another year.

Garrett had one of the worst coaching years in NFL history. Worst record for a,team with that much talent that I can remember. Lost his QB (as many teams do) and couldn't figure out how to win a game. The Steelers, Colts, Bengals, Texans, Broncos...all lost their quarterbacks at some point and found a way to win with the backup. Hell, the Texans won last week with the very QB that Garrett couldn't.

 

[B-Deep]

Another 3-4 years of the Eagles being, well, the Eagles.

I love it, no wonder this organization has no rings.

I will be surprised if we are the only NFC East team looking for a new head coach. I don't really see Coughlin making it another year.

Garrett had one of the worst coaching years in NFL history. Worst record for a,team with that much talent that I can remember. Lost his QB (as many teams do) and couldn't figure out how to win a game. The Steelers, Colts, Bengals, Texans, Broncos...all lost their quarterbacks at some point and found a way to win with the backup. Hell, the Texans won last week with the very QB that Garrett couldn't.

and Jerry is NOT happy.

 

[fbelange]

Another 3-4 years of the Eagles being, well, the Eagles.

I love it, no wonder this organization has no rings.

phew! Thanks for finally figuring out the problem. You are an NFL genius. Now tell us all why these teams have no ringsetroit Lions

Cleveland Browns

Jacksonville Jaguars

Arizona Cardinals

Tennessee Titans

San Diego Chargers

Buffalo Bills

Minnesota Vikings

Atlanta Falcons

Cincinnati Bengals

Carolina Panthers

Bad management! Teams and fans so greedy they turnover coaching staff like a one night stand.

Bills - 4 SB's no rings. That's the only anomaly on your list.

 

[fbelange]

Another 3-4 years of the Eagles being, well, the Eagles.

I love it, no wonder this organization has no rings.

I will be surprised if we are the only NFC East team looking for a new head coach. I don't really see Coughlin making it another year.

I'm a Giants fan and although I love Coughlin, it's his time to go as well.

See, the difference between the Eagles and the Giants is that the Mara's will not fire a coach during the season. They do not make rash decisions and they don't go for all the cool new toys.

 

[JuniorNB]

Another 3-4 years of the Eagles being, well, the Eagles.

I love it, no wonder this organization has no rings.

phew! Thanks for finally figuring out the problem. You are an NFL genius. Now tell us all why these teams have no ringsetroit Lions

Cleveland Browns

Jacksonville Jaguars

Arizona Cardinals

Tennessee Titans

San Diego Chargers

Buffalo Bills

Minnesota Vikings

Atlanta Falcons

Cincinnati Bengals

Carolina Panthers

Bad management! Teams and fans so greedy they turnover coaching staff like a one night stand.

Bills - 4 SB's no rings. That's the only anomaly on your list.

thanks. Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to? Always looking to expand my knowledge.

 

[Amused to Death]

Please stop!! Do not give the trolls the attention they are seeking. It just trashes the thread and makes it unreadable.

 

[JuniorNB]

Another 3-4 years of the Eagles being, well, the Eagles.

I love it, no wonder this organization has no rings.

I will be surprised if we are the only NFC East team looking for a new head coach. I don't really see Coughlin making it another year.

I'm a Giants fan and although I love Coughlin, it's his time to go as well.

See, the difference between the Eagles and the Giants is that the Mara's will not fire a coach during the season. They do not make rash decisions and they don't go for all the cool new toys.

lol. So if Philly waited 5 more days, you'd have been cool with the firing?

 

[dhockster]

Another 3-4 years of the Eagles being, well, the Eagles.

I love it, no wonder this organization has no rings.

I will be surprised if we are the only NFC East team looking for a new head coach. I don't really see Coughlin making it another year.

Garrett had one of the worst coaching years in NFL history. Worst record for a,team with that much talent that I can remember. Lost his QB (as many teams do) and couldn't figure out how to win a game. The Steelers, Colts, Bengals, Texans, Broncos...all lost their quarterbacks at some point and found a way to win with the backup. Hell, the Texans won last week with the very QB that Garrett couldn't.

I think Garrett gets one more year unless Payton is available and will coach the Cowboys. With Romo at this stage of his career, I don't think it makes sense to change a whole lot. The Cowboys eggs are all in Romo's basket. They probably have to stick with Garrett. until Romo is done.