Official 2016 GOP thread: Is it really going to be Donald Trump?? (6 Viewers)

[Amused to Death]

But if it's true, Republicans are...crazy.

You are still mistaking support for Trump as support for the man himself.

Its the man himself that's gonna be elected if this continues.

True. And like I said before...it has more to do with what he represents than who he is.I asked in this thread or the other before. What do you want people who are pissed off to do?

Write their Congressman?

Send in a fax?

Continue voting for the lesser of two evils?

People want change and are fed up with their government. Short of assassinating members of Congress...what do you want people to do?

Gary ####ing Johnson

Who?The guy ran before and got 1%.

What does my voting for a guy who isn't going to win or has any chance in hell of winning do or accomplish?

Absolutely nothing. It is a principled vote and I respect it. But, it will not change the current system.

id rather be able to look myself in the mirror because I voted for someone who I actually wanted to win, rather than for a self-absorbed, xenophobic ######## who thinks that insulting people is campaigning. It will do nothing to "fix" the system. It will make it worse.

Yup, maybe if more people realized there are more than 2 choices we could actually get some viable 3rd party candidates. But both the Dems and the GOP are against change because they have the people where they want them - under control. They won't let a 3rd party even participate in the debates. What are they afraid of?

I voted GJ in '12 and may very well again if all I have to choose from is Hillary and the dreck the GOP keeps putting out.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Good for Walker, good exit speech and call to arms against Trump.

 

[SIDA!]

But if it's true, Republicans are...crazy.

You are still mistaking support for Trump as support for the man himself.

Its the man himself that's gonna be elected if this continues.

True. And like I said before...it has more to do with what he represents than who he is.I asked in this thread or the other before. What do you want people who are pissed off to do?

Write their Congressman?

Send in a fax?

Continue voting for the lesser of two evils?

People want change and are fed up with their government. Short of assassinating members of Congress...what do you want people to do?

Gary ####ing Johnson

Who?The guy ran before and got 1%.

What does my voting for a guy who isn't going to win or has any chance in hell of winning do or accomplish?

Absolutely nothing. It is a principled vote and I respect it. But, it will not change the current system.

id rather be able to look myself in the mirror because I voted for someone who I actually wanted to win, rather than for a self-absorbed, xenophobic ######## who thinks that insulting people is campaigning. It will do nothing to "fix" the system. It will make it worse.

Like I said, I respect your vote and don't have any qualms with it. I might go that route myself.

But, I am not sure how many times I am supposed to vote for somebody I want to actually win...when I know that that person has no shot in hell.

I have voted for a third party candidate several times. Hasn't changed a ####### thing.

And you may very well be right about Trump not fixing anything. You might be right. But, I am at the point where outside of voting for Trump there is really nothing I can do as a citizen. So, I might very well throw my vote Trump's way.

Earlier in this thread or the other, I also addressed my belief that Trump winning the nomination for the GOP would signal the death of the Republican establishment. I am pretty sure that that is good enough for me.

I know that voting for a third party guy that has absolutely no traction will not accomplish that goal.

By all means, if Gary Johnson could manage to reach double digits in the polls, I would go that way. The reality is, you and I can sit here and say, well if everyone who thinks that way would actually support him he would be in double digits. But it just doesn't work that way...unfortunately.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Walker seemed to think he was running for President of Wisconisn.

 

[Don Quixote]

Didn't even make it as far as he did in college before dropping out.

huh? I'm not even sure your post makes any sense. How do you measure that?

And is that a hint of elitism I sense?

No elitism. Truman didn't have a college degree and was one of our greatest Presidents. Just trying to make light of his drop out from the race.

 

[timschochet]

I predicted Walker would win because he struck me as the only guy who could unify the GOP establishment with its base. Part (though not all) of his problem was they don't want to be unified.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

I predicted Walker would win

 

[Mr. Pickles]

I predicted Walker would win because he struck me as the only guy who could unify the GOP establishment with its base. Part (though not all) of his problem was they don't want to be unified.

He's Tim Pawlenty with less hair.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

one down..................

 

[Slapdash]

Too late for Mitt to run?

 

[squistion]

Too late for Mitt to run?

Democrats hope not.

 

[sho nuff]

Since, y'know, most people don't have a college degree.

And we don't want most people running our country.

Well, our current president has a college degree and he isn't any better. So did our last one.

Even as bad as Obama is on some things...yes, he is better than Scott Walker.

 

[sho nuff]

But if it's true, Republicans are...crazy.

You are still mistaking support for Trump as support for the man himself.

Its the man himself that's gonna be elected if this continues.

True. And like I said before...it has more to do with what he represents than who he is.I asked in this thread or the other before. What do you want people who are pissed off to do?

Write their Congressman?

Send in a fax?

Continue voting for the lesser of two evils?

People want change and are fed up with their government. Short of assassinating members of Congress...what do you want people to do?

Gary ####ing Johnson

Who?The guy ran before and got 1%.

What does my voting for a guy who isn't going to win or has any chance in hell of winning do or accomplish?

Absolutely nothing. It is a principled vote and I respect it. But, it will not change the current system.

id rather be able to look myself in the mirror because I voted for someone who I actually wanted to win, rather than for a self-absorbed, xenophobic ######## who thinks that insulting people is campaigning. It will do nothing to "fix" the system. It will make it worse.

Yeah, the I don't like the system, so let's vote for a guy highly likely to #### up the country.

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

http://therightstuff.biz/2015/09/21/only-trump/

This is a message to Republican primary voters who are considering voting for someone other than Ted Cruz or Donald Trump. This post is not directed at the alt-right, but at GOP primary voters.


Hispanics will kill the Republican Party and turn the US into Mexico
While Americans oppose gun control 53 to 45 overall, Hispanics support gun control 62% to 36%. More Hispanics means fewer gun rights.
While Americans support a smaller government by 48% to 41%, Hispanics support a bigger government 75% to 19%.
In the 2012 elections, Hispanics voted democrat 68% to 30%. In the 2010 midterms they voted democrat 60% to 38%, and in the 2014 midterms they voted democrat 62% to 36%.
On Obamacare, Americans disapprove 53% to 41%, while Hispanics are split 47% to 47%.
Hispanics are also more likely to support hate speech laws 50% to 24%, while white Americans slightly oppose hate speech laws 41% to 37%.

Hispanics don't reflect on why the US is better than Mexico, they aren't curious one bit about it, and they aren't learning.

Any Republican president MUST win on immigration or—quite simply and matter-of-factly—all will be lost.

It is your RIGHT to protect your country from foreign voters
They don't care that mass immigration of Mexicans to the US makes your life worse, or that it makes your children's life worse. They don't care that they're bankrupting the states that they're in and consigning future generations of Americans to poverty, unemployment and welfare.
But you're supposed to care about them or else you are a racist?

Donald Trump is absolutely committed on immigration. Only Ted Cruz is comparable.

Any candidate who supports a "pathway to citizenship" is supporting a pathway to more Democrat voters. Sure, they'll pay a fine, have to go home and come back, and maybe it'll take them two years. But eventually, they become citizens and can vote Democrat. "Pathway to citizenship" is just delayed amnesty.

 

[joffer]

"Why do Hispanics hate us?"

"Because we hate them"

"Oh, right.."

 

[BustedKnuckles]

"Why do Hispanics hate us?"

"Because we hate them"

"Oh, right.."

Paulie: [referring to African-Americans ] I don't like these people.

Rocky Balboa: You don't like em'? Well maybe they don't like you either Paulie.

Paulie: [in awe] What'd I ever do to them?

Rocky Balboa: [looks at Adrian] And they call ME "Punchy".

 

[timschochet]

http://therightstuff.biz/2015/09/21/only-trump/

This is a message to Republican primary voters who are considering voting for someone other than Ted Cruz or Donald Trump. This post is not directed at the alt-right, but at GOP primary voters.

Hispanics will kill the Republican Party and turn the US into Mexico

While Americans oppose gun control 53 to 45 overall, Hispanics support gun control 62% to 36%. More Hispanics means fewer gun rights.

While Americans support a smaller government by 48% to 41%, Hispanics support a bigger government 75% to 19%.

In the 2012 elections, Hispanics voted democrat 68% to 30%. In the 2010 midterms they voted democrat 60% to 38%, and in the 2014 midterms they voted democrat 62% to 36%.

On Obamacare, Americans disapprove 53% to 41%, while Hispanics are split 47% to 47%.

Hispanics are also more likely to support hate speech laws 50% to 24%, while white Americans slightly oppose hate speech laws 41% to 37%.

Hispanics don't reflect on why the US is better than Mexico, they aren't curious one bit about it, and they aren't learning.

Any Republican president MUST win on immigration or—quite simply and matter-of-factly—all will be lost.

It is your RIGHT to protect your country from foreign voters

They don't care that mass immigration of Mexicans to the US makes your life worse, or that it makes your children's life worse. They don't care that they're bankrupting the states that they're in and consigning future generations of Americans to poverty, unemployment and welfare.

But you're supposed to care about them or else you are a racist?

Donald Trump is absolutely committed on immigration. Only Ted Cruz is comparable.

Any candidate who supports a "pathway to citizenship" is supporting a pathway to more Democrat voters. Sure, they'll pay a fine, have to go home and come back, and maybe it'll take them two years. But eventually, they become citizens and can vote Democrat. "Pathway to citizenship" is just delayed amnesty.

This post is very instructive, as it demonstrates the difference between people who are anti-illegal immigration, and those who are racist. It is not racist to be concerned with the costs of illegal immigration, or to regard it as a cultural and/or economic detriment, or to want strict measures to end illegal immigration. It is not racist to oppose granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.

However, when you make statements such as:

Hispanics will turn the US into Mexico

Hispanics don't reflect on why the US is better than Mexico, they aren't curious one bit about it

this is when you cross the line from reasonable discourse into racism, ignorance, and bigotry.

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

This post is very instructive, as it demonstrates the difference between people who are anti-illegal immigration, and those who are racist. It is not racist to be concerned with the costs of illegal immigration, or to regard it as a cultural and/or economic detriment, or to want strict measures to end illegal immigration. It is not racist to oppose granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.

However, when you make statements such as:

Hispanics will turn the US into Mexico

Hispanics don't reflect on why the US is better than Mexico, they aren't curious one bit about it

this is when you cross the line from reasonable discourse into racism, ignorance, and bigotry.

What makes you the arbiter on what is racist and what isn't?

 

[timschochet]

This post is very instructive, as it demonstrates the difference between people who are anti-illegal immigration, and those who are racist. It is not racist to be concerned with the costs of illegal immigration, or to regard it as a cultural and/or economic detriment, or to want strict measures to end illegal immigration. It is not racist to oppose granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.

However, when you make statements such as:

Hispanics will turn the US into Mexico

Hispanics don't reflect on why the US is better than Mexico, they aren't curious one bit about it

this is when you cross the line from reasonable discourse into racism, ignorance, and bigotry.

What makes you the arbiter on what is racist and what isn't?

 

[timschochet]

This post is very instructive, as it demonstrates the difference between people who are anti-illegal immigration, and those who are racist. It is not racist to be concerned with the costs of illegal immigration, or to regard it as a cultural and/or economic detriment, or to want strict measures to end illegal immigration. It is not racist to oppose granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.

However, when you make statements such as:

Hispanics will turn the US into Mexico

Hispanics don't reflect on why the US is better than Mexico, they aren't curious one bit about it

this is when you cross the line from reasonable discourse into racism, ignorance, and bigotry.

What makes you the arbiter on what is racist and what isn't?

My good judgment.

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

This post is very instructive, as it demonstrates the difference between people who are anti-illegal immigration, and those who are racist. It is not racist to be concerned with the costs of illegal immigration, or to regard it as a cultural and/or economic detriment, or to want strict measures to end illegal immigration. It is not racist to oppose granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.

However, when you make statements such as:

Hispanics will turn the US into Mexico

Hispanics don't reflect on why the US is better than Mexico, they aren't curious one bit about it

this is when you cross the line from reasonable discourse into racism, ignorance, and bigotry.

What makes you the arbiter on what is racist and what isn't?

My good judgment.

You're not using the word racism correctly.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Walker is right. Others need to drop out as well to prevent the dilution of the vote so that Trump and the nuts don't control the conversation. The GOP is destroying itself and while I want a democrat in the White House there needs to be robust debate and competition. Trump, Cruz, Carson, Huckabee etc are bad for the party and country.

 

[jon_mx]

Is this the thread where Hillary's supporters pretend they care about the truth? TIA.

 

[Jamesbrownkid]

Walker is right. Others need to drop out as well to prevent the dilution of the vote so that Trump and the nuts don't control the conversation. The GOP is destroying itself and while I want a democrat in the White House there needs to be robust debate and competition. Trump, Cruz, Carson, Huckabee etc are bad for the party and country.

Hey, how about that pledge. Guy seems very honorable being a puppet for the establishment.

 

[Todd Andrews]

KooK GOP: No more Brown people!!!!1

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Walker is right. Others need to drop out as well to prevent the dilution of the vote so that Trump and the nuts don't control the conversation. The GOP is destroying itself and while I want a democrat in the White House there needs to be robust debate and competition. Trump, Cruz, Carson, Huckabee etc are bad for the party and country.

Hey, how about that pledge. Guy seems very honorable being a puppet for the establishment.

Country comes before party. All the pledges they sign are stupid. Blindly support a wacko, never raise taxes no matter what etc.

 

[Rove!]

Walker is right. Others need to drop out as well to prevent the dilution of the vote so that Trump and the nuts don't control the conversation. The GOP is destroying itself and while I want a democrat in the White House there needs to be robust debate and competition. Trump, Cruz, Carson, Huckabee etc are bad for the party and country.

Hey, how about that pledge. Guy seems very honorable being a puppet for the establishment.

Country comes before party. All the pledges they sign are stupid. Blindly support a wacko, never raise taxes no matter what etc.

Pledges are terrible in politics. No politician should sign up on for one....

 

[tommyGunZ]

Walker needs to be asked if he will honor the pledge and support Trump if he wins the nomination.

 

[shadrap]

http://therightstuff.biz/2015/09/21/only-trump/

This is a message to Republican primary voters who are considering voting for someone other than Ted Cruz or Donald Trump. This post is not directed at the alt-right, but at GOP primary voters.

Hispanics will kill the Republican Party and turn the US into Mexico

While Americans oppose gun control 53 to 45 overall, Hispanics support gun control 62% to 36%. More Hispanics means fewer gun rights.

While Americans support a smaller government by 48% to 41%, Hispanics support a bigger government 75% to 19%.

In the 2012 elections, Hispanics voted democrat 68% to 30%. In the 2010 midterms they voted democrat 60% to 38%, and in the 2014 midterms they voted democrat 62% to 36%.

On Obamacare, Americans disapprove 53% to 41%, while Hispanics are split 47% to 47%.

Hispanics are also more likely to support hate speech laws 50% to 24%, while white Americans slightly oppose hate speech laws 41% to 37%.

Hispanics don't reflect on why the US is better than Mexico, they aren't curious one bit about it, and they aren't learning.

Any Republican president MUST win on immigration or—quite simply and matter-of-factly—all will be lost.

It is your RIGHT to protect your country from foreign voters

They don't care that mass immigration of Mexicans to the US makes your life worse, or that it makes your children's life worse. They don't care that they're bankrupting the states that they're in and consigning future generations of Americans to poverty, unemployment and welfare.

But you're supposed to care about them or else you are a racist?

Donald Trump is absolutely committed on immigration. Only Ted Cruz is comparable.

Any candidate who supports a "pathway to citizenship" is supporting a pathway to more Democrat voters. Sure, they'll pay a fine, have to go home and come back, and maybe it'll take them two years. But eventually, they become citizens and can vote Democrat. "Pathway to citizenship" is just delayed amnesty.

This post is very instructive, as it demonstrates the difference between people who are anti-illegal immigration, and those who are racist. It is not racist to be concerned with the costs of illegal immigration, or to regard it as a cultural and/or economic detriment, or to want strict measures to end illegal immigration. It is not racist to oppose granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.However, when you make statements such as:

Hispanics will turn the US into Mexico

Hispanics don't reflect on why the US is better than Mexico, they aren't curious one bit about it

this is when you cross the line from reasonable discourse into racism, ignorance, and bigotry.

Racism again? Not surprised I guess.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

This post is very instructive, as it demonstrates the difference between people who are anti-illegal immigration, and those who are racist. It is not racist to be concerned with the costs of illegal immigration, or to regard it as a cultural and/or economic detriment, or to want strict measures to end illegal immigration. It is not racist to oppose granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.

However, when you make statements such as:

Hispanics will turn the US into Mexico

Hispanics don't reflect on why the US is better than Mexico, they aren't curious one bit about it

this is when you cross the line from reasonable discourse into racism, ignorance, and bigotry.

What makes you the arbiter on what is racist and what isn't?

My good judgment.

You're not using the word racism correctly.

Agreed! Tim like almost everyone else uses the ultra narrow definition that is pretty much impossible to meet. Racism in the US has been largely redefined out of existence as new required attributes have been added to the word.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Walker needs to be asked if he will honor the pledge and support Trump if he wins the nomination.

Yeah, Trump definitely has a reason to be pissed off, and should probably just tear up his pledge right now.

The RNC made this big show about getting them all to sign the pledge to support the eventual nominee, but since the pledge was signed, Pataki came out and said he wouldn't support Trump, then Jindal said that Trump was essentially unfit for the office of Presidency, then Walker dropped out and said they should all work together to beat Trump because he'd be so terrible.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Walker needs to be asked if he will honor the pledge and support Trump if he wins the nomination.

Yeah, Trump definitely has a reason to be pissed off, and should probably just tear up his pledge right now.The RNC made this big show about getting them all to sign the pledge to support the eventual nominee, but since the pledge was signed, Pataki came out and said he wouldn't support Trump, then Jindal said that Trump was essentially unfit for the office of Presidency, then Walker dropped out and said they should all work together to beat Trump because he'd be so terrible.

Well, there is a difference between not supporting a primary candidate or endorsing one over another versus not supporting the nominee once the primary process is complete. Walker and any other republican is free to support Bush etc and then support Trump against Clinton still.

 

[Sinn Fein]

http://therightstuff.biz/2015/09/21/only-trump/

This is a message to Republican primary voters who are considering voting for someone other than Ted Cruz or Donald Trump. This post is not directed at the alt-right, but at GOP primary voters.

Hispanics will kill the Republican Party and turn the US into Mexico

While Americans oppose gun control 53 to 45 overall, Hispanics support gun control 62% to 36%. More Hispanics means fewer gun rights.

While Americans support a smaller government by 48% to 41%, Hispanics support a bigger government 75% to 19%.

In the 2012 elections, Hispanics voted democrat 68% to 30%. In the 2010 midterms they voted democrat 60% to 38%, and in the 2014 midterms they voted democrat 62% to 36%.

On Obamacare, Americans disapprove 53% to 41%, while Hispanics are split 47% to 47%.

Hispanics are also more likely to support hate speech laws 50% to 24%, while white Americans slightly oppose hate speech laws 41% to 37%.

Hispanics don't reflect on why the US is better than Mexico, they aren't curious one bit about it, and they aren't learning.

Any Republican president MUST win on immigration or—quite simply and matter-of-factly—all will be lost.

It is your RIGHT to protect your country from foreign voters

They don't care that mass immigration of Mexicans to the US makes your life worse, or that it makes your children's life worse. They don't care that they're bankrupting the states that they're in and consigning future generations of Americans to poverty, unemployment and welfare.

But you're supposed to care about them or else you are a racist?

Donald Trump is absolutely committed on immigration. Only Ted Cruz is comparable.

Any candidate who supports a "pathway to citizenship" is supporting a pathway to more Democrat voters. Sure, they'll pay a fine, have to go home and come back, and maybe it'll take them two years. But eventually, they become citizens and can vote Democrat. "Pathway to citizenship" is just delayed amnesty.

I am confused - you say things like "Americans support..." and "Hispanics support..."

Are many Americans not Hispanic?

Are foreigners allowed to vote in US elections?

This is not "us" v. "them" - unless that is what you mean to imply

 

[timschochet]

This post is very instructive, as it demonstrates the difference between people who are anti-illegal immigration, and those who are racist. It is not racist to be concerned with the costs of illegal immigration, or to regard it as a cultural and/or economic detriment, or to want strict measures to end illegal immigration. It is not racist to oppose granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.

However, when you make statements such as:

Hispanics will turn the US into Mexico

Hispanics don't reflect on why the US is better than Mexico, they aren't curious one bit about it

this is when you cross the line from reasonable discourse into racism, ignorance, and bigotry.

What makes you the arbiter on what is racist and what isn't?

My good judgment.

You're not using the word racism correctly.

Agreed! Tim like almost everyone else uses the ultra narrow definition that is pretty much impossible to meet. Racism in the US has been largely redefined out of existence as new required attributes have been added to the word.

I don't understand this post.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Walker needs to be asked if he will honor the pledge and support Trump if he wins the nomination.

Yeah, Trump definitely has a reason to be pissed off, and should probably just tear up his pledge right now.The RNC made this big show about getting them all to sign the pledge to support the eventual nominee, but since the pledge was signed, Pataki came out and said he wouldn't support Trump, then Jindal said that Trump was essentially unfit for the office of Presidency, then Walker dropped out and said they should all work together to beat Trump because he'd be so terrible.

Well, there is a difference between not supporting a primary candidate or endorsing one over another versus not supporting the nominee once the primary process is complete. Walker and any other republican is free to support Bush etc and then support Trump against Clinton still.

I don't think the expectation of the pledge was that candidates would say "this guy really sucks but I guess you should vote for him." Not that many of the GOP candidates can actually provide sincere endorsements of Trump at this point, if he's the nominee. And there's no doubt that Hillary's SuperPAC will collect up all these video clips for the general election, if Trump gets nominated. Would be a fun ad to watch all these leading Republican figures just totally trashing Trump as being completely unfit for office.

 

[General Malaise]

Who is next to drop out?

Cruz?

Should be Huckabee but he's too stupid to recognize reality.

Running for as long as he can every four years to keep his name out there is part of his income strategy.

Cancels nothing. He's a dolt with an IQ hovering around soda cracker. The fact that he can con dumber people out of their money does not change my perception one iota.

 

[lod01]

Who is next to drop out?

Cruz?

Should be Huckabee but he's too stupid to recognize reality.

Running for as long as he can every four years to keep his name out there is part of his income strategy.

Cancels nothing. He's a dolt with an IQ hovering around soda cracker. The fact that he can con dumber people out of their money does not change my perception one iota.

He a total moron. Talk about someone you can't have running the country. Anyone thinking the earth is only 6000 years old is a moron. At least show an IQ and say something like the 6000 years in the bible is 'X' in real time.

 

[culdeus]

Any updated vegas odds?

 

[igbomb]

Who is next to drop out?

Cruz?

Should be Huckabee but he's too stupid to recognize reality.

Running for as long as he can every four years to keep his name out there is part of his income strategy.

Cancels nothing. He's a dolt with an IQ hovering around soda cracker. The fact that he can con dumber people out of their money does not change my perception one iota.

He a total moron. Talk about someone you can't have running the country. Anyone thinking the earth is only 6000 years old is a moron. At least show an IQ and say something like the 6000 years in the bible is 'X' in real time.

This goes for Carson as well. He is an evolution skeptic to put it kindly.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

This post is very instructive, as it demonstrates the difference between people who are anti-illegal immigration, and those who are racist. It is not racist to be concerned with the costs of illegal immigration, or to regard it as a cultural and/or economic detriment, or to want strict measures to end illegal immigration. It is not racist to oppose granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.

However, when you make statements such as:

Hispanics will turn the US into Mexico

Hispanics don't reflect on why the US is better than Mexico, they aren't curious one bit about it

this is when you cross the line from reasonable discourse into racism, ignorance, and bigotry.

What makes you the arbiter on what is racist and what isn't?

My good judgment.

You're not using the word racism correctly.

Agreed! Tim like almost everyone else uses the ultra narrow definition that is pretty much impossible to meet. Racism in the US has been largely redefined out of existence as new required attributes have been added to the word.

I don't understand this post.

Find any of your "so and so is not racist" post and look at your reasons why that poster is not a racist in your mind. Seldom will the reason be related to "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races" but instead over other attributes such as hostility or hatred or bigotry. Racism is more of a superset of prejudice than these nastier, uglier qualities, but in 2015 we as society generally rejects that racism exist without this ugliness.

Personally I think we would better off if we went too far in the opposite direction and believed that even acknowledging that distinguishable races exist than you are a racist. That is probably too much for most as that makes most "I don't have a racist bone in my body" everyone a racist - including me more times than I'd like to admit. But I think if we had a do over here that too broad of a brush would be better than too narrow, but those ugly only tangibly related attributes make this option impossible.

 

[Buckfast 1]

Who is next to drop out?

Cruz?

Should be Huckabee but he's too stupid to recognize reality.

Running for as long as he can every four years to keep his name out there is part of his income strategy.

Cancels nothing. He's a dolt with an IQ hovering around soda cracker. The fact that he can con dumber people out of their money does not change my perception one iota.

He a total moron. Talk about someone you can't have running the country. Anyone thinking the earth is only 6000 years old is a moron. At least show an IQ and say something like the 6000 years in the bible is 'X' in real time.

This goes for Carson as well. He is an evolution skeptic to put it kindly.

It's pretty scary that the perceived intellectual neurosurgeon of the GOP field believes that evolution is a myth propogated as part of "Satan's plan." I don't care what your profession is -- if you discount modern science on the basis of your own personal religious beliefs, then you have some serious deficiencies in rational thought that, in my opinion, should disqualify you from holding the highest office in the country. Amazingly, Ben Carson manages to make Trump look like a more competent and qualified candidate by comparison.

 

[General Malaise]

Who is next to drop out?

Cruz?

Should be Huckabee but he's too stupid to recognize reality.

Running for as long as he can every four years to keep his name out there is part of his income strategy.

Cancels nothing. He's a dolt with an IQ hovering around soda cracker. The fact that he can con dumber people out of their money does not change my perception one iota.

He a total moron. Talk about someone you can't have running the country. Anyone thinking the earth is only 6000 years old is a moron. At least show an IQ and say something like the 6000 years in the bible is 'X' in real time.

This goes for Carson as well. He is an evolution skeptic to put it kindly.

How can a neurosurgeon be so anti science?

 

[General Malaise]

Any updated vegas odds?

No surprise, but Trump is starting to fall.

Clinton +140

Bush +650

Sanders +1200

Trump +1200

Rubio +1500

Carly (climbing) +2000

Biden (out of nowhere) +2000

Kasich +2500

Christie +3500

Carson +4000

Awe Shucksabee is 100-1 right now.

 

[Buckfast 1]

Who is next to drop out?

Cruz?

Should be Huckabee but he's too stupid to recognize reality.

Running for as long as he can every four years to keep his name out there is part of his income strategy.

Cancels nothing. He's a dolt with an IQ hovering around soda cracker. The fact that he can con dumber people out of their money does not change my perception one iota.

He a total moron. Talk about someone you can't have running the country. Anyone thinking the earth is only 6000 years old is a moron. At least show an IQ and say something like the 6000 years in the bible is 'X' in real time.

This goes for Carson as well. He is an evolution skeptic to put it kindly.

How can a neurosurgeon be so anti science?

“Dealing with the complexity of the human brain, and somebody says that came from a slime pit full of promiscuous biochemicals? I don’t think so.” - Ben Carson

 

[krista4]

Any updated vegas odds?

No surprise, but Trump is starting to fall.

Clinton +140

Bush +650

Sanders +1200

Trump +1200

Rubio +1500

Carly (climbing) +2000

Biden (out of nowhere) +2000

Kasich +2500

Christie +3500

Carson +4000

Awe Shucksabee is 100-1 right now.

OK, I'm going to ask you since you're my GB; almost asked GB Leeroy Jenkins when he did exactly the same thing. What is it with many of you calling everyone by his/her last name except for Fiorina? I've seen this over and over in the thread.

 

[timschochet]

Carson reminds me of one of those "scientists" from the Discovery Institue.

 

[Steve Tasker]

id rather be able to look myself in the mirror because I voted for someone who I actually wanted to win, rather than for a self-absorbed, xenophobic ######## who thinks that insulting people is campaigning. It will do nothing to "fix" the system. It will make it worse.

:greatposting:

Gary 2016!

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Any updated vegas odds?

No surprise, but Trump is starting to fall.

Clinton +140

Bush +650

Sanders +1200

Trump +1200

Rubio +1500

Carly (climbing) +2000

Biden (out of nowhere) +2000

Kasich +2500

Christie +3500

Carson +4000

Awe Shucksabee is 100-1 right now.

OK, I'm going to ask you since you're my GB; almost asked GB Leeroy Jenkins when he did exactly the same thing. What is it with many of you calling everyone by his/her last name except for Fiorina? I've seen this over and over in the thread.

I wasn't sure how to spell it off hand. I think I botched it elsewhere. A disgrace to my Italian heritage.

 

[krista4]

Any updated vegas odds?

No surprise, but Trump is starting to fall.

Clinton +140

Bush +650

Sanders +1200

Trump +1200

Rubio +1500

Carly (climbing) +2000

Biden (out of nowhere) +2000

Kasich +2500

Christie +3500

Carson +4000

Awe Shucksabee is 100-1 right now.

OK, I'm going to ask you since you're my GB; almost asked GB Leeroy Jenkins when he did exactly the same thing. What is it with many of you calling everyone by his/her last name except for Fiorina? I've seen this over and over in the thread.

I wasn't sure how to spell it off hand. I think I botched it elsewhere. A disgrace to my Italian heritage.

I wondered if it was the spelling for GM, but you of all people...

ETA: That can't be the excuse for a lot of people, though, because they end up spelling her first name wrong, too.

 

[culdeus]

Any updated vegas odds?

No surprise, but Trump is starting to fall.

Clinton +140

Bush +650

Sanders +1200

Trump +1200

Rubio +1500

Carly (climbing) +2000

Biden (out of nowhere) +2000

Kasich +2500

Christie +3500

Carson +4000

Awe Shucksabee is 100-1 right now.

Is there an option to bet on none of the above? Like a field?