skol asylum
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Man,.Ohio really turned.
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facook
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Some dude:
cannot overstress the path to 270 for Biden does NOT include AZ, TX, FL, GA, NC
would be nice & would be a clear sign he's headed for an electoral landslide
on the other hand, Trump HAS to have those 5 - cannot win without them. plus OH. plus either PA, or MI + IA, or MN + WI.
there's very little margin of error for President Trump
if PA, MI, WI, MN all stay blue, Trump has no path
ME: Biden's gonna win, cause he won AZ y'all.
cannot overstress the path to 270 for Biden does NOT include AZ, TX, FL, GA, NC
would be nice & would be a clear sign he's headed for an electoral landslide
on the other hand, Trump HAS to have those 5 - cannot win without them. plus OH. plus either PA, or MI + IA, or MN + WI.
there's very little margin of error for President Trump
if PA, MI, WI, MN all stay blue, Trump has no path
ME: Biden's gonna win, cause he won AZ y'all.
NutterButter
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True, but those were probably his 3 best polling swing states if Minnesota was even considered a swing state. Without Arizona, he'd need all those 3 as well plus PA. This just makes PA not a must have which is nice. The same goes if he wins PA, then WI isn't a must have.
BassNBrew
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HellToupee
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skol asylum
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400,000 absentee ballots in VA Fairfax county expected in 2 hours
Pitchfork
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Joe Summer
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Which polls are you using? RCP had Biden +0.9 in Florida and +5 in Nebraska CD 2, and 538 had Biden +0.9 in Georgia and +1.7 in North Carolina — all of which went to Trump.
bagger
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KarmaPolice
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Evidently I am not smart enough to follow along with this EC thing. I guess I am looking at wrong/incomplete info, as I see Biden with a decent lead, but everybody here saying it's down to 3 states yet again.
skol asylum
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facook
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Please God Please God Please God...Give us a tie.
https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/1323844678698106885?s=20
https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/1323844678698106885?s=20
Andy Dufresne
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It's the way of things now and it's not a nightmare. It's not like the next term is scheduled to start tomorrow.
Man In The Box
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Ramblin Wreck
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Add Ohio and Texas to the current totals
NutterButter
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Gr00vus
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It's going to be a painful few days in terms of attempts to spin it all, attempts to invalidate mail in ballots, etc.
Fox apparently called it, but that might be premature? I haven't seen others call it.
If Biden wins Arizona, he's back to being a decent favorite overall.
We'll get Michigan and Wisconsin tomorrow, Pennsylvania maybe a couple days after that. Without them, it's hard to be confident one way or the other.
My guess...
House: stays Dem.
Senate: 49-49 with two run-offs.
White House: 269-269.
Shula-holic
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Yep, Clinton netted around 650K in the Philly area last time. Some is in, and the splits aren't as good for Biden.
dkp993
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Doug B
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@BobbyLayne, I might be behind and missed your last red/blue tally post -- but Louisiana was called for Trump a while ago by at least local media.
skol asylum
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I may have missed it, but no comments on the USPS ignoring a judges order to scour their facilities this afternoon for 300,000 missing mail in ballots?
beef
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facook
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skol asylum
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Biden ahead in Virginia.
rockaction
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God Iyou.
And I may kill that by saying that I desperately want Biden/Harris to win, but as a lifelong conservative, I understand people's grievances with that sort of thing. From the ages of 17-27 I, in both my academic pursuits and work, dealt with sneering liberals and self-assured politicos of the leftist stripe and saw the potential for smaller town America to break really red, regardless of self-interest. The phrase that sums up liberal condescension best was embodied in one book's rhetorical question: What's The Matter With Kansas? Insisting that these people were voting against their own good, the authors proceeded to write a book trying to understand the root cause of the dissonance between people's policy preferences and their voting habits.
I never read the book but the question itself brought about the obvious observation that if you have to ask, you'll never know. They still haven't learned.
That said, this election is not over.
Andy Dufresne
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It's only painful if you listen to the talking heads. I think they're all full of it so it's not so bothersome.
Gr00vus
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Shula-holic
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Trump -145 Biden +110
NutterButter
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Senate looking highly unlikely for the dems even if Biden wins.
shader
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With 42% of the votes counted, but more like 25%-30% from the major metropolitan areas. It's too soon for conclusions there.
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Zow
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I'm actually okay with that. I'd rather a bit of a gridlock and a return to respectability.
Put differently, I hope the next four years are boring and the PSF turns into a graveyard.
Doug B
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The AP's current EV map looks horrible for Biden. With called states, he's at 209 electoral votes with only Maine, Minnesota, and Arizona leaning blue. Nevada is not reporting votes yet (really?).
Note that AP has not yet called FL, TX, NC, GA, etc. Not to mention the northern battlegrounds. That makes Trump's EV count look low ... but he's got A LOT of leaning states.
Ramblin Wreck
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VA to Biden. Trump should get Texas, GA, NC, and looks like Michigan. He just needs PA or WI if that is true, right?
BobbyLayne
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the road to 270 for President Trump
SAFE 125 electors (plus picked up 1 from NE district 2 which was a toss up)
115 called + 29 FL + 18 OH + 1 NE (district 2) = 162 as of rn
AK - 3
AL - 9 called
AR - 6 called
ID - 4
IN - 11 called
KS - 6 called
KY - 8 called
LA - 8 called
MO - 10 called
MS - 6 called
MT - 3
ND - 3 called
NE - 4 called (plus district 2, 1 elector, was a toss up)
OK - 7 called
SC - 9 called
SD - 3 called
TN - 11 called
WV - 5 called
WY - 3 called
UT - 6 called
the road to 270 for Vice President Biden
SAFE 216 electors
205 called
CA (55) called
CO (9) called
CT (7) called
DC (3) called
DE (3) called
HI (4)
IL (20) called
MA (11) called
MD (10) called
ME (3) not called (2 state & 1 from district 2 are safe; plus 1 eclector from district 2 - toss up, so 4 total)
NH (4) called
NJ (14) called
NM (5) called
NY (29) called
RI (4)
OR (7) called
VA (13) called
VT (3) called
WA (12) called
Battleground or Toss Up States - only 1 has been called
AZ 11
FL 29 - called for Trump, bumps him up to 154 with his safe states
GA 16
IA 6
NC 15
NE (district 2) 1- called for Trump, bumps him up to 155
OH 18 - called for Trump, bumps him up to to 173 with his safe states
TX 38
That's 133 plus there are single electors in ME District 2 and NE District 2 up for grabs in Toss Up / Battleground states.
leaning states - none of these have flipped BUT ALSO none have been called
Biden 62 leaning states
MI 16
MN 10
NV 6
PA 20
WI 10
President Trump HAS to flip one of the Biden leaning states.
SUMMARY
TRUMP 125 - must sweep Battleground + flip Biden state(s)
BIDEN 278 - if there are no flipped states, Biden wins
BATTLEGROUND 135
TOTAL 538
270 TO WIN
SAFE 125 electors (plus picked up 1 from NE district 2 which was a toss up)
115 called + 29 FL + 18 OH + 1 NE (district 2) = 162 as of rn
AK - 3
AL - 9 called
AR - 6 called
ID - 4
IN - 11 called
KS - 6 called
KY - 8 called
LA - 8 called
MO - 10 called
MS - 6 called
MT - 3
ND - 3 called
NE - 4 called (plus district 2, 1 elector, was a toss up)
OK - 7 called
SC - 9 called
SD - 3 called
TN - 11 called
WV - 5 called
WY - 3 called
UT - 6 called
the road to 270 for Vice President Biden
SAFE 216 electors
205 called
CA (55) called
CO (9) called
CT (7) called
DC (3) called
DE (3) called
HI (4)
IL (20) called
MA (11) called
MD (10) called
ME (3) not called (2 state & 1 from district 2 are safe; plus 1 eclector from district 2 - toss up, so 4 total)
NH (4) called
NJ (14) called
NM (5) called
NY (29) called
RI (4)
OR (7) called
VA (13) called
VT (3) called
WA (12) called
Battleground or Toss Up States - only 1 has been called
AZ 11
FL 29 - called for Trump, bumps him up to 154 with his safe states
GA 16
IA 6
NC 15
NE (district 2) 1- called for Trump, bumps him up to 155
OH 18 - called for Trump, bumps him up to to 173 with his safe states
TX 38
That's 133 plus there are single electors in ME District 2 and NE District 2 up for grabs in Toss Up / Battleground states.
leaning states - none of these have flipped BUT ALSO none have been called
Biden 62 leaning states
MI 16
MN 10
NV 6
PA 20
WI 10
President Trump HAS to flip one of the Biden leaning states.
SUMMARY
TRUMP 125 - must sweep Battleground + flip Biden state(s)
BIDEN 278 - if there are no flipped states, Biden wins
BATTLEGROUND 135
TOTAL 538
270 TO WIN
Minnesota going for Biden. With 67% in Biden leading 54.7% -43.3%. With some rural counties near 80-90% tallied Biden has added some rural counties Clinton didn't get. Surprised Mn hasn't been called yet.
Shula-holic
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Gr00vus
Footballguy
It's going to be a long drawn out ugly legal fight in PA (at least) by one or both campaigns.
NutterButter
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BobbyLayne
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CletiusMaximus
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It seems they were way over exposed on a Trump win, freaked out based on early returns, and needed to slow that down and juice more action on Biden for a couple hours.
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