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***Official Big Brother Thread*** No Spoilers Starts 7/6 (2 Viewers)

Don't watch this show a ton, but have caught a couple episodes.  Hate that I missed zingbot, but youtube helps.  As one who believes that the worse your play the worse he should go after you, I didn't think he went far enough.  These people really are terrible at this game.
I was curious if they were going to do some kind of Paul leading the sheep thing.

They really are terrible players, though I wonder how differently this season would have turned out without Paul there.

 
I thought the zings were pretty damn good, much funnier and harsher than previous seasons.  He called Josh fat and matts was pure gold.
I thought they were good also. I was laughing hard. You have to know going into this that if you make it to zingbot your going to get roasted.

 
More big moves over the weekend.  Let's vote out Mark.  Now lets go after the other showmance or the guy all by himself.

Jason and Alex HOH fight was terrible.  First time Matt every questioned anything.  This is what you get for being a pawn on the block.

Loved how everyone wanted paul to help win the HOH.  No way paul was winning that.  Do people not talk to each other without paul in the room?  How do they not know he is with everyone.

 
Is the premise behind Big Brother to find the biggest idiots on the planet and put them in an apartment together and see what happens?

Seriously, these people are really not bright.

 
What does he say?  I can't understand a thing.
Honestly, I couldn't make it out myself either in that clip, but here is a transcript someone did. 

Here is the full context of Jason's joke. Whether or not it makes it better, the same, or worse is up for you to decide. (tw: sexual assault, rape)

Alex, Jason, Josh, and Paul are together on the bathroom sofa. No one else is around or intrudes at any point until the end of the conversation, as marked

Josh: "Do damage control with him [Kevin], because we do not want him to win HOH."

Paul: "Homie"

Jason: “Oh you [Kevin] just said that on the way in. He said, “so what do I need to do, win the HOH?’ I said, ‘I guess, you better'.”

Josh: “No!”

Jason: “What do you want me to say ‘#### no, you tool?' I just said..I was walking inside, he said 'I guess I better turn it up and win the HOH'.”

Josh: “How do I fix this?”

Jason: “Well he ain’t gonna ####### win, guys.”

Alex knocks on the wall

Jason: “Me too actually.”

Jason and Josh knock on the wall

Paul: “What if it’s a gamble?”

Jason: “Huh?”

Paul: “It’s a gamble, like if it’s a luck one, but…”

Jason: “Then I’ll make him lose his forty-thousand. If he puts me and Alex, me and you [Paul] up or some bull#### like that, I will ####### make him…”

Alex: “Lose his brain.”

Jason: “Lose his brain. I’ll call that mother####er every name in the book.”

Alex: “My ####, whore, #####, ####, counterfeit son of a #####.”

Jason: “I’m gonna #### your wife when I get out of here!”

Paul: “He takes his…”

Jason: “I’m gonna tie all your daughters up and make them ####### watch you piece of..”

Josh: “Oh..oh my god. Alright, I’m going to…I’m going to…”

Jason: “Where is the line?”

Paul: “The line is gone.”

Josh: “I’m Forrest Gump’ing”

Paul: “At this point, you [Jason] don’t even acknowledge the line.”

Josh: “You don’t even know that the line existed.”

Jason: “I was just…I was trying…I was trying to think of the worst, craziest thing you could say. That was it.”

Paul: “That was it! That was definitely it.”

Josh: “I’m booking this conversation.”

Alex: “More Coke. We need more Coke.”

Jason: “Mountain Dew.”

Paul: “You had the ####### Mountain Dew.”

Alex: “No Mountain Dew.”

Josh: “Should I have a conversation with him [Kevin]?”

Alex: “No.”

Josh: “Like, make him…”

Jason: “I told him to squash it. Me and Paul told him to squash it.”

Paul: “We pretty much calmed him down and it ain’t…"

Kevin enters the bathroom and the conversation breaks up. Alex, Jason, and Paul proceed to the kitchen. Josh and Kevin remain in the bathroom to hash out their earlier argument
 
More big moves over the weekend.  Let's vote out Mark.  Now lets go after the other showmance or the guy all by himself.

Jason and Alex HOH fight was terrible.  First time Matt every questioned anything.  This is what you get for being a pawn on the block.

Loved how everyone wanted paul to help win the HOH.  No way paul was winning that.  Do people not talk to each other without paul in the room?  How do they not know he is with everyone.
The short answer is, no, they dont talk without their messiah present. That said, if you had a three person alliance with him, why would you ask others about him? The only thing that does is expose your alliance. Paul has never really lied to any of the three groups that they know of...why would they question it now? 

 
Honestly, I couldn't make it out myself either in that clip, but here is a transcript someone did. 

Here is the full context of Jason's joke. Whether or not it makes it better, the same, or worse is up for you to decide. (tw: sexual assault, rape)

Alex, Jason, Josh, and Paul are together on the bathroom sofa. No one else is around or intrudes at any point until the end of the conversation, as marked

Josh: "Do damage control with him [Kevin], because we do not want him to win HOH."

Paul: "Homie"

Jason: “Oh you [Kevin] just said that on the way in. He said, “so what do I need to do, win the HOH?’ I said, ‘I guess, you better'.”

Josh: “No!”

Jason: “What do you want me to say ‘#### no, you tool?' I just said..I was walking inside, he said 'I guess I better turn it up and win the HOH'.”

Josh: “How do I fix this?”

Jason: “Well he ain’t gonna ####### win, guys.”

Alex knocks on the wall

Jason: “Me too actually.”

Jason and Josh knock on the wall

Paul: “What if it’s a gamble?”

Jason: “Huh?”

Paul: “It’s a gamble, like if it’s a luck one, but…”

Jason: “Then I’ll make him lose his forty-thousand. If he puts me and Alex, me and you [Paul] up or some bull#### like that, I will ####### make him…”

Alex: “Lose his brain.”

Jason: “Lose his brain. I’ll call that mother####er every name in the book.”

Alex: “My ####, whore, #####, ####, counterfeit son of a #####.”

Jason: “I’m gonna #### your wife when I get out of here!”

Paul: “He takes his…”

Jason: “I’m gonna tie all your daughters up and make them ####### watch you piece of..”

Josh: “Oh..oh my god. Alright, I’m going to…I’m going to…”

Jason: “Where is the line?”

Paul: “The line is gone.”

Josh: “I’m Forrest Gump’ing”

Paul: “At this point, you [Jason] don’t even acknowledge the line.”

Josh: “You don’t even know that the line existed.”

Jason: “I was just…I was trying…I was trying to think of the worst, craziest thing you could say. That was it.”

Paul: “That was it! That was definitely it.”

Josh: “I’m booking this conversation.”

Alex: “More Coke. We need more Coke.”

Jason: “Mountain Dew.”

Paul: “You had the ####### Mountain Dew.”

Alex: “No Mountain Dew.”

Josh: “Should I have a conversation with him [Kevin]?”

Alex: “No.”

Josh: “Like, make him…”

Jason: “I told him to squash it. Me and Paul told him to squash it.”

Paul: “We pretty much calmed him down and it ain’t…"

Kevin enters the bathroom and the conversation breaks up. Alex, Jason, and Paul proceed to the kitchen. Josh and Kevin remain in the bathroom to hash out their earlier argument
um.  It was a joke.  

 
The short answer is, no, they dont talk without their messiah present. That said, if you had a three person alliance with him, why would you ask others about him? The only thing that does is expose your alliance. Paul has never really lied to any of the three groups that they know of...why would they question it now? 
I'll give a lot of credit to Paul in how he negotiates these things and even when he is betraying one of these alliances, he's good at framing it to make them feel like it's part of the masterplan.  That said, all these houseguests watched last season and should have had their radar way up for these tactics.   I get the rational reasons why the various alliances don't question Paul behind his back, but I am surprised that it hasn't come up a few times. 

 
Xmas and Josh have started to question Paul allegiance a little...  Ironically they're the twosome that Paul wants to take to the end.

 
Xmas and Josh have started to question Paul allegiance a little...  Ironically they're the twosome that Paul wants to take to the end.
Maybe I'm remembering it wrong. I thought Christmas questioned it and Josh quickly jumped to his defense asking why she would talk that way? 

Did i remember it incorrectly? 

 
Maybe I'm remembering it wrong. I thought Christmas questioned it and Josh quickly jumped to his defense asking why she would talk that way? 

Did i remember it incorrectly? 
Few weeks ago, Xmas was starting the Paul stuff.  But now, Josh is questioning Paul's allegiance and now Xmas shut him down.

Felt a lot like she has been coached, to be honest.

 
Brony said:
I'll give a lot of credit to Paul in how he negotiates these things and even when he is betraying one of these alliances, he's good at framing it to make them feel like it's part of the masterplan.  That said, all these houseguests watched last season and should have had their radar way up for these tactics.   I get the rational reasons why the various alliances don't question Paul behind his back, but I am surprised that it hasn't come up a few times. 
Yep, can't stand Paul, but he's owning these people.  At first I would have been shocked to see him make it half way.  Now I'll be surprised if he isn't in final 3.

 
How about one of these nimrods just thinking..."umm, how are any of us going to beat Paul in the finals?"

Its as simple as that. 

 
How about one of these nimrods just thinking..."umm, how are any of us going to beat Paul in the finals?"

Its as simple as that. 
It should have been Mark's argument (and Cody's before him)

"Picture yourself in the final two, and it's either me or Paul sitting next to you....which one do you think you'd have a better chance of beating?"

 
this is the dumbest show on TV i believe. I love when people want to talk tough when the decision is made already. How about you try little more to discuss before the decision?

and i love the emotion and heartbreak from it. i really think these 8 thought they were all going to win, and Paul was going to find a way for everybody to win the cash

 
It is really hard for me to still watch this show knowing that Josh or Paul should be gone right now.  Jessica really screwed up putting up Ramses.  Rooting for Jason and Kevin now.  Of course they will be targeted by all of the sheep now.

 
How about one of these nimrods just thinking..."umm, how are any of us going to beat Paul in the finals?"

Its as simple as that. 
I agree...but I do wonder if the jury will sway away from voting Paul the winner simply because he's done it before.  They're all buddy-buddy with him right now because they see him as their ticket to the final 3.  As soon as that goes out the window, he may be public enemy #1 with an additional "you had your chance" strike.

Remember, they'll all corroborate stories in the jury house and realize he was playing everyone.

 
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It is really hard for me to still watch this show knowing that Josh or Paul should be gone right now.  Jessica really screwed up putting up Ramses.  Rooting for Jason and Kevin now.  Of course they will be targeted by all of the sheep now.
I used to watch The Bachelor when my wife was watching it.  After the first few seasons, almost all viewers 'got' that the final couple was not going to stay together and that this was all for show; a rouse no different than WWE.  I've come this way with BB - if you are going to get vested in the show based who is most deserved to win; you are in for a huge disappointment. 

 
I agree...but I do wonder if the jury will sway away from voting Paul the winner simply because he's done it before.  They're all buddy-buddy with him right now because they see him as their ticket to the final 3.  As soon as that goes out the window, he may be public enemy #1 with an additional "you had your chance" strike.

Remember, they'll all corroborate stories in the jury house and realize he was playing everyone.
In previous seasons the jury has given credit to people who run the house without being found out - I'm mostly checked out on this season but my wife has kept me up-to-date.  Based on her comments and this thread it seems like Paul has done a masterful job running things while not pissing anybody but Cody off. And when I was watching he was winning comps too.  My wife doesn't like him but I told her he should win by far from what I can tell - 2nd would be Jason I think as he's won some stuff too.  I may break my word and start watching again now that the only people left are having to turn on each other.

 
Wow, someone actually decided to not get bullied.
I was extremely happy to see this and it made me like Jason for standing up to them.  The way I see it, Jason could pair up with Kevin.  Every other alliance is 2 people.  No real advantage for any of the groups of 2 that I can see.  Except that Kevin is pretty horrible at comps.

 
Chaos.  Kevin is pissed.  Will be interesting to see him this week.  I feel like in real life he would have punched a few people this episode in the face. 

 
Chaos.  Kevin is pissed.  Will be interesting to see him this week.  I feel like in real life he would have punched a few people this episode in the face. 
CBS cut out a part where Kevin picked up that glass and was about to smash/throw it at Josh.  Feeds cut.  He never got close enough to make you think he was actually gonna do it, but he was pissed. 

Josh is such a #####...and Matt went out like one.

As much as I hate the fact that Paul got another shot, he's about the only respectable player left in the house.  He's played everyone in there like a fiddle.  From a pure game standpoint, you have to respect it. 

 
Matt definitely has the beer goggles on if he thinks Raven is a good player and deserves to win.

They must pump some kind of gas into that house, because once people get to the jury they're like "you know, Paul is really playing everyone"

Mark seems like a genuinely nice guy.  Rooting for him to tap that booty.

 
http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/01/big-brother-jessica-graf-bold-and-the-beautiful/?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter

That sound you heard was Cody's rump hitting the curb.

EW has learned exclusively that Jessica Graf, whose showmance with Cody led to her ouster on Big Brother, is the latest ex-houseguest to debut on CBS’ The Bold and the Beautiful.

The Los Angeles-based VIP concierge will play a hostess at the series’ restaurant Il Giardino,

 
http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/01/big-brother-jessica-graf-bold-and-the-beautiful/?utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter

That sound you heard was Cody's rump hitting the curb.

EW has learned exclusively that Jessica Graf, whose showmance with Cody led to her ouster on Big Brother, is the latest ex-houseguest to debut on CBS’ The Bold and the Beautiful.

The Los Angeles-based VIP concierge will play a hostess at the series’ restaurant Il Giardino,
Cody as in Cody "I would have won except I would have had to be nice to those losers and I'm way too awesome to associate with them" Nickson?

 
These people should be ashamed of themselves.  I made a joke about self-evicting, but this isn't far off.  If one of these clowns come back for another season, no chance I watch it.

 
I'm switching gears and am rooting for Paul. It's almost too easy for him at this point.
That HOH race charade was a low point in a season full of low points.

 
I'm switching gears and am rooting for Paul. It's almost too easy for him at this point.
That HOH race charade was a low point in a season full of low points.
Xmas thinking the last race between her and Josh looking fishy, yeah the first 3 were not fishy at all.  What a bunch of morons.

 
yea XMAS shouldn't have even been allowed to play in that one, they would have just thrown it to Josh anyways I suppose.

 
I'm sure its too late, but I wish production could step in and have comps that can't be thrown.  Like the one where you putt the ball and whoever lands on the highest number wins.  I had relatively high hopes early on that this would be a great season.   I've all but lost interest. 

 
I'm sure its too late, but I wish production could step in and have comps that can't be thrown.  Like the one where you putt the ball and whoever lands on the highest number wins.  I had relatively high hopes early on that this would be a great season.   I've all but lost interest. 
But that's a game of luck, may as well have a HOH lottery. Idiots like Josh can't win comp unless they're thrown to him or he gets lucky.

 
The next BB should be nothing but house guests who were the 1st ones voted out on their season...I'm sure somebody in the "1st out" batch would actually be decent.

 
I used to think Christmas was kind of hot but wow no no no. Now that she is getting more airtime, that smile of hers is frightening. The expression makes it look like she just ate 20 lemons. Oof please stop showing close ups of her. And Kevin, his eyes never stay still, like he is expecting to get whacked.

 
I used to think Christmas was kind of hot but wow no no no. Now that she is getting more airtime, that smile of hers is frightening. The expression makes it look like she just ate 20 lemons. Oof please stop showing close ups of her. And Kevin, his eyes never stay still, like he is expecting to get whacked.
I dunno... Christmas is still plenty hot to me.

I finally realized tonight, when she shot down Josh when he started talking to her about his doubts about Paul, that Christmas does have to play a "dependent" game to make it to the final 3 because of her injury.  So even if it is Paul as the third leg, she needs him and can't consider any kind of move against Paul.

Always remembering that we only see what CBS shows us... but I never thought Josh would be the first one to buy a clue about Paul and start to think strategically against him.

 

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