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***Official Big Brother Thread*** No Spoilers Starts 7/6 (2 Viewers)
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offdee
Footballguy
This is Ty's best bet by far. Can play both the "love" card (to keep Angela happy) and also guarantees himself a win since majority of jury can't stand her. Absolute worst case scenario he loses to her and then reaps the benefits outside the house in real life.
I'd imagine Angela is thinking the same way on her end even though I'm sure she knows no matter who she brings other than JC that she will lose the votes. Will be interesting this week to see Angela's true colors as if she's truly playing the game she should be figuring out a way for Kasee and Ty to be going home the next two weeks.
In The Zone
Footballguy
I think it's Kaycee.
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
lol @ Swaggy stealing all their thunder.
NotSmart
Footballguy
Random thoughts from the final episode:
With Kaycee and Tyler in the finals, there was no wrong vote from a purist game strategy perspective even with some of the jury being bitter.
I thought Kaycee made a mistake not taking JC over Tyler, and it almost cost her. Presumably though she had thought that through and decided on loyalty over strategy, and in the end she raked in all the chips - congrats to her for playing a super strong game and emerging with tons of integrity.
In the final 3, Tyler made an observation I didn't even realize until he said it when he congratulated Kaycee and JC for how well they represented the LGBT community.
Angela was a little too heavy handed when she first joined the jury in castigating Kaycee as a coat tail rider and Tyler as the mastermind. She was trying to help Tyler, but I think she hurt him - hardly anyone there liked Angela, and her clumsily stumping for Tyler did him no favors.
I think Tyler overdid it with his answers in the final questions... there's an art to guiding people through how you made moves and influenced them to help further your goals, and Tyler was just too direct in hitting people over the head with how he manipulated him. If he lost just one vote there... :sadtrombone:
Was it Angela who said "marriage proposal" when Swaggy was walking over to Bayleigh?... whoever it was, it was a giant wet blanket on what was really a pretty cool moment. Also, I lol'ed when Swaggy was proposing to Bayleigh and she was turned around kibitzing with someone and they had to point her attention back to Swaggy.
I'm more than a little shocked that Hayleigh and Fessy are still an item... I thought the harsh light of reality in the jury house would put an end to that one... I'm still a little skeptical since Hayleigh tossed the answer over to Fessy, and what the heck was he gonna say except "yes we're an item"? Regardless, like all the couples from the show, I'm rooting for those crazy kids and sincerely hope it works out.
When Julie gave Tyler a chance to profess his love for Angela, he totally demurred. It was a moment when he could have melted America's collective romantic heart, but it wasn't to be. Not quite sure what that says about their potential, but it was a moment lost if he's really serious about her.
Was it just me or did the jetpack that JC was flying on in the comp look like he was stretched out more than the other 2?
I thought Kaycee might be a bit miffed about Tyler not throwing the jetpack endurance comp to her, but obviously not since she still picked him for the finals.
In the final comp videos from the jury, Hayleigh's eyes and face looked really awesome in her eye makeup video.\
When Julie signed off tonight with her new "I'm Julie Chen Moonves", Tyler shot her a quizzical look... as a superfan, he know that was something new. The houseguests are going to be surprised to find out about the Les Moonves developments.
This was a great season!... I really enjoyed this one.
With Kaycee and Tyler in the finals, there was no wrong vote from a purist game strategy perspective even with some of the jury being bitter.
I thought Kaycee made a mistake not taking JC over Tyler, and it almost cost her. Presumably though she had thought that through and decided on loyalty over strategy, and in the end she raked in all the chips - congrats to her for playing a super strong game and emerging with tons of integrity.
In the final 3, Tyler made an observation I didn't even realize until he said it when he congratulated Kaycee and JC for how well they represented the LGBT community.
Angela was a little too heavy handed when she first joined the jury in castigating Kaycee as a coat tail rider and Tyler as the mastermind. She was trying to help Tyler, but I think she hurt him - hardly anyone there liked Angela, and her clumsily stumping for Tyler did him no favors.
I think Tyler overdid it with his answers in the final questions... there's an art to guiding people through how you made moves and influenced them to help further your goals, and Tyler was just too direct in hitting people over the head with how he manipulated him. If he lost just one vote there... :sadtrombone:
Was it Angela who said "marriage proposal" when Swaggy was walking over to Bayleigh?... whoever it was, it was a giant wet blanket on what was really a pretty cool moment. Also, I lol'ed when Swaggy was proposing to Bayleigh and she was turned around kibitzing with someone and they had to point her attention back to Swaggy.
I'm more than a little shocked that Hayleigh and Fessy are still an item... I thought the harsh light of reality in the jury house would put an end to that one... I'm still a little skeptical since Hayleigh tossed the answer over to Fessy, and what the heck was he gonna say except "yes we're an item"? Regardless, like all the couples from the show, I'm rooting for those crazy kids and sincerely hope it works out.
When Julie gave Tyler a chance to profess his love for Angela, he totally demurred. It was a moment when he could have melted America's collective romantic heart, but it wasn't to be. Not quite sure what that says about their potential, but it was a moment lost if he's really serious about her.
Was it just me or did the jetpack that JC was flying on in the comp look like he was stretched out more than the other 2?
I thought Kaycee might be a bit miffed about Tyler not throwing the jetpack endurance comp to her, but obviously not since she still picked him for the finals.
In the final comp videos from the jury, Hayleigh's eyes and face looked really awesome in her eye makeup video.\
When Julie signed off tonight with her new "I'm Julie Chen Moonves", Tyler shot her a quizzical look... as a superfan, he know that was something new. The houseguests are going to be surprised to find out about the Les Moonves developments.
This was a great season!... I really enjoyed this one.
Mile High
Footballguy
Yeah. Since all the other players who actually did game, voted for Tyler. Scottie and Fessy disappointing to the end.
bryhamm
Footballguy
Mile High
Footballguy
A pretty cool moment? He knew the girl for 23 days and hasn't talked to her in 76.More like attention whore moment.
NotSmart
Footballguy
That's one way to look at it, and maybe it's the right way.
I didn't get that feeling though... it was pretty obvious they were totally head over heels with each other.
Swaggy has already won her parents over - not too many guys would have done that while the woman was not around.
They actually had 20+ days together, which when you add up the time they spent together, it's probably more like 2-3 months of seeing each other an hour or 2 a day.
They're both really intense people.
I totally believe it's possible to have love at first sight.... I wouldn't recommend it and the odds aren't so great, but it can and does happen.
EYLive
Footballguy
I thought Kaycee played the better game. The jury could have been bitter and still voted for the stronger player.
Brony
Footballguy
I thought Kaycee would win 7-2 but I'm almost always wrong on who wins. I thought Tyler was a more deserving player but jury's usually are petty and pick who was nicer. This perpetuates trend of last few years just to be nice, make no moves, and no blood on your hands. I think we will continue to have final weeks be snoozers
More so than other seasons, I thought final 2 were both deserving.
I liked that the final comps required some actual knowledge of what happened instead of trying to think of which jury member might like lavender or some bs like that. Lol that $450000 was separated by who knows how to multiply 60 x 60.
Swaggy - good god man. Milk that spotlight with all you got.
Good season - glad that it wasn't ruined by producers or America's vote.
More so than other seasons, I thought final 2 were both deserving.
I liked that the final comps required some actual knowledge of what happened instead of trying to think of which jury member might like lavender or some bs like that. Lol that $450000 was separated by who knows how to multiply 60 x 60.
Swaggy - good god man. Milk that spotlight with all you got.
Good season - glad that it wasn't ruined by producers or America's vote.
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
Completely agree. It looked to me like he was at full stretch with his arms to reach, while the others could kind of relax and get their wrists to the hand rests.
I also thought the vote would be way more in Kaycee's favor, I think Tyler won Hayleigh's vote tbh. Either way, good for Kaycee to win, she seemed like a good person was a fierce competitor and certainly deserved it.
I started off rooting for Tyler, but he rubbed me the wrong way with the whole Brett debacle. I get it, it's a game you're trying to win 500K, but I think you can do it with a bit more class to an alliance member.
This is only the second season I watched ever. I watched Chicken George and Eddie in season one. And then I was out. Until this one. CBS did a good job in picking an enjoyable cast. Some villains, some nice people, some complete loons (Sam :hi
I'm certainly not the demographic they are shooting for though, so being able to suck me in here was surprising.
Had to be a shotgun wedding proposal, no? Terrible idea proposing there either way. Total attention whore move.
Will watch again on season 40. Until then, good night.
Fat Nick
Footballguy
Totally agree re. the Angela comment - it was pretty obvious for anyone paying attention that she was trying to sway votes to him. I also agree it backfired. She's probably the one people liked least, and by aligning with him so clearly in jury she hurt him.
x2 re. Haleigh and Fessy - I never got the sense she was that into it. Of course maybe she just didn't like it aired on TV.
So I was looking really closely at the jet packs - they clearly had the distance between the hands and feet adjustable. JC's total "gap" was a lot smaller than the others, but I didn't pay much attention beyond seeing his gap was smaller. What I bet could've happened is that they set that distance as a ratio based on height, and I think as a percentage of his height, he's got shorter-than-average arms, so he ended up stretched. I'm not really sure how else they would've done that. I thought he'd have an advantage simply because of the lower leverage for the length of his body. In my head, I feel like JC should've been great at hanging onto things and such because of his overall smaller torso. Wasn't really right though.
...Hayleigh was always dressed down in-season, but that blue dress during the finale...
Bobcat10
Footballguy
I thought Tyler deserved to win and was the better player, but Kaycee was still a deserving winner.
Those questions from the jury to the Final 2 were horrendous. Kaycee bombed them too. I'll never know the moment, so I'll cut her a little slack.....but if I was a juror I'd take them more seriously then they apparently do (season over season over season). I respect Haleigh in that regard and she looked FINE.
Those questions from the jury to the Final 2 were horrendous. Kaycee bombed them too. I'll never know the moment, so I'll cut her a little slack.....but if I was a juror I'd take them more seriously then they apparently do (season over season over season). I respect Haleigh in that regard and she looked FINE.
NotSmart
Footballguy
I didn't word the first part well: it didn't occur to me until Tyler pointed it out that the 2 LGBTQ members of the house both made it to the final 3.
Thanks on the Rockstar ID, I was looking away when that happened and I was wondering who the boorish person was that said it.
Brony
Footballguy
I think this will be my last opportunity to opine that JC looks like a cross between Sling Blade and Gavin from Kids in the Hall.
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
jb1020
Footballguy
Pretty sure Derrick and Cody had some sort of deal in BB16. Cody could have taken someone he would have easily beat, but took Derrick instead knowing he would lose.
I bet Tyler is so pissed at Sam. He pretty much protected her for 80+ days in the house. I honestly can't recall any sort of exchange between Sam and Kaycee, not sure they spoke all year.
Kaycee obviously played a great game, but Tyler took the risky path and I thought he deserved it.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
The questions need to be more specific. Kaycee had very little actual content in her answers while answering generic wide open questions. Tyler's problem was he did so much in the game, he had too much to say and not enough time to make it sound good.
Also, why would the final question revolve around why they think they should win the game? Isn't it painfully obvious after so many seasons that that question will/should be answered when the finalists do their final speech?
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mozzy84
Footballguy
Kaycee had zero content, she said her social game like ten times but had zero examples besides she talked to everyone.
And the whole way they did that felt super rushed this year (at least for tyler). Granted I think that HOH went longer than they thought it would and letting swaggy waste a bunch of time was super annoying. I can't wait until swaggy brings Bailey back to the hood, I'm sure that will go over spectacular with the spoiled rich pageant queen.
jb1020
Footballguy
The whole production of the episode seemed like they should get an F. The questions from the jurors we're bad. You're right, they needed specific questions. The last 2 questions we're basically "why do you think you should win?" and that was right before Julie said, "ok, you got 45 seconds to make your speech as to why you should win."
The proposal thing was ridiculous. I'm surprised they let them do that. 2 HG's no one likes get a solid 3 minutes of camera time when they were cutting the Q & A portion short just minutes before? I'm sure the swaggy/Bay thing will be a total #### show though.
jb1020
Footballguy
After last nights Q & A I wouldn't mind if production asked the questions or at least write them for the HG's to ask.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Or give them 20 or 30 questions to choose from and let Will help them out. They are morons for those questions and production is even worse for letting them through to the show.
The last evicted guest should always get the last question too. That person has no time to deliberate with the rest of the jury and might bring something new to the table. I thought they've done that in the past, but I can't recall specifically.
cheese
Footballguy
Great final 2 and honestly both could have been deserving winners. I don’t think the votes for Kaycee were “wrong”. Even if you believe Tyler was the mastermind, it is part of the game to not have people leave with a nasty taste in their mouth. I though Tyler did a great job of getting to final 2, but there is a reason the jury was a bitter. Poor jury management cost him. If he would’ve won though, he was worthy also imo
jb1020
Footballguy
Still a great season overall. The recap from Sunday about all the blindsides that happened was great. There hasn't been a season like that in a while.
It did end up fizzling out a bit, but good overall. I think Haliegh was a good player that got buried in a bad alliance.
Still think an all star season would be good.
It did end up fizzling out a bit, but good overall. I think Haliegh was a good player that got buried in a bad alliance.
Still think an all star season would be good.
Fat Nick
Footballguy
jb1020
Footballguy
I usually like the socially awkward nerdy HG. Scottie was awful though. Its pretty clear why hes never even kissed a girl.
cheese
Footballguy
EYLive
Footballguy
The gameplay only appeared "better" because the path to success was so readily apparent. L6 had, maybe by luck maybe not, the 3 smartest people in the game: Tyler, Brett and Kaycee. It would have been foolish to unnecessarily deviate from their plan. The other alliance was so inept, they pretty much did all the work for L6.
So I don't think the gameplay was actually better, it was just easier. How many tough decisions did L6 really have to make? They just let the other side of the house implode.
EYLive
Footballguy
I haven't said that.
When players from this season admit to being the worst ever, that's an indication that they're exceptionally dumb.
Mile High
Footballguy
They played the other side to convince them to implode. That is the definition of playing Big Brother.
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
Scottie is a weird dude. He's socially awkward, yet, somehow he seems to act like he thinks he's cool. Its really odd to see.
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
Meh, Haleigh said she was one of the worst ever, but it isnt true. Sure, she made some mistakes, but she was far from a bad player. I think she was an above average player caught in a series of bad luck.
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
Tyler should have won but I like Kaycee and think she was deserving too. There was zero chance Tyler was getting Bayleigh or Rockstar's vote because they were just too bitter. Proud that Hayleigh voted on game play and disapointed Scottie did not. Not surprised that Sam voted against Tyler, he could have handled her better in his speech.
Did Rachel and Angela hug at the finale? I wonder how Rachel feels about Angela after her good bye message.
Did Rachel and Angela hug at the finale? I wonder how Rachel feels about Angela after her good bye message.
Mile High
Footballguy
Yes they did. Angela apologized and they appeared to be over it. Rachel is content with riding along with L6.
