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***Official Donald J. Trump Impeachment (Whistleblower) Thread*** (3 Viewers)
- Thread starter snitwitch
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People in the intelligence community responsibility is not to decide fitness for the job.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Yes. And people should wait for the evidence of said inquiry before concluding that many of the inuendo in the report are true.
msommer
Footballguy
"The bear looked at the hunter and said: "You're not here for the hunting, are you?"I get 10 responses in 10 minutes and I only responded to three of them 5 minutes later. Good lord this place sucks.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
That's the William Barr, btw, who said in a speech at Notre Dame this past weekend that secularism was "assaulting" religion in this country.
msommer
Footballguy
Perhaps people should wait on the investigation before calling parts of the complaint innuendo and/or heresy
yak651
Footballguy
Well we now know that only Republican whistle blowers can whistle blow a Republican president, otherwise it's just hearsay and a witch hunt!
msommer
Footballguy
the moops
Footballguy
Then stop coming here. Seriously. Why would you keep going somewhere that causes you such angst?
sho nuff
Footballguy
Yes...its the place that sucks. Hint...when you post something as bad as saying the whistleblower complaint was just partisan innuendo and heresy...you will get many replies telling and showing you how wrong that is. That doesn't mean the place sucks...it means that take was probably pretty terrible.
Hawkeye21
Footballguy
He could go to FFT where most people would agree with everything he says or he could find other people who share his opinions and get them to post here to even things out some.
Jobber
Footballguy
Exactly. If you want to be stroked by other blind Trump supporters, go over to Reddit or something.
timschochet
Footballguy
Then why are you here all of the time? You’re here nearly as much as I am. But I hang around because I like it and I don’t pretend I’m a victim. If I thought the place sucked I wouldn’t be here. I don’t waste my valuable entertainment time on things that suck. Why do you?
toshiba
Footballguy
I am not sure why people post this. He believes what he believes and maybe he is not as intellectually rigorous as you may think. Maybe you need to reevaluate how you view him...I love how you use this forum, which you constantly claim is a partisan cesspool hopelessly biased against Trump, to spread a bunch of partisan innuendo and heresy about the complaint itself, specifically that it's full of "partisan inuendo and heresy"
I'm curious though, my dear jon, how someone as intellectually rigorous as yourself, and having the level of skepticism you claim here:
and here:
could claim anything one way or another about what the whistle blower report is or isn't when you haven't read it yourself.
Please be better.
apalmer
Footballguy
And probable cause then triggers an investigation, including subpoenas, searching for hidden evidence and questioning potential witnesses. If only someone would do that here, huh? Instead, they're conducting a coup by investigating, issuing subpoenas, searching for hidden evidence and questioning potential witnesses. I can see why you're upset.
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
Some of the evidence was already released by the President. People are entitled to consider what that evidence means.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Also, and you may have heard this, two people from that country and associated with the personal lawyer he tried to get involved in all of this were caught trying to flee the country rather than testify in the inquiry. That's public knowledge and worthy of consideration.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
I can’t wait til we get to hear the details of what he said to the Ukrainian President.
timschochet
Footballguy
Fiona Hill testifying today:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/10/14/politics/who-is-fiona-hill/index.html
What she says could destroy Trump’s latest defense- for the umpteenth time.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/10/14/politics/who-is-fiona-hill/index.html
What she says could destroy Trump’s latest defense- for the umpteenth time.
adonis
Footballguy
His defenses are inexhaustible and fortunately don't have to be compatible with each other.
"I didn't do it, but even if I did it wouldn't have been wrong, so I may have done it, but not exactly the way it's being portrayed by the fake news media, but if I had done it that way, it still wouldn't have been wrong but what's wrong is the leakers who tell the news this and they're the real enemy. Just because I did it exactly the way it was described doesn't mean anything, I mean look at the fake news and the leakers, because that's the real story, it's likely treason and espionage that this information even got out and remember what we used to do to those guilty of treason and espionage? I've been above board this whole time and I have nothing to hide. Of course I did it, it's smart to have done it and only I could've done it in such a way to win and make America Great Again. Look at all the liberals and fake news folks slobbering over themselves to make this seem like a bad thing to have done, it's the leakers and the lying press that are wrong, not a man of my remarkable intellect."
All the defenses will be destroyed. That’s why many of the GOP are choosing to stay quiet rather than offer up an excuse. They know that there’s a pretty good chance that it will be destroyed the next day.
It’s exactly what it is and likely will only get worse as more people testify.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I’m not saying any posters in particular but the talking points were already outrun by this weekend. Aside from the IG, Sondland, Yovanovitch, Volker and soon Hill have all validated the WBer’s claims in real time under oath.
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[scooter]
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
And partisan. Even the Trump appointees side with the Dems and the Deep State.
Apparently.
[scooter]
Footballguy
Ahhhh, it's the old "Keep firing prosecutors until they stop investigating you" strategy. Worked out great for Nixon.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Do you think its right that Donald Trump is using spies to infiltrate Congressional hearings? 
Matt Gaetz was ejected from Fiona Hill's closed-door deposition. The House parliamentarian told Gaetz he's not allowed to attend the hearing because he doesn't sit on any of the panels that are conducting the impeachment inquiry.
Matt Gaetz was ejected from Fiona Hill's closed-door deposition. The House parliamentarian told Gaetz he's not allowed to attend the hearing because he doesn't sit on any of the panels that are conducting the impeachment inquiry.
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
Sheriff Bart
Footballguy
I would like to see video of this peas.Do you think its right that Donald Trump is using spies to infiltrate Congressional hearings?
Matt Gaetz was ejected from Fiona Hill's closed-door deposition. The House parliamentarian told Gaetz he's not allowed to attend the hearing because he doesn't sit on any of the panels that are conducting the impeachment inquiry.
msommer
Footballguy
-fish-
Footballguy
To be fair, he was probably just drunk and stumbled into the wrong room.Do you think its right that Donald Trump is using spies to infiltrate Congressional hearings?
Matt Gaetz was ejected from Fiona Hill's closed-door deposition. The House parliamentarian told Gaetz he's not allowed to attend the hearing because he doesn't sit on any of the panels that are conducting the impeachment inquiry.
dkp993
Footballguy
I really just don’t get this argument at all especially when it’s compounded by the same people saying it over and over again. If it “sucks” and is a “cesspool” why continue to frequent it? To be clear Jon I’m not trying to run you off, I appreciate your engagement and want it to continue but the victim role and complaining don’t make sense and are hollow.
adonis
Footballguy
Remember a few decades ago when Nunes was playing this role for the Trump administration? What was that, 1952 or something?Do you think its right that Donald Trump is using spies to infiltrate Congressional hearings?
Matt Gaetz was ejected from Fiona Hill's closed-door deposition. The House parliamentarian told Gaetz he's not allowed to attend the hearing because he doesn't sit on any of the panels that are conducting the impeachment inquiry.
Back when Obama had been spying on the Trump campaign, and Nunes was running back and forth to the White House for special intelligence briefings.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Annnnd here is Mike Huckabee with Parnas and Fruman.
- There have been a couple good posts in here about why/how Russian and Ukrainian money got into our politics. It's complex, but hopefully at the end of all this there is a fix. I'm not sure that fixing the Citizens United decision is specifically it either (though that's part of it) because this stuff is inherently outside the system. I love the Fara enforcement underway, that's a piece. But the why and the solution of it is a long discussion.
- There have been a couple good posts in here about why/how Russian and Ukrainian money got into our politics. It's complex, but hopefully at the end of all this there is a fix. I'm not sure that fixing the Citizens United decision is specifically it either (though that's part of it) because this stuff is inherently outside the system. I love the Fara enforcement underway, that's a piece. But the why and the solution of it is a long discussion.
OrtonToOlsen
Footballguy
OrtonToOlsen
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Amused to Death
Footballguy
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
So we have moved on from Russia? What is the next "insurance policy" after Ukraine? Don't get me wrong, I think every POTUS could be impeached if you spend enough time and effort. But this effort started prior to 2016.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
You mean the impeachable acts started prior to 2016? I'm a little confused by your post unless you mistakenly believe that these investigations should be happening.
And, no, we haven't "moved on" from Russia, not if there's dirt there (and I think there is). and wtf is an "insurance policy." Your post looks less informed the more I look at it.
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apalmer
Footballguy
Those stinkin' Libs started working on Trump's impeachment back before he was nominated, and maybe before he was even a candidate. Wouldn't surprise me if Obama's grandmother was working on it at the same time she was faking his birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers. See, she know Barack would run for president and she though maybe Trump would run at the same time so she needed to set him up for impeachment, just in case.
ETA: When Limbaugh and Hannity start running with this story, I want full credit. Remember, you heard it here(sy) first.
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Mile High
Footballguy
How is that even possible. Just last week the closed door hearings were being done in some top secret bunker that only allowed Democrats.Do you think its right that Donald Trump is using spies to infiltrate Congressional hearings?
Matt Gaetz was ejected from Fiona Hill's closed-door deposition. The House parliamentarian told Gaetz he's not allowed to attend the hearing because he doesn't sit on any of the panels that are conducting the impeachment inquiry.
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
Thanks for your response. I am a little confused about the bolded. Don't you believe the investigations should be happening?
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