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***Official Donald J. Trump Impeachment (Whistleblower) Thread*** (6 Viewers)

fatguyinalittlecoat said:
AZ and GA jumped from no Dem Senators to two pretty quick.  
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They did.  AZ may be for good, not so sure about GA longer term when mail in balloting is no longer the norm there.

Once reliably blue WI is not so much anymore either.  The rust belt is turning more red by the year, just as states like NV, AZ, CO, and NM shifted more blue.  I could actually argue that of those five states with split senators, the only two that are possibly more likely blue than red are only temporarily that way.  WI and PA are neither safe blue states anymore, so the movement is toward the R's there.

 
AZ is now blue.  GA is now blue.  Biden, the most boring candidate ever, just crushed the most popular republican candidate ever.  And the GOP is now known as the whackjob, cardboard masterbating, conspiracy theory believing party and supporters of domestic terrorism and treason.  Dems shouldn't be worried.  

 
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beef said:
AZ is now blue.  GA is now blue.  Biden, the most boring candidate ever, just crushed the most popular republican candidate ever.  And the GOP is now known as the whackjob, cardboard masterbating, conspiracy theory believing party and supporters of domestic terrorism and treason.  Dems shouldn't be worried.  
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HOT TAKE

 
Nailed it. 

It is a sad commentary on our times that one political party in America is given a free pass to denigrate the rule of law, defame law enforcement, cheer mobs, excuse rioters, and transform justice into a tool of political vengeance, and persecute, blacklist, cancel and suppress all people and viewpoints with whom or which they disagree. I always have, and always will, be a champion for the unwavering rule of law, the heroes of law enforcement, and the right of Americans to peacefully and honorably debate the issues of the day without malice and without hate.
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What a guy

Mitch calls Trump “morally responsible” for the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol. Calls Trump's actions “a disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty.” votes to acquit. This guy :lol:

 
tonydead said:
Nailed it. 
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He couldn't help himself: 

"This has been yet another phase of the greatest witch hunt in the history of our Country. No president has ever gone through anything like it, and it continues because our opponents cannot forget the almost 75 million people, the highest number ever for a sitting president, who voted for us just a few months ago."

Great shtick!

 
The General said:
What a guy

Mitch calls Trump “morally responsible” for the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol. Calls Trump's actions “a disgraceful, disgraceful dereliction of duty.” votes to acquit. This guy :lol:
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McConnell did what he always does, because that’s who he is. Silver lining, now he can’t hold up progress.

 
The General said:
He couldn't help himself: 

"This has been yet another phase of the greatest witch hunt in the history of our Country. No president has ever gone through anything like it, and it continues because our opponents cannot forget the almost 75 million people, the highest number ever for a sitting president, who voted for us just a few months ago."

Great shtick!
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I don't understand. How was Trump able to issue a statement to the masses without Twitter?

 
knowledge dropper said:
Keep pushing for your pound of flesh and see what happens.  The best thing for all parties is to chill out and focus on middle ground issues. The left burned our cities and terrorized for months.  People on the right saw it every night and frustration grew each day as it was called peaceful, romanticized and saw no accountability. January 6th was a seismic reaction to months of activity. Witch hunts and an eye for an eye are the surest way for it to happen again. 
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See what happens.... sure.

What else could happen? 
 

There is a BLM thread if you want to talk about that unrelated issue over there, have at it.

January 6 was a seismic reaction to months of Trumps lies about the election.

There are many people that need to be held accountable for the insurrection.

 
The General said:
He couldn't help himself: 

"This has been yet another phase of the greatest witch hunt in the history of our Country. No president has ever gone through anything like it, and it continues because our opponents cannot forget the almost 75 million people, the highest number ever for a sitting president, who voted for us just a few months ago."

Great shtick!
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If the broom and pointy hat fit...

 
Cowboysfan8 said:
He will realize that life is so much better without the constant pressure and stress and decide he’s done

imo
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Zero chance he’s done. I’d expect him to announce his candidacy soon. Constant pressure and stress? How much do you think he’s going to enjoy life outside the presidency when reality hits that he’s no longer protected against prosecution? Between criminal cases and other lawsuits he’s not going have that much fun as a private citizen and will be eager to get back to rallies and fundraising.

 
I skipped six pages and 12 hours in this thread. What happened to the witnesses? When was the switch flipped to cause an immediate vote?

 
phandango said:
I don't understand. How was Trump able to issue a statement to the masses without Twitter?
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He released it via CancelCulture.com.  That's where everyone who's had their First Amendment rights stripped and is being censored congregates now.  Or so many people are saying.

 
dozer said:
See what happens.... sure.

What else could happen? 
 

There is a BLM thread if you want to talk about that unrelated issue over there, have at it.

January 6 was a seismic reaction to months of Trumps lies about the election.

There are many people that need to be held accountable for the insurrection.
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I agree.  All of the insurrections.  Hopefully we get the ball rolling with the Durham Report.  

 
Biff84 said:
Zero chance he’s done. I’d expect him to announce his candidacy soon. Constant pressure and stress? How much do you think he’s going to enjoy life outside the presidency when reality hits that he’s no longer protected against prosecution? Between criminal cases and other lawsuits he’s not going have that much fun as a private citizen and will be eager to get back to rallies and fundraising.
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IMO the fix is in already.  Establishment Rs are hoping local prosecutors like the ones in GA and NY do their dirty work for them.  Whether Trump cooperates with this plan or finishes burning the party to the ground is an open question IMO.

 
Biff84 said:
Zero chance he’s done. I’d expect him to announce his candidacy soon. Constant pressure and stress? How much do you think he’s going to enjoy life outside the presidency when reality hits that he’s no longer protected against prosecution? Between criminal cases and other lawsuits he’s not going have that much fun as a private citizen and will be eager to get back to rallies and fundraising.
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I tend to agree with @Cowboysfan8 on this one. He’s not running again. 
What he WILL do is spend effort attempting to primary everyone who voted against him in the House and Senate on impeachment, along with the governor of Georgia and other perceived enemies in the Republican Party, and that will be extremely problematic for the GOP. But as I wrote earlier, that’s their problem not mine. He’s in their heads. 

 
timschochet said:
I tend to agree with @Cowboysfan8 on this one. He’s not running again. 
What he WILL do is spend effort attempting to primary everyone who voted against him in the House and Senate on impeachment, along with the governor of Georgia and other perceived enemies in the Republican Party, and that will be extremely problematic for the GOP. But as I wrote earlier, that’s their problem not mine. He’s in their heads. 
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Running doesn’t mean he will be the candidate in 2024 or that he will even make it that far. It’s to allow him to fundraise and have a good excuse to hold rallies. The candidates he promotes will win primaries and lose in the generals. He will be an anchor on the Republican Party.

 
Biff84 said:
Running doesn’t mean he will be the candidate in 2024 or that he will even make it that far. It’s to allow him to fundraise and have a good excuse to hold rallies. The candidates he promotes will win primaries and lose in the generals. He will be an anchor on the Republican Party.
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agreed.  also allows him to make a lot of money.  wash campaign funds into trump org revenue.  

 
timschochet said:
I tend to agree with @Cowboysfan8 on this one. He’s not running again. 
What he WILL do is spend effort attempting to primary everyone who voted against him in the House and Senate on impeachment, along with the governor of Georgia and other perceived enemies in the Republican Party, and that will be extremely problematic for the GOP. But as I wrote earlier, that’s their problem not mine. He’s in their heads. 
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"their"

 
Shatner! said:
Being acquitted using a loophole because you are scared of being primaried is not the same as not guilty. He's clearly guilty of the actual act. Mcconnell and many of the Republicans who voted to acquit have admitted as such.
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You keep saying clearly. The fact of the matter is is that it's not as clear as you think it is.

In fact, it's so "not clear" that he was acquitted for a second time.  I guess it wasn't clear enough.  

And let's not pretend here: this isn't a court of law, this is the house and the Senate where simply hating a guy is enough to vote for impeachment and conviction.

 
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Chaz McNulty said:
This vote total keeps growing.  Even when it doesn't.  Did they just do a recount that moved Trump off of his 74.2M votes?  
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It's almost as if you guys are trying to ignore the actual point of the post with some kind of distraction.  You guys going to check my spelling next and go after that?

I've never seen two guys get so hung up on such a small number difference and completely go off on a separate tangent than actually be man enough to argue the point I was making.

Par for the course, I guess.

 
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Kal El said:
He can’t do anything now that he’s not majority leader. Before, he held up hundreds of pieces of legislation, because he didn’t want to do his job.
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do we really want to get into this argument? Because if you go back when Democrats had power they were holding up legislation as well.

Let's not act like this is something new and surprising. It isn't and it's been like this on both sides of the aisle since forever. 

Each side holds up legislation that's not favorable to their side all the time.  It's called politics.   Neither side is fighting for you and me. If they were then they wouldn't hold up legislation.

 
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BladeRunner said:
It's almost as if you guys are trying to ignore the actual point of the post with some kind of distraction.  You guys going to check my spelling next and go after that?

I've never seen two guys get so hung up on such a small number difference and completely go off on a separate tangent than actually be man enough to argue the point I was making.

Par for the course, I guess.
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You keep focusing on the total number of votes Trump got.  Do you think the reason Joe Biden got 81.2M votes was because he's a charismatic dynamo?  Or do you think that was a repudiation of Trump?  And Trump had the advantage of being the incumbent.  The advantage of Republicans voting at a higher percentage.  And he still lost by 7M votes.  It wasn't close.

The best thing that can happen to the Dems is that Trump stays heavily involved in the Republican party.  I'll admit that I would like to see Trump gone.  Not because I'm worried about him winning the election in 2024.  But because I'm worried about him losing the election in 2024 and seeing all kinds of crazy come out of the woodwork again.

 
Sea Duck said:
Trump got 31% of eligible voters. He's spiking the football over a population increase.

Imagine Jo Jorgensen bragging about getting more votes than Abe Lincoln, and that's about as silly as Trump looks when he brags about his vote total.
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Plus we must assume that some number of voters will change their minds given the actions and reactions to January 6th. I suspect many more will move away from Trump rather than towards him, it's really just a question of degrees.

 
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