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That’s more like it.This post is like rain on your wedding day.
eta. Seriously. I always expect an Alanis reference from Tim.
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That’s more like it.This post is like rain on your wedding day.
Hasn't the WH already been caught releasing fake transcripts? And there is the whole sharpie affair. Whose to believe these guys other then the people who have already been duped by the conman.Nadler and Schiff are pretty stupid but they got Pelosi on board before the transcript and whistleblower report even came out.
For sure. The more I think about the happier I am. Pelosi caved to the extreme left and didn't even wait for the transcript or whistleblower report. Amazing. I am convinced this will blow up in the Dems face in 2020. My biggest fear is the Dems getting control of the House and Senate and a progressive like Warren gets elected and ruins our country with her horrible policies. This will get the dems in red districts on record and get them voted out for their stupidity. Love it!I...dunno.
I heard an interview with this woman representative of the RNC this afternoon. She reminded me a little of @Don't Noonan She seemed positively gleeful about impeachment. Claimed that it would guarantee winning Michigan and Wisconsin, and taking back the House. I mean she was really excited.
Oh I am sure there are going to be people like you who don't believe it.Hasn't the WH already been caught releasing fake transcripts? And there is the whole sharpie affair. Whose to believe these guys other then the people who have already been duped by the conman.
A senior Trump administration official told Fox News late Tuesday that the administration will release a document showing the intelligence community inspector general found the whistleblower who leveled an explosive accusation against President Trump concerning his talks with Ukraine had “political bias” in favor of “a rival candidate” of the president.
The official did not identify the name of the rival candidate. Separately, a senior administration official told Fox News the White House has been working as quickly as it can to release to Congress the whistleblower complaint involving President Trump's conversations with the leader of Ukraine, as long as it's legally possible.
The news came just hours after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi initiated a formal impeachment inquiry by alleging that the administration was hiding the complaint.
The senior administration official told Fox News that the White House had nothing to hide, that there has been no wrongdoing, and that the White House's general position has been that it will make everything possible available to Congress or the public regarding Trump's conversations with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and the complaint to the intelligence community's inspector general.
A source familiar with the matter told Fox News this week that the whistleblower had no firsthand knowledge of Trump's July call with Zelensky. Trump vowed earlier Tuesday to release a "complete" transcript of the call by Wednesday.
A senior administration official told Fox News there are a “few words” in the transcript that will raise eyebrows, but it is nowhere near as inflammatory as Democrats have suggested.
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But holy god man, can you please stop with the 12 year old texting her best friend emoji overload? Seriously
The White House had earned the disbelief with their past actions.Oh I am sure there are going to be people like you who don't believe it.
Is this the true? I thought it was going to be the "transcript" only.Yes, I do. Here’s what we know.
1) McConnell and the Rs wouldn’t side with the Democrats about the color of the sky. All of a sudden today we have a 100-0 vote to release the transcripts of the call?
2) Trump is one of the most dishonest humans ever. He lives for the lie and to mislead. All of a sudden today he decided to release the call and the transcript? None of this adds up. They knew by delaying this it would send the dems into a tailspin.
I have no doubt he did something stupid, because duh, but once this got out there somebody from the WH briefed McConnell on the contents of the call and they laid the cheese for the angry mob. Pelosi’s instincts were right but she got overruled by her troops. If this turns out to be nothing it completely destroys the D’s chances of ever impeaching again and puts much-needed wind behind his sails for 2020.
Agreed. Anyone who has dedicated their life to truth, justice, the rule of law, and has sworn an oath to the Constitution is anti-Trump.$100 side bet that the whistleblower is an anti-Trump clown like a Peter Strzok. Guarantee this person is biased against Trump.
The extreme left?For sure. The more I think about the happier I am. Pelosi caved to the extreme left and didn't even wait for the transcript or whistleblower report. Amazing. I am convinced this will blow up in the Dems face in 2020. My biggest fear is the Dems getting control of the House and Senate and a progressive like Warren gets elected and ruins our country with her horrible policies. This will get the dems in red districts on record and get them voted out for their stupidity. Love it!
From the white house only? No...why would anyone believe what comes out of there right now?Oh I am sure there are going to be people like you who don't believe it.
Great post. The whistler blowers account and testimony is the key here not the call. Guaranteed the call will not provide anything that will change anyone’s current position. There will be enough wiggle room for supporters to justify.Yes, I do. Here’s what we know.
1) McConnell and the Rs wouldn’t side with the Democrats about the color of the sky. All of a sudden today we have a 100-0 vote to release the transcripts of the call?
2) Trump is one of the most dishonest humans ever. He lives for the lie and to mislead. All of a sudden today he decided to release the call and the transcript? None of this adds up. They knew by delaying this it would send the dems into a tailspin.
I have no doubt he did something stupid, because duh, but once this got out there somebody from the WH briefed McConnell on the contents of the call and they laid the cheese for the angry mob. Pelosi’s instincts were right but she got overruled by her troops. If this turns out to be nothing it completely destroys the D’s chances of ever impeaching again and puts much-needed wind behind his sails for 2020.
Is it OK that the White House has already identified the whistleblower, well before the report is released to Congress? This doesn't seem ok.
I don’t understand the point of this argument. “Yea I broke the law, but the person who called the cops didn’t like me!”
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“Rudy — he did all of this,” one U.S. official said. “This s---show that we’re in — it’s him injecting himself into the process.”
Several officials traced their initial concerns about the path of U.S.-Ukrainian relations to news reports and interviews granted by Giuliani in which he began to espouse views and concerns that did not appear connected to U.S. priorities or policy.
The former New York mayor appears to have seen Zelensky, a political neophyte elected president of Ukraine in April and sworn in in May, as a potential ally on two political fronts: punishing those Giuliani suspected of playing a role in exposing the Ukraine-related corruption of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, and delivering political ammunition against Biden.
After the conclusion of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation of Russia’s role in the 2016 presidential election, Giuliani turned his attention to Ukraine, officials said, and soon began pushing for personnel changes at the embassy while seeking meetings with Zelensky subordinates. He also had his own emissaries in Ukraine who were meeting with officials, setting up meetings for him and sending back information that he could circulate in the United States.
The U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, became a primary Giuliani target.
Yovanovitch, a longtime State Department Foreign Service officer, arrived in Ukraine as ambassador at the end of the Obama administration, more than two years after an uprising centered on Kiev’s Independence Square ousted the Russian-leaning government.
Though she was widely respected in the national security community for her efforts to prod Ukraine to take on corruption, Giuliani targeted Yovanovitch with wild accusations including that she played a secret role in exposing Manafort and was part of a conspiracy orchestrated by the liberal financier George Soros.
“She should be part of the investigation as part of the collusion,” Giuliani said in a recent interview with The Washington Post, adding that “she is now working for Soros.” Yovanovitch is still employed by the State Department and is a fellow at Georgetown University. She declined to comment.
Yovanovitch, who was to depart in July after a three-year assignment, was prematurely ordered back to Washington, a move that both baffled and unnerved senior officials at the State Department and the White House, officials said.
Within days of her ouster on May 9, Giuliani seemed determined to seize an unsanctioned diplomatic role for himself, announcing plans to travel to Ukraine to push for investigations that would “be very, very helpful to my client, and may turn out to be helpful to my government.”
Giuliani canceled the trip amid an ensuing backlash over his purpose but later met with one of Zelensky’s senior aides in Madrid and pressed the issue of Ukraine’s helping against Biden.
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It appears that the more info that @Don't Noonan was waiting for was a Fox News report about a White House statement.Just like the Mueller report, I choose not to jump to conclusions and wait for more info to come out.
How so?Ooof, this is looking more and more by the minute that the Dems pooped down their leg once again.
Can't. Get. Out. Of. Own. Way.
Hey chief, I am not the one who started impeachment proceedings today. . There are also many folks in here who thought is was time to impeach Trump two weeks ago. But yeah, I am out of line. .It appears that the more info that @Don't Noonan was waiting for was a Fox News report about a White House statement.
Stupidgate?Just another day in Stupidgate. It's amazing how amazing this all is. McConnell can't hide from it anymore. The 100-0 Senate vote is... striking.
Neither did Pelosi. There was no vote and no articles of impeachment. Fundamentally, nothing's changed since this morning.Hey chief, I am not the one who started impeachment proceedings today. . There are also many folks in here who thought is was time to impeach Trump two weeks ago. But yeah, I am out of line. .
I feel very confident this is another nothing burger but like the Mueller report I will wait for it to play out.
Impeachment proceedings were started today?Hey chief, I am not the one who started impeachment proceedings today. . There are also many folks in here who thought is was time to impeach Trump two weeks ago. But yeah, I am out of line. .
I feel very confident this is another nothing burger but like the Mueller report I will wait for it to play out.
Coming out tomorrow.JUST RELEASE THE AUDIO ALREADY. Seriously, why is there a delay? Just do it.
Apparently the calls between the president and foreign leaders aren’t recorded and haven’t been since 1974. So that makes this move by the D’s.....even worse. Trump’s mob boss way of persuading somebody isn’t going to show in the transcript.Is this the true? I thought it was going to be the "transcript" only.
Which as someone already point out The White House Transcript Is Missing the Most Explosive Part of the Trump–Putin Press Conference
I learned today that the White House is leary of audio tapes since Nixon. There will be transcripts but no audio.JUST RELEASE THE AUDIO ALREADY. Seriously, why is there a delay? Just do it.
They didn't really "force" anything, though. That senate resolution was non-binding, pure optics. The GOP knew this:Great post. The whistler blowers account and testimony is the key here not the call. Guaranteed the call will not provide anything that will change anyone’s current position. There will be enough wiggle room for supporters to justify.
Absolutely zero chance McConnell goes along with this without some foreknowledge that this doesn’t play politically well for R’s. If the call would have actually revealed something they would have hid behind procedural technicalities forever and not forced it out in the open.
Igor Bobic @igorbobic
So I spoke to a few GOP senators just now about Schumer's resolution calling on the release of the whistleblower complaint. They didn't know what I was talking about or that it even happened.
"It's just a resolution, then?" Ron Johnson says. "I guess then, who cares?"
"I am not familiar with it. When did that occur?" senator Braun says of Schumer's resolution, which just passed "unanimously" on the floor.
https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1176606762700562433
Given his security clearance, if that were true I would be very concerned if I were the administration.BREAKING NEWS - ADAM SCHIFF IS THE WHISTLEBLOWER!
Makes sense, but I’m still concerned about Mitch being “on board” in any way. I’d bet on Trump publicly admitting he was wrong (about anything) before I’d bet on Mitch doing something that has the slightest chance of being positive for the Democrats.They didn't really "force" anything, though. That senate resolution was non-binding, pure optics. The GOP knew this:
Don’t worry, even if not you’ll find a way to say he or she is.$100 side bet that the whistleblower is an anti-Trump clown like a Peter Strzok. Guarantee this person is biased against Trump.
This sounds like new math.Trump supporters simply won't care. Cross off 35% of the voting public from even having an opinion here.
Another 15-30% are GOP swayables...conservatives or republicans who don't like Trump, but don't like the MSM even more. If Trump can spin this in such a way to get their support too, he can come out of this with more grievances than ever, care of the democratic house that voted to impeach as well as the MSM jumping all over this.
New math is:This sounds like new math.
Yes, I can see how the truth and context would be worrisome.I learned today that the White House is leary of audio tapes since Nixon. There will be transcripts but no audio.
It's not about the transcripts. But better to get ahead before Trumo releases his sharpie doctored transcript.Why in Gods name did Pelosi not wait until the transcript was released??? If this is another nothing they are going to hand Trump another 4 years!!
please don't fall into the trap of thinking the transcript means anything, it's Trump's effort to get in front of the story and control the narrativeWhy in Gods name did Pelosi not wait until the transcript was released??? If this is another nothing they are going to hand Trump another 4 years!!
Good point. They couldn't even release freaking weather map.It's not about the transcripts. But better to get ahead before Trumo releases his sharpie doctored transcript.
I think she was likely facing a rebellion if they didn't proceed based on what Trump has already publicly admitted to.Why in Gods name did Pelosi not wait until the transcript was released??? If this is another nothing they are going to hand Trump another 4 years!!
also my hunch is that she must know a lot worse is coming, otherwise she would not have pulled the triggerWhy in Gods name did Pelosi not wait until the transcript was released??? If this is another nothing they are going to hand Trump another 4 years!!
Keystone Politicians.Why in Gods name did Pelosi not wait until the transcript was released??? If this is another nothing they are going to hand Trump another 4 years!!