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Trump supporters: How could Trump possibly have known that John Barron was committing crimes?"The committee now calls John Barron as a witness." [Trump enters wearing Groucho glasses]
Trump supporters: How could Trump possibly have known that John Barron was committing crimes?"The committee now calls John Barron as a witness." [Trump enters wearing Groucho glasses]
Why do the margins have to be 3" on each side?
That's how laws are always formatted. I think it has to do with how they're bound or something.Why do the margins have to be 3" on each side?
To kill trees. I recall 1-inch margins being proposed in AOC's GND.Why do the margins have to be 3" on each side?
100%Can someone give me a realistic percentage of Trump actually becoming impeached from this. I refuse to get my hopes up after Russia.
Impeached by the House....95%Can someone give me a realistic percentage of Trump actually becoming impeached from this. I refuse to get my hopes up after Russia.
Impeached? Probably 90%. Impeached and removed? Maybe 10%.Can someone give me a realistic percentage of Trump actually becoming impeached from this. I refuse to get my hopes up after Russia.
My take:Impeached by the House....95%
Convicted and removed by the Senate... with this GOP run bunch making excuses for him.
Probably not....unless "Bloodbath" is a swing of 2-3 seats.My take:
Impeached by the House...99%
Convicted and removed by the GOP controlled Senate...10%
Bloodbath for the GOP in 2020...100%
The only reason to expose this person's name is for retaliation, and to try to drag their name through the mud. For what purpose though? This was just one person throwing a red flag onto the field. A whole slew of people have testified well beyond that. Is the GOP is hanging their hat on "AHA! This guy only has an Associate's Degree! And he once received a ticket for underage drinking! Trump is free and clear!!11!!"?
You guys really think chance of removal is that high? I think that unless they have Trump on video shooting someone the chance of removal is virtually 0%. I mean the guy has 90% GOP approval. I don't think that a video of him trying to bribe Ukraine would move the needle much. I bet that most people aren't even sure if that's really such a bad thing.My take:
Impeached by the House...99%
Convicted and removed by the GOP controlled Senate...10%
Bloodbath for the GOP in 2020...100%
If there is any link at all that the whotleblower is a never Trumper or a demo it muddies the narrative so folks like hannity and limbaugh can juxtapose the reality that the whistleblower revealed factual evidence of a potential abuse of power with the alternate facts that this was a hit job and another attempt to smear the poor dupe sitting in the Whitehouse.The only reason to expose this person's name is for retaliation, and to try to drag their name through the mud. For what purpose though?
Just read this. That interview was cringey.GOP Congressman Admits He Could Have Gone to Impeachment Hearings But Didn’t, Hasn’t Read Testimony
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/gop-congressman-admits-he-could-have-gone-to-impeachment-hearings-but-didnt-hasnt-read-testimony/amp/
Anyone who is remotely critical of the president is a never Trumper.If there is any link at all that the whotleblower is a never Trumper or a demo it muddies the narrative so folks like hannity and limbaugh can juxtapose the reality that the whistleblower revealed factual evidence of a potential abuse of power with the alternate facts that this was a hit job and another attempt to smear the poor dupe sitting in the Whitehouse.
Seems to be the definition these days. It's 100% all trump, or you're never trumper.Anyone who is remotely critical of the president is a never Trumper.
Non-liberals, that is. He won't call a liberal a never Trumper.Anyone who is remotely critical of the president is a never Trumper.
To be fair, nobody was going to take the whistleblower seriously as it was all hearsay. The transcript of the phone call is key and it does not show any wrongdoing by Trump.I've said it before, and I'll say it again - the Whistleblower is a non-entity at this point.
The whistleblower was privy to many different threads here - but it seems like the House is doing a good job pulling them all together.
Oh, but we were so much smarter, then. We're dumber than that now. (My Backwards Pages)Nixon and Haldeman tried pinning Watergate on John Dean. That didn't work out well for them.
This isn't true no matter how many times it's been repeated. Asking Ukraine's President to investigate the Bidens is wrongdoing all by itself. And now we have quite a bit of evidence that it was part of a quid pro quo in which President Trump was willing to withhold money to Ukraine until this investigation was announced publicly. And it's direct evidence, not hearsay.To be fair, nobody was going to take the whistleblower seriously as it was all hearsay. The transcript of the phone call is key and it does not show any wrongdoing by Trump.
I'm half a week late to this, but I had to point out all I could think about while reading this conversation was the greatest word avalanche of all time.I’m beginning to think you don’t understand the term “condescending.”
That's why they tried to hide the evidence. Because there was no wrongdoing.To be fair, nobody was going to take the whistleblower seriously as it was all hearsay. The transcript of the phone call is key and it does not show any wrongdoing by Trump.
I saw some of this this am. Yoho is one of the GOP 'protesters' yet he is an actual member of the committee with access to the hearings, all of them. In fact something like 48 or so Republicans have had access to live hearings.GOP Congressman Admits He Could Have Gone to Impeachment Hearings But Didn’t, Hasn’t Read Testimony
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/gop-congressman-admits-he-could-have-gone-to-impeachment-hearings-but-didnt-hasnt-read-testimony/amp/
It is 0%.It’s not 0%. If Senate sees losing the chamber because public turns, you will see a Caesar style turning on Trump, not gradually, but all at once.
That interview was pretty uncomfortable. "We read the summary of Volker's and uhhhhhhhhh................ one other"I saw some of this this am. Yoho is one of the GOP 'protesters' yet he is an actual member of the committee with access to the hearings, all of them. In fact something like 48 or so Republicans have had access to live hearings.
Even when he was being interviewed, there was a hearing going on. He said he did not want to go to it, except that he would pop in to ask a handful of questions.
Something I've seen happen recently, with the Mueller report, is that GOPers ar instructed not to read material because it might more or less put them in a position of having to answer questions uncomfortably - ie lie or admit Bad Things - and it might risk their knowing something so that they may have to divert from voting instructions or talking points. This is consistent with that.
the base doesn't necessarily have to turn to lose the senateIt is 0%.
The public won't turn. the GOP base, which is totally devoted to Trump, doesn;t give a lick about any of this. He could do much worse and they still wouldn't care. And the sycophant senators who only care about power will do whatever is in their own best interest.
All of the above, depending on which day you ask.Do Trump supporters acknowledge that withholding foreign aid from Ukraine until they publicly announced an investigation into Biden is an impeachable offense? I mean, that seems obvious on its face, no? Is the hangup that it is okay so long as Ukraine was never made aware Trump was doing it?
Or, is it that they genuinely don't believe that Trump was leveraging the power of his office to help his personal campaign?
I genuinely don't understand how anyone can be okay with any version of what happened.
They didn't try to hide evidence.That's why they tried to hide the evidence. Because there was no wrongdoing.
It is subjective and once evidence is presented most folks who didn't already want to impeach Trump since we was elected will side with me.This isn't true no matter how many times it's been repeated. Asking Ukraine's President to investigate the Bidens is wrongdoing all by itself. And now we have quite a bit of evidence that it was part of a quid pro quo in which President Trump was willing to withhold money to Ukraine until this investigation was announced publicly. And it's direct evidence, not hearsay.
The evidence will show that President Trump put his own interests in front of the national interests. And in so doing, he jeopardized our national security (that is what the current testimony is about.)
I didn’t want to impeach him right awayIt is subjective and once evidence is presented most folks who didn't already want to impeach Trump since we was elected will side with me.
At least you aren't jadedIt is 0%.
The public won't turn. the GOP base, which is totally devoted to Trump, doesn;t give a lick about any of this. He could do much worse and they still wouldn't care. And the sycophant senators who only care about power will do whatever is in their own best interest.
You are in the minorityI didn’t want to impeach him right away
So I will keep an open mind. Hope you do as well.
Yep. Only about 10% of people changed their mind after this all came out. (I’m one like Tim.)You are in the minority
Just so I understand you correctly - you’re saying Republicans are participating and asking questions, is that right?Schiff instructing witnesses to not answer Republican questions
Seems legit. Totally normal. Well, if we are talking about the lying and corrupt Schiff it is.
Interesting that is what you picked out of my post.Just so I understand you correctly - you’re saying Republicans are participating and asking questions, is that right?
Well I’m glad to address the rest, but can we agree in advance that’s what’s happening?Interesting that is what you picked out of my post.
Republicans have not been able to call any witnesses and have selectively been able to question some, yesWell I’m glad to address the rest, but can we agree in advance that’s what’s happening?
Yes, oil. We like oil.Or that viscous stuff that floats on top of a pond
Depending on the question and jurisdiction that isn’t abnormal at all.Schiff instructing witnesses to not answer Republican questions
Seems legit. Totally normal. Well, if we are talking about the lying and corrupt Schiff it is.
As it was in the Nunes investigation of the FBI, as it was in the Benghazi investigation, and as it is in every House committee investigation. It’s run by the Chair and the other party participates but they don’t get to do any dang thing they want. Thanks.Republicans have not been able to call any witnesses and have selectively been able to question some, yes