***Official Donald J. Trump Impeachment (Whistleblower) Thread*** (2 Viewers)

[Sheriff Bart]

The White House is reportedly considering taking out a restraining order to silence the former national security adviser.

Screams LOOK HOW INNOCENT I AM!!! 

 

[badmojo1006]

Bolton told AG Barr privately that he was concerned Trump was giving personal favors to Autocratic leaders in Turkey and China.

No problem, nothing serious here...

 

[badmojo1006]

The White House is reportedly considering taking out a restraining order to silence the former national security adviser.

The dam is bursting. But will the GOP Senators care that they are waist deep in the muck and mire?

 

[Kal El]

The White House is reportedly considering taking out a restraining order to silence the former national security adviser.

Where does Trump keep getting these shovels to bury himself with?

 

[Mile High]

The dam is bursting. But will the GOP Senators care that they are waist deep in the muck and mire?

The truth always come out and it's the coverup that sinks you. One thing the American people do understand is what a coverup is. As I said in a post a few days ago Death by a thousand cuts. 

 

[OrtonToOlsen]

For the 100th time...

Trump is sick and tired of being accused of the things he’s done.

 

[badmojo1006]

For the 100th time...

Trump is sick and tired of being accused of the things he’s done.

READ THE TRANSCRIPT!

 

[The General]

From the twitters: Can’t wait to see what is revealed tomorrow in the John Bolton book excerpts advent calendar

 

[BladeRunner]

I do not believe Hillary ( who I don’t like) would even consider withholding half a bil in Ukraine aid to shake them down for dirt on her potential next opponent.  

it’s too stupid and sophomoric for her to even contemplate.  

No way, man.  

She would send her own husband and kid up the river if it meant she could have the presidency.

 

[Dickies]

The White House is reportedly considering taking out a restraining order to silence the former national security adviser.

Are restraining orders usually granted to prevent someone from talking?  Seems totally absurd. 

 

[The General]

Do any Trump supporters bother to post anymore in here?

Trump not even bothering making his lies halfway defendable at this point. 

Blatant Lie

 

[Slapdash]

Do any Trump supporters bother to post anymore in here?

Trump not even bothering making his lies halfway defendable at this point. 

Blatant Lie

Why would you believe your lying eyes?

 

[Henry Ford]

The dam is bursting. But will the GOP Senators care that they are waist deep in the muck and mire?

I’m sure they’ll be very concerned. 

 

[TripItUp]

Do any Trump supporters bother to post anymore in here?

Why would they?  Anybody who is not a liberal is incessantly attacked/mocked/ridiculed in this forum.  There is really no honest attempt to hear the other side.   

I'm not sure why I even come around and I'm not a Trump supporter per se and am seriously considering a vote for Klobuchar.

 

[OrtonToOlsen]

Interesting 

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2020/01/senators-overseeing-impeachment-got-campaign-cash-from-trump-team/#utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=r%2F_senators-overseeing-impeachment-01%2F27%2F20

 

[Daywalker]

READ THE TRANSCRIPT!

READ THE MANUSCRIPT!

 

[Daywalker]

Why would they?  Anybody who is not a liberal is incessantly attacked/mocked/ridiculed in this forum.  There is really no honest attempt to hear the other side.   

I'm not sure why I even come around and I'm not a Trump supporter per se and am seriously considering a vote for Klobuchar.

Poor white guy getting attacked by other white guys.

 

[TripItUp]

Poor white guy getting attacked by other white guys.

exhibit A

 

[timschochet]

Why would they?  Anybody who is not a liberal is incessantly attacked/mocked/ridiculed in this forum.  There is really no honest attempt to hear the other side.   

I'm not sure why I even come around and I'm not a Trump supporter per se and am seriously considering a vote for Klobuchar.

This gets a little old doesn’t it? If you offer honest conversation I’m sure you’ll get it in return. The vast majority of when people get ridiculed is when they DON’T offer honest conversation: either they’re gloating or mocking or they repeat an argument which has been debunked many times (for example, tonight @Bozeman Bruiser repeated the lie that Joe Biden got a guy fired who was investigating his son. So many people in the past  have pointed out to Bozeman that this is false, and have provided links to prove it. He never responds to them, waits a day or too, and then posts it again. How should people react to this?) 

But I’m curious: Klobuchar represents a 180 degree separation from Donald Trump on most issues: she is an internationalist, pro free trade, pro immigration, pro NATO, she believes in climate change, she will protect and preserve Obamacare, she wants to raise taxes on the very wealthy, she will appoint liberal judges who support woman’s reproductive choices. She’s level headed, competent, and there’s never been a hint of corruption about her. So why would you consider her over Trump? Do you find these attributes attractive? 

(Realistically Klobuchar needs to come in 1st or 2nd in Iowa to stay in the race. That doesn’t look so good right now.) 

 

[Henry Ford]

Why would they?  Anybody who is not a liberal is incessantly attacked/mocked/ridiculed in this forum.  There is really no honest attempt to hear the other side.   

I'm not sure why I even come around and I'm not a Trump supporter per se and am seriously considering a vote for Klobuchar.

Do you really think Yankee23Fan, IvanKaramazov, Maurile Tremblay, SaintsInDome2006, etc. are attacked/mocked/ridiculed incessantly?

 

[Snorkelson]

“I don’t see the need to have more witnesses unless we have a lot more witnesses,” said Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.). “I don’t know what the country would gain from that.”

 

[The General]

Why would they?  Anybody who is not a liberal is incessantly attacked/mocked/ridiculed in this forum.  There is really no honest attempt to hear the other side.   

I'm not sure why I even come around and I'm not a Trump supporter per se and am seriously considering a vote for Klobuchar.

Hardly. They are asked to explain this guys actions and justify how they can support him. I’m sure that gets tiring.

 

[pecorino]

Where does Trump keep getting these shovels to bury himself with?

All of his failed ground breakings..

 

[pecorino]

Are restraining orders usually granted to prevent someone from talking?  Seems totally absurd. 

They’re all out of strait jackets and muzzles. 

 

[pecorino]

Iirc today went like:

- Purpura - 1780’s Founders were trying to prevent problems from a parliamentary system that came into place in 1860s UK.

- Starr - ‘gosh I’m sorry about that whole Clinton thing.’

- Dershowitz - impeachment is an abuse of Congressional power.

- Bondi - Burisma, Zlochevsky, Yahtzee.

You missed the part when they said Obama is the real perp.

 

[Kal El]

All of his failed ground breakings..

That was a funnier response than anything I expected. Kudos.

 

[lazyike]

Adam Schiff took a bit of a hit at the impeachment inquiry for his mock portrayal of Trump as a mob boss and rightly so. What will the cost be for Pam Bondi's highly exaggerated version of Hunter Biden which was loaded with facts not in evidence. I would assume this will backfire seeing how there aren't any Democrats in Iowa tuning into Limbaugh or Fox news in Iowa who lapped up Bondi's bogus story. Unfortunately there is a chance it could hurt Biden in a general election who will tune into Trump at rallies repeating the same misinformation campaign he has been successful with in the past

 

[yak651]

Where does Trump keep getting these shovels to bury himself with?

Silly you, you should know he prefers rakes over shovels

 

[Kal El]

Silly you, you should know he prefers rakes over shovels

Probably true, really.

 

[Sammy3469]

R Sen. Lankford on Fox says Senate needs to see the manuscript.

This was always Trumps problem with Bolton, a whole bunch of Republican Senators trust Bolton more than Trump.  This made it an intra-Republican fight with forces that still have a lot of sway in the party (and it helps that Bolton’s PAC throws money around).

 

[the moops]

“I don’t see the need to have more witnesses unless we have a lot more witnesses,” said Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-N.D.). “I don’t know what the country would gain from that.”

So what is the problem with a lot more witnesses?

 

[stlrams]

Has anyone verified exactly what the Bolton manuscript says?   

 

[yak651]

R Sen. Lankford on Fox says Senate needs to see the manuscript.

So want to see manuscript that could be "dramatized" but don't want to hear from a witness under oath that they can question about the manuscript?

 

[yak651]

So what is the problem with a lot more witnesses?

Hard to keep throwing cover for your guy if people keep bringing up illegal/improper things he has done.

 

[sho nuff]

Why would they?  Anybody who is not a liberal is incessantly attacked/mocked/ridiculed in this forum.  There is really no honest attempt to hear the other side.   

I'm not sure why I even come around and I'm not a Trump supporter per se and am seriously considering a vote for Klobuchar.

Well...when the posts are about needing to investigate the irs scandal and fast and furious...
Also, part of the problem is thinking any disagreement is an attack.

 

[timschochet]

What a terrible day for Trump’s defense team yesterday. 

First you had Ken Starr complaining about the proliferation of impeachments. 

Next you had Pam Bondi spreading a bunch of Breitbart nonsense about Hunter Biden as a few dozen traditionalist Republican Senators fidgeted and gritted their teeth, visibly looking to escape. 

Finally there was Alan Dershowitz with his “Trump could take out an AR-15 and mow down his own secret service and it would not rise to the level of impeachable offense!” argument. 

 

[pecorino]

Asim Schiff took a bit of a hit at the impeachment inquiry for his mock portrayal of Trump as a mob boss and rightly so.

Definitely a misstep by Schiff, I was so disappointed when I first learned of it. The GOP is getting a lot of mileage out of it which is frustrating to me, seeing as how the really meaningful actions (and truly egregious missteps) can be drowned out by something that’s just unwise. The Dems need to be perfect and this was one unforced error. While I’m on that topic, I don’t think Schiff’s “head on a pike” comment was an error. He clearly qualified that it was from one media outlet and he also repeatedly said he hoped it was false. He did the same thing before his stupid dramatic re-enactment (giving a disclaimer) but it wasn’t enough.

 

[pecorino]

Has anyone verified exactly what the Bolton manuscript says?   

Saw a rumor that the whole thing may have been photocopied. Give it 8 hours. 

 

[timschochet]

 Alan Dershowitz complained bitterly to reporters yesterday that Jeffrey Epstein ruined his life, that though he (Dershowitz) was innocent, good friends no longer spoke to him and he wasn’t invited any more to parties at Martha’s Vineyard. He said he ran into Trump at the buffet line at Mar A Lago and Trump was one of the few people who said he believed Dershowitz about Epstein. 

You can’t make this stuff up. 

 

[The Commish]

Why would they?  Anybody who is not a liberal is incessantly attacked/mocked/ridiculed in this forum.  There is really no honest attempt to hear the other side.   

I'm not sure why I even come around and I'm not a Trump supporter per se and am seriously considering a vote for Klobuchar.

Personal anecdote for sure, but this has not been my experience.  

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

When did anyone say he’s a super genius?

Pretty short list really.  You have Stephen Hawking, Wile E. Coyote, and whoever invented the thong.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

Finally there was Alan Dershowitz with his “Trump could take out an AR-15 and mow down his own secret service and it would not rise to the level of impeachable offense!” argument. 

I'd argue that "mowing down his own secret service" is less a threat to the nation and its future than trading policy for personal favors.  So if the latter is not impeachable then of course the former is just fine for the president.

 

[timschochet]

What a terrible day for Trump’s defense team yesterday. 

First you had Ken Starr complaining about the proliferation of impeachments. 

Next you had Pam Bondi spreading a bunch of Breitbart nonsense about Hunter Biden as a few dozen traditionalist Republican Senators fidgeted and gritted their teeth, visibly looking to escape. 

Finally there was Alan Dershowitz with his “Trump could take out an AR-15 and mow down his own secret service and it would not rise to the level of impeachable offense!” argument. 

Oh I forgot to mention that Herschmann guy who, among a slew of ridiculous comments, suggested that it was Barack Obama who ought to be impeached. I’m sure that made ONE viewer very happy. 

 

[roadkill1292]

Asim Schiff took a bit of a hit at the impeachment inquiry for his mock portrayal of Trump as a mob boss and rightly so. What will the cost be for Pam Bondi's highly exaggerated version of Hunter Biden which was loaded with facts not in evidence. I would assume this will backfire seeing how there aren't any Democrats in Iowa tuning into Limbaugh or Fox news in Iowa who lapped up Bondi's bogus story. Unfortunately there is a chance it could hurt Biden in a general election who will tune into Trump at rallies repeating the same misinformation campaign he has been successful with in the past

Republican politicians are not held to the same standards of accuracy by Trump's base. Fox News's reason for existence is to maintain this loyalty.

 

[apalmer]

Pens are VERY serious business.  

They're in Washington, so they're probably Caps fans, right? Of course they hate the Pens. Good thing there are no pics of Trump with Crosby.

 

[Skoo]

Bolton told AG Barr privately that he was concerned Trump was giving personal favors to Autocratic leaders in Turkey and China.

No problem, nothing serious here...

I know that I like to do this from time to time but:

Let's all just take a minute and imagine what Fox News would be saying if this story was about Obama or Hillary.

 

[apalmer]

During these opening statements of the impeachment trial, only House managers and the President's lawyers are allowed to speak.

Dershowitz is definitely the President's lawyer.

"I'm not biased in favor of my own client" should be too dumb a claim to make out loud.

I wasn't watching-did he really claim not to be the President's lawyer? If so, and he is speaking, doesn't that make him a witness? If I'm a House Manager, I'm filing a motion claiming that the Senate has already allowed the defense to submit witness testimony and therefore the House must be allowed to do so. I'd love to hear the defense argue "no, he's not a witness, he's one of the President's attorneys. He simply lied to the tribunal".

 

[timschochet]

Pat Bondi did sadly explain that she was truly reluctant to spend a hour spewing slime and false innuendo against Hunter Biden; she really didn’t want to do it, but the Democrats forced her into it. 

 

[roadkill1292]

Imagine the #### that has been and continues to get buried in that house.  This far in, Trump still has people selling him out from the inside.  

imagine what full disclosure would look like?  Bananas.  

Somebody retweeted Liz Warren today promising to make every document relating to Trump's misdeeds public if she's elected.

 

[jm192]

Has there been any evidence of innocence presented today by the defense? 

I've definitely started to question things in light of the Bolton testimony.  But the idea that the accused has to prove their innocence is not one of them.