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*** OFFICIAL *** In-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (2 Viewers)

Team A gives: LeSean McCoy, '14 2nd

Team B gives: Le'Veon Bell, T.Y. Hilton, Kenbrell Thompkins

Team A's roster needed some help, Team B has a good shot at winning the league.
With trades like that A is going to need some help for a long time.

 
tdmills said:
If you didn't want an answer, then don't ask the question. I simply responded.

If you can't see through to the actual point, then i'll help you. I don't think EBF is this guru that his groupies in here talk him up to be. How are Chris Harper/Josh Boyce doing right now? Edwin Baker? Jon Baldwin? etc etc. Posters should start making him accountable for his calls because it may cost your team.
In the offseason you tried to start an argument with me because you said that I changed my mind too often about players. Now you have used the opposite critcism that I never change my mind as an excuse to jump into the fray and try to get your licks in. As Ernol suggested, it isn't about the analysis or the opinions. It's just you venting your personal beef using whatever justification you can latch onto at that exact moment in time.

I don't know where it all comes from. I think any time a person has confidence in himself, a certain segment of the population will project their own insecurities onto him and try to tear him down in order to feel better about themselves. Maybe that's part of the issue here. In your mind you believe that I have obtained a certain lofty status (saying that I'm a "guru" with "groupies") and clearly you've taken it upon yourself to try to tear me down from what you feel is unwarranted prestige or attention. Maybe, on some level, you're envious that your own rookie rankings received a lot less attention than mine. It feels silly pointing that out since message board popularity is hardly something to brag about, but I can't find many other legitimate reasons for your personal vendetta.

One of the funny ironies here is that nobody with a brain on this site really thinks I'm a guru or puts 100% stock in my opinions as you suggest they do. I think people understand that I'm just one of many voices on here. They might read what I type. Maybe I could even convince them to rethink certain things on specific occasions, but in general they're going to pick and choose what to agree with and what to reject. I did not see people rushing to grab Chris Harper or Josh Boyce in my leagues this year, just like I did not see them rushing to grab Bernard Pierce when I was touting him last year. That's because FF owners ultimately make their own decisions. I'm the same way. There are posters on here whose opinions I respect, but there is certainly nobody that I worship and nobody whose opinions I accept verbatim.

Having said that, I don't think what you're saying is completely without merit. I think my posting style can be a bit condescending and pompous at times. I'm sure there are more than a few people around here who find it grating. On the other hand, it's ironic that you criticize me for being too self-important while at the same time suggesting that anyone who posts in a manner that you find displeasing is somehow "wrong" and owes it to everyone to fall in line with your own subjective standards about how people should behave. I'm sorry to break this news to you, but nobody here has any obligation to you. If you don't like the way I post, don't read my posts. Simple. Expecting me to conform to a certain standard of conduct because you think that's how I should act is amusingly naive and egocentric.

I often disagree with posters on this site, but I try to keep those disagreements confined to specific FF topics rather than trying to police how other posters should behave. I think if you spent more time on quality analysis and less time looking for any excuse to express your personal grudges, people might have more respect for your opinions.

 
tdmills said:
cstu said:
tdmills said:
If you didn't want an answer, then don't ask the question. I simply responded.

If you can't see through to the actual point, then i'll help you. I don't think EBF is this guru that his groupies in here talk him up to be. How are Chris Harper/Josh Boyce doing right now? Edwin Baker? Jon Baldwin? etc etc. Posters should start making him accountable for his calls because it may cost your team.
This is crap and you know it. No one is a 'guru' here and even the professionals with their jobs on the line can't even do it with 50% accuracy.

It seems to me like you're singling EBF because he's one of the few willing to stick his neck out around here.
Your contention is incorrect. He has a following(groupies, whatever you want to call them) and I don't think they check into how often he's wrong. Nobody is right all the time, but his stubbornness is thicker than most, which is dangerous.

My biggest issue is demeanor and attention seeking in posting.
So you're like a knight in shining armor coming in to rescue those poor blind EBF groupies?

Come on, man. Give it up.

 
Team A gives: LeSean McCoy, '14 2nd

Team B gives: Le'Veon Bell, T.Y. Hilton, Kenbrell Thompkins

Team A's roster needed some help, Team B has a good shot at winning the league.
With trades like that A is going to need some help for a long time.
I tried to buy Shady earlier, was offered something absurd, even though I told him I was interested. Think it was something like DRich/AB/Decker/Cameron for Shady and two 2nds. Maybe not absurd, but pretty pricey. Guy also doesn't have his first as he gave it away to acquire Shady.

 
Team A gives: LeSean McCoy, '14 2nd

Team B gives: Le'Veon Bell, T.Y. Hilton, Kenbrell Thompkins

Team A's roster needed some help, Team B has a good shot at winning the league.
With trades like that A is going to need some help for a long time.
I agree I traded McCoy in dynasty a year and half ago and I got 1.02 which turned into Doug Martin, Percy Harvin, Rudolph and a 2013 first. He should still be fetching a haul like that.

 
10 team ppr start 1 qb / 2 rb / 3wr / 1 te / 1flex(any) / idp

I gave: Larry Fitzgerald (2 years)

Team A gave: Jordy Nelson (1 year)

I hate making moves for this year/week, but I think this really helps solidify my chance at winning it all this year (sitting at 6 - 2) and will start 3 of Calvin / Green / Blackmon / Nelson going forward, plus really helps me out of a bye week jam this week. I put my odds at keeping Nelson at 50/50, depending on how much I have to spend to keep Calvin (Who is also on 1 year)

Team A is sitting atop his division, and also has Brees / Sproles / Welker / Garcon / Witten with 1 year left, so this frees up cash for him to spend trying to protect his other 1 year guys instead of having to tie up a bunch in Nelson.

 
I likewise don't know where the idea that EBF has "groupies" is coming from, but as an aside, that's a really strong set of rookie rankings for immediately post-draft.
He gets credit for sticking to his guns on Stacy but largely it's pedestrian. Not trying to hate, but his top 7 ordering is bad, knocks the best fantasy player in the draft, Michael is not even listed, he lists Williams but gives him no credit, etc. A lot could change (Austin and Patterson could still emerge) but I think groupthink/adp provided a better ranking this year.

 
I likewise don't know where the idea that EBF has "groupies" is coming from, but as an aside, that's a really strong set of rookie rankings for immediately post-draft.
He gets credit for sticking to his guns on Stacy but largely it's pedestrian. Not trying to hate, but his top 7 ordering is bad, knocks the best fantasy player in the draft, Michael is not even listed, he lists Williams but gives him no credit, etc. A lot could change (Austin and Patterson could still emerge) but I think groupthink/adp provided a better ranking this year.
Maybe my recollection of the rookie rankings post-draft was off, then. I was thinking the Austin consensus was higher, the Lacy consensus was lower, the Allen consensus was lower, and the Ball consensus was much higher. Probably just hindsight bias on my part.

 
I likewise don't know where the idea that EBF has "groupies" is coming from, but as an aside, that's a really strong set of rookie rankings for immediately post-draft.
He gets credit for sticking to his guns on Stacy but largely it's pedestrian. Not trying to hate, but his top 7 ordering is bad, knocks the best fantasy player in the draft, Michael is not even listed, he lists Williams but gives him no credit, etc. A lot could change (Austin and Patterson could still emerge) but I think groupthink/adp provided a better ranking this year.
Maybe my recollection of the rookie rankings post-draft was off, then. I was thinking the Austin consensus was higher, the Lacy consensus was lower, the Allen consensus was lower, and the Ball consensus was much higher. Probably just hindsight bias on my part.
Faust's polls starting Aprl 27

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=684696

 
I likewise don't know where the idea that EBF has "groupies" is coming from, but as an aside, that's a really strong set of rookie rankings for immediately post-draft.
He gets credit for sticking to his guns on Stacy but largely it's pedestrian. Not trying to hate, but his top 7 ordering is bad, knocks the best fantasy player in the draft, Michael is not even listed, he lists Williams but gives him no credit, etc. A lot could change (Austin and Patterson could still emerge) but I think groupthink/adp provided a better ranking this year.
Maybe my recollection of the rookie rankings post-draft was off, then. I was thinking the Austin consensus was higher, the Lacy consensus was lower, the Allen consensus was lower, and the Ball consensus was much higher. Probably just hindsight bias on my part.
Faust's polls starting Aprl 27

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=684696
Thanks. So pretty much the opposite of what I thought. Definitely hindsight bias on my part.

ETA: Faust does work. Guy is a superstar.

 
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Whole number of deals shaking out this week, two Sundays before the deadline.

12 Team Dynasty PPR, no contracts, QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE's 1.5 PPR

Gave: Austin Collie

Got: 2014 3rd rounder (early, if it matters...like, 3.02)

Gave: Fasano

Got: Andre Brown..............this was offered to me by the (4-3) Graham Owner who thought he was not gonna go, had no one else

Gave: Julio Jones

Got: Gio, Jordy, 2014 2nd (early), 2014 2nd (mid)

This represents an amended deal from earlier in the thread (Page 18) whereas I was previously due a 2014 1st...he had traded it away in August, totally forgotten by both of us.

Other trades, same league, not involved.

Team B gives: Ladarius Green, Jonathan Stewart, 2014 1st (mid to late)

Team M gives: DeMarco Murray

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Team B gives: Khiry Robinson, Emmanuel Sanders, 2015 2nd

Team G gives: MJD :confused:

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Team P gives: Randall Cobb

Team R gives: Decker

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Team M gives: Hillis, Jacobs, Boldin

Team P gives: Two 2014 2nd rounders (one early, one mid to late) and Lance Dunbar

 
dynasty league

I traded AP for Fitz, 2014 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

all picks in the #12-14 range. Sold low?
With the context of the deal not fully explained, I don't think this is sold low...Fitz will outlast AP in terms of usefulness, by say, what, 3 or 4 years?

 
dynasty league

I traded AP for Fitz, 2014 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

all picks in the #12-14 range. Sold low?
With the context of the deal not fully explained, I don't think this is sold low...Fitz will outlast AP in terms of usefulness, by say, what, 3 or 4 years?
Fitz will likely play longer but I think Peterson could have more VBD over the next two years than Fitz in the rest of his career if he doesn't get a good QB or traded (although this seems to be a possibility).

 
dynasty league

I traded AP for Fitz, 2014 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

all picks in the #12-14 range. Sold low?
With the context of the deal not fully explained, I don't think this is sold low...Fitz will outlast AP in terms of usefulness, by say, what, 3 or 4 years?
Fitz will likely play longer but I think Peterson could have more VBD over the next two years than Fitz in the rest of his career if he doesn't get a good QB or traded (although this seems to be a possibility).
Surely to goodness Fitz will either influence the procurement of a decent QB (as he has, likely, and may continue to do so), or leverage an eventual trade to a team with the same. If you were Fitz, would you allow circumstances to diminish your potential for 3/4's of your career?

Or would you endure this crap just for a time, unto the exhaustion of your patience?

 
Team A gives: LeSean McCoy, '14 2nd

Team B gives: Le'Veon Bell, T.Y. Hilton, Kenbrell Thompkins

Team A's roster needed some help, Team B has a good shot at winning the league.
With trades like that A is going to need some help for a long time.
I agree I traded McCoy in dynasty a year and half ago and I got 1.02 which turned into Doug Martin, Percy Harvin, Rudolph and a 2013 first. He should still be fetching a haul like that.
I traded McCoy and a 3rd for Martin, 2nd & 4th just recently. Odds are heavily against me making the playoffs, while the team that received McCoy is arguable the strongest playoff contender right now.

 
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dynasty league

I traded AP for Fitz, 2014 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

all picks in the #12-14 range. Sold low?
With the context of the deal not fully explained, I don't think this is sold low...Fitz will outlast AP in terms of usefulness, by say, what, 3 or 4 years?
Fitz will likely play longer but I think Peterson could have more VBD over the next two years than Fitz in the rest of his career if he doesn't get a good QB or traded (although this seems to be a possibility).
Come off-season, Larry Fitzgerald and Cards will be on clock, when some believe a divorce is somewhere between possible and inevitable.
-Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter)
 
Whole number of deals shaking out this week, two Sundays before the deadline.

12 Team Dynasty PPR, no contracts, QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE's 1.5 PPR

Gave: Austin Collie

Got: 2014 3rd rounder (early, if it matters...like, 3.02)

Gave: Fasano

Got: Andre Brown..............this was offered to me by the (4-3) Graham Owner who thought he was not gonna go, had no one else

Gave: Julio Jones

Got: Gio, Jordy, 2014 2nd (early), 2014 2nd (mid)

This represents an amended deal from earlier in the thread (Page 18) whereas I was previously due a 2014 1st...he had traded it away in August, totally forgotten by both of us.

Other trades, same league, not involved.

Team B gives: Ladarius Green, Jonathan Stewart, 2014 1st (mid to late)

Team M gives: DeMarco Murray

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Team B gives: Khiry Robinson, Emmanuel Sanders, 2015 2nd

Team G gives: MJD :confused:

-------

Team P gives: Randall Cobb

Team R gives: Decker

-------

Team M gives: Hillis, Jacobs, Boldin

Team P gives: Two 2014 2nd rounders (one early, one mid to late) and Lance Dunbar
Hillis/Jacobs with Brown and maybe Wilson due back??? For two 2014 1sts? Ouch.

 
12 team ppr QRRWWTFKD

Worked out a huge deal. Probably lost the trade as of values for right now, but could win huge in a few years. Both teams are 3-3, I was tied in my division but didn't feel like I had the stable of RB's to win a playoff game.

Gave: Terrelle Pryor, Ryan Mathews, Daryl Richardson, A.J. Green, Jordan Cameron

Received: Alex Smith, Trent Richardson, James Starks, Alshon Jeffrey, Rob Gronkowski, '14 1st (guessing 1.08-1.12)

Core is currently

Luck, Smith, Big Ben

TRich, DMC, DWill

BMarsh, Harvin, Alshon, Torrey Smith, Denarius, Broyles, Hunter

Gronk, Fleener, Finley

Also trying to work out some deal with BMarsh for Cobb and play for a run next year.

I'm high on Alshon, even before the back to back games he put together as I acquired him in three leagues during the offseason, but this deal definitely hinges on whether TRich gets it going in Indy and Gronk not getting reinjured.
Got offered in this league

I give: Darren McFadden, Brandon Marshall

I received: Doug Martin, Randall Cobb
Might be my last trade unless someone offers something for DWill. Felt like I got a gift after I inquired about Mike Floyd. Got this offer.

I give: Alex Smith, Carolina DST

I receive: Michael Floyd, Denver DST

Note of "I need a backup QB and a DST.

Snap accept when I woke up.

 
Whole number of deals shaking out this week, two Sundays before the deadline.

12 Team Dynasty PPR, no contracts, QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE's 1.5 PPR

Gave: Austin Collie

Got: 2014 3rd rounder (early, if it matters...like, 3.02)

Gave: Fasano

Got: Andre Brown..............this was offered to me by the (4-3) Graham Owner who thought he was not gonna go, had no one else

Gave: Julio Jones

Got: Gio, Jordy, 2014 2nd (early), 2014 2nd (mid)

This represents an amended deal from earlier in the thread (Page 18) whereas I was previously due a 2014 1st...he had traded it away in August, totally forgotten by both of us.

Other trades, same league, not involved.

Team B gives: Ladarius Green, Jonathan Stewart, 2014 1st (mid to late)

Team M gives: DeMarco Murray

--------

Team B gives: Khiry Robinson, Emmanuel Sanders, 2015 2nd

Team G gives: MJD :confused:

-------

Team P gives: Randall Cobb

Team R gives: Decker

-------

Team M gives: Hillis, Jacobs, Boldin

Team P gives: Two 2014 2nd rounders (one early, one mid to late) and Lance Dunbar
Hillis/Jacobs with Brown and maybe Wilson due back??? For two 2014 1sts? Ouch.
2nd rounders. Boldin in the deal.

 
12 Team Dynasty NON-PPR, no contracts, QRRWWWT + 2 x Flex

Been offered Doug Martin for Trent Richardson. I have written off 2013, so am thinking this is a no-brainer to get out of T-Rich who looks pretty bad.

Any thoughts to the contrary? Is Martin in a bad offence for 2014 with T-Rich only getting better as he learns the system?

Or am I mad to not take this deal immediately!?

 
Daru99 said:
12 Team Dynasty NON-PPR, no contracts, QRRWWWT + 2 x Flex

Been offered Doug Martin for Trent Richardson. I have written off 2013, so am thinking this is a no-brainer to get out of T-Rich who looks pretty bad.

Any thoughts to the contrary? Is Martin in a bad offence for 2014 with T-Rich only getting better as he learns the system?

Or am I mad to not take this deal immediately!?
I'd do it but understand the hesitation. I'm one of apparently a few guys who still think Trent is worth owning. But Martin should be a top 5 guy when he returns. He's already shown to do what I think Trent can do.

 
Whole number of deals shaking out this week, two Sundays before the deadline.

12 Team Dynasty PPR, no contracts, QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE's 1.5 PPR

Gave: Austin Collie

Got: 2014 3rd rounder (early, if it matters...like, 3.02)

Gave: Fasano

Got: Andre Brown..............this was offered to me by the (4-3) Graham Owner who thought he was not gonna go, had no one else

Gave: Julio Jones

Got: Gio, Jordy, 2014 2nd (early), 2014 2nd (mid)

This represents an amended deal from earlier in the thread (Page 18) whereas I was previously due a 2014 1st...he had traded it away in August, totally forgotten by both of us.

Other trades, same league, not involved.

Team B gives: Ladarius Green, Jonathan Stewart, 2014 1st (mid to late)

Team M gives: DeMarco Murray

--------

Team B gives: Khiry Robinson, Emmanuel Sanders, 2015 2nd

Team G gives: MJD :confused:

-------

Team P gives: Randall Cobb

Team R gives: Decker

-------

Team M gives: Hillis, Jacobs, Boldin

Team P gives: Two 2014 2nd rounders (one early, one mid to late) and Lance Dunbar
While I understand the Decker and Cobb deal, the guy trading Cobb seems short sighted.

Fair deal for Julio.

 
12 team PPR dynasty, my team is currently 8-0 so gunning for a title.

I gave: Justin Hunter, 1st in 2014 (likely 1.11 or 1.12 pick)

I got: V-Jax

I like Hunter's upside but after Julio went down, felt starting V-Jax was a great improvement each week over Moore. Updated Roster:

Ryan, Dalton, Manuel, Palmer

Charles, Morris, Bernard, Stewart, Pead

Calvin, Garcon, V-Jax, D. Moore, Dobson, Hankerson [Julio and Broyles on IR]

Graham, Olsen, Cook

 
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12 team PPR dynasty, my team is currently 8-0 so gunning for a title.

I gave: Justin Hunter, 1st in 2014 (likely 1.11 or 1.12 pick)

I got: V-Jax

I like Hunter's upside but after Julio went down, felt starting V-Jax was a great improvement each week over Moore. Updated Roster:

Ryan, Dalton, Manuel, Palmer

Charles, Morris, Bernard, Stewart, Pead

Calvin, Garcon, V-Jax, D. Moore, Dobson, Hankerson [Julio and Broyles on IR]

Graham, Olsen, Cook
As you're in the hunt, I like it. I also like it for the other guy, assuming he's reloading a bit. Hunter will be a major target of mine this off-season, and the pick should net another Hunter-level prospect.

 
Team B gives: Khiry Robinson, Emmanuel Sanders, 2015 2nd

Team G gives: MJD :confused:
That's a great haul for MJD at this point.
I'm holding MJD, if this is all I can get. At this point, you're only holding in hopes for one year of RB1 production, when he leaves the Jags. But this haul isn't enough for me to give up on that, yet. MJD isn't what he once was, but, again, I'll gamble on him losing some weight and having one year left in a much better offense. Steven Jackson before the injury, for example.

 
12 team, non-PPR.

Two trades:

Team A gives Thomkins (not a contender)

Team B gives S Smith (contender)

Team A gives G Jennings and K Wright

Team B gives T Austin

 
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Thanks. Gives me a pretty darn good roster for this year's title run. Team currently 8-0 (was 3rd from last place just last year)

Brees, Ryan, Dalton, Palmer
Charles, Morris, Bernard, Stewart, Pead
Calvin, Garcon, V-Jax, D. Moore, Dobson, Hankerson [Julio & Broyles on IR]
Graham, Olsen, Cook
Panthers, Broncos

 
Team B gives: Khiry Robinson, Emmanuel Sanders, 2015 2nd

Team G gives: MJD :confused:
That's a great haul for MJD at this point.
I'm holding MJD, if this is all I can get. At this point, you're only holding in hopes for one year of RB1 production, when he leaves the Jags. But this haul isn't enough for me to give up on that, yet. MJD isn't what he once was, but, again, I'll gamble on him losing some weight and having one year left in a much better offense. Steven Jackson before the injury, for example.
He couldn't even lose weight in a contract year, I don't like his odds of finally deciding to get in shape.

 
12 team ppr QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex

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12 team ppr QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex

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That is moving Eifert for too cheap, and the 2nd trade, moving Brees and Hunter for too cheap IMO.

 
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He couldn't even lose weight in a contract year, I don't like his odds of finally deciding to get in shape.
I don't blame you. But for the haul in question, I'd take that bet. Hell, one year of low-end RB2 production, in addition to the extra roster spots, is worth more than I think the other side will amount to.

 
He couldn't even lose weight in a contract year, I don't like his odds of finally deciding to get in shape.
I don't blame you. But for the haul in question, I'd take that bet. Hell, one year of low-end RB2 production, in addition to the extra roster spots, is worth more than I think the other side will amount to.
He had a lis franc injury in 2012 and was in a walking boot until March. I think at some point he is worth the risk, and when you get into that late 2nd range, why not. I think there will be a market for him next offseason.
 
FFPC (1.5 PPR for TE, 1 PPR otherwise)

Eric Decker

2014 6th

2014 7th

for

Zach Ertz

2014 2nd

2014 2nd

Middle of the pack projections on both the 2nds.

 
1/2/3/1/1 PPR Dynasty league

Gave:

Geno Smith

Got:

Kenbrell Thompkins

Thaddeus Lewis

I have Aaron Rodgers at QB and I needed some depth at WR. Not sure it helps me a lot this year, but hoping Thompkins grows into more next year.

 

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