Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yeah these 5 1/2 year rental type trades usually backfire. Guy just gave up all his exit value.
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*** OFFICIAL *** In-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (1 Viewer)
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Andrew74
Footballguy
12 team, 0.5 PPR, start 1/2/3/1
I give: Vereen, Mathews, 2015 1st, 2014 2nd, 2014 3rd
I get: Forte
Making a push to win it this year, as injuries have hurt my team. Baring disaster, 2015 should be very late. 2nd is mid round; 3rd is high. Due to my roster and 2014 picks I still have, the 2nd and 3rd are low value to me.
I give: Vereen, Mathews, 2015 1st, 2014 2nd, 2014 3rd
I get: Forte
Making a push to win it this year, as injuries have hurt my team. Baring disaster, 2015 should be very late. 2nd is mid round; 3rd is high. Due to my roster and 2014 picks I still have, the 2nd and 3rd are low value to me.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
A bit too much for me to give up for Forte. I think Vereen+Mathews is fair, but perhaps I am high on Vereen. Hope it works out for you.
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Concept Coop
Footballguy
It wouldn't take much for me to move on from Cook, in a stardard format (not TE heavy). I would have hoped for an early-mid 2nd, but if this was the best I could get, I'd likely take it. I'm not a fan.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
My roster status would determine my stance on the trade. Woodhead is putting up very solid points right now, so if I needed the production, I'd move Blackmon for this. If I was a year out, I'd take a gamble on JB. Solid move, IMO.
doowain
Footballguy
I couldn't disagree more. Blackmon, although a guy with what appears to be a serious issue, is a young, elite level talent. I'd much rather gamble on that than a small passing down backup RB who will likely have a short shelf-life in fantasy. Regardless of the makeup of my roster.
cstu
Footballguy
I agree, this is an awful, short-sighted trade. If Blackmon is successful at rehab then his value shoots way up next year. Everyone loves a comeback story.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Why are we to assume that he has a short shelf-life? The guy I most compare him to - Darren Sporles - looks very fresh at 30 YO.
Woodhead is putting up RB1 numbers in PPR formats - "small passing down backup" or not. The value that provides is significant, and could certainly be the difference between playoffs and missing - potentially more than that.
Blackmon is a WR3 now, in my opinion. If I am competing, I'd move on from that for a few years of boderline RB1 production.
ETA: Woodhead is on pace for 98 receptions this year.
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Concept Coop
Footballguy
What do we put those odds at? He's in level 3 of the drug program, will be tested for the rest of his career (for a drop, if it was indeed booze), and has one more shot, or he's done for good.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
While I'll take the Blackmon side, people underplay Woodhead. The guy has elite level speed and led the NCAA in rushing yards his last year in school (albeit at a Division II school). The guy isn't just a gimmick, he can play.
That said - Blackmon is an elite level talent and a trade like this is worth the risk.
paytonsdaman
Footballguy
PPR, 1.5 PPR TE
2 RB / 3 WR / 1 TE / 2 FLEX (Max 1 Flex at a position)
Team 1 gave up:
Vereen, Shane NEP RB
Cameron, Jordan CLE TE
Team 2 gave up:
Jones, Julio ATL WR
Green, Ladarius SDC TE
ETA:
Team 1: 5-4, tied for lead in division
Team 2: 6-3, leading division by 3 games
2 RB / 3 WR / 1 TE / 2 FLEX (Max 1 Flex at a position)
Team 1 gave up:
Vereen, Shane NEP RB
Cameron, Jordan CLE TE
Team 2 gave up:
Jones, Julio ATL WR
Green, Ladarius SDC TE
ETA:
Team 1: 5-4, tied for lead in division
Team 2: 6-3, leading division by 3 games
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cstu
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Blackmon may never play again
I got ripped by some for trading Blackmon for Garcon when he got suspended for 4 games.
Risk is way too high with blackmon now.
cstu
Footballguy
They're low, but as good as Woodhead is playing right now he turns 29 in January. I'll take the 24 yo lottery ticket.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
It's a tough one. Woodhead is turning 29, but doesn't have much wear, makes his living mostly as a pass catcher, and has a fairly clean injury record I think. No reason to think he'll slow down anytime soon.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Tom Brady just traded in a 12 team PPR for 3rd and 6th round rookie picks.
Did not know he was on the market, or would have tried making a move for him.
Did not know he was on the market, or would have tried making a move for him.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
One last one right before the deadline. 12-team PPR, start 1/2/3/1 with 1 flex.
Team A gave: Tavon Austin, 2014 2nd
Team B gave: Knowshon Moreno, 2014 3rd
Team A is 5-4 and 4th in the league in scoring, but plays in the weaker conference and owns one of the first-round byes on tiebreakers. Team B is last in the league. Both picks are team B's, and will almost certainly be at the very top of the round.
Team A gave: Tavon Austin, 2014 2nd
Team B gave: Knowshon Moreno, 2014 3rd
Team A is 5-4 and 4th in the league in scoring, but plays in the weaker conference and owns one of the first-round byes on tiebreakers. Team B is last in the league. Both picks are team B's, and will almost certainly be at the very top of the round.
Spin
Footballguy
10 team ppr start 1 qb / 2 rb / 3 wr / 1 te / 1 flex(any) / idp
Team A trades:
Hakeem Nicks (4 years)
Team B trades:
2014 1st - Likely mid to late
Team A is stacked at wr, and in first place in his division, was the likely favorite to win it all but who knows how Rodgers' injury shakes out.
Team B is 2 - 7, last in points for, and had 3 2014 1sts (still owns his own).
Team A trades:
Hakeem Nicks (4 years)
Team B trades:
2014 1st - Likely mid to late
Team A is stacked at wr, and in first place in his division, was the likely favorite to win it all but who knows how Rodgers' injury shakes out.
Team B is 2 - 7, last in points for, and had 3 2014 1sts (still owns his own).
Spike
Footballguy
r0llin_game
Footballguy
12 team ppr QRRWWTKFF
Team A gives: Knowshon Moreno
Team B gives: Cordarelle Patterson
Team A is rebuilding and his WR core isn't anything special right now.
Team B is obviously competing. Rebuilt and made the title game after a lot of luck and the other semi game having the top two teams in the league play one another.
12 team ppr QRRWWTKF
I gave: Russell Wilson, Zac Stacy, Mike James
I received: Aaron Rodgers, Arian Foster, Andre Ellington
Team that traded with me is a title contender, didn't have anyone behind Rodgers that was starting, and trying to sell off Arian for as much as he can get.
I've ran really bad with matchups along with injuries. I'm now probably going to sell Arian for what I can get and if I don't find a satisfactory offer, then I'll be fine rolling with him next year.
My core:
Rodgers
Foster/Bush/Miller/DMC/Ellington
Julio/Cobb/Harvin/Alshon
Gronk
Two top five picks.
Team A gives: Knowshon Moreno
Team B gives: Cordarelle Patterson
Team A is rebuilding and his WR core isn't anything special right now.
Team B is obviously competing. Rebuilt and made the title game after a lot of luck and the other semi game having the top two teams in the league play one another.
12 team ppr QRRWWTKF
I gave: Russell Wilson, Zac Stacy, Mike James
I received: Aaron Rodgers, Arian Foster, Andre Ellington
Team that traded with me is a title contender, didn't have anyone behind Rodgers that was starting, and trying to sell off Arian for as much as he can get.
I've ran really bad with matchups along with injuries. I'm now probably going to sell Arian for what I can get and if I don't find a satisfactory offer, then I'll be fine rolling with him next year.
My core:
Rodgers
Foster/Bush/Miller/DMC/Ellington
Julio/Cobb/Harvin/Alshon
Gronk
Two top five picks.
Casting Couch
Footballguy
Blackmon will play again, and at an elite level, imo. Superb Buy Low candidate.bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Casting Couch
Footballguy
He has nothing left to prove ?
He has a playoff record of 9-11, and one Super Bowl in 15 years.
Seems like he has a lot yet to prove, unless you all you care about are stats.
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cstu
Footballguy
He's won a SB, owns a ton of statistical records and is considered one of the best QB's of all-time. While another SB with his second team would be a great feather to stick in his cap, going through another grueling NFL season to attempt it might not be worth it for him.
Yeah, this just boils down to us disagreeing heavily on Blackmon. I'm not a Torrey Smith fan, but he's still a dynasty WR2, which is a lot more than I can say for Justin Blackmon right now.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
14 team PPR.
Gave:
Marlon Brown
Dexter McCluster
Terrelle Pryor
2014 2nd
2014 5th
2014 7th
2014 7th
Got:
Christine Michael
Mark Ingram
Charles Johnson
Gave:
Marlon Brown
Dexter McCluster
Terrelle Pryor
2014 2nd
2014 5th
2014 7th
2014 7th
Got:
Christine Michael
Mark Ingram
Charles Johnson
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
SieteCinco
Footballguy
12 Team 1PPR 2QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-1Flex
Team A Gave - Teddy Bridgewater, Hakeem Nicks, Kenbrell Thompkins, 2014 3rd
Team B Gave - Ryan Tannehill, Jonathan Stewart, Quinton Patton, 2014 2nd
Team A is contending, just lost Aaron Rodgers/Sam Bradford/EJ Manuel, and still hasn't gotten off the Stewart bandwagon (me).
Team B is in last looking towards the future and wasn't a fan of Tannehill but is a huge Hakeem Nicks supporter. Should have the 1.01 (1.02 at worst with the bracket set up) AND already will already have Teddy Bridgewater/Marqise Lee rostered due to the devy/rookie drafts (will also get Cobb/Crabtree back so he's a worst to first candidate in 2014)
Team A Gave - Teddy Bridgewater, Hakeem Nicks, Kenbrell Thompkins, 2014 3rd
Team B Gave - Ryan Tannehill, Jonathan Stewart, Quinton Patton, 2014 2nd
Team A is contending, just lost Aaron Rodgers/Sam Bradford/EJ Manuel, and still hasn't gotten off the Stewart bandwagon (me).
Team B is in last looking towards the future and wasn't a fan of Tannehill but is a huge Hakeem Nicks supporter. Should have the 1.01 (1.02 at worst with the bracket set up) AND already will already have Teddy Bridgewater/Marqise Lee rostered due to the devy/rookie drafts (will also get Cobb/Crabtree back so he's a worst to first candidate in 2014)
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Clear win for the Bridgewater/Nicks side
cstu
Footballguy
Gave:
Foster (4-year)
Blackmon (3-year)
Christine Michael (2-year)
Got:
Larry Fitzgerald (3-years)
Lamar Miller (3-years)
Ryan Mathews (3-years)
Hear me through this, I'm sitting at 6 - 3. Foster got me a big 'zero' last week. Texans season is a bust. He sees Doctors today?
The other guy is 1-8 and just took over the team. He probably doesn't care how,well Foster produces.
Blackmon is suspended. Can't play, Lamar Miller can help me score now. The O-line situation blows, but I think it hurts Tannehil more.
Christine Michael is talented but only on a 2-year deal. He's not going to see significant carries next year, either.
Foster (4-year)
Blackmon (3-year)
Christine Michael (2-year)
Got:
Larry Fitzgerald (3-years)
Lamar Miller (3-years)
Ryan Mathews (3-years)
Hear me through this, I'm sitting at 6 - 3. Foster got me a big 'zero' last week. Texans season is a bust. He sees Doctors today?
The other guy is 1-8 and just took over the team. He probably doesn't care how,well Foster produces.
Blackmon is suspended. Can't play, Lamar Miller can help me score now. The O-line situation blows, but I think it hurts Tannehil more.
Christine Michael is talented but only on a 2-year deal. He's not going to see significant carries next year, either.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
In a vacuum, it would be a pretty tough decision for me, but I'm a huge Michael fan and my WR corps consists of: Dez, Marshall, Harvin, Shorts, White. Which is pretty strong in a 14 teamer. So I went for the RB upside, as there I don't have any long-term prospects: Chris Johnson, Danny Woodhead, Fred Jackson, MJD.
FUBAR
Footballguy
I like Tannehill quite a bit and Patton has potential but would take nicks and Tompkins
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
After making a couple of trades it worked out to be
Gronk
2nd 2014
for
Jeffery
Blackmon
1st 2014
3rd 2014
.
Gronk
2nd 2014
for
Jeffery
Blackmon
1st 2014
3rd 2014
.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Have to agree. In a start 2 QB league, I'd trade that for Teddy alone. I like Tannehill more as an NFL prospect than a fantasy prospect.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Standard PPR league?
I'd take Gronk without much thought, especially if that pick isn't top 3. But there is potential on the others side, so it could work out.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
12 team PPR 1/2/3/1 + flex
Emmanuel Sanders and a 2nd (late)
FOR
Philip Rivers and a 3rd (also late)
I own Rodgers, am 7-2 (after a close loss d/t Rodgers getting hurt this week), and had only the Minnesota mess behind him.
Emmanuel Sanders and a 2nd (late)
FOR
Philip Rivers and a 3rd (also late)
I own Rodgers, am 7-2 (after a close loss d/t Rodgers getting hurt this week), and had only the Minnesota mess behind him.
Woof. Assuming random 1sts (as opposed to, say, guaranteed top-4 picks), you might well have to add two more 1st rounders to the Jeffery/Blackmon side to get me to move Gronk for that.
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Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Gronk is 24 man, less than a year older than both Blackmon and Jeffrey. He's the exact guy that you build around.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Even if you assume Gronk is a huge injury risk he's still a huge payout lottery ticket which is equally appealing to a rebuilder.
10 team. Non-PPR
Team A Trades:
Kendall Wright
Giovani Bernard
Team B Trades:
EJ Manuel
Montee Ball
Seems like a win for the Wright/Bernard team currently.
Team A Trades:
Andy Dalton
Team B Trades:
2nd round pick 2014 (most likely pick ends up between #17-#20)
Team B had Schaub as his only QB behind Luck.
Team A Trades:
Kendall Wright
Giovani Bernard
Team B Trades:
EJ Manuel
Montee Ball
Seems like a win for the Wright/Bernard team currently.
Team A Trades:
Andy Dalton
Team B Trades:
2nd round pick 2014 (most likely pick ends up between #17-#20)
Team B had Schaub as his only QB behind Luck.
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