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Saw this on a Facebook wrestling group discussion site.

The Bloodline storyline has been going on for over two years now. It dominates WWE's main event and tag team divisions. It's a storyline that divides opinions; most fans love it and some hate it.
How should the storyline end? How should The Bloodline fall; who to? Whos going to dethrone The Head of the Table?

My Answer:
There's really no one now. They had their chance at Castle to put the title on Drew and failed. I just hope they don't have him loose it to some part time person. The Tag Titles have zero competition outside maybe Imperium or Pete Dunn and Rich Holland. Maybe Gallows and Anderson eventually or bring up Pretty Deadly, Briggs and Jensen or Gallus?

I like the Storyline but the only reason they are doing it is because Roman had WWE by the proverbial balls. He threatened not to comeback when COVID hit considering the lackluster way Vince was handling it the same way as his buddy Trump was. At the time Jon Moxley was staying at his house when AEW was doing their shows at Dailey's and Roman let him stay there because he knew AEW's protocol for Covid was really good.

After the NXT Covid outbreak when Vince allowed some friends and family of wrestlers in and someone was infected got half the roster infected The USO's threatened to not wrestle either. At the time Moxley was talking to Roman and RR was frustrated about no heel run in WWE. I'm friends with someone close to The USOs and a former WWE employee part time was a coworker of mine and Roman and family would joke about him never turning heel and he's the new Cena and he was frustrated.

Moxley told TK and AEW the situation. Through Mox and Cody AEW offered Roman if he could get out of his WWE contract they'd sign him and book him as a top heel in AEW. The USO's were prepared to also dispute their contracts to leave too and go with Roman to AEW. When Vince heard about Roman not wrestling again and threatening legal he knew he had to keep Roman and the USOs and prevent them from going to AEW or somewhere else. So Vince bent over cheeks spread and gave in. Roman wanted to be a top Heel with a faction in his family and specifically requested to have Paul Heyman.

From what I remember no specifics given but I had heard Roman was going to argue terminating contract based on Unsafe working conditions and negeliance by his employer given he's immune Compromise from Covid. I don't know how far any of the legal got but the fact he was gonna threaten it leads me to believe he had a really good case and probably would've won.

Roman Pulled a Brock Lesnar and this is why he isn't working many non TV Wrestling dates with WWE anymore either. Vince also has a ton of respect for the Anoa'i Family and it's why Nia Wasn't released after the Becky Lynch Incident during Her The Man run. He also didn't want to upset Daddy Rikishi or The Rock. Any other wrestler Vince would've just let them sit at home.
 
Per Meltzer Charlotte is expected back soon. Andrade on a recent interview said Ashley was dealing with some personal issues but wouldn't get into specifics. There's speculation she's had a miscarriage or something else similar to Naomi had when she was absent from WWE a few yrs ago.

WON: The Hangman Page promo on Dynamite talking about his former friends disappearing (Young Bucks & Kenny Omega almost for sure), AEW did allow the reference but not the names to be spoken.
 
The "New Three Muskateers" AKA Shibata, Nakamura and Tanahashi were all at Antonio Inoki's Wake. The 3 were all trained by Inoki and dub the next big things in Wrestling in Japan during the early parts of their career. This would explain partial Nakamura absent from WWE programming as he's attending Inoki's services
 
NXT’s Arianna Grace will be out of action for an undisclosed amount of time. Although she was not specific about what her injury exactly was, she will require surgery and seemed to indicate on her official Twitter, it might be a very long recovery. Grace, 28 who’s real name is Bianca Carelli, is the daughter former WWE Superstar Santino Marella.
 
Jon Moxley signing a new five-year deal with AEW, was something he wanted to do, so that nobody would speculate that he was returning to WWE, or that AEW was in a bidding war over his services. Moxley reportedly didn’t want to sign the deal in the beginning, and freelance, but felt like people would think he was going back to WWE, if the word ever got out he was no longer under an AEW contract. Locking himself up with Khan and company, ended any potential rumors or news breaking in the future.
 
The Kingdom So much for all that speculation of WWE bound. A lot of these sites just throwing **** up on a wall hoping it sticks now.
 
Shawn Spears is back!!!!!!!!! With WarJoe and FTR
And they have him coming out with the "10" gimmick, which makes me ask yet again why in the world did they let the Dark Order 10 use that gimmick in ring when Spears is also currently in the promotion?? AEW does some good stuff, but so many things are not thought out properly.
Before the Sammy-Andrade thing happened, the match between 10 and Andrade was mask vs career (or however they phrased it) and obviously Andrade was going to win, which mean 10 was going to lose his mask and probably just start going by Vance or some other rebranding. So having Spears come out a week later with his Perfect 10 gimmick, there would not have had any overlap.
Fantastic. Except the Andrade match didn't happen.

So what you're saying is that TK books like much of his indy wrestlers wrestle, once something goes askew with a spot they dreamed up in the back, they just push forward anyway with the same spot, no matter how ridiculous it looks :lmao:

Vance's gimmick is really no where close to Shawn's gimmick though. Also most of Dark Order is more of a comedy act these days then anything else. It's why they took Anna Jay out of it and I think eventually they'll be moving Hangman from them if The Elite ever come back
Dude. Vance was turning to the crowd and getting them to do the "10" chant. With Spears working in the promotion no less. Now I assume that Spears ok'd it and told him to go ahead and do it. Did they ever do a mini story arc or hell just a one off to kayfabe acknowledge that it used to be Spear's gimmick and it was getting passed on to Vance? **** no because TK is a dipshit money mark booker. I don't know what else to say. Glad to get that off my chest :lmao:
 
A lot of rumors TK announcing ROh Streaming deal imminently according to Alvarez.

NJPW put Royal Quest II up on their streaming service where FTR vs Aussie Open happened in London. I've yet to watch it.

“We’ll have great news soon about Ring of Honor weekly shows. Our goal is to have one more great pay-per-view for Ring of Honor in 2022 and then follow that up with a weekly show in 2023.”
- Tony Khan on ROH going forward
 
According to Bryan Alvarez of Wrestling Observer Live, WWE is determined to have NXT beat AEW in the ratings tonight, with a special live “Dynamite” going head to head with the black and yellow brand.
According to a source, WWE officials have said AEW beating NXT later tonight would be “unaccaeptable”

Alvarez tweeted: “Huge promotion for NXT on Raw. They're determined to beat AEW in the ratings.”
 
“Roman and I have never really been that close.
He used to come around my house a lot and play with my brothers, because they were around the same age. I was just a kid at the time, so, I don’t really remember much honestly, just him being there.
When I made my debut at ’Clash at the Castle’, it was legitimately the first time I had seen him in 20 years.”

- Solo Sikoa (via Cheap Heat)
 
The OC vs. Judgment Day is booked for Crown Jewel.
But uh... Karl Anderson is slated to face Hikuleo that same day for the NEVER Openweight Championship in Osaka
 
AEW talent and staff were told this past week that the company is set to produce a documentary show that will focus on the behind-the-scenes aspect of a group of wrestlers in the promotion.
WBD will air the show sometime in 2023!
 
Humberto Garza Sr. has passed away at the age of 85.
CMLL shared the news in a tweet on October 16. Garza Sr. was the grandfather of WWE Superstars Angel and Humberto, collectively known as Los Lotharios. He previously starred in the 50s, 60s and early 70s, especially in Monterre, and he competed for the EMLL. Garza Sr. was a prominent figure in the Mexican wrestling scene
 
WWE cancels Day 1 PLE

Per Bryan Alvarez, WWE will make major changes to PPV/PLE events in 2023. Likely more international shows, less gimmick shows.
 
Saw this on a Facebook wrestling group discussion site.

The Bloodline storyline has been going on for over two years now. It dominates WWE's main event and tag team divisions. It's a storyline that divides opinions; most fans love it and some hate it.
How should the storyline end? How should The Bloodline fall; who to? Whos going to dethrone The Head of the Table?

My Answer:
There's really no one now. They had their chance at Castle to put the title on Drew and failed. I just hope they don't have him loose it to some part time person. The Tag Titles have zero competition outside maybe Imperium or Pete Dunn and Rich Holland. Maybe Gallows and Anderson eventually or bring up Pretty Deadly, Briggs and Jensen or Gallus?

I like the Storyline but the only reason they are doing it is because Roman had WWE by the proverbial balls. He threatened not to comeback when COVID hit considering the lackluster way Vince was handling it the same way as his buddy Trump was. At the time Jon Moxley was staying at his house when AEW was doing their shows at Dailey's and Roman let him stay there because he knew AEW's protocol for Covid was really good.

After the NXT Covid outbreak when Vince allowed some friends and family of wrestlers in and someone was infected got half the roster infected The USO's threatened to not wrestle either. At the time Moxley was talking to Roman and RR was frustrated about no heel run in WWE. I'm friends with someone close to The USOs and a former WWE employee part time was a coworker of mine and Roman and family would joke about him never turning heel and he's the new Cena and he was frustrated.

Moxley told TK and AEW the situation. Through Mox and Cody AEW offered Roman if he could get out of his WWE contract they'd sign him and book him as a top heel in AEW. The USO's were prepared to also dispute their contracts to leave too and go with Roman to AEW. When Vince heard about Roman not wrestling again and threatening legal he knew he had to keep Roman and the USOs and prevent them from going to AEW or somewhere else. So Vince bent over cheeks spread and gave in. Roman wanted to be a top Heel with a faction in his family and specifically requested to have Paul Heyman.

From what I remember no specifics given but I had heard Roman was going to argue terminating contract based on Unsafe working conditions and negeliance by his employer given he's immune Compromise from Covid. I don't know how far any of the legal got but the fact he was gonna threaten it leads me to believe he had a really good case and probably would've won.

Roman Pulled a Brock Lesnar and this is why he isn't working many non TV Wrestling dates with WWE anymore either. Vince also has a ton of respect for the Anoa'i Family and it's why Nia Wasn't released after the Becky Lynch Incident during Her The Man run. He also didn't want to upset Daddy Rikishi or The Rock. Any other wrestler Vince would've just let them sit at home.

Based on the FF Raw I watched last week, aren't they teasing Jey rebelling/being ostracized, breaking the Tag Team, and maybe taking on the fam? That was the vibe I was getting.
 
Adam Page taken to Clevland medical after a nasty bump from a clothesline. Page sold the CLotheline too well and landed badly on his head may have knocked himself out. Talked to someone at the event who I know from the wrestling community and his wife works at the medical center Page was taken too and said it legit wasn't a work. AEW improvised by teasing a MJF cash in as Mox first hoped Page was ok asking for Prayers and saying some good things. At first thought it was a work given the possible Jay White rumors but unfortunately this wasn't. Taz was pretty distraught about it.

This wasn't one of those in ring moves. It was a typical Mox Gorilla Lariat. Unfortunately Page sold it tool well and landed badly on his head. To describe it best he HBK oversold. All these years and I wondered how HBK didn't hurthimself from over selling moves
 
Saw this on a Facebook wrestling group discussion site.

The Bloodline storyline has been going on for over two years now. It dominates WWE's main event and tag team divisions. It's a storyline that divides opinions; most fans love it and some hate it.
How should the storyline end? How should The Bloodline fall; who to? Whos going to dethrone The Head of the Table?

My Answer:
There's really no one now. They had their chance at Castle to put the title on Drew and failed. I just hope they don't have him loose it to some part time person. The Tag Titles have zero competition outside maybe Imperium or Pete Dunn and Rich Holland. Maybe Gallows and Anderson eventually or bring up Pretty Deadly, Briggs and Jensen or Gallus?

I like the Storyline but the only reason they are doing it is because Roman had WWE by the proverbial balls. He threatened not to comeback when COVID hit considering the lackluster way Vince was handling it the same way as his buddy Trump was. At the time Jon Moxley was staying at his house when AEW was doing their shows at Dailey's and Roman let him stay there because he knew AEW's protocol for Covid was really good.

After the NXT Covid outbreak when Vince allowed some friends and family of wrestlers in and someone was infected got half the roster infected The USO's threatened to not wrestle either. At the time Moxley was talking to Roman and RR was frustrated about no heel run in WWE. I'm friends with someone close to The USOs and a former WWE employee part time was a coworker of mine and Roman and family would joke about him never turning heel and he's the new Cena and he was frustrated.

Moxley told TK and AEW the situation. Through Mox and Cody AEW offered Roman if he could get out of his WWE contract they'd sign him and book him as a top heel in AEW. The USO's were prepared to also dispute their contracts to leave too and go with Roman to AEW. When Vince heard about Roman not wrestling again and threatening legal he knew he had to keep Roman and the USOs and prevent them from going to AEW or somewhere else. So Vince bent over cheeks spread and gave in. Roman wanted to be a top Heel with a faction in his family and specifically requested to have Paul Heyman.

From what I remember no specifics given but I had heard Roman was going to argue terminating contract based on Unsafe working conditions and negeliance by his employer given he's immune Compromise from Covid. I don't know how far any of the legal got but the fact he was gonna threaten it leads me to believe he had a really good case and probably would've won.

Roman Pulled a Brock Lesnar and this is why he isn't working many non TV Wrestling dates with WWE anymore either. Vince also has a ton of respect for the Anoa'i Family and it's why Nia Wasn't released after the Becky Lynch Incident during Her The Man run. He also didn't want to upset Daddy Rikishi or The Rock. Any other wrestler Vince would've just let them sit at home.

Based on the FF Raw I watched last week, aren't they teasing Jey rebelling/being ostracized, breaking the Tag Team, and maybe taking on the fam? That was the vibe I was getting.

I doubt they are breaking them up. Eventually I think the storyline has Zayn F Up to the point Roman can't defend him and Jey gets to tell everyone he was right. The dumbest thing to do would break up The USOs. They are the best tag team WWE has talent wise.
 
Adam Page taken to Clevland medical after a nasty bump from a clothesline. Page sold the CLotheline too well and landed badly on his head may have knocked himself out. Talked to someone at the event who I know from the wrestling community and his wife works at the medical center Page was taken too and said it legit wasn't a work. AEW improvised by teasing a MJF cash in as Mox first hoped Page was ok asking for Prayers and saying some good things. At first thought it was a work given the possible Jay White rumors but unfortunately this wasn't. Taz was pretty distraught about it.

This wasn't one of those in ring moves. It was a typical Mox Gorilla Lariat. Unfortunately Page sold it tool well and landed badly on his head. To describe it best he HBK oversold. All these years and I wondered how HBK didn't hurthimself from over selling moves
Cincinnati…the other Cleveland.
 
The MJF/Regal promo is worth searching out if you haven't seen it. Probably best promo segment of the year.

Then AEW messes up and follows it up with a poor pre-taped Wheeler Yuta promo against Bryan Danielson.
 
Brad Shepherd apparently outed one of Vince’s SA victims. But he also went after Jessi the Buckeye, and she wrecked him by sending the clip of him making fun of her needing an osteomy bag to his wife and mother. As a result, he quit Twitter.

Now @DJackson10 has all of wrestling Twitter with him in being shielded from his idiocy.
 
Brad Shepherd apparently outed one of Vince’s SA victims. But he also went after Jessi the Buckeye, and she wrecked him by sending the clip of him making fun of her needing an osteomy bag to his wife and mother. As a result, he quit Twitter.

Now @DJackson10 has all of wrestling Twitter with him in being shielded from his idiocy.

Couldn't have happened to a better human. he is such garbage. I only followed him because he was great at getting the HOF selections out faster than anyone and was usually right. He also contacted me DM do to a Ryback story and asked how I knew it. I told him about my former coworker who use to work in WWE part time when they were in town and we started talking. After awhile I saw who he was. There were a few times I thought some of the hate wasn't warranted though and people just trolling him.

Either way a few yrs ago he stopped doing wrestling full time and started righting for some right wing media outlet in DC. I also noticed more and more the misogyny and toxic masculinity from this clown when it came to women's wrestling. What this dude did is wrong and it looks like no one really reported the name like he did or really reported it. That right there shows how desperate this guy is. The sad thing is sites like Ringside News and others who employed this guys and knew what they were getting, acting like victims and other things to save face.
 
Brad Shepherd apparently outed one of Vince’s SA victims. But he also went after Jessi the Buckeye, and she wrecked him by sending the clip of him making fun of her needing an osteomy bag to his wife and mother. As a result, he quit Twitter.

Now @DJackson10 has all of wrestling Twitter with him in being shielded from his idiocy.

He literally made a ****ing final episode podcast and put a whole thank you on the Tweeter verse. Dude no one cares nor knows much about you. Good riddance. Now if we could make the fake liberal Jim Cornette disappear from the wrestling community
 
Brad Shepherd apparently outed one of Vince’s SA victims. But he also went after Jessi the Buckeye, and she wrecked him by sending the clip of him making fun of her needing an osteomy bag to his wife and mother. As a result, he quit Twitter.

Now @DJackson10 has all of wrestling Twitter with him in being shielded from his idiocy.
I thought Vince just had extra marital affairs. Hadn't heard of any assault claims.
 
A lot of rumors TK announcing ROh Streaming deal imminently according to Alvarez.
“We’ll have great news soon about Ring of Honor weekly shows. Our goal is to have one more great pay-per-view for Ring of Honor in 2022 and then follow that up with a weekly show in 2023.”
- Tony Khan on ROH going forward
Good get it off AEW tv. It's too much having both intermingling.

Although the Jericho stuff is awesome right now.
 
Brad Shepherd apparently outed one of Vince’s SA victims. But he also went after Jessi the Buckeye, and she wrecked him by sending the clip of him making fun of her needing an osteomy bag to his wife and mother. As a result, he quit Twitter.

Now @DJackson10 has all of wrestling Twitter with him in being shielded from his idiocy.
I thought Vince just had extra marital affairs. Hadn't heard of any assault claims.

Nope there's reports it was sexual assault and he and Lauranitis pressured it on the girls. Paul London told a story about them harassing Ashley Massaro.
 
Nice little PLE over the weekend with Halloween Havoc. The standout matches IMO were the Ladder Match, Perez vs. Jade (crazy stupid that these women are just 20 and 21 and crushing it), and the Triple Threat Main Event. And I could watch Mandy Rose read the phonebook.

While it looks like Perez is lining up to take Mandy Rose's title, Bron Breakker is getting a little bit into that Roman Reigns territory of "who is going to actually beat this guy?" This could have been an easy way where he doesn't eat a pin and both other guys are studs that deserve a title run. Regardless it was a great match and Bron held his own with two more seasoned veterans.
 
Simone Johnson debuted on NXT last night as Ava Raine and joined Jon Gacy/Grizzed Young Veterans' group The Schism.

I like the idea of starting her own thing and not leaning into "4th generation", "Samoa Dynasty", etc. You know that is what the Old Man would have had her doing. Tassles and all.
 
Nice little PLE over the weekend with Halloween Havoc. The standout matches IMO were the Ladder Match, Perez vs. Jade (crazy stupid that these women are just 20 and 21 and crushing it), and the Triple Threat Main Event. And I could watch Mandy Rose read the phonebook.

While it looks like Perez is lining up to take Mandy Rose's title, Bron Breakker is getting a little bit into that Roman Reigns territory of "who is going to actually beat this guy?" This could have been an easy way where he doesn't eat a pin and both other guys are studs that deserve a title run. Regardless it was a great match and Bron held his own with two more seasoned veterans.

Probably their best network special since switching to Cable TV that was on Peacock NXT wise. Shotzi was a perfect host.
 
WWE is doing away with the Hell In a Cell PLE. Talks are that Hunter wants to go back to using HIAC as an end to a blood feud. Look for WWE to stop the Gimmicky PLE and go forward with traditional stuff. WWE is also cutting back on PLEs as well next year and moving forward.
 
Larry the Dog Allegedly Injured During Brawl After All Out.
Wrestling Inc. reached out to CM Punk's camp after reports of the Elite's return became public.
They've been told that AEW has not reached out to Punk since the incident following the All Out media scrum, in which Punk and his friend and trainer, Ace Steel, reportedly got into a backstage brawl with AEW EVPs Kenny Omega and The Young Bucks
Sources indicate that after the brawl, Punk was asked to stay quiet, and agreed to do so. From the perspective of Punk's camp, the scrum itself — which became the talk of the wrestling world due to Punk's comments on Colt Cabana, "Hangman" Adam Page, and The Elite — didn't seem like a big deal, and only escalated once Punk's locker room door was "kicked in" and accidentally hit Punk's dog, Larry, in the face.
At a pre-scheduled veterinarian appointment a few days later, Punk was informed that two of Larry's teeth had been knocked loose and had to be removed.
Wrestling Inc. has been told that Punk felt threatened and reacted in a legal way under Illinois' Castle Doctrine laws, which allow for the use of force in defense of a person in their dwelling. At this time, there is no litigation against Punk on behalf of anyone involved. It was also relayed to us that Steel's wife, Lucy, was in the room during the incident, but has not been interviewed as part of the internal investigation into the matter.

Punk's camp also told Wrestling Inc. that following "Hangman" Adam Page's comments on a May episode of "AEW Dynamite" alluding to backstage concerns about Punk, there was distrust on Punk's end going into his AEW World Championship match with Page at Double or Nothing 2022, and that Punk was concerned that the pre-determined match would break down into a real physical fight
 
Love the guy but man I'm getting tired of seeing Jericho every week. His matches should be more special. Too much Mox perhaps as well. They have such a deep, great roster. They hardly use most of it.
 
Larry the Dog Allegedly Injured During Brawl After All Out.
Wrestling Inc. reached out to CM Punk's camp after reports of the Elite's return became public.
They've been told that AEW has not reached out to Punk since the incident following the All Out media scrum, in which Punk and his friend and trainer, Ace Steel, reportedly got into a backstage brawl with AEW EVPs Kenny Omega and The Young Bucks
Sources indicate that after the brawl, Punk was asked to stay quiet, and agreed to do so. From the perspective of Punk's camp, the scrum itself — which became the talk of the wrestling world due to Punk's comments on Colt Cabana, "Hangman" Adam Page, and The Elite — didn't seem like a big deal, and only escalated once Punk's locker room door was "kicked in" and accidentally hit Punk's dog, Larry, in the face.
At a pre-scheduled veterinarian appointment a few days later, Punk was informed that two of Larry's teeth had been knocked loose and had to be removed.
Wrestling Inc. has been told that Punk felt threatened and reacted in a legal way under Illinois' Castle Doctrine laws, which allow for the use of force in defense of a person in their dwelling. At this time, there is no litigation against Punk on behalf of anyone involved. It was also relayed to us that Steel's wife, Lucy, was in the room during the incident, but has not been interviewed as part of the internal investigation into the matter.

Punk's camp also told Wrestling Inc. that following "Hangman" Adam Page's comments on a May episode of "AEW Dynamite" alluding to backstage concerns about Punk, there was distrust on Punk's end going into his AEW World Championship match with Page at Double or Nothing 2022, and that Punk was concerned that the pre-determined match would break down into a real physical fight

Meltzer toda retracted this saying he hadn't heard this. Spoke to a few people myself who said it sounds like Punks lawyer is trying to make it more of Punk the Victim. Punk has yet from their understanding shown medical records of his dog receiving treatment of any kind that would detail any type of mouth injury.
 
Nice teaser about The Elite coming back soon.

Alvarez said Kenny The Bucks and Don were backstage last night. Meltzer said their return could be in a matter of next week. From what Alvarez has heard they were welcomed back with open arms by the roster.

1. When my bosses come back from vacation, I try and act like I'm happy to see them.
2. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Sounds like Punk alienated most of the locker room, so everyone is going to root for the other side.
 
Nice teaser about The Elite coming back soon.

Alvarez said Kenny The Bucks and Don were backstage last night. Meltzer said their return could be in a matter of next week. From what Alvarez has heard they were welcomed back with open arms by the roster.

1. When my bosses come back from vacation, I try and act like I'm happy to see them.
2. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Sounds like Punk alienated most of the locker room, so everyone is going to root for the other side.

It sounds like people liked having Punk around at first and then he showed his true colors. He became what he hated acting like he was better than everyone. A few basically thought Punk had changed but he didn't.
 
Holy ****!!!! Night before Rumble 44th st Main Event Bullet Club ELP, Juice and Jay White with Team filthy vs Amazing Red Homicide, Eddie Kingston Shoota Umena and Death Ryder Jon Moxley!!!!! And Okada and Yoh!!!!!!! 6 Man elimination NJPW Rules style
 

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