Sebowski said:
I'm a metalhead that grew up in the 80's and missed out on the real punk scene. I really wish I would have had those early influences but I was into later stuff like Bad Brains, Suicidal, SOD. I loved Carnivore (Pete Steele before Type O ) and think they don't get enough attention for their crossover. Another favorite was Leeway. I big song that gave a boost to punk with metalheads was when Megadeth did Anarchy.
I thought the most interesting part of the RocknRoll Hall of Fame museum was the punk section.
Please elaborate on this. I've been wanting to visit the RnR HOF for a long time, but I don't seem to get to Cleveland very often. I was under the assumption that there would not be much there regarding punk. What sort of stuff do they have?
Also, as an aside,
I've been wondering if there are any punk acts in the HOF. And regardless of the answer, we could speculate on which, if any, might deserve to be there.
I nominate NOFX.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xniqEA6ZPuU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqsA-lQxjh4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSb3nG4oTNQ
The Ramones, The Clash, The Stooges, and the Sex Pistols are bands that I'm pretty sure are in. And then I subsequently Googled and they are all indeed inducted.
How many nominees do we get? What is the criteria? Two that immediately come to mind are The Dead Boys and The Damned. The Buzzcocks, too, of course. And Wire, if they're considered punk.
I'll let others nominate after those.
Here's a cool article with some proto-punk bands that haven't made it, including several of my favorites (Dolls, MC5)
https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/yahoo-music/20-artists-missing-rock-roll-hall-fame-185814255.html
I ####### love the Dead Boys, but hard to call anyone HOF with only 2 albums. Stiv is the perfect punk front man. Speaking of perfect pieces of bands, this has a strong case:
Vocals: Stiv
Guitar: Johnny Thunders
Bass: Dee Dee Ramone
Turns out these guys did an album together. Stiv Batoirs: Last Race. I found out about it in HS and spent years trying to track it down. The internet finally started earning it's keep and I found a French record label that was selling it. I wrote them an email and they had me send them a money order for the CD. I was so freaking stoked. A couple months later it came it the mail. Nothing could have lived up to the build up I had for this album, and this was no exception. There's some good stuff on there including better recorded version of Dee Dee's Poison Heart, bt overall it is way less than the some of there parts.
Yeah, I more go for impact than longevity, but that's for everyone else to decide. I found Young, Loud, and Snotty back in '93, back when I was staying at my brother's in San Diego -- they had this Taang! record store on Mission Beach (?) I think. Anyway, I was way into punk, and it has stuck with me ever since. Catch me on a weird night, and I'll nominate a weirdly personal and non-consensus band fetish of mine. I still think the New Bomb Turks's first album was one of the greatest in punk history, which never sits right with most proper punks. Same with the Crumbs's s/t on Lookout! in '97, which is all but dead and completely out of print. I don't think anybody loves that album more than I do. But then again, they wear their influences on their sleeve with songs like "Dead Boys Too," so there's that.
As for the Batoirs, that is a great, great band line-up. Sadly, I'm not surprised that there was no way it could have ever lived up to what you'd expect from those three guys. I remember buying Thunders's Diary Of a Lover and just hating it. I loved the Dolls and the Stooges in high school as a glam aficionado, which is kind of a weird way to get to those bands. I got there through trash and glam and Hit Parader reviews moreso than proto-punk leanings. I loved punk in high school, too, but the punkers back in the late 80's and early 90's weren't the people listening to Johnny Thunders. My area was largely NYHC or CTHC at the time, and punk was kind of something you had to traverse yourself. My point, I guess, is: Those trash junkies will kind of always let you down with their side projects. Actually, my prejudice about that has kept me from ever even owning L.A.M.F., which seems to be a horrible mistake as I sit here listening to it because of your post.
As for Me First and the Gimme Gimmes intros, that's probably the coolest little bit of trivia I've heard in a long time. I had their first album, and never, ever caught that. Awesome.
eta* Actually, anybody into the Dolls/Stooges/MC5 will love this, so I'll post the L.A.M.F. link I'm listening to, which is just unreal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYNM6_O3MjU