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***Official Road to the 2017 Breeders Cup*** - GUN RUNNER Romps, Rob Ryan Doppleganger Rejoices! (1 Viewer)

CONQUEST MO MONEY will skip, and aim for Preakness ... that opens the door for LOOKIN' AT LEE, and he is my early favorite to build exotics around ... can close on that expected hot pace, can certainly get the distance - great to see him pretty much assured of getting IN  :thumbup:

Castellano opts for GUNNEVERA mount over MALAGACY - expected, as Gunny is every bit as good as the top dogs going in ... hopefully his showing in the Fla. Derby throws some folks off of him (and puts him into double digits), as they all flock to ALWAYS DREAMING, instead ... that race is a total toss for Gunny, a sleeping giant coming into Churchill.  

Leparoux will pilot CLASSIC EMPIRE,  giving Jose Lezcano the mount on STATE OF HONOR.

 
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starting to warm up to Practical Joke as the horse who has yet to run his best race in this mediocre field, but i get a strong sense that the Derby winner will come from the cluster#### of pace that was the Blue Grass
IRAP is not that good, nor are TAPWRIT and McCRACKEN and J BOYS ECHO that bad - a very tough one to gauge - i had reservations about Tap going in ... he really didn't need that one, nor did JBE - 'Cracken did, and seemed to be a tad hampered by the rust.  he fared well enough to punch his Churchill ticket, now he can get to work on the big prize. 

I wanna love PJ more, i really do - but, as game as he was, he just couldn't close Irap down - i have misgivings about his ability to get the distance next month - but i will still use him underneath, based on the heart he showed in Keeneland.  

 
I can see your take on Gunny after watching FL Derby again.  outside post, came a little at the end. Will be be better price after that race. But looks like will need a trip. And could be making excuses for a horse that really is Grade 2 material. Not impossible. 

 I don't get your knock on AD though.  It's not as if he went wire to wire on concrete. He rated and should make his own trip. 

 
I can see your take on Gunny after watching FL Derby again.  outside post, came a little at the end. Will be be better price after that race. But looks like will need a trip. And could be making excuses for a horse that really is Grade 2 material. Not impossible. 

 I don't get your knock on AD though.  It's not as if he went wire to wire on concrete. He rated and should make his own trip. 
Gunny is a one move horse ... he's gotta rate off the front pack, then Castellano (best in the biz, atm) will 'gun' him - will easily be involved in the stretch call, he's been in with this class all season, nothing new here.  flashback to this textbook run in the F.O.Y. - sat the perfect trip, had a decent pace to close in to, and mopped it up w/ease ... that's the run i'm counting on come May 6th.  he will deliver.

as far as AD, i'm not tossing him, nor am i slagging him as a "pretender" ... just some healthy skepticism (as is our wont in this game) on a horse who was running harness fractions just two back in allowance company  :shrug:   i acknowledged that he's answered every question with authority, and has done all they've asked (and then some).   but i'm not about to crown him off of that FD - he's a top contender, and has as good a shot to be the top of this crop as any other horse ... just wanna see him do it while in with better class, on more even terms.

 
Haskin's  Derby Dozen - musings on the usual cast of characters, but mildly surprised to see BATTALION RUNNER up in there -  haven't given him much thought since the Wood (behind IWC), but he was a 'buzz', 'wiseguy' horse heading into that one.  man, Pletcher is #######' loaded this year (sameol'sameol', amirite?) 

speaking of which, there's talk of MALAGACY skipping Churchill, would not surprise me in the least.

 
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Here's a look at the Vegas odds as of April 20:

Classic Empire - 9/2

Always Dreaming - 5/1

Irish War Cry - 13/2

McCraken - 10/1

Gunnevera - 12/1

Battalion Runner - 16/1

Irap - 16/1

Practical Joke - 16/1

Tapwrit - 16/1

Girvin - 18/1

Hence - 22/1

Malagacy - 22/1

J Boys Echo - 28/1

Battle of Midway - 40/1

Cloud Computing 40/1

Conquest Mo Money - 40/1

Lookin At Lee - 40/1

Patch - 40/1

Royal Mo - 50/1

State of Honor - 50/1

Untrapped - 50/1

Fast and Accurate - 66/1

wow on HENCE at 22/1 ... best value for the win on that board (and gotta love Gunny at double digit odds, as well). 

one could do a hell of a lot worse than rolling him with Gunny and LAL for a nice compact tri  :thumbup:   but i'll be spreading more than that ...

 
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here, quoting betonline. couldnt find betonline's updated board, tho
thanks, pretty cool and in depth look given to some others in the field up on there  :thumbup:

as i poke around various sites/etc., i'm noticing more love for BATTLE OF MIDWAY, who clunked up behind Gormley in SAD  :shrug:

 
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thanks, pretty cool and in depth look given to some others in the field up on there  :thumbup:

as i poke around various sites/etc., i'm noticing more love for BATTLE OF MIDWAY, who clunked up behind Gormley in SAD  :shrug:
dont remember anyone behind Gormley to be excited about when i watched SAD. 

 
The 2017 Kentucky Derby prep races are complete, yes all 35 of them, which began in September 2016, when Not This Time won the Iroquois and ended on Saturday when the Two-Year-Old Champion Classic Empire had a winning return in the Arkansas Derby.

Over the next couple weeks there will no doubt be some defections from the field, but there is no reason to waste time. Here is my first analysis of the field for the 143rd running of the Kentucky Derby. For me, handicapping the Derby focuses on running style. It is important to remember that is most difficult to win the Run for the Roses on the front end, in recent history only War Emblem has done it. The past three years the winners have been stalkers who kept the pacesetters in close view knowing that the ten furlongs would be too much for them. However, since the year 2000, closers and deep closers have won the Derby far more often than any other style.

In this first run through I will not pick a definitive winner for the Derby, but will identify contenders to win the race or be part of the trifecta. At the same time noting horses that don’t have a chance. As many of you know in recent years my Derby wagering has focused on the trifecta. The horses are listed in order based on their qualifying point total.

1) Girvin [150 points – Joe Sharp] This son of Tale of Ekati has done almost nothing wrong in his career with three wins and a second place in his four races. His two Derby Trail victories at the Fair Grounds had my preferred running style by stalking or closing on the pace. Regular jockey Brian Hernandez has opted to ride McCraken, but Mike Smith has committed to ride for Sharp. Please note that Smith’s Derby record [22: 1-4-1] pales in comparison to his Breeders’ Cup stats, yet I’m sure Smith’s presence will impact the odds. Still, for me Girvin is a CONTENDER.

2) Classic Empire [132 points – Mark Casse] Does the Arkansas Derby victory mean that Classic Empire has put his woes behind him? It was no easy task to win that nine-furlong prep race off a 2½ month layoff. He is one of the few horses in the field that does not give me worry about the ten-furlong distance. He should only improve with that victory under his belt. Could his volatile personality become a problem with all of the Derby commotion? No doubt, but still Classic Empire is a strong CONTENDER.

3) Gormley [125 points – John Shirreffs] This son of Malibu Moon won three different Derby preps, but has had an up and down campaign in doing so. His win in the Santa Anita was against a group of horses that were staggering at the end of the nine furlongs. I have not seen a burst of speed from him down the stretch. He has three-time Derby winning jockey Victor Espinoza in the saddle. Gormley will NOT be on my tickets.

4) Irap [113 points – Doug O’Neill] Irap was no ordinary maiden when he won the Blue Grass to qualify for the Derby. The Blue Grass turned out to be a race where the main contenders did not show up and Irap dug in and held on after being part of the early pace. Everything went perfectly for him at Keeneland and that sure will not happen at Churchill Downs. I will NOT be using Irap.

5) Irish War Cry [110 points – Graham Motion] This son of Curlin redeemed himself big time in the Wood Memorial. His performance at Aqueduct while stalking the leaders was impressive and earned a very good speed figure. Rajiv Maragh did everything right in the saddle to get a coveted 100-point victory. I feel like I should be more excited about his chances in the Derby. He is a CONTENDER to be part of the trifecta, but will not help to produce a big payout.

6) Thunder Snow [100 points – Saeed bin Suroor] Team Godolphin has yet to make a decision about whether the UAE Derby winner will run in the Derby. That race has never produced a horse to impact the Run for the Roses, but this one could be the one to do so. His win in Dubai came with a powerful stretch run that would do him well at Churchill Downs. This CONTENDER will come with generous odds that make him a trifecta horse.

7) Always Dreaming [100 points – Todd Pletcher] Todd Pletcher has five horses in the Top 20 and this son of Bodemeister is the headliner and a likely short price. His three 2017 races have gotten better and better with a big victory in the Florida Derby. He is back working smartly since then. There are distance questions in the minds of many. He is certainly a CONTENDER, but one that will provide little value.

8) Gunnevera [84 points – Antonio Sano] I’ll be honest his lackluster third place finish in the Florida Derby left a bad taste in my mouth. He has been alternating wins and losses and the Derby field of 20 is not an easy place to be looking for a rebound victory. No doubt he will be running at the end and passing tired horses. I do NOT like him to win, but he is a trifecta CONTENDER.

9) Practical Joke [74 points – Chad Brown] He has been a game performer down the stretch on the Derby Trail without a win, however. He is going to win some big races as the year goes on, but in the Derby I do NOT see him hitting the board.

10) J Boys Echo [63 points – Dale Romans] J Boys Echo’s fourth place performance in the Blue Grass was a big disappointment. Romans’ record in the Derby [7: 0-0-2] does not help me feel confident about this son of Mineshaft. He beat Cloud Computing in the Gotham, but then that one ran poorly in the Wood Memorial. He has the running style that I like, but right now I am NOT looking at him as a key horse.

11) State of Honor [62 points – Mark Casse] He has a steak of five finishes in second or third all in stakes company with the most recent being a place behind Always Dreaming in the Florida Derby. The Run for the Roses would be a very unlikely spot for this horse to make an improvement, so I will NOT be using him.

12) Conquest Mo Money [60 points – Miguel Hernandez] This New Mexico based runner is not nominated for the Triple Crown and would require a $200,000 supplemental fee to run. He was staggering down the stretch while drifting out and still managed to hold on for second in the Arkansas Derby. My advice is to save the $200,000 because the Derby is NOT a good spot for Conquest Mo Money.

13) Tapwrit [54 points – Todd Pletcher] Tapwrit was another disappointment when he finished fifth in the Blue Grass. He beat State of Honor to win the Tampa Derby while rallying from behind. The $1.2 million yearling is NOT likely to bounce back in the Kentucky Derby.

14) Malagacy [50 points – Todd Pletcher] This son of Shackleford is no longer unbeaten after getting jostled around in the stretch and then fading badly to finish fifth. That poor finish and his pace pressing running style does NOT make him a top choice for me.

15) Hence [50 points – Steve Asmussen] This Calumet farms runner rallied from 10th place to win the Sunland Derby. I like his running style and his odds should be long. Hence is the kind of horse that can help produce one of those very big Kentucky Derby trifectas. Could he be a CONTENDER for the win spot with the right pace scenario? Not sure about that, but he will be a big part of my trifecta tickets.

16) Fast and Accurate [50 points – Mike Maker] Owner Kendall Hansen has indicated that he will pay the $200,000 to supplement his horse to the Triple Crown. His win in the Spiral was exciting, but paying that six-figure fee is a bad idea for a horse that is NOT going to earn back that money in the Derby.

17) McCraken [40 points – Ian Wilkes] It is feels a bit odd to see McCraken so far down any Kentucky Derby list, but he got just enough points to make the field after finishing third in the Blue Grass. Hopefully that race will be enough to set McCraken up for a big run in the Derby. He certainly has the talent and the poise to be in a good striking position turning for home. Ian Wilkes knows what it takes to train a Derby CONTENDER.

18) Battle of Midway [40 points – Jerry Hollendorfer] Jerry Hollendorfer does not send many horses to the Derby and he has not had much success [5: 0-0-0]. He got his points when he finished second in the Santa Anita Derby after giving up the lead near the wire. This is NOT the year for West Coast based horses in the Derby.

19) Patch [40 points – Todd Pletcher] Off only two career races, the one-eyed son of Union Rags made a big run to finish second in the Louisiana Derby behind Girvin. He has every right to improve off of that race. If he does he has a big chance to light up the board as a trifecta CONTENDER.

20) Battalion Runner [40 points – Todd Pletcher] Battalion Runner tired down the stretch of the Wood Memorial and held on for second after not having run for two months. The Derby distance would seem to be a big challenge. His pace pressing style could make sure that there are quick early fractions on the First Saturday in May, but it is NOT likely that he will be in a challenging position at the race’s end.

 
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great stuff, GM  :thumbup:   good looks. 

as far as Gunny is concerned, the far outside post in a blazing Stakes race is damn near impossible at Gulfstream - he did extremely well to get a piece of that money, and actually ran the fastest final 1/2 in the field.   the dive waaaayyyy inside - no more than two seconds after the gate sprung - was a clear tell that they had zero interest in using what was gonna be needed to win that race, on that day, on that surface.  

yeah, i keep bringing this up because that race is a total toss for him - draw a line through, it was not the one to judge him on.  

but, conversely, the more folks take it at face value, rather than with a grain of salt, the better his price will be.  i view him as a very solid (top five) contender to win the thing outright.  the race should set up perfectly for him - if he draws anywhere from 4-16, and has double digit odds, then it will be the one win bet i'd consider (perhaps HENCE, as well - but I like Gunny's style better at 10f). 

ETA: CONQUEST MO needs to be replaced with UNTRAPPED, and LOOKIN AT LEE is gonna have a gate. 

 
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Anyone got a horse they will key to be in the trifecta on most of their tickets? I was looking at IWC, but that one bad race scares me a little.

 
Anyone got a horse they will key to be in the trifecta on most of their tickets? I was looking at IWC, but that one bad race scares me a little.
best bet to hit the board is Gunny, no question ... Lookin' At Lee is an interesting cat as well, and will fetch a better r.o.i. - just gotta get Malagacy to opt out so LAL gets in.

 
getting back to bet strategy here, and to what Hoard was inquiring about ...

my big bet will be the trifecta key box, settling on one horse to anchor that wager.  will play him with probably ten others this Derby, as i see this as a year some rain can fall back on these payouts. - so it would break down as follows:

key /a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j/ a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j - a.b.c.d.e,f,g,h,i,j /key/ a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j - a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j /a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j / key

that's a ton of coverage, and my key has to hit the board in any of those three spots, as well as two of the other ten scoring, as well.

it's much more economical than the box (boxing 11 horses on a $2 wager would run $1980, while using the key costs $540), but much riskier, as your key gotta hit.  

of course, playing that above key strategy for $1 would run $270.

or one could settle on a key colt, and box with much less coverage -  if you are dead set clear on a horse hitting the board, this is definitely the best method for the tri/super.

here is some help in calculating wager costs -  comes in handy when deciding how to spread.

 
Home field advantage list:

McCraken - 3 for 3

Classic Empire - 2 for 2

J Boys Echo - one 2nd in 2 races

Hence - one 2nd in 2 races

Lookin At Lee - one 2nd in 2 races

 
Home field advantage list:

McCraken - 3 for 3

Classic Empire - 2 for 2

J Boys Echo - one 2nd in 2 races

Hence - one 2nd in 2 races

Lookin At Lee - one 2nd in 2 races
yeah, 'Crack is the "horse for the course" candidate - CE none too shabby - and love seeing LAL up on there - he will be coming late w/Gunny - would be absolutely shocked if both missed the board. 

Shocked. 

 
Monday 4/24 at Churchill ...

Hence

Classic Empire

Lookin' At Lee

Untrapped

State Of Honor

McCracken

DRF's Derby Clocker Mike Welsch  gives his take on the above  (he's loving the looks of 'Crack and Untrapped)

and, fwiw, Vegas Insider's Mike Dempsey has his early line available -

Odds to win 2017 Kentucky Derby (5/6/17) - per Sportsbook.agClassic Empire 3/1Always Dreaming 3/1Gunnevera 4/1Irish War Cry 5/1Irap 8/1Mc Craken 8/1Gormley 10/1Girvin 11/1Lookin At Lee 12/1Tapwrit 12/1Battalion Runner 15/1Malagacy 15/1Practical Joke 15/1Thunder Snow 16/1Hence 20/1J Boys Echo 20/1Battle of Midway 30/1Royal Mo 40/1Sonneteer 40/1Untrapped 40/1Patch 45/1State of Honor 45/1Fast and Accurate 50/1Will there be a 2017 Triple Crown Winner? - per Sportsbook.agYes +550No -850
 

 
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watching some of the live breezes/works this morning ... Patch/Battalion Runner (looks like he put on some good weight)/McCracken all looked very fresh and spry ... Always Dreaming was kinda ornery and appeared to be a bit washed out - think he arrived yesterday, so this was first time breezing at Churchill. 

and, gotta say, watching J Boys Echo yesterday was like a dressage drill - that is one big, majestic beast - and once he started motoring he looked damn good. 

in jock news, Smith will ride Girvin (another reason to dig that under rated colt), as regular rider Hernandez Jr. goes with McCracken. 

 
watching some of the live breezes/works this morning ... Patch/Battalion Runner (looks like he put on some good weight)/McCracken all looked very fresh and spry ... Always Dreaming was kinda ornery and appeared to be a bit washed out - think he arrived yesterday, so this was first time breezing at Churchill. 
lublublub me a spring weight gain, especially w a sire like Unbridled in the tail line. an old-fashioned guy like me always likes the Derby horse who started his career first, too, so i'm moving paceboy Battalion waaaay up, do you know who's got the call, o Wizard of Odds?

 
shorthand version of field as of now:

RANK, HORSE, POINTS, TRAINER

Last race

1. Girvin, 150, Joe Sharp

Won Louisiana Derby (April 1 at Fair Grounds)

2. Classic Empire, 132, Mark Casse

Won Arkansas Derby (April 15 at Oaklawn)

3. Gormley, 125, John Shirreffs

Won Santa Anita Derby (April 8)

4. Irap, 113, Doug O’Neill

Won Blue Grass (April 8 at Keeneland)

5. Irish War Cry, 110, Graham Motion

Won Wood Memorial (April 8 at Aqueduct)

6. Thunder Snow, 100, Saeed bin Suroor

Won UAE Derby (March 25 at Meydan)

7. Always Dreaming, 100, Todd Pletcher

Won Florida Derby (April 1 at Gulfstream)

8. Gunnevera, 84, Antonio Sano

Third in Florida Derby (April 1 at Gulfstream)

9. Practical Joke, 74, Chad Brown

Second in Blue Grass (April 8 at Keeneland)

10. J Boys Echo, 63, Dale Romans

Fourth in Blue Grass (April 8 at Keeneland)

11. State of Honor, 62, Mark Casse

Second in Florida Derby (April 1 at Gulfstream)

12. Tapwrit, 54, Todd Pletcher

Fifth in Blue Grass (April 8 at Keeneland)

13. Malagacy, 50, Todd Pletcher

Fifth in Arkansas Derby (April 15 at Oaklawn)

14. Hence, 50, Steve Asmussen

Won Sunland Derby (March 26 at Sunland Park)

$$-15. Fast and Accurate, 50, Mike Maker

Won Spiral (March 25 at Turfway)

16. McCraken, 40, Ian Wilkes

Third in Blue Grass (April 8 at Keeneland)

17. Battle of Midway, 40, Jerry Hollendorfer

Second in Santa Anita Derby (April 8)

18. Patch, 40, Todd Pletcher

Second in Louisiana Derby (April 1 at Fair Grounds)

19. Battalion Runner, 40, Todd Pletcher

Second in Wood Memorial (April 8 at Aqueduct)

20. Untrapped, 34, Steve Asmussen

Sixth in Arkansas Derby (April 15 at Oaklawn)

FIRST FOUR OUT

21. Lookin At Lee, 32, Steve Asmussen

Third in Arkansas Derby (April 15 at Oaklawn)

22. Sonneteer, 30, Keith Desormeaux

Fourth in Arkansas Derby (April at 15 at Oaklawn)

23. Royal Mo, 30, John Shirreffs

Third in Santa Anita Derby (April 8)

24. Local Hero, 30, Steve Asmussen

Third in Louisiana Derby (April 1 at Fair Grounds)

$$-Connections have indicated will be supplemented to Derby for $200,000.

 
lublublub me a spring weight gain, especially w a sire like Unbridled in the tail line. an old-fashioned guy like me always likes the Derby horse who started his career first, too, so i'm moving paceboy Battalion waaaay up, do you know who's got the call, o Wizard of Odds?
nuttin' yet, wik ... can't fault Johnny V for jumping in AD's irons for the big one - leaving BR sans pilot, atm - but this one is starting to generate some good buzz  :thumbup:

@Leroy Hoard - as per your post - pretty sure Malagacy drops, opening it up for LAL, who has been breezing nicely at Churchill. 

 
Just got done watchin' the early morn work-outs near the pole...

...lookin' good!

And as soon as I left Deja Vu, I checked the Churchill poles as well...

...horses lookin' good too, but not quite up to the strippers.

 
just caught this morning's works ...

McCrackenand Hence look very strong, and, once again, J Boys Echo looks beastly - his full stride down the stretch was eye popping  :shock:

Classic Empire was moving like he means serious business ... fluid, quick, effortless power.  

Patch looks very relaxed and fit, working extremely well.

Practical Joke worked w/blinkers - don't think he's ever raced with the shades. 

 
things looking a lot worse for Girvin - if he sits, Smith is available for a mount (Battalion Runner? Lookin' At Lee?)   :yes:  

...  it would also open the door for Rebel/Ark. Derby darling Sonneteer 

Robby Albarado with fractured leg, so Saez will take the ride on J Boys Echo.

on the track yesterday -

CE

Gunny

Patch

'Crack

State Of Honor

AD (calmed down a bit since last look, but still rambunctious out there)

Battalion Runner

PJ (notice the newly added blinkers)

 
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they start the morning works for the Derby/Oaks hopefuls at 8:30 a.m. sharp ... Always Dreaming was first one out today, and, man - what a difference from the past couple mornings - WOW!

extremely well behaved, looking fresh and fit - and his gallop/stride/speed were nothing short of awesome - he looked like a Champion today-  very, very impressed with what i saw  :thumbup:

 
they start the morning works for the Derby/Oaks hopefuls at 8:30 a.m. sharp ... Always Dreaming was first one out today, and, man - what a difference from the past couple mornings - WOW!

extremely well behaved, looking fresh and fit - and his gallop/stride/speed were nothing short of awesome - he looked like a Champion today-  very, very impressed with what i saw  :thumbup:
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they start the morning works for the Derby/Oaks hopefuls at 8:30 a.m. sharp ... Always Dreaming was first one out today, and, man - what a difference from the past couple mornings - WOW!

extremely well behaved, looking fresh and fit - and his gallop/stride/speed were nothing short of awesome - he looked like a Champion today-  very, very impressed with what i saw  :thumbup:


 here it is  ... on it's own, it's a fantastic work, but, when you compare it to the two previous ones i posted, it's even more impressive - a complete night/day shift in demeanor and purpose (though the slightest  bit of tugging at first).  it speaks for itself, he flat-out looks beastly, and 100% ready to roll.

some more from yesterday ...

'Crack

Gunny

Patch & Tap (Patch the brown on the inside)

BR

State Of Honor

Irap

PJ

JBE

Hence

ETA: this on Girvin 


Jeremy Balan @BH_JBalan


Ran into Mike Smith on the apron today and asked about Girvin. He shook his head and said, "I don't know what's going on."

:unsure:


 

 
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as expected, MALAGACY is OUT - pointed towards the Preakness.

and, in a shocker, BATTALION RUNNER is also OUT - Pletcher sending him for a freshening.  

those two defections put LOOKIN' AT LEE and SONNETEER officially IN for next Saturday  :thumbup:  

that pair are gonna give Gunny some company down the stretch ... expect all three to be closing on the speed as they hit the final 1/4, they are must uses on any exotic tix.

-  the forgotten S.A. Derby darling who we haven't seen yet, here is  Gormley  during his 4/29 work, w/some analysis by Carrothers and Joyce.

 
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as expected, MALAGACY is OUT - pointed towards the Preakness.

and, in a shocker, BATTALION RUNNER is also OUT - Pletcher sending him for a freshening.  

those two defections put LOOKIN' AT LEE and SONNETEER officially IN for next Saturday  :thumbup:  

that pair are gonna give Gunny some company down the stretch ... expect all three to be closing on the speed as they hit the final 1/4, they are must uses on any exotic tix.

-  the forgotten S.A. Derby darling who we haven't seen yet, here is  Gormley  during his 4/29 work, w/some analysis by Carrothers and Joyce.
Cripes this is good stuff.  Can't thank you enough.

 
Young and DeRosa take a look at a few of  the horses on the track yesterday, including an impressive final work by McCracken

our first glimpse of Sonneteer (4/30) at Churchill

Hence (4/29)

PJ  (4/29)

JBE (4/29)

Fast And Accurate (the Gray, 4/30)

so, where has Irish War Cry been? i haven't posted any of his works/breezes ... he's been training at Fair Hills in Maryland, hasn't hit the Churchill surface yet - he ships for Kentucky this morning, will finally get out on the track tomorrow.

some articles of note ...

pretty cool piece on the Brooklyn Connections of AD. 

HRN takes a look at the field

Mike Curry on some longer shots

Newsday's Ed McNamara chimes in

Just The Facts, Ma'am

Zipse loves him some McCracken

Six 'Experts' with their top ten for Derby/oaks

 
just finished watching this morning's works - these caught my eye ...

Sonneteer looked pretty damn good, drilling his 4f in 47.8 .. fit and fresh and full of run on the gallop out. 

State Of Honor is a big boy who can motor, looks majestic out there ... dunno if he can sustain for the10f, but he will be a pace factor.

Hence looked amazing - appears to be gliding so effortlessly out there - the power and speed are so damn evident.  went his 4f in 48.4, galloped out with plenty in the tank.  

looking forward to the UAE Derby winner Thunder Snow getting released from quarantine, and his works ... and, of course, seeing Irish War Cry get in his prep drill tomorrow. 

 
I'm heading down to the Derby tomorrow.  This will be my 1st time to the Derby and am extremely excited.  We'll be at the Oaks as well.  

I'm fairly new to horse betting.  I am not interested in doubling my money, or even making a few grand.  I am willing to take a chance and go for the super and the 6 figure payday that could potentially be life changing.  

I have narrowed it down to 10 horses that I like and will try to eliminate 2 more based on post position.   

Here are my favorites ranked in order of my confidence in them hitting the top 4.   

Classic Empire

McCraken

Gunnevera

Always Dreaming

Irish War Cry

Hence

Lookin at Lee

J Boys Echo

Sonneteer

Patch

I will plan on picking 2 from the bottom 4 horses to get down to 8 total horses.   If I want to make a $500 bet, what is the best way to get the most for my money betting the super?

 

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