Official Robert Griffin III - RGIII RG3 (1 Viewer)

[SeanTaylor21]

Admittedly-- I have been one of RG3s last defenders. I haven't done it publicly to avoid being eaten alive by the Sharks in here. I've been the optimist that's always taken the "oh he's just being played that way in the media" route. Well, my friends, I have finally opened my eyes to see the light.

I'm coming clean on this beautiful 2nd day of September 2015 to state that RG3 is a read option QB and a read option QB only. I am now on the same boat as everyone else, as I have aborted USS RG3 after the latest sinkage. He cannot and won't be a pocket passer, folks. You guys already know this and I've got enough evidence from watching his every snap and only focusing on the good things (or trying to).

I will never forget the amount of pride he gave me to be a Redskins fan during his rookie year. I will also never forget the feelings I felt of actually being somewhat good and dangerous as an offense. Those feelings are probably to blame for me holding on for this long.

I am curious: unless you re-watched previous seasons' tape, what did you see in this preseason to change your mind?

What I saw was a QB that cannot make the reads to hit the guys when they are open. Often I saw Garçon and Grant break their routes as expected and RG3 couldn't deliver. We saw with Andy Dalton how a QB can put up stats by simply making the right reads under Gruden.

I saw a QB that would shift the OL coverage prior to the snap and have that result in what looked like 24 people in the backfield.

I saw a QB who passed up the open man right in front of him to throw into double coverage.

The problem was me because he has been doing these things for years, I was just watching him with positive blinders.

 

[lod01]

Does Bob get to play tonight or is he so bad that he doesn't even get to play with the scrubs?

 

[Arodin]

Does Bob get to play tonight or is he so bad that he doesn't even get to play with the scrubs?

Not that he's so bad (he is), but that he's so fragile they dare not let him get hurt before they can cut him.

 

[tangfoot]

He won't see the league doctor until tomorrow. He can't play. And he can't play well.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

The Redskins confirm Robert Griffin III (concussion) could be cleared to return as early as Friday.

When/if RGIII gains final clearance is when the real drama will begin. Once deemed healthy, the No. 2 overall pick of the 2012 draft can be waived. It remains a mystery why the team originally said Griffin had been cleared last week only to back track, but so is life in Daniel Snyder's Washington.

Source: Redskins on Twitter

Sep 3 - 10:43 PM

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Rotoworld:

The Redskins confirm Robert Griffin III (concussion) could be cleared to return as early as Friday.

When/if RGIII gains final clearance is when the real drama will begin. Once deemed healthy, the No. 2 overall pick of the 2012 draft can be waived. It remains a mystery why the team originally said Griffin had been cleared last week only to back track, but so is life in Daniel Snyder's Washington.

Source: Redskins on Twitter

Sep 3 - 10:43 PM

Jesus. Yes, the Redskins suck, RG3 sucks, and Dan Snyder sucks. But no rotoworld, it does NOT remain a mystery why the Skins backtracked on his concussion protocol clearance...because they were led to believe the doctors would clear him, and then after further review and consultation amongst themselves, he was not actually cleared. They changed their mind, after possibly speaking too soon to Redskins brass originally. It was a doctor screw-up, not a Redskins screw-up. Unless you count the original clearance leaking before the official decision, of course.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Damn, that's cold...

https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/639775587192733697

 

[(HULK)]

I was at the game, I sit lower level behind the skins bench.

When RG3 came out after half time to walk back to the bench, a significant number of people stood up and cheered for him. I was kinda surprised by this.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Damn, that's cold...

https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/639775587192733697

At first I figured that was someone being funny with Photoshop, but no, it's onthe Redskins website.

 

[3nOut]

If get gets cut, where would be the best landing spot for him? Would it have to be a system that fits his skills or should a team take a chance on this former high first rounder regardless? Would you want YOUR team to take a chance on him? As a Bears fan, given Cutlers future with the team, I would. Give him a year to learn the play book and see what happy next year. Although, I think the Bears would be better off finding a way to get Glennon from the Bucs instead.

 

[cstu]

Damn, that's cold...

https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/639775587192733697

 

[Sabertooth]

In games where RG3 has started and finished, he has averaged almost 20 fantasy points per game. 43 rushing yards per game.

No way he's finished in the NFL.

 

[Shutout]

If get gets cut, where would be the best landing spot for him? Would it have to be a system that fits his skills or should a team take a chance on this former high first rounder regardless? Would you want YOUR team to take a chance on him? As a Bears fan, given Cutlers future with the team, I would. Give him a year to learn the play book and see what happy next year. Although, I think the Bears would be better off finding a way to get Glennon from the Bucs instead.

The best place for him would be a place where he can clearly sit and get it back together and maybe learn a few things from a real professional group of peers and coaches. He doesn't need to go somewhere where he will play soon or somewhere where he is close to age and perceived to be a guy that could supplant the incumbent.

Send him to Pittsburgh, San Diego, New York Giants, Arizona Cardinals (my favorite). Somewhere like that where he's got great players in front of him and shouldn't be thought of as playing.

 

[SeanTaylor21]

In my league he's had seven (7) total games scoring more than 30 points in the past two years. In that same time he's had seven (7) total games scoring less than 20 points.

Not saying he's absolutely done, but I just don't see another team offering up their scheme to match his play.

 

[Shutout]

In my league he's had seven (7) total games scoring more than 30 points in the past two years. In that same time he's had seven (7) total games scoring less than 20 points.

Not saying he's absolutely done, but I just don't see another team offering up their scheme to match his play.

Here's the thing and I'm not trying to be snarky but you're talking about fantasy football vs. real football.

In the NFL, it is a league that is plagued with mediocre-at-best QB play and, due to injuries, a lot of these pedestrian players find themselves starting 3-6 games a year. Matt Shaub and Tim Tebow are still in this league.

Just based on that dynamic of supply and demand and very scarce true excellence at the position, I think RG III is far from done or out of the league or even irrelevant in FF. Michael Vick. With all the things that happened to him. With all the similar types of struggles he had, that guy made an absolute renaissance of his career and completely recaptured his value in ff.

I think the lesson to learn is "wait for it" and then be ready to capitalize and sell.

 

[SeanTaylor21]

In my league he's had seven (7) total games scoring more than 30 points in the past two years. In that same time he's had seven (7) total games scoring less than 20 points.

Not saying he's absolutely done, but I just don't see another team offering up their scheme to match his play.

Here's the thing and I'm not trying to be snarky but you're talking about fantasy football vs. real football.

In the NFL, it is a league that is plagued with mediocre-at-best QB play and, due to injuries, a lot of these pedestrian players find themselves starting 3-6 games a year. Matt Shaub and Tim Tebow are still in this league.

Just based on that dynamic of supply and demand and very scarce true excellence at the position, I think RG III is far from done or out of the league or even irrelevant in FF. Michael Vick. With all the things that happened to him. With all the similar types of struggles he had, that guy made an absolute renaissance of his career and completely recaptured his value in ff.

I think the lesson to learn is "wait for it" and then be ready to capitalize and sell.

The bolded is exactly right. While it's difficult for me to imagine him getting back to real life relevance which is obviously needed before he can provide fantasy relevance, I do understand that there is a chance. Somebody will no doubt pick him up to sit and learn, which is something that we've not yet seen for him. The question becomes whether or not he becomes a distraction if his ego doesn't allow him to do so or whether he actually learns from sitting and develops his game.

 

[Sabertooth]

I hope he clears waivers and goes to a team of his choosing. Would love him to land in Houston.

 

[SeanTaylor21]

I hope he clears waivers and goes to a team of his choosing. Would love him to land in Houston.

Would be a better homecoming than him going to Dallas, that's for sure. JO'B is a nice coach to sit and learn with...

 

[Chadstroma]

I hope he clears waivers and goes to a team of his choosing. Would love him to land in Houston.

Would make tons of sense all around.

I think he us much better than what Houston has now so I can't see the team not wanting to go that route with him on top of how fans likely will want it to happen.

I think the love he would get would really boost his confidence which I think is the biggest issue for the kid right now.

 

[Brunell4MVP]

If get gets cut, where would be the best landing spot for him? Would it have to be a system that fits his skills or should a team take a chance on this former high first rounder regardless? Would you want YOUR team to take a chance on him? As a Bears fan, given Cutlers future with the team, I would. Give him a year to learn the play book and see what happy next year. Although, I think the Bears would be better off finding a way to get Glennon from the Bucs instead.

He can't learn a playbook. It's his #1 issue. He makes the wrong OL calls. He makes the wrong step drop backs. He makes wrong target reads. He could have 4 years behind cutler to learn it and it won't happen. The only solution for him to be a good QB is a spread offense where he can look at 1 side of the field and take off running if it breaks down, or a zone read offense.

It's fine to want him in your team. I think if Griffin accepted playing in that type of offense he could be good, and even less prone to injury because he's not trapped in a pocket. But you need a coach that is an innovator and Griffin to accept what kind of QB he really is.

I really think Houston or KC is a good landing spot for him. He could actually start both places fairly soon, like a year, and the cities aren't a media and organizational circus. It also gets him out of the nfc.

I for one think the Redskins keep him in hopes of a trade. Teams are probably seeing if he will get cut first. So id roster him. that way I have control over where he goes. Then try to swing a 6th rounder for him, and Griffin would need to restructure his contract which he should be willing to do to get out of DC.

 

[Sabertooth]

I hope he clears waivers and goes to a team of his choosing. Would love him to land in Houston.

Would make tons of sense all around.I think he us much better than what Houston has now so I can't see the team not wanting to go that route with him on top of how fans likely will want it to happen.

I think the love he would get would really boost his confidence which I think is the biggest issue for the kid right now.

It's settled then. I'll submit the paperwork.

 

[cstu]

I hope he clears waivers and goes to a team of his choosing. Would love him to land in Houston.

Would love to see him land in the CFL. He could really make an impact there.

 

[Tool]

I hope he clears waivers and goes to a team of his choosing. Would love him to land in Houston.

Would make tons of sense all around.

I think he us much better than what Houston has now so I can't see the team not wanting to go that route with him on top of how fans likely will want it to happen.

I think the love he would get would really boost his confidence which I think is the biggest issue for the kid right now.

He's not better than Cousins apparently, so not sure why he'd be better than Hoyer.

 

[Apple Jack]

Damn, that's cold...

https://twitter.com/dcsportsbog/status/639775587192733697

Is he not still on the team? Heat from the fire starting the melt the dumpster.

 

[Sabertooth]

I'm thinking the writing is on the wall. I just traded Charles Sims for RG3 in a Superflex so I'm hoping he goes to another team.

 

[Old Smiley]

Gruden's part of this #### show. What's he done? Made Andy Dalton the man he is today?

 

[pghrob]

nfl.com reporting that RGIII will remain with Redskins as the backup.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000522871/article/washington-redskins-plan-to-keep-rgiii

 

[Old Smiley]

nfl.com reporting that RGIII will remain with Redskins as the backup.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000522871/article/washington-redskins-plan-to-keep-rgiii

I just saw where McCoy's been told he's the two.

Edit: So I guess he really is RG 3.

congratulations, you're the 1000th person to make that joke.

 

[Sabertooth]

We shall see.

 

[GroveDiesel]

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/09/05/washington-redskins-rg3-neurologist

Anybody see this article/tweets about RG3's concussion doctor?

Some former soccer player ripped him and said the doctor is a total hack that almost caused him brain damage by clearing him way too early and mocking him when he questioned it.

And yet this doctor not only is still treating RG3, but was sitting on the NFL's concussion advisory board as well up until Friday when he resigned.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/09/05/washington-redskins-rg3-neurologist

Anybody see this article/tweets about RG3's concussion doctor?

Some former soccer player ripped him and said the doctor is a total hack that almost caused him brain damage by clearing him way too early and mocking him when he questioned it.

And yet this doctor not only is still treating RG3, but was sitting on the NFL's concussion advisory board as well up until Friday when he resigned.

San Diego had a similar issue with their doctor a couple years back. It happens.

What kind of concussion symptoms is Griffin suffering, is he still having any?

I thought this a weird blurb from RW:

Griffin was examined by an independent neurologist late this week, but neither he nor the team has been given the results of that exam.

Seems kind of odd to have a medical examine and no one gets the results. Maybe the Redskin couldn't cut him because they didn't know if he was healthy or not.

 

[Faust]

Redskins coach Jay Gruden explains decision to keep Robert Griffin III:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13597397/jay-gruden-washington-redskins-keeping-robert-griffin-iii-one-our-top-53

 

[Faust]

Redskins waiting on RGIII tests before backup decision:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000524617/article/redskins-waiting-on-rgiii-tests-before-backup-decision

 

[JetMaxx]

Definition of Toxic

 

[Sebowski]

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/09/05/washington-redskins-rg3-neurologist

Anybody see this article/tweets about RG3's concussion doctor?

Some former soccer player ripped him and said the doctor is a total hack that almost caused him brain damage by clearing him way too early and mocking him when he questioned it.

And yet this doctor not only is still treating RG3, but was sitting on the NFL's concussion advisory board as well up until Friday when he resigned.

This is seriously getting under played. The guy could actually have serious longterm concussion issues right now and all that is being covered is the politics and general Redskins bashing. The first thing that needs to be done is talk about his health and the concussion in a serious manner. Then go ahead and return to bashing and hating if you like. For now let's just focus on his health and the ongoing concussion issue.

 

[Sebowski]

Definition of Toxic

adjective

1. of, pertaining to, affected with, or caused by a toxin or poison: a toxic condition.
2. acting as or having the effect of a poison; poisonous: a toxic drug.
3. pertaining to or noting debt that will probably not be repaid: toxic mortgages.
4. pertaining to or noting a financial instrument or other asset that hasno value or an unknown value because there is no market for it: toxic mortgage-backed securities.
noun5. a toxic chemical or other substance.
Ask me another one.

 

[Ted Mullins]

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/09/05/washington-redskins-rg3-neurologist

Anybody see this article/tweets about RG3's concussion doctor?

Some former soccer player ripped him and said the doctor is a total hack that almost caused him brain damage by clearing him way too early and mocking him when he questioned it.

And yet this doctor not only is still treating RG3, but was sitting on the NFL's concussion advisory board as well up until Friday when he resigned.

This is seriously getting under played. The guy could actually have serious longterm concussion issues right now and all that is being covered is the politics and general Redskins bashing. The first thing that needs to be done is talk about his health and the concussion in a serious manner. Then go ahead and return to bashing and hating if you like. For now let's just focus on his health and the ongoing concussion issue.

In all fairness, the soccer guy that was ranting on twitter came back the other day and said that he had the wrong guy, the doctor that messed up with the soccer player was a partner of RG3's guy apparently, not the same person. Doesn't change the whole situation from being a bizarre circus, but apparently not the same person now.

 

[rickyg]

Agh it's all coming together for me now.

Robert Griffith the 3rd...stringer! That's why he has that name! I thought it was BC he's the 3rd robert griffin in a long line of robert Griffins.

 

[CapnJB]

I used to poke fun at my friend who is a Jags fan because they took a punter 4 picks before the Seahawks took Wilson.

That guy still has a starting job.

 

[Faust]

Darrell Green: Early fame limited Robert Griffin III's chances for success

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25299192/darrell-green-early-fame-limited-robert-griffin-iiis-chances-for-success

 

[Faust]

RG3 was never going to live up to our -- or his own -- expectations:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13623718/washington-redskins-qb-robert-griffin-iii-was-superstar-only-our-imaginations

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Robert Griffin III - QB - Redskins

The Redskins will keep Robert Griffin III as their No. 3 quarterback.

Griffin III finally received clearance from doctors this week after missing time with a concussion. He's been demoted to No. 3 on the depth chart behind starter Kirk Cousins and backup Colt McCoy. Expect the former Heisman Trophy winner to do a lot of clipboard-holding this year.

Source: NFL.com

Sep 13 - 8:48 AM

 

[Faust]

Robert Griffin III practiced with scout team defense at safety:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000528651/article/robert-griffin-iii-practiced-with-scout-team-defense-at-safety

 

[pantherclub]

Robert Griffin III practiced with scout team defense at safety:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000528651/article/robert-griffin-iii-practiced-with-scout-team-defense-at-safety

The skins are just trolling him now

 

[FreshiZ]

Robert Griffin III practiced with scout team defense at safety:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000528651/article/robert-griffin-iii-practiced-with-scout-team-defense-at-safety

The skins are just trolling him now

It's actually kind of sad...

 

[Sabertooth]

The funny thing is he was considered a very humble player coming out. I remember stories about his Army brat upbringing. Gruden does seem like a total **** though. He's so unlike his brother. Who seems awesome.

 

[Faust]

Is it fair to blame RGIII's decline on his overexposure?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000538613/article/is-it-fair-to-blame-rgiiis-decline-on-his-overexposure

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Was dropped in my dynasty and is still sitting on waivers.

 

[Gandalf]

What happened

The funny thing is he was considered a very humble player coming out. I remember stories about his Army brat upbringing. Gruden does seem like a total **** though. He's so unlike his brother. Who seems awesome.

Exactly! I remember news stories about how down to earth he was. He seems like a total head case now - though sometimes people regress to earlier stages of coping under stress. He's had a lot of loss and narcissistic injury. Needs a fresh start I think.

 

[lod01]

BGT.