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Official Robert Griffin III - RGIII RG3 (1 Viewer)

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The funny thing is he was considered a very humble player coming out. I remember stories about his Army brat upbringing. Gruden does seem like a total **** though. He's so unlike his brother. Who seems awesome.
Exactly! I remember news stories about how down to earth he was. He seems like a total head case now - though sometimes people regress to earlier stages of coping under stress. He's had a lot of loss and narcissistic injury. Needs a fresh start I think.
Yes, most in the media hyped him up but there were character concerns circulating.

In a recent piece by Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, various scouts and personnel people size up the top 10 quarterbacks of the 2012 draft class, and there are some interesting opinions afoot. Specifically, one scout's take on Robert Griffin III:

"As much as is written about his athleticism, his athleticism under duress in the pocket isn't even close to Cam Newton's. This guy, the only way he gets big plays with his feet is if he's got a wide-open field and the sea opens for him. He's got a little bit of a selfish streak, too. Everybody was laying on Cam, but for some reason this guy has become gloves off. He doesn't treat anybody good." Another scout also questioned the way Griffin deals with people.
 
What happened

The funny thing is he was considered a very humble player coming out. I remember stories about his Army brat upbringing. Gruden does seem like a total **** though. He's so unlike his brother. Who seems awesome.
Exactly! I remember news stories about how down to earth he was. He seems like a total head case now - though sometimes people regress to earlier stages of coping under stress. He's had a lot of loss and narcissistic injury. Needs a fresh start I think.
Fame.

It can be too much for some.

 
I guess not, 3rd string QBs with injury and locker room issues are not usually tradeable commodities.
What locker room issues? Even the article above says the opposite.

But yeah, that must be it - his one torn ligaments injury and those rumored locker room issues :) It's either those things, or...maybe...his poor passing skills and 16M contract?

 
I just acquired RG|||

Does he need a change of venue? Or Is he going to have to assume backup dutys, and earn a starting gig

 
I just acquired RG|||

Does he need a change of venue? Or Is he going to have to assume backup dutys, and earn a starting gig
I think so. He's not going to be guaranteed a starting gig somewhere but he might challenge somebody. Just thinking real quick I could see Chicago, San Fran, Houston makes a lot of sense. I don't think Washington is going to have him back, and to be honest moving elsewhere is better for him. Washington is just a black hole. I'd love to see him in Houston.

 
Yeah I actually meant to type Does he need more than just a change of venue..

San Fran is who I was considering as I typed..

I actually own, and have started Kaep since day 1

It just seams like a mess down there..

Basically I was hopin to hear more like Miami or Denver

Its nice to hear some are still positive on the guy, none the less..

 
I don't know why anyone is positive on rg3's chances of becoming a consistently successful nfl qb.

He's a phenomenal athlete that can throw the ball 80 yards down the field. Other than that he's got no resemblance to an nfl qb

He doesn't have amazing accuracy. He doesn't have a great grasp of defensive coverages. He has no feel for the pass rush. He's a turnover machine. He's injury prone. He's lost a step and isn't as threatening as a runner. He doesn't know how to slide and leaves himself open to injury constantly BC of that. He's egotistical. He's entitled. And he's done nothing other than take the league by surprise for one year and he has sucked and been injured sever since.

The fact that Kirk cousins is now successfully leading the redskins offense is all you need to know about rg3.

I dumped him to the wire in my dynasty league 4 weeks ago and couldn't be happier about it. It was like a huge weight off my fantasy shoulders.

 
The fact that Kirk cousins is now successfully leading the redskins offense is all you need to know about rg3.
I don't know if you've watched any Redskins games this year, but I wouldn't say Kirk is successfully leading the offense. An offense that is 25th in PPG and Kirk has a shiny 5:6 TD:INT ratio. Would Griffin be doing any better? No idea. But I wouldn't say Kirk has done anything that qualifies as "successful" this season. Not screw up the Rams and Eagles game? Sure, he's done that.

 
The fact that Kirk cousins is now successfully leading the redskins offense is all you need to know about rg3.
I don't know if you've watched any Redskins games this year, but I wouldn't say Kirk is successfully leading the offense. An offense that is 25th in PPG and Kirk has a shiny 5:6 TD:INT ratio. Would Griffin be doing any better? No idea. But I wouldn't say Kirk has done anything that qualifies as "successful" this season. Not screw up the Rams and Eagles game? Sure, he's done that.
:lmao:

What's sad is that's pretty successful for a Washington QB.

 
The fact that Kirk cousins is now successfully leading the redskins offense is all you need to know about rg3.
I don't know if you've watched any Redskins games this year, but I wouldn't say Kirk is successfully leading the offense. An offense that is 25th in PPG and Kirk has a shiny 5:6 TD:INT ratio. Would Griffin be doing any better? No idea. But I wouldn't say Kirk has done anything that qualifies as "successful" this season. Not screw up the Rams and Eagles game? Sure, he's done that.
I'm not saying cousins is a world beater. I think he sucks. But yes he is doing a better job of moving that offense on the field than rg3 has since his rookie year. Indisputable.

 
The fact that Kirk cousins is now successfully leading the redskins offense is all you need to know about rg3.
I don't know if you've watched any Redskins games this year, but I wouldn't say Kirk is successfully leading the offense. An offense that is 25th in PPG and Kirk has a shiny 5:6 TD:INT ratio. Would Griffin be doing any better? No idea. But I wouldn't say Kirk has done anything that qualifies as "successful" this season. Not screw up the Rams and Eagles game? Sure, he's done that.
I'm not saying cousins is a world beater. I think he sucks. But yes he is doing a better job of moving that offense on the field than rg3 has since his rookie year. Indisputable.
Compared to Griffin of 2014, yes Cousins has been better. But even Griffin in 2013 was moving the offense.

 
Says the guy perennially known as the dirtiest player in the league when he played.
who cares that he was the known as the dirtiest player in the league.
Right. Given the link in the post above yours, people should probably be more concerned with the fact that he likely simply doesn't know WTF he is talking about.

 
Picked him up off waivers because of rumors he might be scooped up by Philly. I dont think that is a realistic option but I do think Cleveland and Houston are sensible. With plenty of time to get that knee back to full strength plus a year to mature and humble himself, I could see a situation where Robert becomes a viable option for fantasy owners. His tenure with Washington was dreadful but I dont think he should be written off yet. Thoughts?

 
Picked him up off waivers because of rumors he might be scooped up by Philly. I dont think that is a realistic option but I do think Cleveland and Houston are sensible. With plenty of time to get that knee back to full strength plus a year to mature and humble himself, I could see a situation where Robert becomes a viable option for fantasy owners. His tenure with Washington was dreadful but I dont think he should be written off yet. Thoughts?
I expect him to get a chance to start somewhere but I can't think of any QB's who had careers like Griffin (high draft pick, great rookie year, benched for a whole season) and were successful long-term.

 
I think he can bounce back in some way. Has to be the right coach/system. If Tyrod Taylor is a starting QB in the NFL, RG3 can be one.

 
Picked him up off waivers because of rumors he might be scooped up by Philly. I dont think that is a realistic option but I do think Cleveland and Houston are sensible. With plenty of time to get that knee back to full strength plus a year to mature and humble himself, I could see a situation where Robert becomes a viable option for fantasy owners. His tenure with Washington was dreadful but I dont think he should be written off yet. Thoughts?
I expect him to get a chance to start somewhere but I can't think of any QB's who had careers like Griffin (high draft pick, great rookie year, benched for a whole season) and were successful long-term.
This is about where I'm at too. I picked him up off the WW and stashed him in 3 leagues when the original owner dropped him. These are 12x28 leagues though, so rosters are fairly deep. I usually don't like stashing QBs in 1QB leagues and I agree that RG3 is a long shot, but we've at least seen that he has top 5 upside IF he hits. Even if the odds of him returning to that form are long, he's still a decent stash to me when compared to what else is available in leagues that roster 320-330 offensive players.

 
RGIII to the Rams is just the perfect way to end the Rams Redskin trade

its a made for hollywood story Literally

He'll be given the opportunity to start some where next year and is worth a roster spot to me Which RG shows up who knows

Houston

Browns

Rams

49ers draft a qb ?

eagles / Bradford

Jest fitz 33 yo - geno

Bills tyrod

cards/chiefs/boys/phins backup/future

 
Wherever he ends up, I wish him well and hope he has the career I think he is capable of. I really feel he got screwed over pretty badly in DC.

 
I agree with that. I'd love to see him resurface in New Orleans and learn from a true pro like Brees. He needs to go somewhere that gives him a total reintroduction to the pro game. Washington was a #### show. I'd love to see what McCarthy, Belichick, Payton, or Carroll could do with him. The very best place for him would be Seattle. But that isn't likely to happen.

 
He will never start unless it's due to injury or the guy ahead of him also can't read defenses.

For a team that has a great defense and a strong running game, you could design an offense similar to the one he ran in 2012. Inevitably he would still get hurt running that system so he's worthless to the pro game.

 
I think he can bounce back in some way. Has to be the right coach/system. If Tyrod Taylor is a starting QB in the NFL, RG3 can be one.
I own Taylor in dynasty, hate the team he's on being coached by Rex the idiot and being in poor weather conditions come playoff time but I can't imagine cutting him and going with Bob.

 
He will never start unless it's due to injury or the guy ahead of him also can't read defenses.

For a team that has a great defense and a strong running game, you could design an offense similar to the one he ran in 2012. Inevitably he would still get hurt running that system so he's worthless to the pro game.
Snap!

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
DallasDMac said:
Wherever he ends up, I wish him well and hope he has the career I think he is capable of. I really feel he got screwed over pretty badly in DC.
:lmao:

How did he get screwed again? Cause he was his worst enemy.
My opinion of him obviously differs from yours. I think under Gruden, he was never really given a chance. Gruden put a target on RGIIIs back, threw him under the bus every chance he got, and never gave RGIII a real chance to prove himself like he did with Cousins. So yes, I feel he got screwed. Yes, I think he still has a ton of potential. And I hope he does well.

 
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STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
DallasDMac said:
Wherever he ends up, I wish him well and hope he has the career I think he is capable of. I really feel he got screwed over pretty badly in DC.
:lmao: How did he get screwed again? Cause he was his worst enemy.
My opinion of him obviously differs from yours. I think under Gruden, he was never really given a chance. Gruden put a target on RGIIIs back, threw him under the bus every chance he got, and never gave RGIII a real chance to prove himself like he did with Cousins. So yes, I feel he got screwed. Yes, I think he still has a ton of potential. And I hope he does well.
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STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
DallasDMac said:
Wherever he ends up, I wish him well and hope he has the career I think he is capable of. I really feel he got screwed over pretty badly in DC.
:lmao: How did he get screwed again? Cause he was his worst enemy.
My opinion of him obviously differs from yours. I think under Gruden, he was never really given a chance. Gruden put a target on RGIIIs back, threw him under the bus every chance he got, and never gave RGIII a real chance to prove himself like he did with Cousins. So yes, I feel he got screwed. Yes, I think he still has a ton of potential. And I hope he does well.
Why do you think that is? RGIII has a much stronger arm. He's faster then Kirk, even post injuries. The owner obviously likes him.

Gotta be a reason, what was it?

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
DallasDMac said:
Wherever he ends up, I wish him well and hope he has the career I think he is capable of. I really feel he got screwed over pretty badly in DC.
:lmao: How did he get screwed again? Cause he was his worst enemy.
My opinion of him obviously differs from yours. I think under Gruden, he was never really given a chance. Gruden put a target on RGIIIs back, threw him under the bus every chance he got, and never gave RGIII a real chance to prove himself like he did with Cousins. So yes, I feel he got screwed. Yes, I think he still has a ton of potential. And I hope he does well.
Why do you think that is? RGIII has a much stronger arm. He's faster then Kirk, even post injuries. The owner obviously likes him.

Gotta be a reason, what was it?
You'd have to ask Gruden.

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
DallasDMac said:
Wherever he ends up, I wish him well and hope he has the career I think he is capable of. I really feel he got screwed over pretty badly in DC.
:lmao: How did he get screwed again? Cause he was his worst enemy.
My opinion of him obviously differs from yours. I think under Gruden, he was never really given a chance. Gruden put a target on RGIIIs back, threw him under the bus every chance he got, and never gave RGIII a real chance to prove himself like he did with Cousins. So yes, I feel he got screwed. Yes, I think he still has a ton of potential. And I hope he does well.
Why do you think that is? RGIII has a much stronger arm. He's faster then Kirk, even post injuries. The owner obviously likes him.Gotta be a reason, what was it?
You'd have to ask Gruden.
It was a rhetorical question as Gruden was asked. He went on a 20 minute explanation on how awful a QB RGIII really is.

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
DallasDMac said:
Wherever he ends up, I wish him well and hope he has the career I think he is capable of. I really feel he got screwed over pretty badly in DC.
:lmao: How did he get screwed again? Cause he was his worst enemy.
My opinion of him obviously differs from yours. I think under Gruden, he was never really given a chance. Gruden put a target on RGIIIs back, threw him under the bus every chance he got, and never gave RGIII a real chance to prove himself like he did with Cousins. So yes, I feel he got screwed. Yes, I think he still has a ton of potential. And I hope he does well.
Why do you think that is? RGIII has a much stronger arm. He's faster then Kirk, even post injuries. The owner obviously likes him.Gotta be a reason, what was it?
You'd have to ask Gruden.
It was a rhetorical question as Gruden was asked. He went on a 20 minute explanation on how awful a QB RGIII really is.
And Gruden's team pretty much tanked after that since he was throwing players under the bus to deflect blame from himself.

Gruden himself did a crappy job last year, which is why so much help was brought it this year -- new GM, new QB coach, new O-line coach. All those hires improved the job Gruden did, and he's been better this year. Cousins has improved all year as well. Gruden doesn't rip anyone publicly now and he's not spread so thin. Griffin never had much of a chance with Gruden, and never will. I hope each of them do well going forward.

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
He will never start unless it's due to injury or the guy ahead of him also can't read defenses.

For a team that has a great defense and a strong running game, you could design an offense similar to the one he ran in 2012. Inevitably he would still get hurt running that system so he's worthless to the pro game.
:goodposting:

 
Considering the play, leadership and age of Fitzpatrick as well as the stellar job done by Gailey and the steady presence of Bowles I would love to see the Jets dump Geno and sign RGIII as a backup next year.

It would give the Jets a cheap flyer that might turn into the long term answer they have to keep looking for and I think the Gailey and Bowles mantra of adjusting the schemes to what your players do well plus the suddenly stable environment and veteran QB to learn under would be a great fit for RGIII.

 
Considering the play, leadership and age of Fitzpatrick as well as the stellar job done by Gailey and the steady presence of Bowles I would love to see the Jets dump Geno and sign RGIII as a backup next year.

It would give the Jets a cheap flyer that might turn into the long term answer they have to keep looking for and I think the Gailey and Bowles mantra of adjusting the schemes to what your players do well plus the suddenly stable environment and veteran QB to learn under would be a great fit for RGIII.
That would actually be a really intriguing fit for Griffin. Great reasoning here.

 

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