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*** Official SF 49ers 2015 thread *** Chip Kelly new HC (1 Viewer)
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Wingnut
Footballguy
I could get on board with this.
drummer
Footballguy
huckshucks would want Eddie back, not realizing that he screwed the team up so bad post salary cap era that all he left behind were tires burning, and Carmen Policy.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Sounds about right.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Wingnut must have a lot of patience... Is he the only regular in this thread who doesn't have Drummer on ignore?
On another note, I'd like to drop an atomic bomb on the Super Bowl. Since I have no choice, I guess I root for the Patriots.
On another note, I'd like to drop an atomic bomb on the Super Bowl. Since I have no choice, I guess I root for the Patriots.
Wingnut
Footballguy
^lol
As far as the SB goes, no way in hell would I ever root for Seattle (or any other NFC west team for that matter) in a Super Bowl.
As much as I'm sick of seeing New England in the hunt year after year, I'd rather root for Brady to join the 4 ring club than see Carroll and company win a 2nd.
As far as the SB goes, no way in hell would I ever root for Seattle (or any other NFC west team for that matter) in a Super Bowl.
As much as I'm sick of seeing New England in the hunt year after year, I'd rather root for Brady to join the 4 ring club than see Carroll and company win a 2nd.
DepthCharts
Footballguy
no worse than your most hated team hoisting a 2nd trophy when you all thought you had a chance?
or no worse than Tom Brady being crowned as CLEARLY the greatest QB to ever live? (Joe who?)
You get one of those 2 emotions Feb 1 about 8pm. Go ahead and pick which you would desire.
Wingnut
Footballguy
I'm not 100% on this, but I'm pretty sure Cap isn't a 49er fan, I think he was just chiming in on the dismal situation...its so bad, fans from other teams are coming here to see for themselves. Lol
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
DepthCharts
Footballguy
hehe, my fault. no direct offense meant to Cap by any stretch, in fact I shouldn't have quoted him per se, just the "it literally gets no worse than that" i was intending to quote.I'm not 100% on this, but I'm pretty sure Cap isn't a 49er fan, I think he was just chiming in on the dismal situation...its so bad, fans from other teams are coming here to see for themselves. Lol
Wingnut
Footballguy
I have to agree with him on this though...while the sting of getting knocked out of the playoffs is long gone, we now have to live with this new mess for a while...Sigh...from Nolan/Singletary era to the Harbaugh era of hope to this...talk about backsliding...the only positive is we know this team can win with the players we have, we just have to wait and see if the new staff can get them to produce and play like they're capable of.hehe, my fault. no direct offense meant to Cap by any stretch, in fact I shouldn't have quoted him per se, just the "it literally gets no worse than that" i was intending to quote.I'm not 100% on this, but I'm pretty sure Cap isn't a 49er fan, I think he was just chiming in on the dismal situation...its so bad, fans from other teams are coming here to see for themselves. Lol
It feels dirty being a 49er fan right now.
drummer
Footballguy
Making me one of your many obsessions here at FBG kinda makes many think you really need a life.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Is Fangio a stud or just good at utilizing talent when he has it?
drummer
Footballguy
Brady is a hometown Bay Area boy who grew up 49er fan and idolized Montana. He was 4 years old at the Stick when he saw The Catch.
I dunno what the "most hated team" is, since the 49ers were established in 1946.
drummer
Footballguy
drummer
Footballguy
The SF Giants won 3 World Series in the span of 5 years. I'm good for a long while.I have to agree with him on this though...while the sting of getting knocked out of the playoffs is long gone, we now have to live with this new mess for a while...Sigh...from Nolan/Singletary era to the Harbaugh era of hope to this...talk about backsliding...the only positive is we know this team can win with the players we have, we just have to wait and see if the new staff can get them to produce and play like they're capable of.hehe, my fault. no direct offense meant to Cap by any stretch, in fact I shouldn't have quoted him per se, just the "it literally gets no worse than that" i was intending to quote.I'm not 100% on this, but I'm pretty sure Cap isn't a 49er fan, I think he was just chiming in on the dismal situation...its so bad, fans from other teams are coming here to see for themselves. Lol
It feels dirty being a 49er fan right now.
drummer
Footballguy
The 49ers still had a top 5 defense with a lot of holes and injuries, and with that, he still can scheme his way around it. His first season as DC, the 49ers had one of the best - if not the best - TO ratios, giveaway/takeaway in the league.
A real barometer of how much impact he had will be weighed on his replacement. If the 49ers fall to middle tier ranks on defense, or even just a few steps below, it's pretty much a non playoff season.
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drummer
Footballguy
drummer
Footballguy
5Rings
Lurker
Yeah, this might be the dumbest post in this entire thread....wow.Congrats, this is the dumbest post I've read today, excellent work
5Rings
Lurker
Drummer is good with me. He almost remembers the pre-glory days
fwiw, please drop the bomb.
drummer
Footballguy
Lol. Hey man, I've sat in Lon Simmons' seats many times - due to a friend of mine who is closely related to him - ate Oysters Rockefeller with Bob St. Clair and RC Owens, and met a lot of other 49er alumni at the alum parking lot tailgate pre-game tailgate parties.Drummer is good with me. He almost remembers the pre-glory days
fwiw, please drop the bomb.
Now, you can't even drag me to craphole Santa Clara.
flapgreen
Footballguy
As a Bears fan, I'm thankful for Elway and York.
Spin
Footballguy
I've got no problem with Drummer. Aside from the apparent bitterness, he's pretty knowledgeable in 49ers history. He doesn't seem to troll just for the sake of trolling within this thread. Debating with him is exhausting if you disagree with his point.Drummer is good with me. He almost remembers the pre-glory days
fwiw, please drop the bomb.
We always do a superbowl party at the house, but this year we're thinking of doing an anti-superbowl party and playing life-size Jenga outside instead,
drummer
Footballguy
No word on an OC or DC yet from Jed, but it looks like they have found a ST's coach for coach Hedgehog Soup:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/21/special-teams-coach-brad-seely-jumps-from-49ers-to-raiders/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/21/special-teams-coach-brad-seely-jumps-from-49ers-to-raiders/
drummer
Footballguy
I plan to make a few Dump Jed t-shirts in the near future. Anybody who wants one, PM me your t-shirt size and info. I'm not kidding either.
ETA: thin skinned Boy Blunder hates criticism even more than his Mommy does, and it forces him to make stupid decisions due to he being a thin skinned idiot Boy Blunder. More derision from a fanbase should end Boy Blunder's reign quicker, after they find out how he will try to maneuver out of Santa Clara for Los Angeles, or worse, London, since Daddy is on that NFL committee.
ETA: thin skinned Boy Blunder hates criticism even more than his Mommy does, and it forces him to make stupid decisions due to he being a thin skinned idiot Boy Blunder. More derision from a fanbase should end Boy Blunder's reign quicker, after they find out how he will try to maneuver out of Santa Clara for Los Angeles, or worse, London, since Daddy is on that NFL committee.
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BaBastage
Footballguy
Plausible. The part I of the equation I'm blind to is that one would think a winning teams make ownership a lot more money than a few million dollars than a bottom feeding teams.
More ticket sales, more concession sales, more merchandise sales, doesn't that stuff add up?
They say insanity is doing the same things over and over again but expecting different results. Unless something's changed, why should anyone expect different results than what was going on pre-Harbaugh?
drummer
Footballguy
Well, the Yorks are from Youngstown, Ohio. Denise really doesn't want anything to do with the franchise, other than make sure it meets the bottom line. The Yorks never connected with the San Francisco elite like Eddie had. They are not anything San Francisco in the least. They still call Youngstown home. They never understood the old fanbase, and once they whittled away due to they burning the team into the ground, that's when they decided to bring Jed into the fold, brand him "Uncle Eddie", and made him go door to door in Santa Clara for the stadium push.
The Yorks still had a $400 million bond from Eddie greasing former Mayor Willie Brown to get that pushed through, even with dead voters. That measure only passed because it was a mixed use project, with a mall attached. Eddie built a failed Rodeo Drive sort of indoor downtown mall in Palm Springs, CA, and had then PS City Manager Norm King in his back pocket to develop it. Eddie gave King free tickets all the time, and today, half of that mall is being torn down, almost all of within in a few years.
John York blames Gavin Newsome for not taking his phone calls, thus deciding to move to Santa Clara. Newsome was Feinstien and Boxer's Golden Boy, the future of the Democratic Party, and along with his former wife Kim Guilfoyle - now ironically with Fox News - the New Camelot. The $400 million dollar bond was pretty much worthless at that time, That's about how much it would cost build a mall covering a few city blocks like the failed one in Palm Springs in today's dollars, and we are also talking Bay Area real estate market prices of the same day. That whole stadium project was doomed from the beginning, and there was no way Newsome would spend any local political clout to give anything to the Yorks.
Remember, San Francisco almost lost the Giants, until private investors came into play. Private investment is building the new Warriors arena as well.
The bottom line was the Yorks were too cash poor to build a stadium in SF, had no political allies, and they only way to get one built was a land grab in Santa Clara, with Silicon Valley allies that Gideon Yu brought. Now all Jed had to do was bring a coach like Harbaugh in - after they screwing it up once more with Mike Singletary - and promised that Baalke would be able to work with him. Harbaugh was in the backyard, so it wasn't like they went out and made a genius hire. It served well for Harbaugh, and once he turned the franchise around, everybody else puffed their chests, especially Jed.
Then, the reality came that everybody else outside of Harbaugh didn't know anything on how to run a football franchise. Levis is flawed, in a horrible location, and held a host of problems. Santa Clara is primed to take a bath on the whole thing, will have to raise taxes in a small city, and it will cost them big time. It really doesn't have the infrastructure to host a large event like the Super Bowl.
If you took away the San Francisco part of the 49ers, and called them the San Jose 49ers, the value would drop like a stone, even with Harbaugh. What the Yorks are trying to do is create their own brand of 49er football, and it fails miserably every time. Of course they will have conflicts with those who know football. They have no clue of it, are too petty and spineless to admit it, and rather fire Harbaugh to spite those who know this.
Every move you see coming from Jed today is out of pure spite. No one wants to go near this toxic mess. Jed's Silicon Valley partners don't see a long return on investment, just the quick dollar, and once it sells for wheat pennies, they could wind up buying the franchise from underneath the Yorks.
The dollars and sense aren't in the long return, but rather in the short con.
drummer
Footballguy
Paulymaggs
Footballguy
You reap what you sow in terms of the grief that you get from other posters around here, but this is a pretty damn good summary of the real situation.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
is there some great QB coming out that SF is tanking for in the 2016 draft? Mangini? some guy with a porn stash as the HC?
Is the Lane Kiffin thing real?? wow
Is the Lane Kiffin thing real?? wow
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
The CEO is just a young arrogant ######## who has empowered Trent Baalke and collectively they're destroying the team.Fairly confident 4-6 wins is in the cards and a comfortable spot at the bottom of the NFC West awaits.
ETA: Baalke will be the fall guy in about 2 years of Raideresque football.
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I can't believe ######## is filtered.
Spin
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
So Ellinton seemed poised for a bigger role on offense going forward, but with all the upheaval and a new coaching staff, what do you guys think is in the cards for him?
Wingnut
Footballguy
At this point, your guess is as good as ours.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Braktastic
Footballguy
Honestly with Boldin's and Kaepernick's raw playmaking skills, they may be better off just letting Kaep draw plays up in the dirt in the huddle. Just need a burner for the go routes.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Wait, did they hire someone? I didn't see anything yet...
No but Chudzinski is staying in Indy leaving the Niners with exactly 0 qualified candidates
