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[The Z Machine]

Atlético pulls out yet another won at home, and now sit only 8 points back from Barça. Loos like Falcao pulled a hammy and might be out for a little while. They have a midweek game in the copa del rey against Betis, but have a 2-0 lead and are playing defense quite well right now. Next WE is against Athletic, so that's a much bigger match.What happened with my favorite Catalan team this week? Started one to many CBs? Shoulda played with 10 midfielders.

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Could happen, could happen. Maybe Torres heads back home and Atlético pockets 30m€.

You don't want that.

Probably not based on the form that I've seen him in, but I still hold out hope that he can regain his skill is put in the right place.

 

[The Gator]

Crazy Group C match in the African Nations Cup. Ethiopia missed a penalty, had their keeper red carded and carried off on a stretcher after a ridiculous karate kick,

I did not see the first half. Is this to mean the keeper hurt himself while getting red carded for a karate kick?

Either that or he faked injury in an attempt to gain the official's sympathy. Or maybe something else entirely. It is African football after all.

This really made me laughGiving a guy on a stretcher a red card

 

[NewlyRetired]

The Germans are deep enough that they are still likely to bring a team that will give the US an excellent warmup before the two summer qualifiers

German stars may miss U.S. tour to restJanuary 21, 2013RECOMMEND0TWEET0EMAILPRINTBy Press AssociationGermany coach Joachim Low says any player involved in the DFB Cup or Champions League finals will be excused from a postseason tour of the USA.Germany heads to the United States at the end of May to play friendly matches against Ecuador, in Miami on May 29, and the U.S., in Washington on June 2.The trip comes just days after the Champions League final in London and only a week after the league Cup final in Berlin, and Low does not want to overburden any of those players involved."We will leave out players who are in the cup or Champions League final, and maybe also players from foreign leagues," he said at a meeting of top-flight coaches in Dusseldorf on Monday."Many players have had short breaks in recent years and severely shortened preseasons, which was not ideal," he added.His announcement was greeted by Borussia Dortmund coach Jurgen Klopp, whose side is still in the hunt for a place in both finals."It's the right and also an important decision," he said. "We are all quick to make demands of the lads, but they also need the time to recover, which is why I am very grateful to the Germany coach that he wants to give the players this time."

 

[NewlyRetired]

Looks like the Shea to Stoke rumors were a bit premature but at least he gets what appears to be a trial with them. Seems like they are fully aware of his issues. I think Shea's upside is huge if he can get his head on straight and stay healthy.

Tony Pulis will decide at the end of the week whether to press ahead with plans to pay £2 million for USA international Brek Shea.The Stoke City manager is considering another move into the American market after the successful signing of Geoff Cameron in the summer and has invited Shea to spend a week with training with the club.Pulis is also considering setting up a friendly this week to give the left-sided midfielder a game at the Britannia Stadium - before he considers concluding a deal with FC Dallas for the 22-year-old.Shea was on the radar of Arsenal and Fulham over a year ago, but is currently recovering from a major foot operation and needs to prove his fitness.Pulis has been aware of Shea for some time and said: "About a year ago he was being touted as the next great thing in America, but fell off the rails a bit."I watched him play in France a year ago for America, so this is another chance to have a look at him."Shea had a similar trial at Arsenal 14 months ago, but an operation to have a bone removed from his right foot has held up his progress and chances of making it into the Premier League.The player is represented by Potteries-based solicitors Beswicks and their former employee, Mark Cartwright, was recently appointed as head of Stoke's scouting network.Pulis was recently asked by chairman Peter Coates to trim his squad, before adding any new players in the January window, but has become a fan of the value for money available in the American market.Cameron has made a huge impact and become his first choice right back, since his arrival in the summer and Pulis has been impressed with the levels of fitness and professionalism in the US game.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Atlético pulls out yet another won at home, and now sit only 8 points back from Barça. Loos like Falcao pulled a hammy and might be out for a little while. They have a midweek game in the copa del rey against Betis, but have a 2-0 lead and are playing defense quite well right now. Next WE is against Athletic, so that's a much bigger match.What happened with my favorite Catalan team this week? Started one to many CBs? Shoulda played with 10 midfielders.

My link

Could happen, could happen. Maybe Torres heads back home and Atlético pockets 30m€.

You don't want that.

Probably not based on the form that I've seen him in, but I still hold out hope that he can regain his skill is put in the right place.

He's playing with some pretty awesome creative midfielders this year. If the right place isn't playing with Hazard and Mata, what is it?Speaking of players going to and fro from Spain and England, ManU is apparently eyeing Valdes and Reina. Barca's list is Reina, De Gea, Courtois (on loan to Atletico from Chelsea), Ter Stegen, and Fernandez (Osasuna).

 

[The Z Machine]

Courtois has been pretty dang good for Atleti this year. I've been hoping that the success they're having will allow them to pull him away from Chels long term. Not sure that will be possible, but it would be a real coup. Perhaps his buyout clause is low enough, but it really comes down to him wanting to stay in Madrid and work with Simeone.Valdes is better than Reina, and De Gea has more upside than both.As for Torres, I think that he plays best with a striking partner that's fast and quick, combined with a midfield that will feel him through balls and crosses in the box that he can finish. He's lost some quickness, but I think most of his problems are mental.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Courtois' acrobatic saves for Athletico have spawned a meme - "Thibauting": http://thibauting.tumblr.com/

this kind of stuff: Courtois

I think Torres still has world class talent. His issues seem psychological to me. Off the ball he seems almost bored and unfocused, frequently looks to pass first in the box and has an uncanny ability to shoot directly at the keeper when presented with a sitter. Rafa's support for him is not helping with the fans. The team looks significantly more dynamic and dangerous with Ba out there. I've no idea what Chelsea's plan is, but would love to seem them offload Torres salary, find a decent second striker and look for a replacement for Lampard in the pivot - for which the current rumors include Felaini and Benat. I would not want to lose Courtois under any circumstances, including anything involving Falcao.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Courtois' acrobatic saves for Athletico have spawned a meme - "Thibauting": http://thibauting.tumblr.com/this kind of stuff: CourtoisI think Torres still has world class talent. His issues seem psychological to me. Off the ball he seems almost bored and unfocused, frequently looks to pass first in the box and has an uncanny ability to shoot directly at the keeper when presented with a sitter. Rafa's support for him is not helping with the fans. The team looks significantly more dynamic and dangerous with Ba out there. I've no idea what Chelsea's plan is, but would love to seem them offload Torres salary, find a decent second striker and look for a replacement for Lampard in the pivot - for which the current rumors include Felaini and Benat. I would not want to lose Courtois under any circumstances, including anything involving Falcao.

He's my keeper in Football Manager.

 

[jonessed]

Courtois has been pretty dang good for Atleti this year. I've been hoping that the success they're having will allow them to pull him away from Chels long term. Not sure that will be possible, but it would be a real coup. Perhaps his buyout clause is low enough, but it really comes down to him wanting to stay in Madrid and work with Simeone.Valdes is better than Reina, and De Gea has more upside than both.As for Torres, I think that he plays best with a striking partner that's fast and quick, combined with a midfield that will feel him through balls and crosses in the box that he can finish. He's lost some quickness, but I think most of his problems are mental.

De Gea's reflexes are fantastic, but he has a very weak physical presence, which is a big problem in the EPL He doesnt seem to be improving in that aspect either.It must drive United fans nuts. I really expected them to have figured this out by now.I also think Torres' problems are largely mental. A change of venue might be just what he needs.

 

[dparker713]

Courtois has been pretty dang good for Atleti this year. I've been hoping that the success they're having will allow them to pull him away from Chels long term. Not sure that will be possible, but it would be a real coup. Perhaps his buyout clause is low enough, but it really comes down to him wanting to stay in Madrid and work with Simeone.Valdes is better than Reina, and De Gea has more upside than both.As for Torres, I think that he plays best with a striking partner that's fast and quick, combined with a midfield that will feel him through balls and crosses in the box that he can finish. He's lost some quickness, but I think most of his problems are mental.

De Gea's reflexes are fantastic, but he has a very weak physical presence, which is a big problem in the EPL He doesnt seem to be improving in that aspect either.It must drive United fans nuts. I really expected them to have figured this out by now.I also think Torres' problems are largely mental. A change of venue might be just what he needs.

Also, given Barca's general lack of aerial ability, having a keeper who's main flaw is defending crosses might be an issue.

 

[El Floppo]

Courtois has been pretty dang good for Atleti this year. I've been hoping that the success they're having will allow them to pull him away from Chels long term. Not sure that will be possible, but it would be a real coup. Perhaps his buyout clause is low enough, but it really comes down to him wanting to stay in Madrid and work with Simeone.Valdes is better than Reina, and De Gea has more upside than both.As for Torres, I think that he plays best with a striking partner that's fast and quick, combined with a midfield that will feel him through balls and crosses in the box that he can finish. He's lost some quickness, but I think most of his problems are mental.

De Gea's reflexes are fantastic, but he has a very weak physical presence, which is a big problem in the EPL He doesnt seem to be improving in that aspect either.It must drive United fans nuts. I really expected them to have figured this out by now.I also think Torres' problems are largely mental. A change of venue might be just what he needs.

IMO, it's less the physcial side with De Gea and more the experience side. His timing and decision making on crosses isn't there yet (like I mentioned about Howard recently). Will it help if he gets stronger? Sure. But not if he can't get the other parts down. And with Howard, it took a few years to get there- De Gea will be fine.

 

[Slapdash]

Atlético pulls out yet another won at home, and now sit only 8 points back from Barça. Loos like Falcao pulled a hammy and might be out for a little while. They have a midweek game in the copa del rey against Betis, but have a 2-0 lead and are playing defense quite well right now. Next WE is against Athletic, so that's a much bigger match.What happened with my favorite Catalan team this week? Started one to many CBs? Shoulda played with 10 midfielders.

My link

Could happen, could happen. Maybe Torres heads back home and Atlético pockets 30m€.

You don't want that.

Probably not based on the form that I've seen him in, but I still hold out hope that he can regain his skill is put in the right place.

He's playing with some pretty awesome creative midfielders this year. If the right place isn't playing with Hazard and Mata, what is it?Speaking of players going to and fro from Spain and England, ManU is apparently eyeing Valdes and Reina. Barca's list is Reina, De Gea, Courtois (on loan to Atletico from Chelsea), Ter Stegen, and Fernandez (Osasuna).

Courtois would be an excellent addition.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Courtois' acrobatic saves for Athletico have spawned a meme - "Thibauting": http://thibauting.tumblr.com/this kind of stuff: CourtoisI think Torres still has world class talent. His issues seem psychological to me. Off the ball he seems almost bored and unfocused, frequently looks to pass first in the box and has an uncanny ability to shoot directly at the keeper when presented with a sitter. Rafa's support for him is not helping with the fans. The team looks significantly more dynamic and dangerous with Ba out there. I've no idea what Chelsea's plan is, but would love to seem them offload Torres salary, find a decent second striker and look for a replacement for Lampard in the pivot - for which the current rumors include Felaini and Benat. I would not want to lose Courtois under any circumstances, including anything involving Falcao.

He might not be amenable to staying on ice when he could be sold to an elite club and get their #1 job. Chances like that don't come up often.Chelsea has him under contract until Summer of 2016, btw.

 

[The Z Machine]

Courtois' acrobatic saves for Athletico have spawned a meme - "Thibauting": http://thibauting.tumblr.com/this kind of stuff: CourtoisI think Torres still has world class talent. His issues seem psychological to me. Off the ball he seems almost bored and unfocused, frequently looks to pass first in the box and has an uncanny ability to shoot directly at the keeper when presented with a sitter. Rafa's support for him is not helping with the fans. The team looks significantly more dynamic and dangerous with Ba out there. I've no idea what Chelsea's plan is, but would love to seem them offload Torres salary, find a decent second striker and look for a replacement for Lampard in the pivot - for which the current rumors include Felaini and Benat. I would not want to lose Courtois under any circumstances, including anything involving Falcao.

When you say lose, do you mean from Atleti, or Chelski? You wouldn't move Courtois and Torres for Falco if you were managing Chels?

 

[The Z Machine]

Oh and I might have to Thibaut with my Atlético ball and jersey at some point. Thanks for that.

 

[The Z Machine]

Atlético pulls out yet another won at home, and now sit only 8 points back from Barça. Loos like Falcao pulled a hammy and might be out for a little while. They have a midweek game in the copa del rey against Betis, but have a 2-0 lead and are playing defense quite well right now. Next WE is against Athletic, so that's a much bigger match.What happened with my favorite Catalan team this week? Started one to many CBs? Shoulda played with 10 midfielders.

My link

Could happen, could happen. Maybe Torres heads back home and Atlético pockets 30m€.

You don't want that.

Probably not based on the form that I've seen him in, but I still hold out hope that he can regain his skill is put in the right place.

He's playing with some pretty awesome creative midfielders this year. If the right place isn't playing with Hazard and Mata, what is it?Speaking of players going to and fro from Spain and England, ManU is apparently eyeing Valdes and Reina. Barca's list is Reina, De Gea, Courtois (on loan to Atletico from Chelsea), Ter Stegen, and Fernandez (Osasuna).

Courtois would be an excellent addition.

There would be some BAD blood there if he got sold to Barça.

 

[The Z Machine]

BTW, Iker's reactions and quickness are better than both Courtois and De Gea.

 

[jonessed]

Courtois has been pretty dang good for Atleti this year. I've been hoping that the success they're having will allow them to pull him away from Chels long term. Not sure that will be possible, but it would be a real coup. Perhaps his buyout clause is low enough, but it really comes down to him wanting to stay in Madrid and work with Simeone.Valdes is better than Reina, and De Gea has more upside than both.As for Torres, I think that he plays best with a striking partner that's fast and quick, combined with a midfield that will feel him through balls and crosses in the box that he can finish. He's lost some quickness, but I think most of his problems are mental.

De Gea's reflexes are fantastic, but he has a very weak physical presence, which is a big problem in the EPL He doesnt seem to be improving in that aspect either.It must drive United fans nuts. I really expected them to have figured this out by now.I also think Torres' problems are largely mental. A change of venue might be just what he needs.

IMO, it's less the physcial side with De Gea and more the experience side. His timing and decision making on crosses isn't there yet (like I mentioned about Howard recently). Will it help if he gets stronger? Sure. But not if he can't get the other parts down. And with Howard, it took a few years to get there- De Gea will be fine.

I didn't mean his actual physical size, although that's part of it. He is not at all comfortable with getting bumped, pushed, hit, etc. so he makes poor/weak decisions in traffic.I'm not confident he will be fine and I don't think it's just related to experience. It's a mental aspect of the game that he is clearly struggling with and has made little improvement on in the 1-1/2 years he has spent with United. I imagine Ferguson will give him another year to prove himself, but being forced to rotate with Lindegaard can't be helping his confidence.

 

[jonessed]

Courtois has been pretty dang good for Atleti this year. I've been hoping that the success they're having will allow them to pull him away from Chels long term. Not sure that will be possible, but it would be a real coup. Perhaps his buyout clause is low enough, but it really comes down to him wanting to stay in Madrid and work with Simeone.Valdes is better than Reina, and De Gea has more upside than both.As for Torres, I think that he plays best with a striking partner that's fast and quick, combined with a midfield that will feel him through balls and crosses in the box that he can finish. He's lost some quickness, but I think most of his problems are mental.

De Gea's reflexes are fantastic, but he has a very weak physical presence, which is a big problem in the EPL He doesnt seem to be improving in that aspect either.It must drive United fans nuts. I really expected them to have figured this out by now.I also think Torres' problems are largely mental. A change of venue might be just what he needs.

IMO, it's less the physcial side with De Gea and more the experience side. His timing and decision making on crosses isn't there yet (like I mentioned about Howard recently). Will it help if he gets stronger? Sure. But not if he can't get the other parts down. And with Howard, it took a few years to get there- De Gea will be fine.

I didn't mean his actual physical size, although that's part of it. He is not at all comfortable with getting bumped, pushed, hit, etc. so he makes poor/weak decisions in traffic.I'm not confident he will be fine and I don't think it's just related to experience. It's a mental aspect of the game that he is clearly struggling with and has made little improvement on in the 1-1/2 years he has spent with United. He has made improvements in other areas, but not this one. I imagine Ferguson will give him another year to prove himself, but being forced to rotate with Lindegaard can't be helping his confidence.

 

[GoFishTN]

Loic Remy has claimed it was playing a game of “Fifa 2012” with QPR owner Tony Fernandes, rather than the chance to double his wages, that persuaded him to sign for the London club instead of Newcastle United.

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[Good Posting Judge]

BTW, Iker's reactions and quickness are better than both Courtois and De Gea.

Adan > Iker > Courtois > De GeaI'd rather see FCB go after someone young who's going to be a rock back there for the next 10-12 years. Courtois seems to fit that bill. De Gea, as was mentioned before, isn't a good fit for Barca given how poorly they defend crosses. They can't afford to not have another big guy back there to punch balls out. Being "good with your feet" can always be worked on/developed, but it shouldn't be the highest priority. I could see Chelsea leveraging AM and Barca against each other for Courtois. Mundo Deportivo lists a possible transfer fee at 20mm. I think selling Valdes would probably cover about half of that.

 

[El Floppo]

Courtois has been pretty dang good for Atleti this year. I've been hoping that the success they're having will allow them to pull him away from Chels long term. Not sure that will be possible, but it would be a real coup. Perhaps his buyout clause is low enough, but it really comes down to him wanting to stay in Madrid and work with Simeone.Valdes is better than Reina, and De Gea has more upside than both.As for Torres, I think that he plays best with a striking partner that's fast and quick, combined with a midfield that will feel him through balls and crosses in the box that he can finish. He's lost some quickness, but I think most of his problems are mental.

De Gea's reflexes are fantastic, but he has a very weak physical presence, which is a big problem in the EPL He doesnt seem to be improving in that aspect either.It must drive United fans nuts. I really expected them to have figured this out by now.I also think Torres' problems are largely mental. A change of venue might be just what he needs.

IMO, it's less the physcial side with De Gea and more the experience side. His timing and decision making on crosses isn't there yet (like I mentioned about Howard recently). Will it help if he gets stronger? Sure. But not if he can't get the other parts down. And with Howard, it took a few years to get there- De Gea will be fine.

I didn't mean his actual physical size, although that's part of it. He is not at all comfortable with getting bumped, pushed, hit, etc. so he makes poor/weak decisions in traffic.I'm not confident he will be fine and I don't think it's just related to experience. It's a mental aspect of the game that he is clearly struggling with and has made little improvement on in the 1-1/2 years he has spent with United. He has made improvements in other areas, but not this one. I imagine Ferguson will give him another year to prove himself, but being forced to rotate with Lindegaard can't be helping his confidence.

Maybe so- he does seem uncomfortable going into traffic to win the ball. Whether it's a fear of getting bumped or not having the timing down- who knows. But again, think of Timmy. His play at United was almost identical to De Gea (except Timmy had a lesser team in front of him) but turned things around after a couple of years. Of course, Sir Al shipped him out before that really happened.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Looks like the Shea deal has hit another snag as he did not report to Stoke today as expected. From reports it appears that Stoke and MLS are no where near close on the value of the player and as such Shea was blocked from the training/trial with Stoke.

 

[jonessed]

Courtois has been pretty dang good for Atleti this year. I've been hoping that the success they're having will allow them to pull him away from Chels long term. Not sure that will be possible, but it would be a real coup. Perhaps his buyout clause is low enough, but it really comes down to him wanting to stay in Madrid and work with Simeone.

Valdes is better than Reina, and De Gea has more upside than both.

As for Torres, I think that he plays best with a striking partner that's fast and quick, combined with a midfield that will feel him through balls and crosses in the box that he can finish. He's lost some quickness, but I think most of his problems are mental.

De Gea's reflexes are fantastic, but he has a very weak physical presence, which is a big problem in the EPL He doesnt seem to be improving in that aspect either.It must drive United fans nuts. I really expected them to have figured this out by now.

I also think Torres' problems are largely mental. A change of venue might be just what he needs.

IMO, it's less the physcial side with De Gea and more the experience side. His timing and decision making on crosses isn't there yet (like I mentioned about Howard recently). Will it help if he gets stronger? Sure. But not if he can't get the other parts down. And with Howard, it took a few years to get there- De Gea will be fine.

I didn't mean his actual physical size, although that's part of it. He is not at all comfortable with getting bumped, pushed, hit, etc. so he makes poor/weak decisions in traffic.I'm not confident he will be fine and I don't think it's just related to experience. It's a mental aspect of the game that he is clearly struggling with and has made little improvement on in the 1-1/2 years he has spent with United. He has made improvements in other areas, but not this one.

I imagine Ferguson will give him another year to prove himself, but being forced to rotate with Lindegaard can't be helping his confidence.

Maybe so- he does seem uncomfortable going into traffic to win the ball. Whether it's a fear of getting bumped or not having the timing down- who knows. But again, think of Timmy. His play at United was almost identical to De Gea (except Timmy had a lesser team in front of him) but turned things around after a couple of years. Of course, Sir Al shipped him out before that really happened.

United is a top club. Having a GK learn for two or three years on-the-job really isn't something they should be facilitating. You can rotate youth into other positions, but rotating goalkeepers is pretty dodgy. They clearly felt De Gea would adapt quicker. That being said, he is very good in other areas and United have already invested two years.They obviously saw something in De Gea they think they can develop. He's already an incredible shot-stopper. The Tottenham goal this weekend was his fault, but he made a few great saves before that.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Ivory Coast looked decent this morning against a game Togo side. IC won with a late Gervinho goal 2-1.

 

[Slapdash]

Atlético pulls out yet another won at home, and now sit only 8 points back from Barça. Loos like Falcao pulled a hammy and might be out for a little while. They have a midweek game in the copa del rey against Betis, but have a 2-0 lead and are playing defense quite well right now. Next WE is against Athletic, so that's a much bigger match.What happened with my favorite Catalan team this week? Started one to many CBs? Shoulda played with 10 midfielders.

My link

Could happen, could happen. Maybe Torres heads back home and Atlético pockets 30m€.

You don't want that.

Probably not based on the form that I've seen him in, but I still hold out hope that he can regain his skill is put in the right place.

He's playing with some pretty awesome creative midfielders this year. If the right place isn't playing with Hazard and Mata, what is it?Speaking of players going to and fro from Spain and England, ManU is apparently eyeing Valdes and Reina. Barca's list is Reina, De Gea, Courtois (on loan to Atletico from Chelsea), Ter Stegen, and Fernandez (Osasuna).

Courtois would be an excellent addition.

There would be some BAD blood there if he got sold to Barça.

Doesn't sound much different than now. Take a number.

 

[Slapdash]

BTW, Iker's reactions and quickness are better than both Courtois and De Gea.

Adan > Iker > Courtois > De GeaI'd rather see FCB go after someone young who's going to be a rock back there for the next 10-12 years. Courtois seems to fit that bill. De Gea, as was mentioned before, isn't a good fit for Barca given how poorly they defend crosses. They can't afford to not have another big guy back there to punch balls out. Being "good with your feet" can always be worked on/developed, but it shouldn't be the highest priority. I could see Chelsea leveraging AM and Barca against each other for Courtois. Mundo Deportivo lists a possible transfer fee at 20mm. I think selling Valdes would probably cover about half of that.

They used to be really high on Ansejo who has been burried on the bench at Atleti since joining up, he is still only 23. I don't think it is really needed to get a long term guy though, an older vet for a couple of years would be just fine.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Loic Remy has claimed it was playing a game of “Fifa 2012” with QPR owner Tony Fernandes, rather than the chance to double his wages, that persuaded him to sign for the London club instead of Newcastle United.

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"Nobody else will let me beat Barca with the Wellington Phoenix!"

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Courtois' acrobatic saves for Athletico have spawned a meme - "Thibauting": http://thibauting.tumblr.com/this kind of stuff: CourtoisI think Torres still has world class talent. His issues seem psychological to me. Off the ball he seems almost bored and unfocused, frequently looks to pass first in the box and has an uncanny ability to shoot directly at the keeper when presented with a sitter. Rafa's support for him is not helping with the fans. The team looks significantly more dynamic and dangerous with Ba out there. I've no idea what Chelsea's plan is, but would love to seem them offload Torres salary, find a decent second striker and look for a replacement for Lampard in the pivot - for which the current rumors include Felaini and Benat. I would not want to lose Courtois under any circumstances, including anything involving Falcao.

He might not be amenable to staying on ice when he could be sold to an elite club and get their #1 job. Chances like that don't come up often.Chelsea has him under contract until Summer of 2016, btw.

If Barcelona want him they will most likely get him, but I think the price is over EUR20 mil. He'll have 3 contract years left this summer. Chelsea paid 10mil for him in 2011, the same window that SAF paid 22 for De Gea.Cech is 30. Still playing great and was a hero for the club last season. Carlo Cudicini was ~30 and one year removed from EPL keeper of the year award when 20 year old Cech took his spot under Mourinho. Chelsea is in the midst of a huge youth movement. I think they consider selling Cech as an option, but would probably want to see Courtois play at least one season in the EPL before committing. One interesting angle - if Lukaku and DeBruyne keep progressing and one or two of their other young Belgians pan out (eden Hazard's brother Thorgan or the two Musonda brothers), Chelsea could be starting half the Belgian national team a few years from now, especially if the Fellaini rumors hold water.

 

[Slapdash]

Courtois' acrobatic saves for Athletico have spawned a meme - "Thibauting": http://thibauting.tumblr.com/this kind of stuff: CourtoisI think Torres still has world class talent. His issues seem psychological to me. Off the ball he seems almost bored and unfocused, frequently looks to pass first in the box and has an uncanny ability to shoot directly at the keeper when presented with a sitter. Rafa's support for him is not helping with the fans. The team looks significantly more dynamic and dangerous with Ba out there. I've no idea what Chelsea's plan is, but would love to seem them offload Torres salary, find a decent second striker and look for a replacement for Lampard in the pivot - for which the current rumors include Felaini and Benat. I would not want to lose Courtois under any circumstances, including anything involving Falcao.

He might not be amenable to staying on ice when he could be sold to an elite club and get their #1 job. Chances like that don't come up often.Chelsea has him under contract until Summer of 2016, btw.

If Barcelona want him they will most likely get him, but I think the price is over EUR20 mil. He'll have 3 contract years left this summer. Chelsea paid 10mil for him in 2011, the same window that SAF paid 22 for De Gea.Cech is 30. Still playing great and was a hero for the club last season. Carlo Cudicini was ~30 and one year removed from EPL keeper of the year award when 20 year old Cech took his spot under Mourinho. Chelsea is in the midst of a huge youth movement. I think they consider selling Cech as an option, but would probably want to see Courtois play at least one season in the EPL before committing. One interesting angle - if Lukaku and DeBruyne keep progressing and one or two of their other young Belgians pan out (eden Hazard's brother Thorgan or the two Musonda brothers), Chelsea could be starting half the Belgian national team a few years from now, especially if the Fellaini rumors hold water.

20 million seems well worth it. Speaking of Chelsea's youth, how is Romeu coming along? Looks like he isn't getting as much time this year. I think this summer is Barcelona's last chance to buy him back.

 

[T Bell]

Looks like the Shea to Stoke rumors were a bit premature but at least he gets what appears to be a trial with them. Seems like they are fully aware of his issues. I think Shea's upside is huge if he can get his head on straight and stay healthy.

Tony Pulis will decide at the end of the week whether to press ahead with plans to pay £2 million for USA international Brek Shea.The Stoke City manager is considering another move into the American market after the successful signing of Geoff Cameron in the summer and has invited Shea to spend a week with training with the club.Pulis is also considering setting up a friendly this week to give the left-sided midfielder a game at the Britannia Stadium - before he considers concluding a deal with FC Dallas for the 22-year-old.Shea was on the radar of Arsenal and Fulham over a year ago, but is currently recovering from a major foot operation and needs to prove his fitness.Pulis has been aware of Shea for some time and said: "About a year ago he was being touted as the next great thing in America, but fell off the rails a bit."I watched him play in France a year ago for America, so this is another chance to have a look at him."Shea had a similar trial at Arsenal 14 months ago, but an operation to have a bone removed from his right foot has held up his progress and chances of making it into the Premier League.The player is represented by Potteries-based solicitors Beswicks and their former employee, Mark Cartwright, was recently appointed as head of Stoke's scouting network.Pulis was recently asked by chairman Peter Coates to trim his squad, before adding any new players in the January window, but has become a fan of the value for money available in the American market.Cameron has made a huge impact and become his first choice right back, since his arrival in the summer and Pulis has been impressed with the levels of fitness and professionalism in the US game.

Just about anywhere else but Stoke and I'd root for him as an American to succeed, but I just can do it when he's playing for the Orcs.

 

[T Bell]

Loic Remy has claimed it was playing a game of “Fifa 2012” with QPR owner Tony Fernandes, rather than the chance to double his wages, that persuaded him to sign for the London club instead of Newcastle United.

My link

And by "playing FIFA" he means getting paid more. Idiotic move given QPR's likely relegation.

 

[Sebowski]

Courtois' acrobatic saves for Athletico have spawned a meme - "Thibauting": http://thibauting.tumblr.com/

this kind of stuff: Courtois

I think Torres still has world class talent. His issues seem psychological to me. Off the ball he seems almost bored and unfocused, frequently looks to pass first in the box and has an uncanny ability to shoot directly at the keeper when presented with a sitter. Rafa's support for him is not helping with the fans. The team looks significantly more dynamic and dangerous with Ba out there. I've no idea what Chelsea's plan is, but would love to seem them offload Torres salary, find a decent second striker and look for a replacement for Lampard in the pivot - for which the current rumors include Felaini and Benat. I would not want to lose Courtois under any circumstances, including anything involving Falcao.

He might not be amenable to staying on ice when he could be sold to an elite club and get their #1 job. Chances like that don't come up often.Chelsea has him under contract until Summer of 2016, btw.

If Barcelona want him they will most likely get him, but I think the price is over EUR20 mil. He'll have 3 contract years left this summer. Chelsea paid 10mil for him in 2011, the same window that SAF paid 22 for De Gea.Cech is 30. Still playing great and was a hero for the club last season. Carlo Cudicini was ~30 and one year removed from EPL keeper of the year award when 20 year old Cech took his spot under Mourinho. Chelsea is in the midst of a huge youth movement. I think they consider selling Cech as an option, but would probably want to see Courtois play at least one season in the EPL before committing. One interesting angle - if Lukaku and DeBruyne keep progressing and one or two of their other young Belgians pan out (eden Hazard's brother Thorgan or the two Musonda brothers), Chelsea could be starting half the Belgian national team a few years from now, especially if the Fellaini rumors hold water.

20 million seems well worth it. Speaking of Chelsea's youth, how is Romeu coming along? Looks like he isn't getting as much time this year. I think this summer is Barcelona's last chance to buy him back.

I really like Lukaku. He wasn't getting many starts early on, but always played well in the minutes he was getting. He is getting more starts now and making the most of them. I had no idea he had ties with Barca. The way he is playing they have to get him back if they can. Even if it is to flip him to keep him off Chelski for a profit.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Courtois' acrobatic saves for Athletico have spawned a meme - "Thibauting": http://thibauting.tumblr.com/

this kind of stuff: Courtois

I think Torres still has world class talent. His issues seem psychological to me. Off the ball he seems almost bored and unfocused, frequently looks to pass first in the box and has an uncanny ability to shoot directly at the keeper when presented with a sitter. Rafa's support for him is not helping with the fans. The team looks significantly more dynamic and dangerous with Ba out there. I've no idea what Chelsea's plan is, but would love to seem them offload Torres salary, find a decent second striker and look for a replacement for Lampard in the pivot - for which the current rumors include Felaini and Benat. I would not want to lose Courtois under any circumstances, including anything involving Falcao.

He might not be amenable to staying on ice when he could be sold to an elite club and get their #1 job. Chances like that don't come up often.Chelsea has him under contract until Summer of 2016, btw.

If Barcelona want him they will most likely get him, but I think the price is over EUR20 mil. He'll have 3 contract years left this summer. Chelsea paid 10mil for him in 2011, the same window that SAF paid 22 for De Gea.Cech is 30. Still playing great and was a hero for the club last season. Carlo Cudicini was ~30 and one year removed from EPL keeper of the year award when 20 year old Cech took his spot under Mourinho. Chelsea is in the midst of a huge youth movement. I think they consider selling Cech as an option, but would probably want to see Courtois play at least one season in the EPL before committing. One interesting angle - if Lukaku and DeBruyne keep progressing and one or two of their other young Belgians pan out (eden Hazard's brother Thorgan or the two Musonda brothers), Chelsea could be starting half the Belgian national team a few years from now, especially if the Fellaini rumors hold water.

20 million seems well worth it. Speaking of Chelsea's youth, how is Romeu coming along? Looks like he isn't getting as much time this year. I think this summer is Barcelona's last chance to buy him back.

I really like Lukaku. He wasn't getting many starts early on, but always played well in the minutes he was getting. He is getting more starts now and making the most of them. I had no idea he had ties with Barca. The way he is playing they have to get him back if they can. Even if it is to flip him to keep him off Chelski for a profit.

I think he's asking about Oriol Romeu, who was sold or loaned to Chelsea by Barcelona with a confusing and vaguely disputed first refusal/buy-back clause that may or may not give Barca his ultimate rights. He fell out of favor under RDM and hardly played. It seemed that FSW favored Romeu in the pivot and I liked what I saw from him in the few appearances he made earlier this season before the injury which ended his season. I really wish he were available for Chelsea now with Mikel off in Africa.

 

[Eephus]

Bradford City is 45 minutes away from Wembley

 

[Slapdash]

Courtois' acrobatic saves for Athletico have spawned a meme - "Thibauting": http://thibauting.tumblr.com/

this kind of stuff: Courtois

I think Torres still has world class talent. His issues seem psychological to me. Off the ball he seems almost bored and unfocused, frequently looks to pass first in the box and has an uncanny ability to shoot directly at the keeper when presented with a sitter. Rafa's support for him is not helping with the fans. The team looks significantly more dynamic and dangerous with Ba out there. I've no idea what Chelsea's plan is, but would love to seem them offload Torres salary, find a decent second striker and look for a replacement for Lampard in the pivot - for which the current rumors include Felaini and Benat. I would not want to lose Courtois under any circumstances, including anything involving Falcao.

He might not be amenable to staying on ice when he could be sold to an elite club and get their #1 job. Chances like that don't come up often.Chelsea has him under contract until Summer of 2016, btw.

If Barcelona want him they will most likely get him, but I think the price is over EUR20 mil. He'll have 3 contract years left this summer. Chelsea paid 10mil for him in 2011, the same window that SAF paid 22 for De Gea.Cech is 30. Still playing great and was a hero for the club last season. Carlo Cudicini was ~30 and one year removed from EPL keeper of the year award when 20 year old Cech took his spot under Mourinho. Chelsea is in the midst of a huge youth movement. I think they consider selling Cech as an option, but would probably want to see Courtois play at least one season in the EPL before committing. One interesting angle - if Lukaku and DeBruyne keep progressing and one or two of their other young Belgians pan out (eden Hazard's brother Thorgan or the two Musonda brothers), Chelsea could be starting half the Belgian national team a few years from now, especially if the Fellaini rumors hold water.

20 million seems well worth it. Speaking of Chelsea's youth, how is Romeu coming along? Looks like he isn't getting as much time this year. I think this summer is Barcelona's last chance to buy him back.

I really like Lukaku. He wasn't getting many starts early on, but always played well in the minutes he was getting. He is getting more starts now and making the most of them. I had no idea he had ties with Barca. The way he is playing they have to get him back if they can. Even if it is to flip him to keep him off Chelski for a profit.

I think he's asking about Oriol Romeu, who was sold or loaned to Chelsea by Barcelona with a confusing and vaguely disputed first refusal/buy-back clause that may or may not give Barca his ultimate rights. He fell out of favor under RDM and hardly played. It seemed that FSW favored Romeu in the pivot and I liked what I saw from him in the few appearances he made earlier this season before the injury which ended his season. I really wish he were available for Chelsea now with Mikel off in Africa.

Yeah, that whole transaction is very confusing. I wasn't aware that he was injured, tough break.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Looks like Toronto FC and QPR have finally come to an agreement on when Ryan Nelsen will retire and become the Toronto FC coach. Nelsen will join Toronto on February 1st.This leaves just NY with out a coach as the deal with Paulo Sousa appears to have fallen through.

 

[jonessed]

Looks like Toronto FC and QPR have finally come to an agreement on when Ryan Nelsen will retire and become the Toronto FC coach. Nelsen will join Toronto on February 1st.This leaves just NY with out a coach as the deal with Paulo Sousa appears to have fallen through.

Nelson is obviously past his prime and didn't get much playtime at Tottenham, but he has been a bright spot on an otherwise pretty crappy QPR defense. They are going to miss him.

 

[The Gator]

I had no idea he had ties with Barca. The way he is playing they have to get him back if they can. Even if it is to flip him to keep him off Chelski for a profit.

Oriol Romeu

 

[NewlyRetired]

Looks like Toronto FC and QPR have finally come to an agreement on when Ryan Nelsen will retire and become the Toronto FC coach. Nelsen will join Toronto on February 1st.This leaves just NY with out a coach as the deal with Paulo Sousa appears to have fallen through.

Nelson is obviously past his prime and didn't get much playtime at Tottenham, but he has been a bright spot on an otherwise pretty crappy QPR defense. They are going to miss him.

I can't say a know a whole lot about New Zealand players but I would have to think he is one of their better exports ever. He put together a pretty nice career in MLS and in England (I think he was in the EPL for his entire 7 seasons but not 100% sure).

 

[bweiser]

Bradford City is 45 minutes away from Wembley

awesome stuff.

 

[El Floppo]

Bradford City is 45 minutes away from Wembley

awesome stuff.

true... but it would've been nice to see Lichaj and Guzan get that too.

 

[El Floppo]

Looks like Toronto FC and QPR have finally come to an agreement on when Ryan Nelsen will retire and become the Toronto FC coach. Nelsen will join Toronto on February 1st.This leaves just NY with out a coach as the deal with Paulo Sousa appears to have fallen through.

Nelson is obviously past his prime and didn't get much playtime at Tottenham, but he has been a bright spot on an otherwise pretty crappy QPR defense. They are going to miss him.

I can't say a know a whole lot about New Zealand players but I would have to think he is one of their better exports ever. He put together a pretty nice career in MLS and in England (I think he was in the EPL for his entire 7 seasons but not 100% sure).

He definitely trumps Simon Elliot (and I always say that name like ET would)- and they both had nice careers and representing country pretty well too.

 

[Sebowski]

Courtois' acrobatic saves for Athletico have spawned a meme - "Thibauting": http://thibauting.tumblr.com/

this kind of stuff: Courtois

I think Torres still has world class talent. His issues seem psychological to me. Off the ball he seems almost bored and unfocused, frequently looks to pass first in the box and has an uncanny ability to shoot directly at the keeper when presented with a sitter. Rafa's support for him is not helping with the fans. The team looks significantly more dynamic and dangerous with Ba out there. I've no idea what Chelsea's plan is, but would love to seem them offload Torres salary, find a decent second striker and look for a replacement for Lampard in the pivot - for which the current rumors include Felaini and Benat. I would not want to lose Courtois under any circumstances, including anything involving Falcao.

He might not be amenable to staying on ice when he could be sold to an elite club and get their #1 job. Chances like that don't come up often.Chelsea has him under contract until Summer of 2016, btw.

If Barcelona want him they will most likely get him, but I think the price is over EUR20 mil. He'll have 3 contract years left this summer. Chelsea paid 10mil for him in 2011, the same window that SAF paid 22 for De Gea.Cech is 30. Still playing great and was a hero for the club last season. Carlo Cudicini was ~30 and one year removed from EPL keeper of the year award when 20 year old Cech took his spot under Mourinho. Chelsea is in the midst of a huge youth movement. I think they consider selling Cech as an option, but would probably want to see Courtois play at least one season in the EPL before committing. One interesting angle - if Lukaku and DeBruyne keep progressing and one or two of their other young Belgians pan out (eden Hazard's brother Thorgan or the two Musonda brothers), Chelsea could be starting half the Belgian national team a few years from now, especially if the Fellaini rumors hold water.

20 million seems well worth it. Speaking of Chelsea's youth, how is Romeu coming along? Looks like he isn't getting as much time this year. I think this summer is Barcelona's last chance to buy him back.

I really like Lukaku. He wasn't getting many starts early on, but always played well in the minutes he was getting. He is getting more starts now and making the most of them. I had no idea he had ties with Barca. The way he is playing they have to get him back if they can. Even if it is to flip him to keep him off Chelski for a profit.

I think he's asking about Oriol Romeu, who was sold or loaned to Chelsea by Barcelona with a confusing and vaguely disputed first refusal/buy-back clause that may or may not give Barca his ultimate rights. He fell out of favor under RDM and hardly played. It seemed that FSW favored Romeu in the pivot and I liked what I saw from him in the few appearances he made earlier this season before the injury which ended his season. I really wish he were available for Chelsea now with Mikel off in Africa.

Gotcha. Thought confused it for Lukaku's first name, Romelu

 

[NewlyRetired]

US had a scrimmage/friendly against Club Tijuana today and won 3-0. Bruin had two and Parke the 3rd. The Xolos won the Mexican League (Liga MX) in December but I have no idea who they played for their players today. Buddle and Beitashour are both out for the rest of camp with injuries.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Funny rumor dancing around twitter right now that the Red Bulls are talking to Waldo about their vacant head coaching position. I would normally give this 0.1% chance of being real but this is NY after all. .

 

[Ursa M]

Bradford City is 45 minutes away from Wembley

awesome stuff.

It sure is. A team from the old Fourth Division in a major final. Astounding.

 

[El Floppo]

Funny rumor dancing around twitter right now that the Red Bulls are talking to Waldo about their vacant head coaching position. I would normally give this 0.1% chance of being real but this is NY after all. .

 

[CBusAlex]

Belize will be in the Gold Cup this summer for the first time ever. Guatemala and Panama with a playoff for the final spot on Friday.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Belize will be in the Gold Cup this summer for the first time ever. Guatemala and Panama with a playoff for the final spot on Friday.

Group B ended up with all teams with draws. Honduras topped the group by scoring one more goal it appears and El Salvador advanced on the dreaded coin flip over Panama So the Gold Cup Central America teams seem to be Honduras, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Belize and the winner of the playoff game you mentioned above.I am hopeful that Guat can pull that playoff game out as I don't think Panama would send their best team to the Gold Cup much like many of the other Hex contestants won't and I want the strongest teams possible for the US to play to get a real good look at the next group of players in the depth chart.