ASo there are 3 possible scenarios (excluding leg assignments).How do you see each shaking out if it were to happen?ABayern v BarcelonaDortmund v MadridBBayern v MadridDortmund v BarcelonaCBayern v DortmundBarcelona v Madrid
Bayern over Barca. Real over Dortmund (although I do think Klopp has the right idea against Madrid, which is to try to take Xabi Alonso out of the game).
Bayern / Real would be my preferred final.
But I'd probably enjoy any matchup. I'm rooting against Barca, but that's not anyone's fault. I find their dominance a bit tedious and I dislike a lot of Barca fans.
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Bayern over Barca. Real over Dortmund (although I do think Klopp has the right idea against Madrid, which is to try to take Xabi Alonso out of the game).
Bayern / Real would be my preferred final.
But I'd probably enjoy any matchup. I'm rooting against Barca, but that's not anyone's fault. I find their dominance a bit tedious and I dislike a lot of Barca fans.
Will those change once the draw is announced? Are they taking bets now?Oddschecker sez, chances of winning Cup:
Barca 35%Real 27%Bayern 25%Dortmund 13%
ETA: I like Bayern at 11/4 fair bit.
Oddschecker sez, chances of winning Cup:
Barca 35%Real 27%Bayern 25%Dortmund 13%
ETA: I like Bayern at 11/4 fair bit.
Barcelona didn't exactly cruise past Milan and PSG, even if the latter can be attributed to Messi's injury. I imagine Bartra's going to be forced into action. Pique hasn't looked all that great. Alves willfully continues to shirk any defensive responsibility. Busquets was awful yesterday.Oddschecker sez, chances of winning Cup:
Barca 35%Real 27%Bayern 25%Dortmund 13%
ETA: I like Bayern at 11/4 fair bit.
The Arsenal way? Pass up a chance at a trophy for 4th?Spurs :choke:Now they can concentrate on getting a CL spot.
<_<Oddschecker sez, chances of winning Cup:
Barca 35%Real 27%Bayern 25%Dortmund 13%
ETA: I like Bayern at 11/4 fair bit.Barcelona didn't exactly cruise past Milan and PSG, even if the latter can be attributed to Messi's injury. I imagine Bartra's going to be forced into action. Pique hasn't looked all that great. Alves willfully continues to shirk any defensive responsibility. Busquets was awful yesterday.Oddschecker sez, chances of winning Cup:
Barca 35%Real 27%Bayern 25%Dortmund 13%
ETA: I like Bayern at 11/4 fair bit.
I think they lose to Real, definitely lose to Bayern, and are probably a toss-up to beat Dortmund.
Fading Barcelona, but no other bets. Riding Bayern 8/1 and probably not hedging off at any point.
You've been a Liverpool fan too long. Champions League berth means much more than Europa or FA cup gold.The Arsenal way? Pass up a chance at a trophy for 4th?Spurs :choke:Now they can concentrate on getting a CL spot.
CL>>> FA Cup>>> Europa LeegYou've been a Liverpool fan too long. Champions League berth means much more than Europa or FA cup gold.The Arsenal way? Pass up a chance at a trophy for 4th?Spurs :choke:Now they can concentrate on getting a CL spot.
Chelsea fans, back me up here. You are in all three. Rank your order of preference.
Bayern v. Real in the finalChampions League draw: Bayern Munich (home 1st leg)/BarcelonaDortmund (home 1st leg)/Real Madrid
Agreed. I think that's a toss up. They are about equal in talent, with a slight edge to RM. But Bayern is riding high and has been unstoppable all year. Barça's odds just got a lot worse due to the draw.Bayern v. Real in the finalChampions League draw: Bayern Munich (home 1st leg)/BarcelonaDortmund (home 1st leg)/Real Madrid
Same for me.CL>>> FA Cup>>> Europa LeegYou've been a Liverpool fan too long. Champions League berth means much more than Europa or FA cup gold.The Arsenal way? Pass up a chance at a trophy for 4th?Spurs :choke:Now they can concentrate on getting a CL spot.
Chelsea fans, back me up here. You are in all three. Rank your order of preference.
Perfect draw for Chelsea imo. Did not want to travel to Turkey and Benfica has the best quality of the remaining teams. Second leg at home is nice.Europa Draw:
Fenerbahce (home 1st leg)/Benfica
Basel (home 1st leg)/Chelsea
Agreed on both countsPerfect draw for Chelsea imo. Did not want to travel to Turkey and Benfica has the best quality of the remaining teams. Second leg at home is nice.Europa Draw:
Fenerbahce (home 1st leg)/Benfica
Basel (home 1st leg)/Chelsea
Everyone ranks the CL the highest. But actually being in a EL semi with a chance to win it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fourth place.You've been a Liverpool fan too long. Champions League berth means much more than Europa or FA cup gold.The Arsenal way? Pass up a chance at a trophy for 4th?Spurs :choke:Now they can concentrate on getting a CL spot.
Chelsea fans, back me up here. You are in all three. Rank your order of preference.
But a CL spot is like a trophy.The Arsenal way? Pass up a chance at a trophy for 4th?Spurs :choke:Now they can concentrate on getting a CL spot.
No way. CL means at least 25M pounds to a PL team, plus a lot of prestige. That is huge when competing in the transfer market for top talent.Everyone ranks the CL the highest. But actually being in a EL semi with a chance to win it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fourth place.You've been a Liverpool fan too long. Champions League berth means much more than Europa or FA cup gold.The Arsenal way? Pass up a chance at a trophy for 4th?Spurs :choke:Now they can concentrate on getting a CL spot.
Chelsea fans, back me up here. You are in all three. Rank your order of preference.
How has Arsenal done in the transfer market? They're consistently in the CL and can't keep players. I use Arsenal as an example because that's how I feel Tottenham will go about business. They won't splash a lot of cash in the market in order to make a CL run, imo.T Bell said:No way. CL means at least 25M pounds to a PL team, plus a lot of prestige. That is huge when competing in the transfer market for top talent.
EL is a sideshow by comparison.
Should be fun. Bayern is a better tactical matchup for Barcelona than the other two.Tremendous Upside said:Champions League draw:
Bayern Munich (home 1st leg)/Barcelona
Dortmund (home 1st leg)/Real Madrid
They also have a brand new, self-financed stadium and a first class training facility. They're now (supposedly) over the hump on the financing of those two and are going to have a new shirt sponsorship deal that will be far better than the one that they essentially settled for almost 10 years ago to get the stadium built.How has Arsenal done in the transfer market? They're consistently in the CL and can't keep players. I use Arsenal as an example because that's how I feel Tottenham will go about business. They won't splash a lot of cash in the market in order to make a CL run, imo.T Bell said:No way. CL means at least 25M pounds to a PL team, plus a lot of prestige. That is huge when competing in the transfer market for top talent.
EL is a sideshow by comparison.
I think so too. Also, they still have Robben, right? I like those odds.Should be fun. Bayern is a better tactical matchup for Barcelona than the other two.Tremendous Upside said:Champions League draw:
Bayern Munich (home 1st leg)/Barcelona
Dortmund (home 1st leg)/Real Madrid
The Gator said:Everyone ranks the CL the highest. But actually being in a EL semi with a chance to win it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fourth place.Sebowski said:You've been a Liverpool fan too long. Champions League berth means much more than Europa or FA cup gold.The Gator said:The Arsenal way? Pass up a chance at a trophy for 4th?Spurs :choke:Now they can concentrate on getting a CL spot.
Chelsea fans, back me up here. You are in all three. Rank your order of preference.
Their top striker is out for the first leg too.I think so too. Also, they still have Robben, right? I like those odds.Should be fun. Bayern is a better tactical matchup for Barcelona than the other two.Tremendous Upside said:Champions League draw:
Bayern Munich (home 1st leg)/Barcelona
Dortmund (home 1st leg)/Real Madrid
Any more Europa league games were going to keep Spurs out of the CL, so I'm glad it's over. If they don't make the CL they lose Bale, pretty much guaranteed. Maybe they still lose him if they do make it, but at least they have a shot.How has Arsenal done in the transfer market? They're consistently in the CL and can't keep players. I use Arsenal as an example because that's how I feel Tottenham will go about business. They won't splash a lot of cash in the market in order to make a CL run, imo.T Bell said:No way. CL means at least 25M pounds to a PL team, plus a lot of prestige. That is huge when competing in the transfer market for top talent.
EL is a sideshow by comparison.
So everyone but Gator agrees. Now, what do you think Rafa's goals are?CletiusMaximus said:Same for me.Tremendous Upside said:CL>>> FA Cup>>> Europa LeegSebowski said:You've been a Liverpool fan too long. Champions League berth means much more than Europa or FA cup gold.The Gator said:The Arsenal way? Pass up a chance at a trophy for 4th?Spurs :choke:Now they can concentrate on getting a CL spot.
Chelsea fans, back me up here. You are in all three. Rank your order of preference.
True. That just leaves Mario Gomez or Claudio Pizarro.Their top striker is out for the first leg too.I think so too. Also, they still have Robben, right? I like those odds.Should be fun. Bayern is a better tactical matchup for Barcelona than the other two.Tremendous Upside said:Champions League draw: Bayern Munich (home 1st leg)/BarcelonaDortmund (home 1st leg)/Real Madrid
Link?I said CL is greater than the others, toots.So everyone but Gator agrees.CletiusMaximus said:Same for me.Tremendous Upside said:CL>>> FA Cup>>> Europa LeegSebowski said:You've been a Liverpool fan too long. Champions League berth means much more than Europa or FA cup gold. Chelsea fans, back me up here. You are in all three. Rank your order of preference.The Gator said:The Arsenal way? Pass up a chance at a trophy for 4th?Spurs :choke:Now they can concentrate on getting a CL spot.
The Gator said:...actually being in a EL semi with a chance to win it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fourth place.