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***Official "Space Blanket" for Better Call Saul*** (4 Viewers)

Did the episode start a couple minutes early? DVR picked up seemingly in the middle (where the nurse said she had a DNR order) of the scene where Mrs. McGill was on her death bed. What did I miss there? Anything?
At the very beginning it wasn't clear that Chuck was there or that it was Mrs McGill. So for a couple of seconds after the nurse asked about the priest and before Chuck was revealed I thought it was Chuck's deathbed.

 
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At the very beginning it wasn't clear that Chuck was there or that it was Mrs McGill. So for a couple of seconds after the nurse asked about the priest and before Chuck was revealed I though it was Chuck's deathbed.
i was kind of hoping it was- then Chuck's final words to Jimmy "you never were a real lawyer"..   :flatline:

Jimmy becomes Saul

 
Agreed. I don't buy Gus here. 

What's Gus doing out there? Is he patrolling the area to protect Hector? If so, he comes across a sniper with a high powered rifle, someone he's never met, doesn't know the back story, has no reason to want to protect from anything, and his response is to leave a note saying Don't? Why not shoot him? What's he there for if not to stop threats? 
Gus isn't working for Hector. Hector killed his lover by the pool years ago. He's working on his own agenda and doesn't want Mike to interfere.

 
I think it was to show where Chuck's hatred of Jimmy comes from - Chuck has done everything 'right' with his own life yet Jimmy is still his mom's favorite. Then Jimmy decides to get a law degree and practice in his area no less. Chuck then concludes that the best thing for everyone is to destroy Jimmy's career. 
Yep.  

Frankly, after finally getting over Jimmy passing the bar (which, frankly, I'd think Chuck would be able to since you can't weasel your way into passing the exam), I think Chuck would be "okay" with Jimmy turning into an ambulance chasing solo-practitioner (probably the least respected area in the legal field within the legal field).   However, when Jimmy had the offer to basically become Chuck's equal - Chuck blew his stack because he couldn't bear to see the guy he's looked down upon throughout life becoming his equal in the area where, up until then, Jimmy clearly wasn't his equal.  And, the fact that Jimmy got there through borderline unethical means (approaching clients instead of them approaching him), fueled the fire. Mesa Verde would have been Chuck's final dagger if Jimmy had let it then I think Chuck could be content watching Jimmy slumming it in the legal minor leagues.  

 
I get how some people find the season or episode boring.

It's like watching the World Series.
If you like baseball you will enjoy tuning in for the WS for what it is. 

If you find baseball boring you will tune out and find it boring unless something magical is happening.

This show is a slow burn.
BB seemed like every other scene was an intense thrill ride.
BCS may not have that yet but I enjoy the show for what it is.
A show with good acting and writing that keeps me interested in the story and characters themselves.

 
Loved the season, but thought where they left us hanging wasn't a good season finale stopping point. Would've been a good "lead-in to the finale" episode, IMO. :coffee:  
:goodposting: Wasn't paying attention to commercials and had no idea this was it for the year..  so when "Talking Saul" came on my first thought was.. wait.. That was the finale?

It was obvious Chuck was setting Jimmy up at the end.. IMO, a better ending would have been to have Kim standing there behind the Shiny Curtains, maybe herself holding the recorder..

As you said would have been a great lead in to a "real" finale. :kicksrock:

 
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:goodposting: Wasn't paying attention to commercials and had no idea this was it for the year..  so when "Talking Saul" came on my first thought was.. wait.. That was the finale?

It was obvious Chuck was setting Jimmy up at the end.. IMO, a better ending would have been to have Kim standing there behind the Shiny Curtains, maybe herself holding the recorder..

As you said would have been a great lead in to a "real" finale. :kicksrock:


This is the problem with you millennials!
You all want the BIG payoff with fireworks and an AH-HA moment! 

 
My favorite random comment I saw, not sure where.  "I liked this show but felt it went a season or 2, too long" :lol:

 
:goodposting: Wasn't paying attention to commercials and had no idea this was it for the year..  so when "Talking Saul" came on my first thought was.. wait.. That was the finale?

It was obvious Chuck was setting Jimmy up at the end.. IMO, a better ending would have been to have Kim standing there behind the Shiny Curtains, maybe herself holding the recorder..

As you said would have been a great lead in to a "real" finale. :kicksrock:


This is the problem with you millennials!
You all want the BIG payoff with fireworks and an AH-HA moment! 
:mellow:   .. Is 48 the "new" millennial :confused:

Really enjoyed the season, just felt the Finale was "blah" for a finale. :shrug:

 
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I get how some people find the season or episode boring.

It's like watching the World Series.
If you like baseball you will enjoy tuning in for the WS for what it is. 

If you find baseball boring you will tune out and find it boring unless something magical is happening.

This show is a slow burn.
BB seemed like every other scene was an intense thrill ride.
BCS may not have that yet but I enjoy the show for what it is.
A show with good acting and writing that keeps me interested in the story and characters themselves.
Breaking Bad could be very slow at times but it always had tension. It always felt like something was at stake. Also, lots of things happened. 

I actually enjoyed the first season. There's some nice side storylines. Storylines have resolution. There's lots of humor. Our two main characters actually interact. In BCS season 2 nothing happens. Eventually, something should happen in a show right? You go whole season at a snail's pace and then there's no payoff...worse there's a cliff hanger. 

 
:goodposting: Wasn't paying attention to commercials and had no idea this was it for the year..  so when "Talking Saul" came on my first thought was.. wait.. That was the finale?

It was obvious Chuck was setting Jimmy up at the end.. IMO, a better ending would have been to have Kim standing there behind the Shiny Curtains, maybe herself holding the recorder..

As you said would have been a great lead in to a "real" finale. :kicksrock:


Ug.  Stop posting, please.

 
I get how some people find the season or episode boring.

It's like watching the World Series.
If you like baseball you will enjoy tuning in for the WS for what it is. 

If you find baseball boring you will tune out and find it boring unless something magical is happening.

This show is a slow burn.
BB seemed like every other scene was an intense thrill ride.
BCS may not have that yet but I enjoy the show for what it is.
A show with good acting and writing that keeps me interested in the story and characters themselves.
Using BB as an example, while the show was awesome, it still had problems.  You could re-watch the show, fast forward through just about any part that Skyler was in and still enjoy the show (and maybe even enjoy more).  Her appearance became a distraction rather than an enhancement of the show.

Like BB, I think the BCS show is a good one.  Like the Skyler story line, I think the Chuck story line is becoming more of a distraction to the show at large.

A great show can still have flaws.  Nothing wrong with discussing those.

 
This show has a limited shelf life.  For various reasons, we all know it won't go on for 20 years.
I'd like to see it go on for 20 years in three separate stages. First we have the events leading up to the Breaking Bad timeline. Then we have Gene the Cinnabon Manager. Finally, the show goes into American Horror Story mode where Bob Odenkirk and Johnathan Banks get completely new characters and storylines each season.

 
What's Gus doing out there? Is he patrolling the area to protect Hector? If so, he comes across a sniper with a high powered rifle, someone he's never met, doesn't know the back story, has no reason to want to protect from anything, and his response is to leave a note saying Don't? Why not shoot him? What's he there for if not to stop threats? 
Gus isn't protecting Hector because they're not exactly BFFs. He doesn't shoot Mike because he wants to hire him.

 
The entire Mike/Hector scene was absolutely fantastic.  May have to watch that one again.  I really enjoyed how they put you in the moment with Mike and all you had was your own wishes and thoughts running through your mind.  These guys know how to write a show.

When Jimmy finds out about the tape, I gotta assume that's the point he has Chuck committed.  I also assume it blows Kim out of the picture as I think the tape is just as much for attempting to disbar Jimmy as it is to push Kim away.

But that's just my wild speculation.  Looking forward to season 3.  Same time next year?

 
Using BB as an example, while the show was awesome, it still had problems.  You could re-watch the show, fast forward through just about any part that Skyler was in and still enjoy the show (and maybe even enjoy more).  Her appearance became a distraction rather than an enhancement of the show.

Like BB, I think the BCS show is a good one.  Like the Skyler story line, I think the Chuck story line is becoming more of a distraction to the show at large.

A great show can still have flaws.  Nothing wrong with discussing those.
I was in the minority. 

I enjoyed the Skylar story line. Much of her storyline caused Walt to do crazy things and added to great tension.

 
The entire Mike/Hector scene was absolutely fantastic.  May have to watch that one again.  I really enjoyed how they put you in the moment with Mike and all you had was your own wishes and thoughts running through your mind.  These guys know how to write a show.

When Jimmy finds out about the tape, I gotta assume that's the point he has Chuck committed.  I also assume it blows Kim out of the picture as I think the tape is just as much for attempting to disbar Jimmy as it is to push Kim away.

But that's just my wild speculation.  Looking forward to season 3.  Same time next year?


You mean unlike all of the other spot-on predictions that have been made in this thread?  Didn't somebody post yesterday that Chuck was going to die?  NAILED IT!

 
Breaking Bad could be very slow at times but it always had tension. It always felt like something was at stake. Also, lots of things happened. 

I actually enjoyed the first season. There's some nice side storylines. Storylines have resolution. There's lots of humor. Our two main characters actually interact. In BCS season 2 nothing happens. Eventually, something should happen in a show right? You go whole season at a snail's pace and then there's no payoff...worse there's a cliff hanger. 
BB was slow?

Jesus christ you people must expect porno style direction.

Dude "Hi...I'm here to fix the dishwasher. "

Chick "Let's bang"

 
Yeah I can't see a prosecutor opting to proceed with charges (although I've seen prosecutors move forward on less). Plus we essentially know they don't because I'm pretty sure a felony conviction that's also a crime of moral terpitude (dishonesty) would get him disbarred.

It certainly gives Chuck some leverage though. Probably gets him back into good standing at HHM, could prompt the name change, and may even convince Mesa verde to sign back over. 


Question:  So Chuck's tape of Jimmy's confession could not be used as evidence in a criminal court, right?  

What about the Bar Association?  Could Chuck present the tape to the NM Bar or whatever and have Jimmy disbarred without a "conviction"?

 
I think some people need to forget that this is not BB; Kim and Chuck are, more or less, two of the four major characters.  Some want it to be all about Jimmy and Mike, but while Jimmy is the main character, Mike, Chuck and Kim are all major characters as well.  

That aside, I can see why some were disappointed with last night.  Season 2 finished how Season 1 did in this regard: a phenomenal penultimate episode followed by a merely good season finale. 

 
Officer Pete Malloy said:
Question:  So Chuck's tape of Jimmy's confession could not be used as evidence in a criminal court, right?  

What about the Bar Association?  Could Chuck present the tape to the NM Bar or whatever and have Jimmy disbarred without a "conviction"?
1. It could almost certainly be used in court. It's a statement against interest and since chuck isn't a state actor there's no 4th or 5th amendment protections  

2.  Most likely yes. Frankly he's probably mandatorily bound to report it. Jimmy would likely afforded the right to respond and given some meaningful hearing on it. 

 
1. It could almost certainly be used in court. It's a statement against interest and since chuck isn't a state actor there's no 4th or 5th amendment protections  

2.  Most likely yes. Frankly he's probably mandatorily bound to report it. Jimmy would likely afforded the right to respond and given some meaningful hearing on it. 
Ahhhh...I was looking at #1 the wrong way.

 
1. It could almost certainly be used in court. It's a statement against interest and since chuck isn't a state actor there's no 4th or 5th amendment protections  

2.  Most likely yes. Frankly he's probably mandatorily bound to report it. Jimmy would likely afforded the right to respond and given some meaningful hearing on it. 
We already know that Jimmy isn't going to jail or getting disbarred. Somehow this is going to blow up in Chuck's face. Chuck is Wile E Coyote to Jimmy's Roadrunner.

 
Best episode of another great season. The actor playing Chuck is amazing. I'll go back and read through I'm sure there is some hint that I'm missing as to who left the note for Mike.

If you don't like this show I don't get it.

 
Nathan R. Jessep said:
Did the episode start a couple minutes early? DVR picked up seemingly in the middle (where the nurse said she had a DNR order) of the scene where Mrs. McGill was on her death bed. What did I miss there? Anything?
My DVR started late as well. I had to watch off my cable's "On Demand" feature to see the beginning.

You did miss Chuck being more off an ###, it started with Chuck/Jimmy sitting at the Mom's bedside. Jimmy leaves to get food, as he's gone the Mom asks for Jimmy, then dies. The nurse comes in at the part you started.

Chuck doesn't tell this to Jimmy when he asks what happened.

 
We already know that Jimmy isn't going to jail or getting disbarred. Somehow this is going to blow up in Chuck's face. Chuck is Wile E Coyote to Jimmy's Roadrunner.
You may not be suggesting that I was suggesting there's a "good" case here against jimmy either in the criminal court or with the state bar, but in the event you are, to clarify, I'm not suggesting the taped confession, given the context it was made, makes a good case against jimmy in the criminal court or with the bar. I was merely answering tanners questions. 

 
snogger said:
:goodposting: Wasn't paying attention to commercials and had no idea this was it for the year..  so when "Talking Saul" came on my first thought was.. wait.. That was the finale?

It was obvious Chuck was setting Jimmy up at the end.. IMO, a better ending would have been to have Kim standing there behind the Shiny Curtains, maybe herself holding the recorder..

As you said would have been a great lead in to a "real" finale. :kicksrock:
Based on many of the comments I've read about the finale, I need to throw this out there - it's common for shows like this to have the penultimate episode be the 'real' finale and for the actual finale to be a little disappointing.

 
Felt good when Saul was telling Chuck that he nor Howard deserved Mesa Verde.  Right on.  It's the truth.  Was Kim's account.  Greedy ####s.  

 
Really enjoyed the episode, but I also had no idea this was the season finale until that stupid Talking Saul show started.  Yeeesh, that went fast!  Grrr, only 10ep??

I agree with whoever posted that Chuck is so self absorbed that he's out to prove that he didn't screw up more than nailing Jimmy.

The Mike/sniper scene was fantastic.  He needs to practice sound firearms safety and not walk around with the safety off on his rifle.  He's sending a bad message to children everywhere.

I find it pretty interesting just how much Jimmy goes out of his way to take care of his brother even though Chuck all but hates him.  I  :doh: when he confessed.  Ugh, you big dummy.

:lmao:  at how angry some of you guys are getting over people not being as riveted as you are.  Get over yourselves.

 
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Felt good when Saul was telling Chuck that he nor Howard deserved Mesa Verde.  Right on.  It's the truth.  Was Kim's account.  Greedy ####s.  
What felt good was the week before when kim railed into chuck in his own home about how he treats his brother jimmy...which evidently fell on deaf ears

 
Serious question here....so we all know at some point Jimmy will make the turn into Saul...and we know from Breaking Bad that Saul practices in Albuquerque and is in the public eye with commercials and whatnot.  So it's pretty safe to assume that nothing happens legally to Jimmy....however is there any law that prohibits you from advertising under one name but holding all of your legal credentials in another?  I mean it's pretty far fetched that Jimmy would legally change his name to Saul and then take the bar again...right? :oldunsure:

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
I am very satisfied with the pacing of the show.  The details, the motivations, they appeal to me.  That others do not share my view does not lessen my enjoyment, unless it drives the ratings so low that the show gets canceled.
Agreed. There's slow boring and there's slow yet detailed and nuanced. This show for my tastes is riveting even without action because of how it's constructed and plays out. That scene where Mike was trying to get a bead on Hector was awesome. No talking, didn't pull the trigger yet I still loved it.

 
BCS is a well done show......but its hard to drum up any real drama for the overal plot as the fate of the two primary characters are already known.  If you're not enamored with Jimmy and Mike, I can see someone not thinking it's one of the best.

That being said, will future viewers watch this before BB or after?  What would be the better way to watch it? 

 
Serious question here....so we all know at some point Jimmy will make the turn into Saul...and we know from Breaking Bad that Saul practices in Albuquerque and is in the public eye with commercials and whatnot.  So it's pretty safe to assume that nothing happens legally to Jimmy....however is there any law that prohibits you from advertising under one name but holding all of your legal credentials in another?  I mean it's pretty far fetched that Jimmy would legally change his name to Saul and then take the bar again...right? :oldunsure:
Yea he would just change his name to Saul, not re-take the bar. He might have to justify it to the board, I dunno. 

 
I hope the switch to Saul isn't the result of some compromise about admitting what he did to Chuck.  I don't want it to be a thing where Chuck says you can't use the name McGill any longer blah blah blah.  I guess I'm hoping that the switch to Saul is more dramatic 

 

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