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***Official "Space Blanket" for Better Call Saul*** (4 Viewers)

Zow said:
Or Saul sees an unethical way or ways to make money and the firm kicks him out and the severance deal requires a name change to save face for the firm. 
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Could happen, but why? Saul needs to get screwed over so people have sympathy for him. 

 
Cjw_55106 said:
I thought it was a great start to season two. You guys worried about a five minute rehash in a season two premier are hilarious. 
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The season two opener of Breaking Bad did the same thing.

 
OK back to the baseball cards, I was under the impression that only drugs were stolen and he was making up the baseball cards bit but then what would be the point of calling the cops? I just assumed he was being dumb and arrogant. So then I was thinking maybe the above people are correct and he did actually have baseball cards stolen but that seems pretty petty by nacho. What does everyone else think?

 
He wouldn't have reported it if just the money was stolen. He really thinks quick action by the police will get his cards back.

 
I think Jimmy realized he could hook more people through legit means than the little scam they pulled on KENWINS. He'll also have the blond on his side more often. Whether she likes what he becomes will be interesting.

Good start to the season.

 
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shadyridr said:
OK back to the baseball cards, I was under the impression that only drugs were stolen and he was making up the baseball cards bit but then what would be the point of calling the cops? I just assumed he was being dumb and arrogant. So then I was thinking maybe the above people are correct and he did actually have baseball cards stolen but that seems pretty petty by nacho. What does everyone else think?
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I'm with a prior poster with regard to the cards.  He was way too familiar with the values and grading of the cards and how he droned on about them implies that he actually lost them. They would be something worthwhile taking.  Its also quite possible that the cards were held in the same place as the cash.  I was wondering whether he ever mentioned the cards to nacho in a prior episode and l missed it.  

 
At some point Saul is going to have make the decision to be both a crook AND a lawyer.  He may have made that decision in this last episode.  

 
shadyridr said:
OK back to the baseball cards, I was under the impression that only drugs were stolen and he was making up the baseball cards bit but then what would be the point of calling the cops? I just assumed he was being dumb and arrogant. So then I was thinking maybe the above people are correct and he did actually have baseball cards stolen but that seems pretty petty by nacho. What does everyone else think?
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If I'm a criminal, drug dealing among my crimes of choice, but not my exclusive profession, I might well seek to rob a nebbish like the dweeb in question.  I might postulate the guy is inexperienced enough to keep product and proceeds from several sales at home, and that he is zero threat to me physically even if he were to encounter me while I robbed his place.  When I got to his place I would look for the  drugs or the money.  Not being rick Harris from Pawn stars I would not know the value of every item in his home, but if, while looking around I saw bearer bonds, a jar of diamonds, or a baseball card collection including a signed, rookie, Mickey mantel Card in mint condition I would recognize the value, appreciate it is easy to carry and to sell, and I would take that target of opportunity with me.

Do I see a character like that Hummer owner having invested his proceeds in something like baseball cards, sure.  Any guy that buys that Hummer or those tennis shoes certainly had the collection mentioned.  He may even have had most of his money invested in a few rare and valuable cards.  No doubt he wants those recovered by the cops. No doubt he does not want to mention anything else, like the money or the drugs.  No doubt he was too stupid to understand that the scene and his story would raise red flags for the cops. He was the very embodiment of Mike's apocryphal warnings.  He was an accident looking for a place to happen and Mike and Nacho both understood this clearly.  One does not want to be a sheep in a land of hungry wolfs.  Worse yet to be a stupid, blind, naïve sheep in such a land. 

 
another possibility is that Nacho stole the baseball cards when he couldn't find the stash, and hi-tops moved his stash of money/pills from the wall before the cops got there, not wanting them to find it while they were investigating the missing cards

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
If I'm a criminal, drug dealing among my crimes of choice, but not my exclusive profession, I might well seek to rob a nebbish like the dweeb in question.  I might postulate the guy is inexperienced enough to keep product and proceeds from several sales at home, and that he is zero threat to me physically even if he were to encounter me while I robbed his place.  When I got to his place I would look for the  drugs or the money.  Not being rick Harris from Pawn stars I would not know the value of every item in his home, but if, while looking around I saw bearer bonds, a jar of diamonds, or a baseball card collection including a signed, rookie, Mickey mantel Card in mint condition I would recognize the value, appreciate it is easy to carry and to sell, and I would take that target of opportunity with me.

Do I see a character like that Hummer owner having invested his proceeds in something like baseball cards, sure.  Any guy that buys that Hummer or those tennis shoes certainly had the collection mentioned.  He may even have had most of his money invested in a few rare and valuable cards.  No doubt he wants those recovered by the cops. No doubt he does not want to mention anything else, like the money or the drugs.  No doubt he was too stupid to understand that the scene and his story would raise red flags for the cops. He was the very embodiment of Mike's apocryphal warnings.  He was an accident looking for a place to happen and Mike and Nacho both understood this clearly.  One does not want to be a sheep in a land of hungry wolfs.  Worse yet to be a stupid, blind, naïve sheep in such a land. 
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By calling in the cops, it's just a matter of time before he's offed, right? Too much of a risk for Nacho.

 
Nathan R. Jessep said:
another possibility is that Nacho stole the baseball cards when he couldn't find the stash, and hi-tops moved his stash of money/pills from the wall before the cops got there, not wanting them to find it while they were investigating the missing cards
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I think that is correct....hi-tops moved whatever he had stashed, that is how the couch swept the floor clean after the house had been ransacked.

 
Nathan R. Jessep said:
another possibility is that Nacho stole the baseball cards when he couldn't find the stash, and hi-tops moved his stash of money/pills from the wall before the cops got there, not wanting them to find it while they were investigating the missing cards
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Good point, although he did say he was missing some money and quickly changed the subject.

 
boilerdave said:
I think that is correct....hi-tops moved whatever he had stashed, that is how the couch swept the floor clean after the house had been ransacked.
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This is probably correct, though I might speculate that Nacho found that hiding place as well, tossed the rest of the house quickly, took the cards and left, and then dweeb checked his card collection and went to look behind the couch, found it cleaned out, and then called the cops.  it works either way, and nacho seems like a pretty thorough guy.

There are some places the experienced always search.  When looking for drugs the experienced always look in refrigerators and freezers, including in ice trays.  They check air vents, toilet tanks, inside speakers, the underside of drawers and the backs of drawers and pictures.  They check for floor boards, molding and ceiling tiles that are moveable, fish tanks, always.

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
This is probably correct, though I might speculate that Nacho found that hiding place as well, tossed the rest of the house quickly, took the cards and left, and then dweeb checked his card collection and went to look behind the couch, found it cleaned out, and then called the cops.  it works either way, and nacho seems like a pretty thorough guy.

There are some places the experienced always search.  When looking for drugs the experienced always look in refrigerators and freezers, including in ice trays.  They check air vents, toilet tanks, inside speakers, the underside of drawers and the backs of drawers and pictures.  They check for floor boards, molding and ceiling tiles that are moveable, fish tanks, always.
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Tossing the house the way he did generally indicates haste. The floor board didn't exactly look out of place.  Difficult to imagine that nacho would find the exact spot.

 
kentric said:
Tossing the house the way he did generally indicates haste. The floor board didn't exactly look out of place.  Difficult to imagine that nacho would find the exact spot.
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Not difficult for me to imagine.  In my experience people hide things behind items and under items.  I would have pulled out the furniture to look behind it for air vents and to check molding and flooring and would have flipped the furniture to look underneath it on the inside of it.  I also would look for screws on items that appear to have a lot of head damage, slide marks on carpets and flooring, and my personal favorite basement PVC pipes that appear to go nowhere.

 
Fantastic episode....

one thing i worry worry about...

one of the things that made BrBa great is that the characters and plots evolved organically.  The characters followed somewhat natural arcs.

with Saul, you know who he becomes, so, at some point, will they have push the character somewhat unnaturally to connect this guy we are watching to his predetermined end point?

I'm sure the writers are up to the challenge, as they haven't let me down yet

 
Rove! said:
Fantastic episode....

one thing i worry worry about...

one of the things that made BrBa great is that the characters and plots evolved organically.  The characters followed somewhat natural arcs.

with Saul, you know who he becomes, so, at some point, will they have push the character somewhat unnaturally to connect this guy we are watching to his predetermined end point?

I'm sure the writers are up to the challenge, as they haven't let me down yet
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We had a pretty good idea of where Walter was going in BB. It was in the title of the show and Gilligan also made it clear in various interviews.

 
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PlasmaDogPlasma said:
We had a pretty good idea of where Walter was going in BB. It was in the title of the show and Gilligan also made it clear in various interviews.
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General direction maybe, but the pace of his transformation was organic and not set at a predetermined pace.  It's not just the arc, but we have to get to a Saul that open an office on a strip mall with the garish office with a the Constitution on the wall

 
Rove! said:
General direction maybe, but the pace of his transformation was organic and not set at a predetermined pace.  It's not just the arc, but we have to get to a Saul that open an office on a strip mall with the garish office with a the Constitution on the wall
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He is well on his way. He is Slipping Jimmy with a law degree.  A chimp with a gun.  he is already well acquainted with the criminal world in his town and is making connections, like Mike.  At this point anything but the inevitable end would be forced. 

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
Not difficult for me to imagine.  In my experience people hide things behind items and under items.  I would have pulled out the furniture to look behind it for air vents and to check molding and flooring and would have flipped the furniture to look underneath it on the inside of it.  I also would look for screws on items that appear to have a lot of head damage, slide marks on carpets and flooring, and my personal favorite basement PVC pipes that appear to go nowhere.
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Dude, quit giving away all my hiding spots!!!

 
Officer Pete Malloy said:
You mean decide to be a lawyer?
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Rove! said:
General direction maybe, but the pace of his transformation was organic and not set at a predetermined pace.  It's not just the arc, but we have to get to a Saul that open an office on a strip mall with the garish office with a the Constitution on the wall
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They've already spent a dozen or so episodes without hardly mentioning Saul, so I would think it's safe to say they are going to take their time. 

 
Rove! said:
Fantastic episode....

one thing i worry worry about...

one of the things that made BrBa great is that the characters and plots evolved organically.  The characters followed somewhat natural arcs.

with Saul, you know who he becomes, so, at some point, will they have push the character somewhat unnaturally to connect this guy we are watching to his predetermined end point?

I'm sure the writers are up to the challenge, as they haven't let me down yet
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There are still a whole lot of things they can do to pretty much everyone but Mike and Saul that will inform who Saul is by the time we get to the BrBa timeline.

In particular the Brother and the Blondie are serious potential pressure points that will shape Saul's character.

 
Chaka said:
There are still a whole lot of things they can do to pretty much everyone but Mike and Saul that will inform who Saul is by the time we get to the BrBa timeline.

In particular the Brother and the Blondie are serious potential pressure points that will shape Saul's character.
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I am convinced it is going to be Blondie who flips his switch and makes him go full-Saul. 

 
Homer J Simpson said:
Dude, quit giving away all my hiding spots!!!
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Please do not be that small time coke dealer who decides to freeze grams in an ice tray of a refrigerator that has an automatic icemaker.  Also we will look in your toilet tanks, in the cat's litter box, in pots with plants growing in them, in spines of books, and in light fixtures-particularly those with fingerprints all over the glass.  Every time we find a new hiding place (often found by the dogs) that place gets added to a training bulletin which circulates to all members of the Department and which gets emphasized again at in service trainings.

Sugarbowls

diaper pails

raw or frozen hamburger

inside slices of bread, in the sliced loaf, in the fridge

any number of paint cans, oil cans, cleaning supplies in the garage or any other items out there such as plasters or putties.

Inside Christmas ornaments

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
Its a good one, particularly if well finished so that it is not so evident it goes nowhere.
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I always thought about using a galvanized pipe in a closet or crawlspace not too far from a kitchen or bathroom.   Maybe have it actually anchored on one end (threaded) so that it seems to be legit. 

Now I'll have to come up with another place to hide my hypothetical drugs/money/stolen jewelry/POGS

 
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