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[Gatorman]

And I'm assuming at some point Hamlin heard through the country club gossip that Saul was there that day with his theatrics.

They made it a point to show that Hamlin was no idiot last season when Jimmy was screwing w him.  I doubt they'll "dumb him down" now (and Kim doesn't really realize that Howard is smart).  

The obvious direction the show goes is that the cartel creates the issue that causes Jimmy to become Saul, but that's the obvious direction.  Jimmy went "full pinky ring" after his buddy back home passed away.  Now that Kim is interested in the "better call Saul" type persona I see something happening to Kim that makes him go even further into Saul Goodman (but, I am not the writers here.  I'm no where near that talented)

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Body double basically confirmed by Giancarlo Esposito.  But it still doesn't make sense -- that burned body was already in the kitchen.  Lalo escaped to some country-side house, murdered them, burnt the body to a crisp, and then got that body back to his house before the feds and twins got there?

that house was a short walk from Lalo's house. they are practically neighbors I assume.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

So who do we think is tracking Saul/Kim?  They panned to a car following them after meeting with the tax folks.  Lalo is in Mexico so I'm curious.  

Hamlin hired a PI IMO b/c the Kettlemans are calling him a drug addict to every lawyer in town.

 

[kupcho1]

I think Three hired the PI

 

[PhillipPhoto]

So who do we think is tracking Saul/Kim?  They panned to a car following them after meeting with the tax folks.  Lalo is in Mexico so I'm curious.  

Lalo, imo. It doesn't take very long for a drug lord to get from Mexico to New Mexico.

Is Lalo really concerned with Saul/Kim at this point??

Lalo skipped town on a 7 million dollar bail and Jimmy is his lawyer.  Jimmy lied to him about what happened in the desert and Lalo almost killed him and Kim.  They were practically in hiding from him last season before Mike told him he is in Mexico and going to be killed.  

 

[Ghost Rider]

Hamlin hired a PI IMO b/c the Kettlemans are calling him a drug addict to every lawyer in town.

I think this is probably correct.  

I could see the PI doing some eavesdropping and finding out what Jimmy and Kim are doing, Howard arranging a meet with just Jimmy to let him know what they are up to and that he knows that Kim is the instigator (the PI could easily determine that Kim is fully engaged while Jimmy is hesitant about it all), and Jimmy finding a way to distant himself from Kim's shenanigans and letting her take the fall, whether that be disbarment or, worse, prison. 

 

[Capella]

and Jimmy finding a way to distant himself from Kim's shenanigans and letting her take the fall, whether that be disbarment or, worse, prison. 

Nah, no way. He loves her way too much. 

 

[Major]

Nah, no way. He loves her way too much. 

Agreed.  Her arch is fascinating to me and one of the few people who we have no clue about.  It should be noted that BCS is a prequel Offdee   

 

[Psychopav]

POTENTIAL SPOILER FOLLOWS

Per IMDB trivia section, the music playing in the background during the opening scene of workers emptying out Saul's house was featured in the movie Days of Wine and Roses, which is also the title of the episode. While this information may spoil just the episode, I think it's fair to assume, given the use of the musical piece in this particular place in the timeline, that the theme of this season is revealed here. If you know the movie, you've been spoiled. If not, feel free to Google the plot of you want to know. 

I think it's great how this show continues to deliver at such a high level.

 

[dkp993]

So who do we think is tracking Saul/Kim?  They panned to a car following them after meeting with the tax folks.  Lalo is in Mexico so I'm curious.  

Looked like a classic cop car (not a patrol black & white but what plain clothes cops drive).  I think it’s that detective who’s with the prosecutor trying to lock up Lalo.  

 

[Major]

Looked like a cop car.  I think it’s that detective who’s with the prosecutor trying to lock up Lalo.  

Yeah, that's my second choice.  I was reading someone speculating it could be Walt 

 

[Psychopav]

Yeah, that's my second choice.  I was reading someone speculating it could be Walt 

https://youtu.be/YEBUNMVP_8k

 

[kupcho1]

Her arch is fascinating to me

 

[Ghost Rider]

Cannot recall if this was mentioned, but it seems like the only logical conclusion to Lalo's story on BCS is him dying at some point, but then again, Saul talks about him in the BB scene with Walt and Jesse like he is still alive (when they kidnap him and Saul was worried that Lalo had sent them), so not sure how that will play out. 

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I think this is probably correct.  

I could see the PI doing some eavesdropping and finding out what Jimmy and Kim are doing, Howard arranging a meet with just Jimmy to let him know what they are up to and that he knows that Kim is the instigator (the PI could easily determine that Kim is fully engaged while Jimmy is hesitant about it all), and Jimmy finding a way to distant himself from Kim's shenanigans and letting her take the fall, whether that be disbarment or, worse, prison. 

Nah, no way. He loves her way too much. 

nah I’m leaning towards this idea as well that it’s a him or her situation and he lets her take the fall

maybe set up a Kim in a women's prison spinoff

 

[dkp993]

Cannot recall if this was mentioned, but it seems like the only logical conclusion to Lalo's story on BCS is him dying at some point, but then again, Saul talks about him in the BB scene with Walt and Jesse like he is still alive (when they kidnap him and Saul was worried that Lalo had sent them), so not sure how that will play out. 

Saul just might not know of his death (if it happens) at that point.  Or having risen from the dead once already maybe he’s living in fear it could happen again.  Lots of possibilities at this point.  

 

[jerry jones]

I think Three hired the PI

Zed’s dead 

 

[Wingnut]

 

[=Smackdown=]

Holy **** !!!

 

[Galileo]

Well, that's one story line tied up...

 

[Capella]

Damn that was gooooood

 

[Ghost Rider]

Holy balls. 

 

[JaxBill]

I'd like to raise a Jello shot to Nacho.

 

[Willie Neslon]

Why?

 

[Wingnut]

Love how the opening scene made sense at the end of the episode

BTW, the flower was a Desert Bluebell, which symbolizes humility.

Brilliant writing.

 

[wikkidpissah]

Hope there's a bluebell at the end of my Bad Choice Road. Lamento, hermano.

 

[Penguin]

The trailer made it seem that Kim was asking Howard if he was building a case against Jimmy/Saul, but now we know she asked the prosecutor 

 

[Runkle]

We know that all of the characters in that final scene, like Gus, Hector and the Salamanca twins, live to see another day in “Breaking Bad,” but was there a reason why Nacho didn’t take anybody else down with him?

Every single one of them is dead, if you think about it. There’s an ominous thing to this scene, where these are all dead men walking, watching the first man die. But they’re already dead, they just don’t know it yet. The image of Nacho is the image of sacrifice, true love and bravery. It’s not the image of revenge. The ultimate act that defines the character is the act of sacrifice, and not anger, but love.

 

[Wingnut]

SPOILER:

Yeah, if Nacho takes any of them out, his father dies. This was the only way to keep him safe, and he wanted to do it himself rather than give a Salamanca the pleasure.

Edit: spoiler tags?

 

[Major]

Flawless episode.  Can someone remind me who Alvarez is?  I don't recall him being mentioned outside of today's episode.  

 

[Major]

I'd like to raise a Jello shot to Nacho.

Salud

 

[offdee]

Flawless episode.  Can someone remind me who Alvarez is?  I don't recall him being mentioned outside of today's episode.  

- Who is Alvarez?! Gus and Nacho decided Alvarez would get the blame for planning Lalo’s assassination. Nacho even tells Juan Bolsa Alvarez has been paying him for years to work against the Salamancas. But in multiple watchings and re-watchings of both Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, I don’t remember an Alvarez. I Googled such a character and…no results. It would be completely unlike the BCS writers to throw a deus ex machina character into the mix, ever. So, again, who is Alvarez? Theory: What if there is no Alvarez? After all, if Nacho gave Bolsa the name of a real person, that person would be dead. And if Bolsa admitted there was an enemy so dangerous, yet he didn’t even know his name, he would rise to the top of Don Eladio’s hit list.

Better Call Saul recap: Season 6, episode 3 “Rock And Hard Place” (avclub.com)

 

[=Smackdown=]

I'd like to raise a Jello shot to Nacho.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Yeah, if Nacho takes any of them out, his father dies. This was the only way to keep him safe, and he wanted to do it himself rather than give a Salamanca the pleasure.

But will this keep his father safe?  The Salamancas, especially Hector and Lalo, are despicable people, and with Nacho's revelation that he put Hector in the wheelchair, I don't see them turning the other cheek and letting the father live, even if it takes doing it behind the backs of Gus and Juan Bolsa, both of whom they are technically all on the same side with (the hatred between Gus and Hector notwithstanding). 

 

[=Smackdown=]

But will this keep his father safe?  The Salamancas, especially Hector and Lalo, are despicable people, and with Nacho's revelation that he put Hector in the wheelchair, I don't see them turning the other cheek and letting the father live, even if it takes doing it behind the backs of Gus and Juan Bolsa, both of whom they are technically all on the same side with (the hatred between Gus and Hector notwithstanding). 

I'm sure they'll go after Nacho's father. Hector was pumping rounds into Nacho's lifeless body.

Will be interesting to see how Mike defends the Dad.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Cannot recall if this was mentioned, but it seems like the only logical conclusion to Lalo's story on BCS is him dying at some point, but then again, Saul talks about him in the BB scene with Walt and Jesse like he is still alive (when they kidnap him and Saul was worried that Lalo had sent them), so not sure how that will play out. 

Prison.

 

[Capella]

But will this keep his father safe?  The Salamancas, especially Hector and Lalo, are despicable people, and with Nacho's revelation that he put Hector in the wheelchair, I don't see them turning the other cheek and letting the father live, even if it takes doing it behind the backs of Gus and Juan Bolsa, both of whom they are technically all on the same side with (the hatred between Gus and Hector notwithstanding). 

For sure going to be a plot point. Stupid of nacho to reveal that if he wanted to keep pops safe. 

 

[ZADO]

WAAAY too many tv commercials 

 

[ZADO]

I'm sure they'll go after Nacho's father. Hector was pumping rounds into Nacho's lifeless body.

Will be interesting to see how Mike defends the Dad.

Without Nacho alive to see his dad die i no purpose to killing him. His death means nothing to the cartel

 

[wikkidpissah]

i see the producers closing the book on Nacho & his father with this. he went out on the terms of his chosen life, honored his father's wish to end his evil ways in what paltry way he could, kept the Salamancas from flaying him & won Mike as his father's champion. there are bigger fish to fry in the last 8 eps now.

 

[Capella]

i see the producers closing the book on Nacho & his father with this. he went out on the terms of his chosen life, honored his father's wish to end his evil ways in what paltry way he could, kept the Salamancas from flaying him & won Mike as his father's champion. there are bigger fish to fry in the last 8 eps now.

10 episodes I believe, but after reading your post I may be inclined to change my mind and agree. Maybe getting rid of Nacho was clearing the deck for what should be a lot of Saul storylines to come. 

 

[Runkle]

Flawless episode.  Can someone remind me who Alvarez is?  I don't recall him being mentioned outside of today's episode.  

Alvarez is the head of the Peruvian cartel? Right? I assume if Bolsa could get to him, he would have already. 

 

[Gatorman]

10 episodes I believe, but after reading your post I may be inclined to change my mind and agree. Maybe getting rid of Nacho was clearing the deck for what should be a lot of Saul storylines to come. 

Well, yes, but there has to be a better connection of Saul to Mike so he can be called in as the cleaner to Jessie's mishap in season 2 of BB.  Saul seems to be using Huell more than mike at the moment. (Also, lalo is still ongoing).

 

[dkp993]

Flawless episode.  Can someone remind me who Alvarez is?  I don't recall him being mentioned outside of today's episode.  

Alvarez is the head of the Peruvian cartel? Right? I assume if Bolsa could get to him, he would have already

I believe he is.  Also didn’t Bolsa say he already knew Alvarez was involved in the attempted killing of Lalo when Nacho said it was who he was working for.  I’ll have to rewatch but that’s what I thought I heard him say.  

 

[jamny]

It seems like Saul did let Lalo's name slip on purpose. Is he using it in some way to separate with Kim by pushing her away, maybe have her get disgusted with him on his eventual decision to testify or not, so she doesn't get hurt in the end. Giving her an out somehow? I don't believe he would ever let her take the fall for anything.

 

[dkp993]

8 hours ago, Major said:
Flawless episode.  Can someone remind me who Alvarez is?  I don't recall him being mentioned outside of today's episode.  

Alvarez is the head of the Peruvian cartel? Right? I assume if Bolsa could get to him, he would have already
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I believe he is.  Also didn’t Bolsa say he already knew Alvarez was involved in the attempted killing of Lalo when Nacho said it was who he was working for.  I’ll have to rewatch but that’s what I thought I heard him say.  

Here was the exchange….

Nacho - “It was Alvarez. Los Odios, out of Peru. They paid me to set up your nephew. And I did.”

Bolsa- “Alvarez, we know. Los Odios, we know. Was anyone else involved?”

 

 

[JaxBill]

Surprised there was no Lalo sighting this week. I imagine he'll have a substantial role next week.

 

[E Street Brat]

I have a situation here. I want to get back up to speed on this series before I tune in again But only the cartel stuff. A re-watch of the crazy brother stuff seems useless to where this heading. 

Can anybody link me to such a thing?

 

[offdee]

i see the producers closing the book on Nacho & his father with this. he went out on the terms of his chosen life, honored his father's wish to end his evil ways in what paltry way he could, kept the Salamancas from flaying him & won Mike as his father's champion. there are bigger fish to fry in the last 8 eps now.

The subtle shot through the window while they had Nacho on his knees and him saying "you can die easy or hard" with all the torture tools in the forefront view was great.

 

[ZADO]

Alvarez is the head of the Peruvian cartel? Right? I assume if Bolsa could get to him, he would have already. 

 this Twitter user noted the possibilities that namedropping Alvarez brings up: “Who is this “Alvarez” and “Los odios from Peru” in Better Call Saul? Because I don’t recall any Alvarez from Better Call Saul nor Breaking Bad… Is this another namedrop that opens up infinite possibilities? like what they did with the Ignacio and Lalo mentions in Breaking Bad season 2?”


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