***Official "Space Blanket" for Better Call Saul*** (6 Viewers)

[Willie Neslon]

I have a situation here. I want to get back up to speed on this series before I tune in again But only the cartel stuff. A re-watch of the crazy brother stuff seems useless to where this heading. 

Can anybody link me to such a thing?

Better Call the Cartel, Fridays at 9:30pm on Oxygen. It's all the cartel scenes from BCS plus some extra stuff, including a great flashback episode about Gus catching a foul ball at the Red Sox/Cartlon Fisk '75 WS game. The big girl from This is Us is in it too. Enjoy.

 

[joffer]

all caught up.  fantastic.

 

[Desert_Power]

10 episodes I believe, but after reading your post I may be inclined to change my mind and agree. Maybe getting rid of Nacho was clearing the deck for what should be a lot of Saul storylines to come. 

Feel like we're going to get some of the story to overlap with the 1st season of Breaking Bad

 

[kupcho1]

It seems like Saul did let Lalo's name slip on purpose.

 

[kupcho1]

Without Nacho alive to see his dad die i no purpose to killing him. His death means nothing to the cartel

Did you miss Hector pumping shots into Nacho's lifeless body?  Or was there purpose in that action that I missed?

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

though nacho betrayed Lalo, Hector knows Lalo is still alive. the closing scene of Hector shooting the heck out of Nacho imo is him taking out his frustration at Gus because he can't do anything without Nacho as proof. think about that scene, Hector knows all along that it was Gus and that Nacho is the fallguy. so the father storyline i think is done, at least as far as Hector is concerned.

also, Lalo went back into Mexico for "proof" last week. I assumed that meant finding Nacho, but now i'm curious if there is more he thought of. We know Gus wins out in the end, so a lot more there coming.

his father storline aside, i love that Nacho got a whole episode to close out his story.

 

[nysfl2]

Did you miss Hector pumping shots into Nacho's lifeless body?  Or was there purpose in that action that I missed?

Nothing is going to happen to the dad. It would completely ruin the nacho storyline and his sacrifice if the Salamanca's still killed his dad.

Maybe Mike has to do some tricks to keep him safe, but (far more likely), the nacho storyline is closed, as it wouldn't be all that interesting, and there's still a lot of saul to get through, both present and future, and not a lot of episodes to wrap things up.

 

[ZADO]

Did you miss Hector pumping shots into Nacho's lifeless body?  Or was there purpose in that action that I missed?

fair point

 

[Jaysus]

I have a situation here. I want to get back up to speed on this series before I tune in again But only the cartel stuff. A re-watch of the crazy brother stuff seems useless to where this heading. 

Can anybody link me to such a thing?

Check out the Man Of Recaps on youtube.

 

[Jaysus]

Surprised there was no Lalo sighting this week. I imagine he'll have a substantial role next week.

Lalo was in the episode

 

[Major]

I have a situation here. I want to get back up to speed on this series before I tune in again But only the cartel stuff. A re-watch of the crazy brother stuff seems useless to where this heading. 

Can anybody link me to such a thing?

The Fast Forward button is a pretty useful invention

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

Lalo was in the episode

it's Alvarez!

 

[D-Day]

I'm thinking in "Carrot and Stick", Saul says "Wolves and Sheep" a call back to when the Jimmy was a kid in the family shop.  I originally thought this was Saul vs Kettlemans, but I think this is when Saul realizes that he is a sheep and Kim is actually a wolf.  My speculation is that Kim ends up tossing Jimmy to the side to work with Gus. 

Guessing:  Gus/Kim finds blue meth being sold >  sends tip to police to pick up Badger > Kim sends Saul to represent Badger (starting with wrong client as cover) > pulls in maker of blue (Walt) to Saul with threat of Badger deal > Saul saves Badger with Jimmy In and Out > Saul becomes trusted by Walt and sets up meeting with Gus through Mike & Kim directions.  Very complex Viktor/Giselle type scheme.   

 

[offdee]

Feel like we're going to get some of the story to overlap with the 1st season of Breaking Bad

Yep.  It's been confirmed that Walt and Jesse characters will be appearing at some point, so this is likely the case.  Gonna be great.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Yep.  It's been confirmed that Walt and Jesse characters will be appearing at some point, so this is likely the case.  Gonna be great.

But aren't we still 3-4 years away from the beginning of Breaking Bad?  Saul is still just becoming Saul -- not known quite yet as the "criminal attorney" at this point,

 

[jobarules]

It's making sense to me now after my last post realizing BCS is a prequel to the BB storyline.  I never realized that.

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[PhillipPhoto]

But aren't we still 3-4 years away from the beginning of Breaking Bad?  Saul is still just becoming Saul -- not known quite yet as the "criminal attorney" at this point,

Yes.

Do we ever see Gene Takovic again?

Every season opener until this season was a flash forward to Gene in Omaha working at Cinnabon.  This season instead they flash forward to Saul's house being raided, and this being the final season what is that a set up for?

a) Walt and Jesse make at least an appearance at some point this season.  The current timeline between BCS and BB is about 4 years so unless it's a couple of chance encounters it will be included in another flash forward.  And it can't be to Gene's timeline because Walt is dead.  That leaves going into the BB timeline and it's likely that Saul's house raid is towards the end of BB.

b) There are more episodes in this two part season so they might address the Gene timeline later on in a longer flash forward, even taking up an entire episode.

c) We don't see or hear of Kim in BB.  I think what happens to her could be the biggest focus of the season since Jimmy has become Saul and we already know much of Saul's future.  The house raid flash forward, with the bottle stopper falling into the gutter seems like a foreshadowing of her demise. But again, we don't think she is around at the end of BB, however the Viagra and pink under ware proves a female presence!

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Are you a friend of the cartel, or are you a rat?  What triggered Kim to Break Bad?

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I think he ends up being the "dead body double" for Lalo.   It why he tells him to shave

How do the dental records match?  :hippling:

 

[Uruk-Hai]

How do the dental records match?  :hippling:

Lalo paid for his dental work. Lalo & the wife discuss.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

And no way would Saul use baby powder. It would be real coke. 

 

[joffer]

Are you a friend of the cartel, or are you a rat?  What triggered Kim to Break Bad?

above all else, she seems to care the most about being a lawyer. doesn’t matter who the client is, every defendant deserves a good one.  ratting on a client, even if it’s ethically ok, doesn’t seem right to her. 

 

[joffer]

How do the dental records match?  :hippling:

I assumed Lalo got the neighbor’s records and swapped them with his.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

Last week's description of coke from Saul:

"Devil's Dandruff"

 

[Desert_Power]

But aren't we still 3-4 years away from the beginning of Breaking Bad?  Saul is still just becoming Saul -- not known quite yet as the "criminal attorney" at this point,

Yes, I get that. Just saying I could see some larger shift in the timeline, particularly with a part 2 season structure.

The Walt and Jesse sightings could always just be something in the background too (believe the BCS story is around the time he started working at the carwash).

 

[wikkidpissah]

Yes, I get that. Just saying I could see some larger shift in the timeline, particularly with a part 2 season structure.

The Walt and Jesse sightings could always just be something in the background too (believe the BCS story is around the time he started working at the carwash).

yeah, they gotta arc it up to Gene at some point - whether in a similar fashion to Walt returning from NH or, preferably, in an ep before the last one - so they can arc it up thru BB during that. as i said earlier in the thread, Odenkirk said in the pre-season publicity that he was pleasantly surprised how well the producers wove BCS into BB in the final season.

 

[jobarules]

I still can't get over someone watching this show for 6 seasons and not realizing it was a prequel. Did you think Mike and Gus came back to life?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I still can't get over someone watching this show for 6 seasons and not realizing it was a prequel. Did you think Mike and Gus came back to life?

Could be a reboot.

 

[Moonlight]

But aren't we still 3-4 years away from the beginning of Breaking Bad?  Saul is still just becoming Saul -- not known quite yet as the "criminal attorney" at this point,

The feds hauling away his personal property and lavish lifestyle symbols are an aftermath of BB. Also in earlier episodes they showed him in hiding as a Cinnabon employee which is post BB.

These snippets offer you glimpses and teases of Jimmy's future but so far have omitted anything regarding Kim's future.

 

[Psychopav]

Maybe every Gene season opener comes earlier in time than the one before it.

 

[pantherclub]

Maybe every Gene season opener comes earlier in time than the one before it.

refresh my memory, is Gene/Jimmy/saul running from the feds or the cartel?  Or both?

 

[JaxBill]

refresh my memory, is Gene/Jimmy/saul running from the feds or the cartel?  Or both?

I have beenp assuming he becomes Gene as part of witness protection to testify against cartel. Not sure that we have seen definitive proof of that though. 

The uniforms of the movers in this season opener matched Mike's movers so maybe the cartel is hiding him from feds???

 

[Psychopav]

refresh my memory, is Gene/Jimmy/saul running from the feds or the cartel?  Or both?

All we know I think is that he used the services of the vacuum cleaner dude.

 

[PhillipPhoto]

The feds hauling away his personal property and lavish lifestyle symbols are an aftermath of BB. Also in earlier episodes they showed him in hiding as a Cinnabon employee which is post BB.

These snippets offer you glimpses and teases of Jimmy's future but so far have omitted anything regarding Kim's future.

None of that changes the fact that current timeline in BCS is still 3-4 years before the beginning of BB. 

 

[Runkle]

I have beenp assuming he becomes Gene as part of witness protection to testify against cartel. Not sure that we have seen definitive proof of that though. 

Huh? He becomes Gene when he uses the vacuum cleaner guy to get a new "clean" identity to avoid the cartel and the cops. Just escape and be free, not dealing with the past. If he was in witness protection, he would have called them when he was discovered by someone who recognized him from the TV commercials, not the vacuum cleaner guy, and wouldn't have been asked to pay a ton of money to relocate again.

 

[pantherclub]

All we know I think is that he used the services of the vacuum cleaner dude.

granted its on me because I didnt do a rewatch of the past seasons, but did Saul commit any crimes?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

granted its on me because I didnt do a rewatch of the past seasons, but did Saul commit any crimes?

yes

 

[Capella]

granted its on me because I didnt do a rewatch of the past seasons, but did Saul commit any crimes?

 maybe my favorite question ever asked on this board is when that came up in the BB thread. 

 

[identikit]

Paraphrased, from Jessie:

We don't just want a criminal lawyer. We want a criminal.....lawyer

 

[Scoresman]

Dang.  We've recently had people ask if BCS was a prequel, whether Saul was in witness protection, and whether or not Saul did anything illegal.  Wow.  

 

[Desert_Power]

granted its on me because I didnt do a rewatch of the past seasons, but did Saul commit any crimes?

Not as many as Honk, that's for sure.

 

[Psychopav]

Dang.  We've recently had people ask if BCS was a prequel, whether Saul was in witness protection, and whether or not Saul did anything illegal.  Wow.  

Wait, BCS is a prequel? To what?

 

[offdee]

Wait, BCS is a prequel? To what?

Better Call the Cartel (on the Oxygen channel)

 

[dkp993]

Dang.  We've recently had people ask if BCS was a prequel, whether Saul was in witness protection, and whether or not Saul did anything illegal.  Wow.  

So wait, you’re telling me the Gus from BB is the same Gus from Better Call Saul?

 

[identikit]

So wait, you’re telling me the Gus from BB is the same Gus from Better Call Saul?

Twin brother Grimaldo posing as Gus

 

[dkp993]

Twin brother Grimaldo posing as Gus

Ah, that makes sense, otherwise that would mean the 2 shows are tied together.  That can’t be.  

 

[identikit]

Ah, that makes sense, otherwise that would mean the 2 shows are tied together.  That can’t be.  

Goes by Grim

 

[wikkidpissah]

Grim Fring sounds like a boys' sexual practice

 

[arrow1]

So I just watched Season 6 on AMC+, finishing with the "American Greed" trailer.  What's next?

 

[Capella]

The two Gus houses connected by a tunnel were extremely cool but may be the most unrealistic thing I’ve seen in the breaking bad universe. How on earth could something like that be built in a residential neighborhood.