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***Official "Space Blanket" for Better Call Saul*** (1 Viewer)

offdee said:
Why not just keep the gun on his ankle, cut the lights, reach down to his ankle for the gun and shoot Lalo?
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He's captured, frisked and is taken there at gunpoint?  Has some sort of story to show whomever where the lab is being built and it would be a safe place to eliminate him?  It's all speculation, especially the Lalo part, but here are the facts:

1 - He picks up the electrical chord where one is plugged into another.  Generator electricity is running the lights.

2 - He deliberately paces from that spot over to the excavator and hides the gun.

 
Gilroy34 said:
Who is Ziegler and who was the woman Lalo met in the bar? And what was that that Lalo stole from the house?
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The item was a slide rule cast into epoxy resin.  At this point it's just a paperweight/desk ornament.  A slide rule is a form of a calculating device newer than an abacus and older than modern day electrical calculators.  Only old school mathematicians and engineers would know what they are or how to use them. I have a cheep plastic version sitting on my desk, I don't know how to use it.  One of my engineering professors in college had a collection of them.

PS.  I don't think he stole it.  I think he just made note of the maker's mark/sticker on the bottom.

 
PhillipPhoto said:
The item was a slide rule cast into epoxy resin.  At this point it's just a paperweight/desk ornament.  A slide rule is a form of a calculating device newer than an abacus and older than modern day electrical calculators.  Only old school mathematicians and engineers would know what they are or how to use them. I have a cheep plastic version sitting on my desk, I don't know how to use it.  One of my engineering professors in college had a collection of them.

PS.  I don't think he stole it.  I think he just made note of the maker's mark/sticker on the bottom.
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What I don't understand is how Lalo even knows about Ziegler or his widow.

 
The thing I don't get about the Howard storyline is that he has somebody tailing Jimmy. Won't Mike's guys see that Jimmy is being followed and eliminate him? Or is that planned?

 
GreenNGold said:
I think we are all cutting them slack for this... however, that has nothing to do with AMC's decision to split the season with a break in the middle.  The episodes are done, they are choosing to air them this way. 
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Actually another post just reminded me of why they split the season -- it's so they are eligible for 2 year's worth of Grammy's or whatever the awards are called for TV shows. 

 
If I ever wanted to know what watching paint dry would be like, now I know. That was this series "The Fly" episode.

 
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Capella said:
Yea I watch dozens of shows a year. I don’t know how people remember details like that. 
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I was so confused how Lalo knew of Zeigler. I dont binge this show on Netflix. I watched each season as it came out. 4 years is a LOOOONNNGGG time. Then I see someone made a youtube video of Lalo saying Werner Zeigler for 10 hours straight and realize I have no shot.

 
belljr said:
season 4

Lalo tailed Mike when they were building the lab and Ziegler went to the bar..... lalo tracked down the money that was wired home..... i forget exactly how but he did
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A cash store was where Lalo committed the murder he got arrested for later. Was it Zeigler info he got there?

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hitc.com/en-gb/2022/05/10/in-liebe-diene-jungs-better-call-saul-meaning-translation-werner-ziegler/%3famp

Lalo Salamanca tracked back to the Travel Wire where Werner had picked up some money sent by his wife and Lalo managed to find Werner’s contact details, even calling the architect and learning a few scant details about Gus’s plans.

Lalo was talking to Zeigler when Mike caught up to Zeigler. 

 
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In the opening scene when the paperweight is being made towards the end there's a reflection of the maker. I'm sure reddit or twitter is all over who it is.

 
Prediction:

The PIs following Kim get suspicious of the PI following Saul. They follow him to Howard and somehow end up killing Howard. Somehow Kim gets caught up in it due to this scam she is running and goes into hiding via vacuum cleaner guy.

 
I know a lot of folks prefer the Netflix/Ozark binge the whole season at once thing but I love hearing all the theories and speculating each week.  Makes the show more interesting and suspenseful.  What I can do without is waiting a few years between seasons but I'll cut BCS some slack with Covid and Odenkirk's health.

On another note, do you BCS/BB fans really enjoy Ozark?  I tried to get into and watched the first two seasons.  Found it more comedic than anything.  Couldn't take it that serious and stopped watching.

 
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jobarules said:
If I ever wanted to know what watching paint dry would be like, now I know. That was this series "The Fly" episode.
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"The Fly" was an interesting episode, in particular with the backstory of its creation--Gilligan was running way over budget for the season and needed a bare bones script to get back on pace.

This episode compares somewhat to The Sopranos and "In Camelot".

 
krista4 said:
Decided to do a last-minute rewatch of Season 5, so I hadn't caught the new season until Friday/yesterday.  I'm excited that I can now read the thread again!   I've always learned of stuff from this thread that I missed in my own watch, though this time there were fewer, probably because I'd gone straight from the rewatch into this.

Despite so many great scenes over the years, nothing to me had ever matched the emotion of Mike's "I broke my boy" scene way back in Season 1...that is, until the sequence of Nacho's call with his father and then his death.  Holy ####.  We knew he wasn't going to make it, but that was spectacularly written and even more spectacularly acted.  Wow.

Interesting discussion of Kim.  I have no idea what ultimately will happen to her, but I'm in the camp that she is not "turning" into Saul.  She's always been a lot more complex than he is as a character, and she's always been made of the "sterner stuff" (remember when she walked several miles home toting a cello as a child, to make a point?).  Jimmy is an emotional wreck at times, which leads him to mess up (just in the past few episodes, there was his saying "Lalo" to the prosecutor, being unable to give a coherent story to Lalo himself, etc.).  It's because he's not as sure of who he wants to be, whether he really wants to go full "Saul Goodman."

Kim, on the other hand, knows who she is and believes in her own causes, even when others might see her actions as evil.  It's her strong inherent belief in her own goodness that allows her to stay cool and calm - visiting Lalo at the jail, saving Saul's ### from Lalo, confronting the guys tailing her, etc.  And, of course, the attempt to take down Howard.  She genuinely believes that she and Jimmy and others have been wronged by him (and she could be right), so any actions she takes are justified in her mind.  That's why she was surprised that they could be the "evil" ones. 

We're seeing more of the bad side but it's been there all along.  It's not that she doesn't have a moral compass but that her compass points solely toward fairness, and all of what she does fits this fundamental goal.  That doesn't mean that her sense of what is fair isn't ####ed up, but she sees herself as more of a Robin Hood, helping to level the playing field for the downtrodden.  That comes out in good ways, such as the pro bono work, but also increasingly in negative ways.  But the actions all come from the same place and are, in her mind, "good."
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I've been very close to my Father my whole life.  Like Nacho's Dad, an honest and honorable man.  He never succumbed to the reindeer games of the family he married into like his son happily joined.  With the proverbial gun to my head, tears were streaming down my face.  

 
krista4 said:
As if I didn't already type enough, another little bit about Kim is that I've found it interesting to see how she handles situations as a lawyer where the ethical principles surrounding representation of her client comes up against her mindset of striving toward what is fundamentally fair.  That's where Jimmy had to come in.  She could, for instance, still say to herself she was representing Mesa Verde to the best of her ability because she recommended to them to move the call center.  When they didn't agree, she allowed Jimmy to do his magic to get what she believed was most fair to the world as a whole.  Remember how angry she was when she told Mesa Verde that she tried to tell them they should move it and they wouldn't listen? 

Same situation with the kid with wife/baby who wasn't going to take the deal she'd negotiated.  OK, I did my best for you, and if you can't see that, then I'll let Jimmy come in and maneuver the situation.  She still thinks she's done the right thing on both sides.

Have I mentioned how much I love how complex they've drawn this character to be? 
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Love Kim so much.  I would like to have her and Grace Van Owen in her prime litigate all over me. 

 
Major said:
I know a lot of folks prefer the Netflix/Ozark binge the whole season at once thing but I love hearing all the theories and speculating each week.  Makes the show more interesting and suspenseful.  What I can do without is waiting a few years between seasons but I'll cut BCS some slack with Covid and Odenkirk's health.

On another note, do you BCS/BB fans really enjoy Ozark?  I tried to get into and watched the first two seasons.  Found it more comedic than anything.  Couldn't take it that serious and stopped watching.
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I like Ozark better

 
Major said:
On another note, do you BCS/BB fans really enjoy Ozark?  I tried to get into and watched the first two seasons.  Found it more comedic than anything.  Couldn't take it that serious and stopped watching.
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Not really. Final season was horrendous. It was an ok show, nothing I’ll watch any part of again. There was a lot of good acting at least. 

 
jobarules said:
Prediction:

The PIs following Kim get suspicious of the PI following Saul. They follow him to Howard and somehow end up killing Howard. Somehow Kim gets caught up in it due to this scam she is running and goes into hiding via vacuum cleaner guy.
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 Or Kim, not realizing that it is Howard's guys who are following her and not Mike's, gets busted doing something extremely illegal and/or unethical, which leads to her downfall.  

 
Capella said:
The two Gus houses connected by a tunnel were extremely cool but may be the most unrealistic thing I’ve seen in the breaking bad universe. How on earth could something like that be built in a residential neighborhood. 
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I assumed that the two houses were connected by their backyards, so they didn't need to cross any roads, sewer lines, etc. It doesn't seem that impossible to cut through a basement wall and use small equipment (or just a bunch of guys with shovels) to dig a tunnel fairly quietly.

 
The one thing so underrated in all these shows is the music.  I think the Crown takes the cake on that.  Ozark and The Americans were pretty solid.  I think that's one thing missing in BCS.  The score/songs don't feel integral to the show just IMO. It's isn't as solid as BB when it comes to the songs chosen.   But the plot is excellent when you know BB.

I had the chance to spend an entire day at the Universal Studio sound area a few years ago.  A whole orchestra rolled in and played a movie score.  There are entire rooms where they make the sounds effects ... tires screeching, keys rattling, water drops, etc.  So much goes into the sound it's crazy.  I spend half my time in these shows trying to figure out what props they are using to make stupid things like paper rustle 🤣.  They have so many props to make sounds effects it's crazy.

 
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Brunell4MVP said:
The one thing so underrated in all these shows is the music.  I think the Crown takes the cake on that.  Ozark and The Americans were pretty solid.  I think that's one thing missing in BCS.  The score/songs don't feel integral to the show just IMO. It's isn't as solid as BB when it comes to the songs chosen.   But the plot is excellent when you know BB.

I had the chance to spend an entire day at the Universal Studio sound area a few years ago.  A whole orchestra rolled in and played a movie score.  There are entire rooms where they make the sounds effects ... tires screeching, keys rattling, water drops, etc.  So much goes into the sound it's crazy.  I spend half my time in these shows trying to figure out what props they are using to make stupid things like paper rustle 🤣.  They have so many props to make sounds effects it's crazy.
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I always find it funny how they make sounds for knives swinging through the air which in reality they dont make any sounds. but we accept it and it seems realistic.

 
some Seehorn news while we patiently wait for the next episode tonight, her comedy drama with Jim Gaffigan just got picked up by some small studio, called Linoleum. the show is Linoleum, not the studio. didn't look at any details, saw her name on a headline and read the header only. not actually picked up by a distributor yet as far as i can tell. in the announcement photo Gaffigan looks to be wearing a NASA space suit and Seehorn probably his wife.

 
Seehorn was the bright spot in the otherwise forgettable "Whitney" sitcom, which was god how old am I? ten years ago

 
Major said:
I know a lot of folks prefer the Netflix/Ozark binge the whole season at once thing but I love hearing all the theories and speculating each week.  Makes the show more interesting and suspenseful.  What I can do without is waiting a few years between seasons but I'll cut BCS some slack with Covid and Odenkirk's health.

On another note, do you BCS/BB fans really enjoy Ozark?  I tried to get into and watched the first two seasons.  Found it more comedic than anything.  Couldn't take it that serious and stopped watching.
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I think we've talked about this for a while.  I like being able to binge as I find myself more and more with blocks of free time but not consistent.  Also, nowadays it's really hard to stay away from spoilers so I typically try and plan to binge once something drops I really want to see.

Having said that, I will never forget the anticipation we had during the years of Lost.  Say what you will about the last season(s) but those first 3-4 were incredible and with all the online stuff, Easter eggs and everything else I'm not sure anything will ever match it from an anticipation standpoint.  Just because - one of my favorite scenes of television ever - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgsNjTyGsRk

 
I have a new theory regarding Kim. I’m sure it’s not new but it’s what I’m sticking to now. 

Kim goes to prison. 

I keep going back to how we’ve been told that the events of the final season will have us looking at Saul in BB differently. Saul in Breaking Bad is a true “criminal” lawyer. Much more so than even now in season 6 of BCS. There’s more of a dark turn he has to make. He’s based his business around getting obviously guilty people out of trouble by any means possible. I think he’s doing it out of a newfound revenge against the legal system for what it does to Kim. 

I feel like the Gene storyline may eventually have Kim being released and reuniting with Jimmy. 

As for what Kim goes to prison for, I’m sure all the crap they’re pulling on Howard is enough. 

 
I get those saying the last episode was slow or filler but honestly that’s how this show has been from the beginning.  And I don’t mean that in a bad way - it’s been a slow burn almost the entire time.  It’s amazing the quality of it considering how their arms are tied with BB to align with.  I expect it to deliver over these last 8 or so episodes.

 
AAABatteries said:
I get those saying the last episode was slow or filler but honestly that’s how this show has been from the beginning.  And I don’t mean that in a bad way - it’s been a slow burn almost the entire time.  It’s amazing the quality of it considering how their arms are tied with BB to align with.  I expect it to deliver over these last 8 or so episodes.
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 Breaking Bad was a slow burn early on, but it eventually picked up and there were numerous times where it felt like the storyline was sprinting in a good way (like the last six episodes of Season 4).  There are now only seven episodes left of Better Call Saul, and it still feels like the storyline is slowly crawling.  The show just isn't terribly exciting. 

 
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