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No way. Andrea and Shane were both annoying as hell. Carol is a bad mofo.
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***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (5 Viewers)
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Disco Stu
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
Not this year and possibly not next year, but at some point they will need to fast forward into the future and introduce a grown up badass Carl and get rid of that lack of talent one they have now. I think that would be a cool twist to the series. It would be easy to age the others.
Harry Manback
Footballguy
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Good lord, no. Had Shane not brought about his own demise when he did, we would have needed her to off him and prevent his idiocy from killing them all somehow.
snogger
Footballguy
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packersfan
Footballguy
Given the inexplicably ignorant things Andrea did throughout Season 3 her ultimate demise was nothing short of a mercy killing.
El Floppo
Footballguy
me too. we could line up 5 guys across from 5 guys at 10 yards and not come close to hitting eachother.
I guess we needed wiffle-ball bats
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Yeah, character development isn't exactly WD's strong suit, and Carol represents the only remotely successful attempt at it.
El Floppo
Footballguy
character arc is typically: act rationally... do something irrational and stupid to move the plot along... go back to acting rationally.
kentric
Footballguy
Nah. The opening on a WBB was too large and it only went on for a cm or two. You needed something thinner and longer. Even using your hands to stabilize it, they still went all over the place.
bigbottom
Footballguy
kentric
Footballguy
Josie Maran
Footballguy
And here comes a page of Whiffle arguments...
bigbottom
Footballguy
kentric
Footballguy
kentric
Footballguy
packersfan
Footballguy
I said the same thing. If you're #####ing about this episode you just don't like the show.
kentric
Footballguy
It was a great episode and I love the show. I also like pointing out things that don't make sense though. As someone previously posted, why in the world are they wasting 500 rounds of ammo to force the group to the train car? It made no sense. Pointing out points like this makes for an interesting discussion IMO. I mean, where else can you have a two page discussion on the use of wiffle ball bats?
An added benefit is it keeps the thread up top for new comments and easier access.
hagmania
Footballguy
Josie Maran
Footballguy
You should probably stop watching.I liked about 50% of the episode.
Harry Manback
Footballguy
You don't think they'll be heading right back there once the folks from Terminus start hunting them? The folks remaining at Terminus will be dragged out this entire season. Mark my words.
Jayrok
Footballguy
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
packersfan
Footballguy
hagmania
Footballguy
kentric
Footballguy
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
mr roboto
Footballguy
There are three types of people complaining about that episode.1. Trolls who like to stir the pot.
2. Snobs who have to come in an swing their literary ##### around to show off (who despite their distain for how bad the show is still watch every week).
3. Old middle school teachers who hate everything.
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Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
5: fans of the show who find the silly things silly- and are able to talk about them without diminishing their own ability in liking the show.
you guys (WD apologists) don't have to defend every single thing- there's a lot of bizarre and poorly written stuff in this show... learn to embrace and enjoy it. there is a middle ground here.
you guys (WD apologists) don't have to defend every single thing- there's a lot of bizarre and poorly written stuff in this show... learn to embrace and enjoy it. there is a middle ground here.
packersfan
Footballguy
I agree. I've been critical of the show where I believe it's warranted. But I still thought the premiere was sensational. In my opinion if you're #####ing about it, you're just looking for things to ##### about. That was damn good television in my opinion.
El Floppo
Footballguy
It was good stuff... doesn't make the other things disappear. and those other things didn't keep it from being good stuff.
packersfan
Footballguy
Guess it all comes down to those other things and how significant they really are. For me, I focus on the story and characters. If something occurs which mucks up one or both of those things (like Andrea in Season 3) that's a significant problem with the show. Building a moat around the prison or wondering why the lawns are always mowed? Not so much.
Josie Maran
Footballguy
My first thought was "well you don't even need #3, Tanner's got the first two locked down."
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kentric
Footballguy
This one.
I'm not sure why people get so defensive about minor criticism of the show. I agree that it was an awesome episode, but I enjoy discussing actions that don't necessarily make sense (in a zombie filled world).
Harry Manback
Footballguy
Harry Manback
Footballguy
Why can't I enjoy the show/episode while still having minor criticisms?
Oh, it hurts your feelings? Oh, you personally wrote this and take offense at my criticisms? Sorry.
Oh, it hurts your feelings? Oh, you personally wrote this and take offense at my criticisms? Sorry.
packersfan
Footballguy
So based on the Season 5 trailer we know the following is coming up:
Gareth joins the group and the plan appears to be to head to DC.
Rick may not be on board with that plan. There appears to be a confrontation of sorts between him and Abraham.
Others from Terminus may be with him. At one point Gareth says "You don't trust us" plural.
3 people from the group are taken, missing, something. Both Sasha and Rick reference the group not being together.
So what will be interesting to see is how the group brings in Gareth. What could possibly occur that would lead them to accept him into the group even on a short-term basis?
Rick may not be on board with that plan. There appears to be a confrontation of sorts between him and Abraham.
Others from Terminus may be with him. At one point Gareth says "You don't trust us" plural.
3 people from the group are taken, missing, something. Both Sasha and Rick reference the group not being together.
So what will be interesting to see is how the group brings in Gareth. What could possibly occur that would lead them to accept him into the group even on a short-term basis?
dhockster
Footballguy
I agree with someone that said that maybe Morgan is showing up at terminus sometime in the future.
No one in Rick's group appeared to leave marks on the trees. Therefore it would have to be someone else following Rick's group that left the marks. It would make sense that a Terminus person followed Rick's group and left marks for other Termites to follow. Maybe, as someone else speculated the gum chewer was not killed by Tyresse and he ends up following Rick's Group. He leaves the marks and Morgan (and perhaps others) ends up following them to catch up to Rick and his group.
The gum chewer catches up to Rick's group and kills Tyresse proving his point that Tyresse is too good to live in the current world.
That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
No one in Rick's group appeared to leave marks on the trees. Therefore it would have to be someone else following Rick's group that left the marks. It would make sense that a Terminus person followed Rick's group and left marks for other Termites to follow. Maybe, as someone else speculated the gum chewer was not killed by Tyresse and he ends up following Rick's Group. He leaves the marks and Morgan (and perhaps others) ends up following them to catch up to Rick and his group.
The gum chewer catches up to Rick's group and kills Tyresse proving his point that Tyresse is too good to live in the current world.
That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
packersfan
Footballguy
I'm liking this idea as well, It would also explain why that scene had a bit of a disjointed feel to it aside from just coming after the credits.
mlball77
Footballguy
Interesting points you make. I also like Dhockster's theory that gum chewer is the one leaving the markers for the trail Rick's group is taking (don't like the killing Tyrese part, though).
I really wonder what Gareth could use for leverage in order to team up with Rick's group? Does he know where Beth is being kept? Does Gareth (et al.) save Rick's group from a bad situation/person? It will be interesting to see how this element of the story unfolds.
How do you know three people are missing or have been taken from the group? I'm sure I'm spacing it, but all I can come up with is Beth.
Definitely seems like Rick and Abraham will have some differences along the line, as Andrew Lincoln said in an interview that they are both alphas. Could make for an interesting dynamic.
How do you know three people are missing or have been taken from the group? I'm sure I'm spacing it, but all I can come up with is Beth.
Definitely seems like Rick and Abraham will have some differences along the line, as Andrew Lincoln said in an interview that they are both alphas. Could make for an interesting dynamic.
bigbottom
Footballguy
Not really defensive at all. In fact, the show has been more miss than hit for a while now. But i thought this particular episode was, front to back, the best episode I've seen in a long time. I was so excited (relieved?) that the premiere delivered way beyond expectations.
bigbottom
Footballguy
Interesting points you make. I also like Dhockster's theory that gum chewer is the one leaving the markers for the trail Rick's group is taking (don't like the killing Tyrese part, though).
I really wonder what Gareth could use for leverage in order to team up with Rick's group? Does he know where Beth is being kept? Does Gareth (et al.) save Rick's group from a bad situation/person? It will be interesting to see how this element of the story unfolds.
How do you know three people are missing or have been taken from the group? I'm sure I'm spacing it, but all I can come up with is Beth.
Definitely seems like Rick and Abraham will have some differences along the line, as Andrew Lincoln said in an interview that they are both alphas. Could make for an interesting dynamic.
I really wonder what Gareth could use for leverage in order to team up with Rick's group? Does he know where Beth is being kept? Does Gareth (et al.) save Rick's group from a bad situation/person? It will be interesting to see how this element of the story unfolds.
How do you know three people are missing or have been taken from the group? I'm sure I'm spacing it, but all I can come up with is Beth.
Definitely seems like Rick and Abraham will have some differences along the line, as Andrew Lincoln said in an interview that they are both alphas. Could make for an interesting dynamic.
Man, they better have something ironclad to explain it, because it just seems inconceivable that they'd team up with Gareth.
packersfan
Footballguy
Interesting points you make. I also like Dhockster's theory that gum chewer is the one leaving the markers for the trail Rick's group is taking (don't like the killing Tyrese part, though).
I really wonder what Gareth could use for leverage in order to team up with Rick's group? Does he know where Beth is being kept? Does Gareth (et al.) save Rick's group from a bad situation/person? It will be interesting to see how this element of the story unfolds.
How do you know three people are missing or have been taken from the group? I'm sure I'm spacing it, but all I can come up with is Beth.
Definitely seems like Rick and Abraham will have some differences along the line, as Andrew Lincoln said in an interview that they are both alphas. Could make for an interesting dynamic.
I really wonder what Gareth could use for leverage in order to team up with Rick's group? Does he know where Beth is being kept? Does Gareth (et al.) save Rick's group from a bad situation/person? It will be interesting to see how this element of the story unfolds.
How do you know three people are missing or have been taken from the group? I'm sure I'm spacing it, but all I can come up with is Beth.
Definitely seems like Rick and Abraham will have some differences along the line, as Andrew Lincoln said in an interview that they are both alphas. Could make for an interesting dynamic.
And now to address your points:
As far as people from the group being missing both Sasha and Rick talk about some people from the group being missing or not with the rest in the trailer. So something happens to someone.
Whatever leverage Gareth has to get into the group has to be enormous. Obviously nothing else would make a lick of sense given what he's done.
The Rick-Abraham relationship is the one I'm most interested in seeing unfold this season. Two strong leaders whose agendas may not match up. Rick needs strength alongside him but will he and Abraham be able to co-exist? I'm really interested to see where that goes
Whatever leverage Gareth has to get into the group has to be enormous. Obviously nothing else would make a lick of sense given what he's done.
The Rick-Abraham relationship is the one I'm most interested in seeing unfold this season. Two strong leaders whose agendas may not match up. Rick needs strength alongside him but will he and Abraham be able to co-exist? I'm really interested to see where that goes
