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***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (8 Viewers)
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packersfan
Footballguy
I'll put my trust in Gimple if indeed Glenn is alive to have come up with a logical explanation. I'm not gonna pass judgment till I see how it all unfolds.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Any logical explanation should have been shown already. For instance, I could see a case being made for a fantasy sequence, but then that needs to be followed immediately with what actually happened. Killing off a character on screen and then coming back two episodes later with an "oh it was just a dream" thing is the kind of stuff that even soap operas don't do anymore because it's too hokey.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
Due to real life circumstance, I've watched all of this seasons episodes too late at night and far too drunk. I've missed quite a few details. But even I came out of the episode thinking Glen is alive.
packersfan
Footballguy
I agree that on the surface using the "It was just a dream" approach seems rather ridiculous. But I want to see what Gimple does before saying with 100% conviction it isn't going to work.
Notorious T.R.E.
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There's a comic book spoiler here that uber nerds may or may not get mad about, fyi.
packersfan
Footballguy
Notorious T.R.E.
Showdown!™ Administrator
Just thought I better mention it. Someone had already put that in spoilers previously in the thread.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Just like Tyreese, the writers are really screwing up another chance to have a very beloved character. First they make Morgan an ultra-pacifist who makes idiotic mistakes which is already starting to make people sour on him, and now they put his dedicated episode (which everyone really wanted just a few weeks ago) right in the middle of a big cliffhanger when no one wants to be bothered with a flashback episode that doesn't resolve everything.It would be, but not right after the Glenn cliff hanger. I don't need a full 90-minute episode about how Morgan became Donatello from TMNT.I think it would be awesome to see what Morgan did from the time of losing his son, to Clear, to ninja Morgan trekking to Vathey better not dedicate the entire next episode to "morgan's dilemma".
nirad3
Footballguy
Totally agree, it's like they're trying to create buzz that they obviously don't need. This is a massively popular show, why throw gimmicks at us?Just like Tyreese, the writers are really screwing up another chance to have a very beloved character. First they make Morgan an ultra-pacifist who makes idiotic mistakes which is already starting to make people sour on him, and now they put his dedicated episode (which everyone really wanted just a few weeks ago) right in the middle of a big cliffhanger when no one wants to be bothered with a flashback episode that doesn't resolve everything.It would be, but not right after the Glenn cliff hanger. I don't need a full 90-minute episode about how Morgan became Donatello from TMNT.I think it would be awesome to see what Morgan did from the time of losing his son, to Clear, to ninja Morgan trekking to Vathey better not dedicate the entire next episode to "morgan's dilemma".
packersfan
Footballguy
I'm pumped for the Morgan episode. Been waiting for awhile to see what caused his transformation since "Clear."
(HULK)
(Smash)
Quick thought:
Has anyone other than Glenn talked to Nicolas this season?
Any chance there is a 6th sense thing going on here. Glenn killed him in the season 5 finale and keeps seeing him thinking he is alive?
No idea if this is possible, but the thought just occurred to me that Nick is a hallucination of Glenn's.
Has anyone other than Glenn talked to Nicolas this season?
Any chance there is a 6th sense thing going on here. Glenn killed him in the season 5 finale and keeps seeing him thinking he is alive?
No idea if this is possible, but the thought just occurred to me that Nick is a hallucination of Glenn's.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
The answer is very shocking...click here to find out!!!!Totally agree, it's like they're trying to create buzz that they obviously don't need. This is a massively popular show, why throw gimmicks at us?Just like Tyreese, the writers are really screwing up another chance to have a very beloved character. First they make Morgan an ultra-pacifist who makes idiotic mistakes which is already starting to make people sour on him, and now they put his dedicated episode (which everyone really wanted just a few weeks ago) right in the middle of a big cliffhanger when no one wants to be bothered with a flashback episode that doesn't resolve everything.It would be, but not right after the Glenn cliff hanger. I don't need a full 90-minute episode about how Morgan became Donatello from TMNT.I think it would be awesome to see what Morgan did from the time of losing his son, to Clear, to ninja Morgan trekking to Vathey better not dedicate the entire next episode to "morgan's dilemma".
packersfan
Footballguy
Heath did in the last episode.
Also, Maggie and Tara had a conversation about him in the season premiere.
Maik Jeaunz
Footballguy
has TWD ever had a "dream" or "hallucination" where they clearly left a backdoor out of a crappy situation before? if not, it would be weird for them to do it now...
MattFancy
Footballguy
Interesting thought. I seem to remember someone saying something to Nicholas in the opener, but maybe you're on to something
(HULK)
(Smash)
Yeah, it didn't seem right.
I'm coming down in the camp that he just survives somehow.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
snogger
Footballguy
my
Would have been better served as a mid-season cliff hanger.. I know it is making some
asking.. how did he possibly survive??? or in your case finding it "hokey" if is is a Vision/dream sequence..But in the end it is doing EXACTLY what the writers/directors wanted.. Getting everyone interested and guessing for the next two weeks.. as I feel next weeks 90 minute episode is going to focus on Morgan..
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nirad3
Footballguy
my
But in the end it is doing EXACTLY what the writers/directors wanted.. Getting everyone interested and guessing for the next two weeks.. as I feel next weeks 90 minute episode is going to focus on Morgan..
Do they really need to do this, though? 
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
How many days do you think you guys would live if you were in The Walking Dead?
I would make it two months.
I would make it two months.
snogger
Footballguy
I'd say yes, as I have a feeling many are NOT going to be happy with next weeks "Filler" episode.. and why not.. It's not like people are going to quit watching because they left it that way..nirad3 said:snogger said:myIvanKaramazov said:
But in the end it is doing EXACTLY what the writers/directors wanted.. Getting everyone interested and guessing for the next two weeks.. as I feel next weeks 90 minute episode is going to focus on Morgan..
My daughter has been too busy with School and friends to watch this season just been dvr'ing them, but after school yesterday and hearing "Did you see that!?!?!" she came home and immediately caught up.. Buzz = Viewership
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
poll from link within that linked article:
Do you think Glenn is dead?
Beyond a doubt, yes. 15.56% (8,111 votes)
No way, it wasn't definitive. 84.44% (44,002 votes)
Do you think Glenn is dead?
Beyond a doubt, yes. 15.56% (8,111 votes)
No way, it wasn't definitive. 84.44% (44,002 votes)
TheIronSheik
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Porkchop Express
Footballguy
If these idiots can make it this far constantly displaying horrendous judgement and decision making I feel like I could make it years.
snogger
Footballguy
Thought here... Maybe it isn't Glenn's "hallucination" but Nick's..
He's been the one flipping out throughout the run through town looking for a building to burn.. and Glenn constantly pulling him back to reality..
So they get on top of the dumpster, both empty their pistol's and he goes into the
look thinking they are done..
Hallucinates that he miraculously finds one extra bullet... realizes that if he shoots himself he also kills Glenn who he owes... snaps too and they climb the fence and use it to get to the building..
He's been the one flipping out throughout the run through town looking for a building to burn.. and Glenn constantly pulling him back to reality..
So they get on top of the dumpster, both empty their pistol's and he goes into the
look thinking they are done..Hallucinates that he miraculously finds one extra bullet... realizes that if he shoots himself he also kills Glenn who he owes... snaps too and they climb the fence and use it to get to the building..
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dhockster
Footballguy
I like it. Put me down for this option.Thought here... Maybe it isn't Glenn's "hallucination" but Nick's..
He's been the one flipping out throughout the run through town looking for a building to burn.. and Glenn constantly pulling him back to reality..
So they get on top of the dumpster, both empty their pistol's and he goes into the
Hallucinates that he miraculously finds one extra bullet... realizes that if he shoots himself he also kills Glenn who he owes... snaps too and they climb the fence and use it to get to the building..
brun
Footballguy
I definitely find him the most annoying since Andrea. I wish the moron that picked up the gun as he was running away had gone back and shot him.zoonation said:i think he is the least interesting character on the show. Annoying, even.Parrothead said:I think it would be awesome to see what Morgan did from the time of losing his son, to Clear, to ninja Morgan trekking to Vazoonation said:they better not dedicate the entire next episode to "morgan's dilemma".
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
If these idiots standing around the woods in a circle while a zombie somehow stomping around through twigs somehow "sneaks" up on them can survive a year then I think I could make it a couple of decades.
packersfan
Footballguy
Did Game of Thrones?nirad3 said:snogger said:myIvanKaramazov said:
But in the end it is doing EXACTLY what the writers/directors wanted.. Getting everyone interested and guessing for the next two weeks.. as I feel next weeks 90 minute episode is going to focus on Morgan..
packersfan
Footballguy
Gimple said in the article that Nick is dead so not sure how he could hallucinate what we saw with Glenn.I like it. Put me down for this option.Thought here... Maybe it isn't Glenn's "hallucination" but Nick's..
He's been the one flipping out throughout the run through town looking for a building to burn.. and Glenn constantly pulling him back to reality..
So they get on top of the dumpster, both empty their pistol's and he goes into the
Hallucinates that he miraculously finds one extra bullet... realizes that if he shoots himself he also kills Glenn who he owes... snaps too and they climb the fence and use it to get to the building..
The way Gimple worded the answer about how we did see a gun at Nick's temple and not directly saying Nick shot himself has me thinking we could see something involving Glenn having killed him and hallucinating the rest though.
packersfan
Footballguy
Yeah that's what I just posted. Based on the way Gimple was answering the questions I'm thinking it was Glenn's.(HULK) said:
Kirkman talked at Comic-Con about the cool things coming up for Glenn this season. So far nothing has really been super cool unless you consider being devoured a cool thing to experience.
packersfan
Footballguy
the moops
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GreenNGold
Footballguy
Wasn't Glenn involved in any of the group fights with the governor or other groups? If so it is possible he killed someone just not in a one on one situation. I still don't like that angle as he definitely would kill a threat if faced with one and don't want to rewatch every episode to confirm if that is true or not.
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packersfan
Footballguy
Or maybe it will be really great character development and set the stage for something even bigger to come down the road.Great, so we get to see him whimper and mope around for a few episodes
Thunderlips
Footballguy
I don't think I'd get shanked by some wandering zombie like so many of these clowns. I'd either bite it in the days after the outbreak ala FEAR THE WALKING DEAD or I'd piss the wrong human off months/years after and catch a bullet.
the moops
Footballguy
The Big Guy
Fear the Blitz
To layer onto it, what if the shot came from someone else and that is why the splatter hit Glenn in the face like it did. Way too much splatter for a gunshot to the head like that, it wasn't a 44 magnum afterall. So the mystery shooter comes in and wipes out all the walkers and voila...Glenn lives.(HULK) said:
Godsbrother
Footballguy
packersfan
Footballguy
That's a lot of walkers to get rid of who are all on top of Glenn.
If Glenn's alive, I'm starting to think this is more about him killing Nick and somehow becoming seriously messed up as a result. If Kirkman's comments at Comic-Con can be trusted developing Glenn's character in a completely new way as a result of him doing something he'd never done before (something Gimple references in the article I posted) would line up as something cool to see. But ultimately, it all resides with a believable explanation for how he didn't die based on what we saw. That's on Gimple.
Notorious T.R.E.
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I could live indefinitely as a walker. I'd just avoid cliffs and stuff.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
If true, that's not a good development or use of Glenn's character.
IMO, part of Glenn's allure (both in the comic issues that I've read and the show) is that he's NOT messed up. He doesn't carry baggage. I think that's what makes him likeable....
and really makes what happens to him in the book more deplorable.
packersfan
Footballguy
I don't read the comics so I don't know how he was developed there but I agree on the show he's been the one person who's generally refused to succumb to the savagery all around him. But he has teetered on the brink before and maybe this is the moment where he loses control and now he has to deal with the ramifications of what he's done.
To this point things have not fared too well for the moral compass of the show. They typically end up dying. Maybe with Glenn, Gimple has other plans. The way he harped on Glenn never having killed a human in the article sure makes it seem like that's a character point they wanted to emphasize.
