***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (3 Viewers)

[ghostguy123]

Shark suit!

any kind of suit lathered in walker goo.

Just gotta hope it doesnt rain

 

[renesauz]

I seem to recall there being more walkers around the van in the final shot of the episode but definitely could be wrong. Still think they should've shown how he got out of there given how the set-up was clearly to make it seem like all hope was lost. I would've accepted all of the walkers getting behind the van and pushing it to Alexandria. At least that would've been an explanation.

And yes, given how much Gimple likes to play with time distortion we could revisit that scene again. I hope we do in order to provide an explanation. So I will consider this lazy writing with the caveat that I'm free to change my mind should the scene be revisited at a later date.

If Rick stayed quiet in the RV, wouldn't most of the zombies have just walked on past anyway?

 

[Jayrok]

What's bizarre is Z Nation has a smaller budget, actors of lesser overall talent, and a production crew seen as a walking joke ( Asylum), yet consistently makes a much more entertaining zombie show with a clearer overall focus. Walking Dead reaching it's full potential died the day Frank Darabont lost his power struggle with Robert Kirkman. Although Darabont has to eat some of the blame here for his casting. Andrew Lincoln is just horrible.

Oh come on. Lincoln has been good as Rick Grimes. And Z Nation sucks. To each his own. The show doesn't have quite the following as TWD. Sorry if that sticks in some folks' craw.

 

[cstu]

Making my call:

Glenn lives, but it's pregnant Maggie who dies.

 

[Parrothead]

Making my call:

Glenn lives, but it's pregnant Maggie who dies.

in an ironic twist of events, Maggie is the sister who successfully kills herself and her unborn baby mistakenly thinking Glenn is dead

 

[nirad3]

I just love how everyone seems to have forgotten that you can cut off their arms, put em on a leash, and be pretty much invisible.

or cover yourself in bloodits why i have a love/hate thing with this show. The overall rules of it just go up and down at the discretion of the writers.

Remember when the Dead overran the farm and they could level a house, but a few thousand can withstand a make shift wall? And sound is what they are drawn to instead of scent?

They leveled the house? Pics??

And they have always been drawn to sound, then scent when close enough. Nothing has changed there.

More lazy viewing

Liking this schtick

Wasnt schtick this time

That's lazy schticking.

 

[ghostguy123]

I just love how everyone seems to have forgotten that you can cut off their arms, put em on a leash, and be pretty much invisible.

or cover yourself in bloodits why i have a love/hate thing with this show. The overall rules of it just go up and down at the discretion of the writers.

Remember when the Dead overran the farm and they could level a house, but a few thousand can withstand a make shift wall? And sound is what they are drawn to instead of scent?

They leveled the house? Pics??

And they have always been drawn to sound, then scent when close enough. Nothing has changed there.

More lazy viewing

Liking this schtick

Wasnt schtick this time

That's lazy schticking.

We are all lazy. Lazy writers, lazy actors, lazy viewers, lazy posters, and lazy schticking.

The show gets worse and worse but the ratings go up and up. Mirroring the NFL.

 

[bucksoh]

What's bizarre is Z Nation has a smaller budget, actors of lesser overall talent, and a production crew seen as a walking joke ( Asylum), yet consistently makes a much more entertaining zombie show with a clearer overall focus. Walking Dead reaching it's full potential died the day Frank Darabont lost his power struggle with Robert Kirkman. Although Darabont has to eat some of the blame here for his casting. Andrew Lincoln is just horrible.

Oh come on. Lincoln has been good as Rick Grimes. And Z Nation sucks. To each his own. The show doesn't have quite the following as TWD. Sorry if that sticks in some folks' craw.

Z-Nation is a much better zombie show than TWD. It isn't even close been saying that from the start TWD need to fire their writers and hire Zs, they would make a truly great zombie show, with TWD budget. A lot of time I find myself fast forwarding threw TWD because it is so poorly written. Z-Nation has its flaws but I can overlook it with the budget that they have. The writing is still top notch compared to TWD.

 

[ghostguy123]

What's bizarre is Z Nation has a smaller budget, actors of lesser overall talent, and a production crew seen as a walking joke ( Asylum), yet consistently makes a much more entertaining zombie show with a clearer overall focus. Walking Dead reaching it's full potential died the day Frank Darabont lost his power struggle with Robert Kirkman. Although Darabont has to eat some of the blame here for his casting. Andrew Lincoln is just horrible.

Oh come on. Lincoln has been good as Rick Grimes. And Z Nation sucks. To each his own. The show doesn't have quite the following as TWD. Sorry if that sticks in some folks' craw.

Z-Nation is a much better zombie show than TWD. It isn't even close been saying that from the start TWD need to fire their writers and hire Zs, they would make a truly great zombie show, with TWD budget. A lot of time I find myself fast forwarding threw TWD because it is so poorly written. Z-Nation has its flaws but I can overlook it with the budget that they have. The writing is still top notch compared to TWD.

I like cartoons over drama also.

All kidding aside, Z nation is actually pretty sweet, but it simply isn't as good as TWD.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Z Nation is comically bad.

 

[stbugs]

Z Nation is comically bad.

Shocking sometimes that that show is brought up as a better show than TWD. I enjoy Z Nation for what it is, but the post above that they have great writing? Seriously, if people really think that Z Nation is a top notch writing show and TWD is poor writing, they should stop watching. I like both, although I have 4 Z Nation shows on DVR because it got a little silly with pot growing zombies and a half zombie/half human hybrid. How you can put those and great writing in the same sentence is beyond me.

 

[bucksoh]

Z Nation is comically bad.

Shocking sometimes that that show is brought up as a better show than TWD. I enjoy Z Nation for what it is, but the post above that they have great writing? Seriously, if people really think that Z Nation is a top notch writing show and TWD is poor writing, they should stop watching. I like both, although I have 4 Z Nation shows on DVR because it got a little silly with pot growing zombies and a half zombie/half human hybrid. How you can put those and great writing in the same sentence is beyond me.

. No one ever said Z-nation is top notch writing, compared to TWD it is much better though. But hey lets enjoy them marching the zombies down the road for two more episodes before we find out what happened to Glen. The writing in TWD is comically bad but its still a zombie show which is why I watch.

 

[stbugs]

Z Nation is comically bad.

Shocking sometimes that that show is brought up as a better show than TWD. I enjoy Z Nation for what it is, but the post above that they have great writing? Seriously, if people really think that Z Nation is a top notch writing show and TWD is poor writing, they should stop watching. I like both, although I have 4 Z Nation shows on DVR because it got a little silly with pot growing zombies and a half zombie/half human hybrid. How you can put those and great writing in the same sentence is beyond me.

.No one ever said Z-nation is top notch writing, compared to TWD it is much better though. But hey lets enjoy them marching the zombies down the road for two more episodes before we find out what happened to Glen. The writing in TWD is comically bad but its still a zombie show which is why I watch.

What did you mean by this comment below? Seems like you said top notch writing. If you call it top notch compared to one of the top rated shows on TV, you are calling it top notch writing. Why would anyone ever watch a show who's writing is comically bad? Makes no sense to me, but if you want to waste your time, feel free.

The writing is still top notch compared to TWD.

 

[simsarge]

Z Nation is comically bad.

Shocking sometimes that that show is brought up as a better show than TWD. I enjoy Z Nation for what it is, but the post above that they have great writing? Seriously, if people really think that Z Nation is a top notch writing show and TWD is poor writing, they should stop watching. I like both, although I have 4 Z Nation shows on DVR because it got a little silly with pot growing zombies and a half zombie/half human hybrid. How you can put those and great writing in the same sentence is beyond me.

.No one ever said Z-nation is top notch writing, compared to TWD it is much better though. But hey lets enjoy them marching the zombies down the road for two more episodes before we find out what happened to Glen. The writing in TWD is comically bad but its still a zombie show which is why I watch.

They can be more than a little long in the tooth with the main plot deviations. Certainly could've done with out a whole hour (or 10 minutes for that matter) of bo staff guy's back story. Or every other new character that we're supposed to care about.

 

[bucksoh]

Z Nation is comically bad.

Shocking sometimes that that show is brought up as a better show than TWD. I enjoy Z Nation for what it is, but the post above that they have great writing? Seriously, if people really think that Z Nation is a top notch writing show and TWD is poor writing, they should stop watching. I like both, although I have 4 Z Nation shows on DVR because it got a little silly with pot growing zombies and a half zombie/half human hybrid. How you can put those and great writing in the same sentence is beyond me.

.No one ever said Z-nation is top notch writing, compared to TWD it is much better though. But hey lets enjoy them marching the zombies down the road for two more episodes before we find out what happened to Glen. The writing in TWD is comically bad but its still a zombie show which is why I watch.

What did you mean by this comment below? Seems like you said top notch writing. If you call it top notch compared to one of the top rated shows on TV, you are calling it top notch writing. Why would anyone ever watch a show who's writing is comically bad? Makes no sense to me, but if you want to waste your time, feel free.

The writing is still top notch compared to TWD.

[/quottwoCompared to TWD it is better, because TWD writing is so poor. It was a comparison between the two shows, this is after all about zombies so I don't expect it to be great writing. It shouldn't be piss poor, which is what TWD is and has been since after the second season. I watch it because I watch every zombie show no matter how piss poor the writing is.

 

[El Floppo]

lol at that explanation.

 

[modogg]

i love both, and think it is good cause both are significantly different. not sure if Fear the walking dead will give us some overkill, but Znation is a much more "fun" show.

and if this was posted before, apologies. keeping up with this thread is tough. for comic book readers about a possible event in next few episodes related to Ron

Spoiler

I was trying to figure out Ron's play with the scene with Rick. I think a good possibility is that Rick shows Ron how to defend himself, and the whole plan is to shoot Carl, and he shoots his eye out. i am probably 30-40 issues behind, but i think it is significant enough to want to include

 

[ghostguy123]

Someone's brain is comically bad. Snap.

 

[Thunderlips]

Just finished this past episode. Man....I'm rooting for the Walkers and Wolves over these Alexandria jabronis. They just want it more. Those two mooks trying to raid the market looked like they gained weight since the dead started walking.

 

[Thunderlips]

Why has no one made a plate armor suit yet? A group of medieval knights would make short work of zombies with almost no risk.

Noone's thought of checking basements of houses for D&D nerds.

That would be money if they ran across a group of D&D nerds in full on plate mail killing zombies like it was an adventure.

 

[Fariq]

Why has no one made a plate armor suit yet?

It appears the vulnerable spots would be the shoulders ( where TDog was grabbed and bitten), the lower leg/ankle area ( where Herschel was bitten) and in the forearm area ( World War Z probably covers this better) Mountain climbers use leg "gaiters" to protect their lower legs. Can't see why that can't be used against zombies. Some type of leather forearm bracers might be useful. ( If a zombie is trying to bite you, I'd say a lot of people instinctively would try to use their forearm to shield the rest of their body) Rigging some type of shoulder guards might help too. Wouldn't be a full suit of armor, but it would cover some of the more typical bite areas and still offer reduced weight/utility.

I don't see the purpose of having hair though. Just shave it all off. Easier to keep clean, esp when you are on the road a lot and esp if you are suffering from heat from Atlanta. Also zombies can't grab it and drag you down. Essentially you want to tie down or rig down anything that could be grabbed to drag you down.

Bicycles offer silent mobility and the option to carry more gear.

You might fare well during the zombie apocalypse in 2023 providing you are in good health by then.

 

[Jayrok]

What's bizarre is Z Nation has a smaller budget, actors of lesser overall talent, and a production crew seen as a walking joke ( Asylum), yet consistently makes a much more entertaining zombie show with a clearer overall focus. Walking Dead reaching it's full potential died the day Frank Darabont lost his power struggle with Robert Kirkman. Although Darabont has to eat some of the blame here for his casting. Andrew Lincoln is just horrible.

Oh come on. Lincoln has been good as Rick Grimes. And Z Nation sucks. To each his own. The show doesn't have quite the following as TWD. Sorry if that sticks in some folks' craw.

Z-Nation is a much better zombie show than TWD. It isn't even close been saying that from the start TWD need to fire their writers and hire Zs, they would make a truly great zombie show, with TWD budget. A lot of time I find myself fast forwarding threw TWD because it is so poorly written. Z-Nation has its flaws but I can overlook it with the budget that they have. The writing is still top notch compared to TWD.

You forgot to mention "in your opinion' because, this is your opinion. I watched some of Z nation and didn't care for it. To each his own.

 

[ghostguy123]

I watched some of Z nation and didn't care for it. To each his own.

Asylum tends to ride on the "parody" angle with a lot of their films. There is a lot of tongue in cheek and they embrace that they are making super fast "bad movies"

I don't think they originally intended on making a very good show, I think they took a simple Walking Dead concept ( Eugene having a "solution" and needing to be escorted safely across the country) and then soft ripping it with the Murphy character. Along the way though, the show shed it's C list actors and ended up with it's D and E list actors who could just concentrate on making a fun show.

IMHO, the level of effects, even with a small budget, have improved dramatically. I think the pacing and writing and character construction have all gotten better as well.

One of the open criticisms of TWD is it's essentially nihilistic in nature. There is no overall series long arc to hold onto thus it's just rinse and repeat on larger and larger scales. ( i.e. it was a camp - Not Safe, then a farm - Not Safe, then a prison - Not Safe, then a place at the end of the railroad - Not Safe, then a band of survivors at a hospital - Not Safe, and now Alexandria - which is, surprise - Not Safe. )

ZNation isn't perfect, but the caliber of guest stars has grown, it's budget, while still small, looks a little bigger, and the stories they are telling fit hand in hand with their limitations. The structure is much more like the book World War Z, where individual stories dominate. As Murphy and the ZNation gang move across the country, they run into different elements of survival and the human condition. The episode where an all female colony ( run by Kelly McGillis no less) sends out preteen boys to walk to their deaths was actually a pretty interesting social question/issue for a dystopian world.

Personally, I think ZNation does far more with what they are given to start with than TWD does, but I also think it was all by accident. It started off as a typical Asylum parody, but with real time to make a show and using that ability to produce fast, they hit on something interesting here. I will say ZNation probably hits on more of the themes that George Romero started with in terms of the "zombie".

Like you said, to each their own.

This is horrific

 

[snogger]

Having only read up to the Gov. I'm only going off some tidbits I've read... guessing Wade is part of the next group of bada##'s they'll be facing next season...

all that was missing from the "walk it off" after cutting his arm off was "it's just a flesh wound"

Quite an intense episode.. Abraham kind of losing it here

 

[SacramentoBob]

Now the walkers have diabetes.

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

Where is GLENN!?

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

Where is GLENN!?

The Badlands.

 

[higgins]

Deanna

 

[SacramentoBob]

Well that's where Daryl's bike ended up.

 

[shadyridr]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[shady inc]

Did I really watch 20 minutes of that horrible badlands show for THAT??

 

[jamny]

extra cheesy

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Show had been awesome this year

 

[El Floppo]

Diabetic girl with a stupidly stupid death.

Gotta say though, I like seeing them get a win for at least one episode. RPG is going to blow some stuff up fo sho

 

[ghostguy123]

No idea how diabetic girl lasted that long being that stupid. Thought maybe her BS was low and she was delirious. It also made no sense as to why she passed out then got insulin. Weird.

RPGs, cigars, and a gas truck?? Here we go

 

[netnalp]

So Patty was a gas truck. On talking dead they brought up, why did they go to the fenced in area if Patty was hidden in the woods. My guess is there were 2 gas trucks, since the one Daryl finds has the license plate Patty02 or something like that. I forget how many 0's it had.

My guess is Glenn is still alive and they use the gas truck and RPG to save him.

 

[cstu]

Another ####ty episode written by Heather Bellson - she's the one who wrote the episode where a forest blew away but the barn they were in was completely intact.

 

[El Floppo]

So is the idea that the group that was chasing Wade are actually good guys? Made a point of the headless leader being a bit like Rick in looks and chopping hand off. And havent they used that tired headless- surprise! Its old man Smithers!- approach already?)

Totally missed the whole Patty thing. Wade group wanted Patty... to blow up and burn another group of zombies?

Whos on the walkie talkie... glenn?

 

[The Big Guy]

So is the idea that the group that was chasing Wade are actually good guys? Made a point of the headless leader being a bit like Rick in looks and chopping hand off. And havent they used that tired headless- surprise! Its old man Smithers!- approach already?)

Totally missed the whole Patty thing. Wade group wanted Patty... to blow up and burn another group of zombies?

Whos on the walkie talkie... glenn?

I think anyone would want a truck full of gasoline in the zombie apocalypse, that is almost a good as a truck full of food at this point. Yeah yeah...bad gas..blah blah.

Why do you say that they group was chasing Wade and his people? Seems like they got taken/robben by Wade and took the truck back from them. It was a weird start that they did not show Wade, but the comic nerds will have a lot to add to this since Wade is a comic leader. Weirdly with all the Negan talk, I didn't hear any foreshadowing of Wade coming.

 

[Zow]

Yeah that episode kind of sucked.

 

[snogger]

Not sure what people want if they think that episode "Sucked".. Unless that is just the new shtick.. :whoosh:

Thought there were some very intense moments, and I enjoyed it quite a bit..

Too each their own

 

[packersfan]

Other than setting up the arrival of the likely new villain(s) and the voice at the end I spent a lotta time last night looking at the clock.

 

[El Floppo]

So is the idea that the group that was chasing Wade are actually good guys? Made a point of the headless leader being a bit like Rick in looks and chopping hand off. And havent they used that tired headless- surprise! Its old man Smithers!- approach already?)

Totally missed the whole Patty thing. Wade group wanted Patty... to blow up and burn another group of zombies?

Whos on the walkie talkie... glenn?

I think anyone would want a truck full of gasoline in the zombie apocalypse, that is almost a good as a truck full of food at this point. Yeah yeah...bad gas..blah blah.

Why do you say that they group was chasing Wade and his people? Seems like they got taken/robben by Wade and took the truck back from them. It was a weird start that they did not show Wade, but the comic nerds will have a lot to add to this since Wade is a comic leader. Weirdly with all the Negan talk, I didn't hear any foreshadowing of Wade coming.

Agree that ultimately Wade appears to have taken something (either the truck, or something in the duffle- insulin or otherwise not yet shown)... but that, and the fact that a group of guys plowed into the forest with a truck trying to surround Wade and friends made me think they were chasing him. Also the ambush scene, I figured, was set up for Wade. Didn't seem a stretch to think they're after them.

so Wade is comic book character. ok. motiviations ultimately didn't make much sense to me in the episode- unless everything the guy said was a lie... which is entirely possible given the moto-jacking. At this point- it's pretty obvious that there's safety in numbers in the ZA- vs zombies and humans. so people riding off into the sunset when they've been saved by somebody who could've left them to rot... and who says he has a community... doesn't make any sense to me. but I guess I'll get to see what the writers have in store. expectations are pretty low.

 

[phatdawg]

Wade was the leader of the group chasing the people who took Darryl. I don't believe the guy with the two girls who eventually stole Darryl's motorcycle and crossbow was ever named in the episode.

For those who read the comics, I think we will see the crossbow coming into play in the future.

 

[El Floppo]

Wade was the leader of the group chasing the people who took Darryl. I don't believe the guy with the two girls who eventually stole Darryl's motorcycle and crossbow was ever named in the episode.

For those who read the comics, I think we will see the crossbow coming into play in the future.

ah... ... sorry- got that mixed up. thanks.

right- I was talking about the guy with the girls girl.

still love diabetic girl- oh no! there's a zombie under here! better... lay down slowly next to them to get away.

 

[shadyridr]

Who were the people shooting at them and chasing them in the beginning of the episode? Was that Wade's group?

 

[snogger]

Other than setting up the arrival of the likely new villain(s) and the voice at the end I spent a lotta time last night looking at the clock.

Interesting...

I thought the kidnapping of Daryl, his trying to figure out the group that had him and most everything that followed for that story arc was well done..

Didn't really care for them taking Daryl's Cycle and crossbow after he saved them.. But then again, after their experience with the other group, their lack of trust is understandable.

I could have done without the possible Abraham love story arc.. Too many stupid things going on in that arc..

But overall, unlike the Morgan episode and last weeks episode I never found myself

 

[snogger]

Who were the people shooting at them and chasing them in the beginning of the episode? Was that Wade's group?

part of that group.

 

[packersfan]

I thought the Morgan episode was great. These last two have been slow going.

I did like how once again Rick was proven right. This time by telling Daryl they don't need to be recruiting anymore. Daryl thinks they should and it bites him in the ###.

I get the sense they're setting things up for a big payoff to come. I don't have a problem with that and when we look back at this season as a whole these last two episodes may work better within that context. But as far as individual episodes themselves neither did anything for me. I did a lot of clock watching last night which I hardly ever do on this show.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

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