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Because of this thread I tried something. I only follow 4 accounts. All releated to my daughters college/softball/athletics

I have never made a post in my life and only use it for any information above.

I clicked on the for you tab and its nothing but political nonsense - I never viewed political stuff

Quick glance says its about 70-30 right boasting and rubbing it in and the left claiming the end is near.

What hot garbage
Well, it is the biggest news of the day that is dominating the cycle currently. And considering the majority of the country is right, seeming more vocal and are in the position to spike the football then 70-30 seems about what you'd expect to find at the town square.
 
Because of this thread I tried something. I only follow 4 accounts. All releated to my daughters college/softball/athletics

I have never made a post in my life and only use it for any information above.

I clicked on the for you tab and its nothing but political nonsense - I never viewed political stuff

Quick glance says its about 70-30 right boasting and rubbing it in and the left claiming the end is near.

What hot garbage
Well, it is the biggest news of the day that is dominating the cycle currently. And considering the majority of the country is right, seeming more vocal and are in the position to spike the football then 70-30 seems about what you'd expect to find at the town square.
Ftr - I meant it was ALL hot garbage.....
 
I think I may have said this before so maybe I repeat myself, but IMO, online communities are going to be prone to extremism.

30 years ago, if you thought dressing up as Daffy Duck and making love with someone dressed as Bugs Bunny would be the hottest thing ever, you’d be highly unlikely to ever find someone in your town that had a similar outlook. You’d realize that your opinion was in the extreme minority and it would quietly stay in your head. Most everyone else in your circle/the local area would trend towards the moderate as that is what you would be exposed to. One could argue whether this is good or bad.

Today though, you can easily go online and connect to lots and lots of people with the same extreme minority opinion you have. Those folks will not only tend to then cluster together, but it will then start to seem to them that their extreme minority opinion isn’t actually all that rare because they managed to connect with so many others through cyberspace. So then it starts to be put out there more and more and become more accessible as an idea at all. And maybe folks who wouldn’t have even had any idea such a thing existed suddenly start nibbling on the edges and dipping their feet in. So over time, extreme minority ideas can start to work their way into the mainstream.

This doesn’t always have to be a bad thing. It’s really the entire idea behind spreading democracy by exposing the oppressed to it. The hope is that by increasing exposure to good ideas that have been repressed in an area, the idea can become more mainstream and accepted or desired.

But we certainly see the downsides as well.

Just as Twitter has a reputation now of being dominated by “right” leaning views, it’s pretty clear that Reddit leans quite “left”. As groups cluster, views tend to become more and more extreme as the echo chamber reinforces.
Good post. I would expand this to beyond communities/forums though, it’s anything that is paid via advertising, which includes search and traditional media. It’s the same reason why the right complains about google search and its why “news” outlets produce the content they do.
 
I find my 'For You' tab to still be quite varied with differing viewpoints, though perhaps less than it once was. I will also add I find it very plausible Musk's thumb could be on the scale around the election. With that said, there are also countless left-leaning accounts who took their ball and went home in the past couple of years. If the algorithm is showing you more right-leaning tweets, that's certainly part of the reason.

I still count on the For You tab to show me differing sides of arguments, and I could name several prominent people/posters who are gone that I both vehemently disagreed with 95% of the time and miss all the same.
 
You might not believe this, Joe, but I always felt (and I’m both biased and nuts) that arguments we were having in the Shark Pool hit Twitter about two weeks later. Just food for thought. As much as people complain about the Shark Pool, when I take time off from it I’m behind the curve. I just am. The SP, a subscription to your company, and checking out various voices in the FF world are crucial to my competency (questionable though that is) as a fantasy football player.

Thanks I definitely put a huge value on the Shark Pool. It's the highest concentration of smart NFL folks of anywhere I know.
 
I must have a well-curated timeline. I don't get a lot of political stuff except for people that I follow, and I don't follow a lot of "political" accounts. I hardly ever see stuff from opposing views.
 
I'm starting to think Twitter might have more than one algoritm.
I would be more than a little surprised if there wasn't or at least continual A/B testing on the "For You" tab to test for maximal engagement for each individual. What keeps me there longer is going to be different than what keeps you there.
 
FWIW as Twitter is often connected to Tesla.


Shares of Tesla climbed 8% on Friday, pushing the electric vehicle maker’s market cap past $1 trillion.

The company’s stock has rallied about 29% this week.
....
Tesla had a market cap of $807.1 billion through Tuesday’s close. Before this week’s rally, shares of the carmaker were up about 1% for the year. Tesla’s stock is now up about 30% year to date.
 
FWIW as Twitter is often connected to Tesla.


Shares of Tesla climbed 8% on Friday, pushing the electric vehicle maker’s market cap past $1 trillion.

The company’s stock has rallied about 29% this week.
....
Tesla had a market cap of $807.1 billion through Tuesday’s close. Before this week’s rally, shares of the carmaker were up about 1% for the year. Tesla’s stock is now up about 30% year to date.
His net worth is now over $300 Billion, good for him not so sure about the rest of us.
 
FWIW as Twitter is often connected to Tesla.


Shares of Tesla climbed 8% on Friday, pushing the electric vehicle maker’s market cap past $1 trillion.

The company’s stock has rallied about 29% this week.
....
Tesla had a market cap of $807.1 billion through Tuesday’s close. Before this week’s rally, shares of the carmaker were up about 1% for the year. Tesla’s stock is now up about 30% year to date.
$200B of market cap gained. Musk owns 22%. $40B of equity increase. Twitter cost $40B? I know we've had a lot of smart people questioning his purchase of Twitter here, but maybe this Musk guy is good at the business thing lol.
 
FWIW as Twitter is often connected to Tesla.


Shares of Tesla climbed 8% on Friday, pushing the electric vehicle maker’s market cap past $1 trillion.

The company’s stock has rallied about 29% this week.
....
Tesla had a market cap of $807.1 billion through Tuesday’s close. Before this week’s rally, shares of the carmaker were up about 1% for the year. Tesla’s stock is now up about 30% year to date.
$200B of market cap gained. Musk owns 22%. $40B of equity increase. Twitter cost $40B? I know we've had a lot of smart people questioning his purchase of Twitter here, but maybe this Musk guy is good at the business thing lol.
The funny thing is that approximately zero of those people are going to think to themselves "Huh, looks like I misjudged this situation -- maybe I should go back and see where I went wrong." In two weeks or so, somebody will bump this thread with another version of "Elon Musk is a stupid dum-dum" without missing a beat.
 
FWIW as Twitter is often connected to Tesla.


Shares of Tesla climbed 8% on Friday, pushing the electric vehicle maker’s market cap past $1 trillion.

The company’s stock has rallied about 29% this week.
....
Tesla had a market cap of $807.1 billion through Tuesday’s close. Before this week’s rally, shares of the carmaker were up about 1% for the year. Tesla’s stock is now up about 30% year to date.
$200B of market cap gained. Musk owns 22%. $40B of equity increase. Twitter cost $40B? I know we've had a lot of smart people questioning his purchase of Twitter here, but maybe this Musk guy is good at the business thing lol.

He talked about this more on the recent Rogan interview. He freely admits he massively overpaid for it. He said X is "a tough way to do business" and acknowledged the best they could hope for would be possibly investors see a positive result eventually. This was not a financial gain situation for him if you believe what he says.
 
FWIW as Twitter is often connected to Tesla.


Shares of Tesla climbed 8% on Friday, pushing the electric vehicle maker’s market cap past $1 trillion.

The company’s stock has rallied about 29% this week.
....
Tesla had a market cap of $807.1 billion through Tuesday’s close. Before this week’s rally, shares of the carmaker were up about 1% for the year. Tesla’s stock is now up about 30% year to date.
$200B of market cap gained. Musk owns 22%. $40B of equity increase. Twitter cost $40B? I know we've had a lot of smart people questioning his purchase of Twitter here, but maybe this Musk guy is good at the business thing lol.

He talked about this more on the recent Rogan interview. He freely admits he massively overpaid for it. He said X is "a tough way to do business" and acknowledged the best they could hope for would be possibly investors see a positive result eventually. This was not a financial gain situation for him if you believe what he says.
I believe that, he obviously wanted to renegotiate, using the questionable user numbers as a basis. But I don't think it was about the money for him.
 
FWIW as Twitter is often connected to Tesla.


Shares of Tesla climbed 8% on Friday, pushing the electric vehicle maker’s market cap past $1 trillion.

The company’s stock has rallied about 29% this week.
....
Tesla had a market cap of $807.1 billion through Tuesday’s close. Before this week’s rally, shares of the carmaker were up about 1% for the year. Tesla’s stock is now up about 30% year to date.
$200B of market cap gained. Musk owns 22%. $40B of equity increase. Twitter cost $40B? I know we've had a lot of smart people questioning his purchase of Twitter here, but maybe this Musk guy is good at the business thing lol.
The funny thing is that approximately zero of those people are going to think to themselves "Huh, looks like I misjudged this situation -- maybe I should go back and see where I went wrong." In two weeks or so, somebody will bump this thread with another version of "Elon Musk is a stupid dum-dum" without missing a beat.

I think Elon Musk is the greatest person alive in terms of his impact on the world for centuries to come, and it isn’t even close. But for me, Twitter has nothing to do with it.
 
FWIW as Twitter is often connected to Tesla.


Shares of Tesla climbed 8% on Friday, pushing the electric vehicle maker’s market cap past $1 trillion.

The company’s stock has rallied about 29% this week.
....
Tesla had a market cap of $807.1 billion through Tuesday’s close. Before this week’s rally, shares of the carmaker were up about 1% for the year. Tesla’s stock is now up about 30% year to date.
$200B of market cap gained. Musk owns 22%. $40B of equity increase. Twitter cost $40B? I know we've had a lot of smart people questioning his purchase of Twitter here, but maybe this Musk guy is good at the business thing lol.
The funny thing is that approximately zero of those people are going to think to themselves "Huh, looks like I misjudged this situation -- maybe I should go back and see where I went wrong." In two weeks or so, somebody will bump this thread with another version of "Elon Musk is a stupid dum-dum" without missing a beat.

I think Elon Musk is the greatest person alive in terms of his impact on the world for centuries to come, and it isn’t even close. But for me, Twitter has nothing to do with it.

That's an interesting question. I wonder what Musk would say there?

Also, this was interesting. https://nextbigideaclub.com/magazin...ning-elon-musks-impact-society-podcast/44863/
 
I'm still on Twitter but have moved the app to a subfolder and promoted Bluesky to my home screen :oldunsure:
Just joined BlueSky. I had tried a bunch of the other alternatives previously and found all of them extremely lacking. BlueSky seems really promising if they can attract a larger user base. They’re gaining some momentum and have added over 1M users over just the last week.
 
I'm still on Twitter but have moved the app to a subfolder and promoted Bluesky to my home screen :oldunsure:
Just joined BlueSky. I had tried a bunch of the other alternatives previously and found all of them extremely lacking. BlueSky seems really promising if they can attract a larger user base. They’re gaining some momentum and have added over 1M users over just the last week.
This looks exactly like Twitter. What is the benefit of changing?
 
I'm still on Twitter but have moved the app to a subfolder and promoted Bluesky to my home screen :oldunsure:
Just joined BlueSky. I had tried a bunch of the other alternatives previously and found all of them extremely lacking. BlueSky seems really promising if they can attract a larger user base. They’re gaining some momentum and have added over 1M users over just the last week.
This looks exactly like Twitter. What is the benefit of changing?
You get a tiny fraction of the users and they are more likely to be in your echo chamber?
 
I'll be wherever there's (a) robust debate and, somewhat less importantly (b) narrative setting. Right now, that's Twitter. I'm sure it'll be something else in a few years.
 
I'm still on Twitter but have moved the app to a subfolder and promoted Bluesky to my home screen :oldunsure:
Just joined BlueSky. I had tried a bunch of the other alternatives previously and found all of them extremely lacking. BlueSky seems really promising if they can attract a larger user base. They’re gaining some momentum and have added over 1M users over just the last week.
This looks exactly like Twitter. What is the benefit of changing?
You get a tiny fraction of the users and they are more likely to be in your echo chamber?
It does seem like its a similar ideology quitting X and moving there recently.
 
I'm still on Twitter but have moved the app to a subfolder and promoted Bluesky to my home screen :oldunsure:
Just joined BlueSky. I had tried a bunch of the other alternatives previously and found all of them extremely lacking. BlueSky seems really promising if they can attract a larger user base. They’re gaining some momentum and have added over 1M users over just the last week.
This looks exactly like Twitter. What is the benefit of changing?
The benefit is not using a site that is owned by a man nakedly promoting a partisan agenda full of bots and trolls.
 
I'm still on Twitter but have moved the app to a subfolder and promoted Bluesky to my home screen :oldunsure:
Just joined BlueSky. I had tried a bunch of the other alternatives previously and found all of them extremely lacking. BlueSky seems really promising if they can attract a larger user base. They’re gaining some momentum and have added over 1M users over just the last week.
This looks exactly like Twitter. What is the benefit of changing?
The benefit is not using a site that is owned by a man nakedly promoting a partisan agenda full of bots and trolls.
The main benefit right now is that its effectively a Twitter basketball "List" without occasionally stumbling into the "For You" feed (which has averaged naked bosoms 75% of the time the past week and I have been trying to see what's in my feed so its a pretty decent sample for me).

And fwiw, there was a good Odd Lots post last week on how that For You thing is basically useless as a news consumption tool since everything is so out of order (chronologically). But at least I'm getting Sweet James (he's the #1 trial attorney in SoCal if you don't know from the billboards on the 5/405) ads now instead of Temu.
 
I'm still on Twitter but have moved the app to a subfolder and promoted Bluesky to my home screen :oldunsure:
Just joined BlueSky. I had tried a bunch of the other alternatives previously and found all of them extremely lacking. BlueSky seems really promising if they can attract a larger user base. They’re gaining some momentum and have added over 1M users over just the last week.
This looks exactly like Twitter. What is the benefit of changing?

Everyone I know putting any effort into Bluesky has changed solely as a statement against Musk.

Others have joined with a "see how it goes" (like me) as it's a new platform to gain more audience.
 
I'm still on Twitter but have moved the app to a subfolder and promoted Bluesky to my home screen :oldunsure:
Just joined BlueSky. I had tried a bunch of the other alternatives previously and found all of them extremely lacking. BlueSky seems really promising if they can attract a larger user base. They’re gaining some momentum and have added over 1M users over just the last week.
This looks exactly like Twitter. What is the benefit of changing?
The benefit is not using a site that is owned by a man nakedly promoting a partisan agenda full of bots and trolls.
If I lived my life using that sort of heuristic, I would not be able to read a major newspaper, watch any Hollywood movies, watch any television shows, listen to any music, or play most video games. Nearly everything I consume is made by somebody with a different worldview that me.
 
I'm still on Twitter but have moved the app to a subfolder and promoted Bluesky to my home screen :oldunsure:
Just joined BlueSky. I had tried a bunch of the other alternatives previously and found all of them extremely lacking. BlueSky seems really promising if they can attract a larger user base. They’re gaining some momentum and have added over 1M users over just the last week.
This looks exactly like Twitter. What is the benefit of changing?
The benefit is not using a site that is owned by a man nakedly promoting a partisan agenda full of bots and trolls.
If I lived my life using that sort of heuristic, I would not be able to read a major newspaper, watch any Hollywood movies, watch any television shows, listen to any music, or play most video games. Nearly everything I consume is made by somebody with a different worldview that me.
It can also be a point that twitter is now a part of the cacophony rather than a step apart. There is a swirling mass of opinion, commentary, trolling and vitriol on most social media platforms and twitter is no exception and to drown out some of the discordant noise some find it better to move to a new place that hasn't been infected yet. I never consume tv/cable 'news" stations anymore, been 8 years running. I gave up scrolling my yahoo news feed last year as curating it to be a pain in the as and as of today this is the only site outside of pure sports and rotten tomatoes that I visit on line. It's been pretty peaceful for the last few months.
 
I'm still on Twitter but have moved the app to a subfolder and promoted Bluesky to my home screen :oldunsure:
Just joined BlueSky. I had tried a bunch of the other alternatives previously and found all of them extremely lacking. BlueSky seems really promising if they can attract a larger user base. They’re gaining some momentum and have added over 1M users over just the last week.
This looks exactly like Twitter. What is the benefit of changing?
The benefit is not using a site that is owned by a man nakedly promoting a partisan agenda full of bots and trolls.
If I lived my life using that sort of heuristic, I would not be able to read a major newspaper, watch any Hollywood movies, watch any television shows, listen to any music, or play most video games. Nearly everything I consume is made by somebody with a different worldview that me.
It can also be a point that twitter is now a part of the cacophony rather than a step apart. There is a swirling mass of opinion, commentary, trolling and vitriol on most social media platforms and twitter is no exception and to drown out some of the discordant noise some find it better to move to a new place that hasn't been infected yet. I never consume tv/cable 'news" stations anymore, been 8 years running. I gave up scrolling my yahoo news feed last year as curating it to be a pain in the as and as of today this is the only site outside of pure sports and rotten tomatoes that I visit on line. It's been pretty peaceful for the last few months.
I encounter almost none of trolling/vitriol/etc. that other people experience. But I am currently following only 193 accounts, and some of those are just comedy/schtick accounts. If you think of a big RW account that you find obnoxious, it is fairly unlikely that I am following that person. Ben Shapiro is probably the main counter-example, but I follow him for "let's keep an eye on that corner of the internet" purposes, not because I feel particularly attached to him. (I have some comparable LW accounts in my follows).
 
I think people who encounter trolling or vitriol on Twitter are probably getting into the replies and comments, which is always going to be a mistake. Its like trying to have a meaningful discussion on reddit - a complete waste of time whether its sports, entertainment, politics or whatever. The only way I can use Twitter is to follow quality accounts, read the top line comments and maybe follow to a linked article or whatever, but never engage.
 
I'm still on Twitter but have moved the app to a subfolder and promoted Bluesky to my home screen :oldunsure:
Just joined BlueSky. I had tried a bunch of the other alternatives previously and found all of them extremely lacking. BlueSky seems really promising if they can attract a larger user base. They’re gaining some momentum and have added over 1M users over just the last week.
This looks exactly like Twitter. What is the benefit of changing?
You get a tiny fraction of the users and they are more likely to be in your echo chamber?
It does seem like its a similar ideology quitting X and moving there recently.
Yep. I think there's been two great takes I've read - one is that they've got a million new users and zero new opinions, the other, longer one is basically Elon buys Twitter > hacks out censorship > people say what they actually think > legacy blue-checks horrified > likes go private > users start liking what they actually like > more moderate takes get traction > instant cries of “algorithm rigged” > libs free platform, claim saving democracy by silencing themselves > election rolls around, public opinion reflected in real-time > turns out the average user isn’t a zealot, just wants normalcy and X is the signal, not the noise > those libs that didn't leave earlier panic, use their normal slurs, move to platform that will be bankrupt this time next year
Good thing you're not making it political
 
I think people who encounter trolling or vitriol on Twitter are probably getting into the replies and comments, which is always going to be a mistake. Its like trying to have a meaningful discussion on reddit - a complete waste of time whether its sports, entertainment, politics or whatever. The only way I can use Twitter is to follow quality accounts, read the top line comments and maybe follow to a linked article or whatever, but never engage.
This is a very good point. I strongly agree.
 
I must have a well-curated timeline. I don't get a lot of political stuff except for people that I follow, and I don't follow a lot of "political" accounts. I hardly ever see stuff from opposing views.

This seems to have drastically changed in the past 3-4 days. No I'm not wearing a tin foil hat.
 
I think people who encounter trolling or vitriol on Twitter are probably getting into the replies and comments, which is always going to be a mistake. Its like trying to have a meaningful discussion on reddit - a complete waste of time whether its sports, entertainment, politics or whatever. The only way I can use Twitter is to follow quality accounts, read the top line comments and maybe follow to a linked article or whatever, but never engage.
This is a very good point. I strongly agree.
Don't go into replies, don't read comments, don't use For You...welcome to unmoderated, unfettered, non-aligned free speech, the invisible hand is at work.
 
I have also migrated over to BlueSky. I am looking for a product similat to what Twitter used to be. There was interaction between people, replies had actual conversations and not just bots with pre-programmed messages or trolling.

Going to give this a shot. Noticed a lot of the beat writers & FF content creators I utilize are on it now.

Twitter has been a hot mess.
 
I'm still on Twitter but have moved the app to a subfolder and promoted Bluesky to my home screen :oldunsure:
Just joined BlueSky. I had tried a bunch of the other alternatives previously and found all of them extremely lacking. BlueSky seems really promising if they can attract a larger user base. They’re gaining some momentum and have added over 1M users over just the last week.
This looks exactly like Twitter. What is the benefit of changing?

Everyone I know putting any effort into Bluesky has changed solely as a statement against Musk.

Others have joined with a "see how it goes" (like me) as it's a new platform to gain more audience.
I won’t join Bluesky because it’s basically the same viewpoint. I personally want differing viewpoints.
 
I think people who encounter trolling or vitriol on Twitter are probably getting into the replies and comments, which is always going to be a mistake. Its like trying to have a meaningful discussion on reddit - a complete waste of time whether its sports, entertainment, politics or whatever. The only way I can use Twitter is to follow quality accounts, read the top line comments and maybe follow to a linked article or whatever, but never engage.
This is a very good point. I strongly agree.
Don't go into replies, don't read comments, don't use For You...welcome to unmoderated, unfettered, non-aligned free speech, the invisible hand is at work.
There are occasionally some funny remarks in the comments, but yeah that's where pretty much all the vitriol is. At least in my experience. I don't think that's unique to X.

But the thing with free speech is that there's no guarantee that you're going to like what you hear. I find that fun, personally.
 
I think people who encounter trolling or vitriol on Twitter are probably getting into the replies and comments, which is always going to be a mistake. Its like trying to have a meaningful discussion on reddit - a complete waste of time whether its sports, entertainment, politics or whatever. The only way I can use Twitter is to follow quality accounts, read the top line comments and maybe follow to a linked article or whatever, but never engage.
This is a very good point. I strongly agree.
Don't go into replies, don't read comments, don't use For You...welcome to unmoderated, unfettered, non-aligned free speech, the invisible hand is at work.
There are occasionally some funny remarks in the comments, but yeah that's where pretty much all the vitriol is. At least in my experience. I don't think that's unique to X.

But the thing with free speech is that there's no guarantee that you're going to like what you hear. I find that fun, personally.
If someone was spewing hate towards you, your race, class or religion you would find that "fun"?
 
I think people who encounter trolling or vitriol on Twitter are probably getting into the replies and comments, which is always going to be a mistake. Its like trying to have a meaningful discussion on reddit - a complete waste of time whether its sports, entertainment, politics or whatever. The only way I can use Twitter is to follow quality accounts, read the top line comments and maybe follow to a linked article or whatever, but never engage.
This is a very good point. I strongly agree.
Don't go into replies, don't read comments, don't use For You...welcome to unmoderated, unfettered, non-aligned free speech, the invisible hand is at work.
There are occasionally some funny remarks in the comments, but yeah that's where pretty much all the vitriol is. At least in my experience. I don't think that's unique to X.

But the thing with free speech is that there's no guarantee that you're going to like what you hear. I find that fun, personally.
If someone was spewing hate towards you, your race, class or religion you would find that "fun"?
That's just a normal workday, TBH.
 
I think people who encounter trolling or vitriol on Twitter are probably getting into the replies and comments, which is always going to be a mistake. Its like trying to have a meaningful discussion on reddit - a complete waste of time whether its sports, entertainment, politics or whatever. The only way I can use Twitter is to follow quality accounts, read the top line comments and maybe follow to a linked article or whatever, but never engage.
This is a very good point. I strongly agree.
Don't go into replies, don't read comments, don't use For You...welcome to unmoderated, unfettered, non-aligned free speech, the invisible hand is at work.
There are occasionally some funny remarks in the comments, but yeah that's where pretty much all the vitriol is. At least in my experience. I don't think that's unique to X.

But the thing with free speech is that there's no guarantee that you're going to like what you hear. I find that fun, personally.
If someone was spewing hate towards you, your race, class or religion you would find that "fun"?
That's just a normal workday, TBH.
Not for most people, that's not a healthy way to live.
 
The starter packs on Bluesky are great. I was not looking forward to rebuilding my follow list but the packs made it almost instantaneous.
I have not cancelled Twitter, but did join BlueSky to see what is going on there. The starter packs are nice. Was pleasant to see “darth” in my Timeline again.
 
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