*OFFICIAL* W12 MNF Game Thread: Steelers @ Colts (1 Viewer)

[hook014]

Okay, I've got a question that's been bothering me for years.With all the audibling that Manning does, why are the Colts never called for a false start?Watched the Giant game ysterday (not a giants fan) and they were called repeatedly for flinching. Yet game after game the colts have lineman with head bobbing, moving body around, to hear Manning call the play. Now you might say that "he's not under center when he steps back to audible."Well, they do it whether he steps back or not. He does half of it under center.Further, some of his verbal stuff and hand waving is just for show.And the audible is really just part of the snap count anyway.How long do the lineman have to come set before the hike?Are the officials dropping the ball here?I don't see any other team getting this type of latitude.What gives?

 

[BusMan]

At least they're eating some clock.

 

[yahtzee]

Steeler offensive line is not giving Ben great protection. He seems hurried on every pass.

 

[el-gato-grande]

Marvel Smith - Arizona State Alum It's a shame he won't be able to play more in this game. Good player.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Harrison running back punts? Interesting.

 

[BigRed]

I hear a very large contingent of Steeler fans.

Pretty loud "duuuce" after that carry.

PIT has more than a few "serious" fans who don't mind travelling to IND for the game. I must admit Colts D SO FAR looks better than I expected, esp. against the run. Sort of surprised PIT isn't trying Bettis more though.

 

[PC Load Letter]

Marvin returning kicks? That's gotta be the dumbest move I've ever seen Dungy pull. Baffling.

 

[Sweeper]

It's round 4... This is when I sleep with my mother

Freudian slip would have sounded more like that

 

[Wolfpacker]

Harrison running back punts? Interesting.

As a Marvin owner, I'm not too crazy about that.

 

[BusMan]

POOR tackling.

 

[Marc Levin]

I know that the Colts have been playing very good on D this year and the Steelers also have a good D, but did anyone expect a hat-laying game like this? These guys are really laying the licks to each other.

Check the "10 reasons the Steelers will beat the Colts" thread

 

[togo]

Wow Pittsburgh offense isn't too predictable huh?Run, run, pass, punt.

 

[BigRed]

Harrison running back punts? Interesting.

"Stupid" is more like it.Nice patience by EJ on that run btw. However, if they can't sign him, I don't think it will be as big of a loss as many seem to....which differs from what I was saying earlier in the year. Sure he's having a great year and it'd be great to re-sign him if reasonably possible, but I really question if he's good enough to be worth the $$.

 

[Sweeper]

I hear a very large contingent of Steeler fans.

Pretty loud "duuuce" after that carry.

PIT has more than a few "serious" fans who don't mind travelling to IND for the game. I must admit Colts D SO FAR looks better than I expected, esp. against the run. Sort of surprised PIT isn't trying Bettis more though.

I agree ... tire there guys out early for the likes of FWP and Duce in the second half

 

[Napptown00]

Harrison running back punts?  Interesting.

As a Marvin owner, I'm not too crazy about that.

Walters got hit pretty hard on his last return. He may be injured and I bet Moorehead is inactive.

 

[Marc Levin]

sack and fumble by Manning - not sure when's the last time I've seen thatgcombo.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Harrison running back punts? Interesting.

As a Marvin owner, I'm not too crazy about that.

Walters got hit pretty hard on his last return. He may be injured and I bet Moorehead is inactive.

Then why not Stokley? Inexperience?

 

[BigRed]

I agree ... tire there guys out early for the likes of FWP and Duce in the second half

 

[Marc Levin]

Wow Pittsburgh offense isn't too predictable huh?

Run, run, pass, punt.

Read: Jets-Saints game last night.

 

[Napptown00]

Harrison running back punts?  Interesting.

"Stupid" is more like it.Nice patience by EJ on that run btw. However, if they can't sign him, I don't think it will be as big of a loss as many seem to....which differs from what I was saying earlier in the year. Sure he's having a great year and it'd be great to re-sign him if reasonably possible, but I really question if he's good enough to be worth the $$.

Peyton is talking about redoing his contract to make room for Edge and Wayne

 

[culdeus]

 

[Napptown00]

Harrison running back punts?  Interesting.

As a Marvin owner, I'm not too crazy about that.

Walters got hit pretty hard on his last return. He may be injured and I bet Moorehead is inactive.

Then why not Stokley? Inexperience?

Not sure. I think Rhodes would be next in line and has experience as well. I don't like it or understand it. Just speculating.

 

[jwvdcw]

"Manning looks like hes in a rap video." :confused

 

[PACKER 7]

I know that the Colts have been playing very good on D this year

...against weak offenses. Talk to me after the game.

I'll agree they haven't played the cream of the offensive crop, but holding opponents to 152 points thru 10 games is pretty good. That is only 2nd to the Chicago freakin' Bears. So I'd say the D has played pretty good.

 

[GotFingNoDukes]

"Manning looks like hes in a rap video." :confused

DJ Jazzy Pey-dog

 

[flapgreen]

Manning's gestures during that series were strange. He looks like he's directing an orchestra out there.

 

[yahtzee]

THe Steeler defense is definitely confusing Manning!

 

[flapgreen]

"Manning looks like hes in a rap video." :confused

 

[BigRed]

Manning is - once again - getting carried away with all his friggin hand signals and God-knows-what. Sometimes I swear it's like he has OCD or something - just HIKE the freakin ball!

 

[Napptown00]

I know that the Colts have been playing very good on D this year

...against weak offenses. Talk to me after the game.

I'll agree they haven't played the cream of the offensive crop, but holding opponents to 152 points thru 10 games is pretty good. That is only 2nd to the Chicago freakin' Bears. So I'd say the D has played pretty good.

You tell me which of these teams lights it up often1 9/11 @ Baltimore Ravens 24 - 7

2 9/18 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS 10 - 3

3 9/25 CLEVELAND BROWNS 13 - 6

4 10/2 @ Tennessee Titans 31 - 10

5 10/9 @ San Francisco 49ers 28 - 3

6 10/17 ST. LOUIS RAMS 45 - 28

7 10/23 @ Houston Texans 38 - 20

9 11/7 @ New England Patriots 40 - 21

10 11/13 HOUSTON TEXANS 31 - 17

11 11/20 @ Cincinnati Bengals

 

[Memphis Foundry]

THe Steeler defense is definitely confusing Manning!

It definitely looks like he's getting a litte ticked.

 

[BigRed]

THe Steeler defense is definitely confusing Manning!

When Ds start throwing him a lot of looks, it's like a cat n mouse game - that is when of ALL times he should just go up and hike it.

 

[Badm]

Pretty close game considering INDY has outplayed Pitt in every statistical category

 

[Memphis Foundry]

Wow -- big break on the facemask.

 

[BigRed]

What a total BS call - that was an incidental face mask, WTF w/15 yds on that? GDB handing PIT a FG or better mebbe.

 

[BigRed]

Pretty close game considering INDY has outplayed Pitt in every statistical category

- but after the first series or so, it's really been pretty neck n neck overall.

 

[Napptown00]

nice

 

[Badm]

What a total BS call - that was an incidental face mask, WTF w/15 yds on that? GDB handing PIT a FG or better mebbe.

that was not a bs call. His head almost snapped.

 

[BigRed]

Doss nice pick but you could have set em up for a FG if you ran better than Bernie Kosar you #######

 

[PACKER 7]

I know that the Colts have been playing very good on D this year

...against weak offenses. Talk to me after the game.

I'll agree they haven't played the cream of the offensive crop, but holding opponents to 152 points thru 10 games is pretty good. That is only 2nd to the Chicago freakin' Bears. So I'd say the D has played pretty good.

You tell me which of these teams lights it up often1 9/11 @ Baltimore Ravens 24 - 7

2 9/18 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS 10 - 3

3 9/25 CLEVELAND BROWNS 13 - 6

4 10/2 @ Tennessee Titans 31 - 10

5 10/9 @ San Francisco 49ers 28 - 3

6 10/17 ST. LOUIS RAMS 45 - 28

7 10/23 @ Houston Texans 38 - 20

9 11/7 @ New England Patriots 40 - 21

10 11/13 HOUSTON TEXANS 31 - 17

11 11/20 @ Cincinnati Bengals

Like I said, I agree they haven't played the best NFL offenses, but last time I checked all these teams play in the NFL. So to say that they haven't played good D is ridiculous.

 

[BigRed]

that was not a bs call. His head almost snapped.

yeah right

 

[Sweeper]

What a total BS call - that was an incidental face mask, WTF w/15 yds on that?  GDB handing PIT a FG or better mebbe.

that was not a bs call. His head almost snapped.

they are moo points now

 

[BigRed]

Nice play - take one more shot -

 

[Badm]

I know that the Colts have been playing very good on D this year

...against weak offenses. Talk to me after the game.

I'll agree they haven't played the cream of the offensive crop, but holding opponents to 152 points thru 10 games is pretty good. That is only 2nd to the Chicago freakin' Bears. So I'd say the D has played pretty good.

You tell me which of these teams lights it up often1 9/11 @ Baltimore Ravens 24 - 7

2 9/18 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS 10 - 3

3 9/25 CLEVELAND BROWNS 13 - 6

4 10/2 @ Tennessee Titans 31 - 10

5 10/9 @ San Francisco 49ers 28 - 3

6 10/17 ST. LOUIS RAMS 45 - 28

7 10/23 @ Houston Texans 38 - 20

9 11/7 @ New England Patriots 40 - 21

10 11/13 HOUSTON TEXANS 31 - 17

11 11/20 @ Cincinnati Bengals

Like I said, I agree they haven't played the best NFL offenses, but last time I checked all these teams play in the NFL. So to say that they haven't played good D is ridiculous.

Houston and Cleveland are in the NFL?

 

[BigRed]

oh goody EJ up the middle Vandy must have a bum leg or something

 

[The_Man]

Madden and Michaels apparently unaware of this new call I've been seeing a lot of -- 15 yards when a defender takes a blocker out by diving at his knees.After the break, Michaels will probably have been spoken to by NFL head of officiating and offer an explanation.

 

[Napptown00]

I know that the Colts have been playing very good on D this year

...against weak offenses. Talk to me after the game.

I'll agree they haven't played the cream of the offensive crop, but holding opponents to 152 points thru 10 games is pretty good. That is only 2nd to the Chicago freakin' Bears. So I'd say the D has played pretty good.

You tell me which of these teams lights it up often1 9/11 @ Baltimore Ravens 24 - 7

2 9/18 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS 10 - 3

3 9/25 CLEVELAND BROWNS 13 - 6

4 10/2 @ Tennessee Titans 31 - 10

5 10/9 @ San Francisco 49ers 28 - 3

6 10/17 ST. LOUIS RAMS 45 - 28

7 10/23 @ Houston Texans 38 - 20

9 11/7 @ New England Patriots 40 - 21

10 11/13 HOUSTON TEXANS 31 - 17

11 11/20 @ Cincinnati Bengals

Like I said, I agree they haven't played the best NFL offenses, but last time I checked all these teams play in the NFL. So to say that they haven't played good D is ridiculous.

I never said they were not good. I said they were over rated. When they play good Offensive teams there stats are more like the previous years. No doubt the have improved a lot.

 

[yahtzee]

All things considered the Steelers are lucky to only be down 16-7. This game is defeinitely within reach. The offensive has to start getting some first downs and scoring.

 

[Keys Myaths]

To take the defensive analysis one step further, the highlighted teams are ranked 14th or better offensively in PPG.

1 9/11 @ Baltimore Ravens 24 - 7

2 9/18 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS 10 - 3

3 9/25 CLEVELAND BROWNS 13 - 6

4 10/2 @ Tennessee Titans 31 - 10

5 10/9 @ San Francisco 49ers 28 - 3

6 10/17 ST. LOUIS RAMS 45 - 28

7 10/23 @ Houston Texans 38 - 20

9 11/7 @ New England Patriots 40 - 21

10 11/13 HOUSTON TEXANS 31 - 17

11 11/20 @ Cincinnati Bengals 45-37

So they allow an average of 28.7 points a game to defenses in the top 14.

That's VERY average, if that.

 

[KTM]

You could see Peyton saying "hash" after that quick throw to Harrison. I can't remember why, but isn't it harder for right-footed kickers to kick FG's from the right hash vs the left?