Pete Rose comments about steroids in baseball (1 Viewer)

[Anthony Borbely]

Pete Rose says that steroid users are "making a mockery" of baseball.

Imagine that...Pete Rose talking about someone "making a mockery" of baseball.

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Rose on Mitchell report: Steroids users 'making a mockery' of baseball

NEW YORK -- Pete Rose thinks players who use steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs are "making a mockery" of baseball.

The career hits leader, banned by the sport for gambling, weighed in on the Mitchell report in an interview with Dennis Miller that was slated to air Wednesday night on VERSUS.

Roger Clemens, Miguel Tejada and Andy Pettitte were among the big stars implicated in last week's report by former Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell on performance-enhancing drugs in baseball.

Clemens denied the allegations. Pettitte acknowledged last weekend that he used human growth hormone twice while rehabbing from an injury in 2002.

"I never thought anybody would make me look like an altar boy," Rose said.

"I've been suspended 18 years for betting on my own team to win," he added. "I was wrong ... but these guys today, if the allegations are true, they're making a mockery of the game."

Rose was banished from baseball for life in 1989 for betting on games while he was manager of the Cincinnati Reds, his former team. He denied the gambling allegations until 2004, when he came clean in his autobiography. He is not eligible for the Hall of Fame.

"If you're going to put these guys that supposedly did steroids into the Hall of Fame, I mean I've got to get a shot somewhere," he said.

Rose finished with 4,256 hits, breaking Ty Cobb's career record.

And if steroids were prevalent in his day?

"I would have got 5,000 hits," he said.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Rose didn't want to buy steroids, that would have ate into his gambling money.

 

[Please See Mine]

Pete Rose is trying to portray himself as a victim?

I'm shocked.

 

[Bobcat10]

The best part is the last comment...he would have had 5000 hits. So Rose is saying he'd have taken them like everyone else.

Regardless, this guy should be in the Hall.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The best part is the last comment...he would have had 5000 hits. So Rose is saying he'd have taken them like everyone else.Regardless, this guy should be in the Hall.

Pete is one of the biggest scumbags in sports history. Wasn't he involved in selling steroids at one point? He still belongs in the Hall of Fame though. They never took OJ out of Canton.

 

[Da Guru]

The best part is the last comment...he would have had 5000 hits. So Rose is saying he'd have taken them like everyone else.Regardless, this guy should be in the Hall.

Pete is one of the biggest scumbags in sports history. Wasn't he involved in selling steroids at one point? He still belongs in the Hall of Fame though. They never took OJ out of Canton.

Pete was a notorious user of beanies..or speed in his day.

 

[redman]

The best part is the last comment...he would have had 5000 hits. So Rose is saying he'd have taken them like everyone else.Regardless, this guy should be in the Hall.

Pete is one of the biggest scumbags in sports history. Wasn't he involved in selling steroids at one point? He still belongs in the Hall of Fame though. They never took OJ out of Canton.

I guess I'm not familiar with the Black Sox murder scandal that radically changed the way the NFL handled its business.

 

[massraider]

I love Pete Rose. The guy is so hysterically clueless and inapporopriate.

Definitely should be in the Hall.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The best part is the last comment...he would have had 5000 hits. So Rose is saying he'd have taken them like everyone else.Regardless, this guy should be in the Hall.

Pete is one of the biggest scumbags in sports history. Wasn't he involved in selling steroids at one point? He still belongs in the Hall of Fame though. They never took OJ out of Canton.

I guess I'm not familiar with the Black Sox murder scandal that radically changed the way the NFL handled its business.

Joe Jackson should be in also.

 

[redman]

I love Pete Rose. The guy is so hysterically clueless and inapporopriate.Definitely should be in the Hall.

He truly is stupid, amazingly so.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The best part is the last comment...he would have had 5000 hits. So Rose is saying he'd have taken them like everyone else.Regardless, this guy should be in the Hall.

Pete is one of the biggest scumbags in sports history. Wasn't he involved in selling steroids at one point? He still belongs in the Hall of Fame though. They never took OJ out of Canton.

I guess I'm not familiar with the Black Sox murder scandal that radically changed the way the NFL handled its business.

Joe Jackson should be in also.

Swede Risberg, out.

 

[Limp Ditka]

The best part is the last comment...he would have had 5000 hits. So Rose is saying he'd have taken them like everyone else.Regardless, this guy should be in the Hall.

Pete is one of the biggest scumbags in sports history. Wasn't he involved in selling steroids at one point? He still belongs in the Hall of Fame though. They never took OJ out of Canton.

I guess I'm not familiar with the Black Sox murder scandal that radically changed the way the NFL handled its business.

Joe Jackson should be in also.

Swede Risberg, out.

Buck Weaver, in

 

[Leroy Hoard]

The best part is the last comment...he would have had 5000 hits. So Rose is saying he'd have taken them like everyone else.Regardless, this guy should be in the Hall.

Pete is one of the biggest scumbags in sports history. Wasn't he involved in selling steroids at one point? He still belongs in the Hall of Fame though. They never took OJ out of Canton.

I guess I'm not familiar with the Black Sox murder scandal that radically changed the way the NFL handled its business.

Joe Jackson should be in also.

No shoes - No service

 

[On The Rocks]

The best part is the last comment...he would have had 5000 hits. So Rose is saying he'd have taken them like everyone else.Regardless, this guy should be in the Hall.

Pete is one of the biggest scumbags in sports history. Wasn't he involved in selling steroids at one point? He still belongs in the Hall of Fame though. They never took OJ out of Canton.

I guess I'm not familiar with the Black Sox murder scandal that radically changed the way the NFL handled its business.

Joe Jackson should be in also.

No shoes - No service

Not sure why....but I laughed out loud. Seriously.

 

[redman]

The best part is the last comment...he would have had 5000 hits. So Rose is saying he'd have taken them like everyone else.

Regardless, this guy should be in the Hall.

Pete is one of the biggest scumbags in sports history. Wasn't he involved in selling steroids at one point? He still belongs in the Hall of Fame though. They never took OJ out of Canton.

I guess I'm not familiar with the Black Sox murder scandal that radically changed the way the NFL handled its business.

Joe Jackson should be in also.

In some respects he's worse than Rose because he accepted money to lose games. And yes, I'm familiar with his WS performance.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The best part is the last comment...he would have had 5000 hits. So Rose is saying he'd have taken them like everyone else.

Regardless, this guy should be in the Hall.

Pete is one of the biggest scumbags in sports history. Wasn't he involved in selling steroids at one point? He still belongs in the Hall of Fame though. They never took OJ out of Canton.

I guess I'm not familiar with the Black Sox murder scandal that radically changed the way the NFL handled its business.

Joe Jackson should be in also.

In some respects he's worse than Rose because he accepted money to lose games. And yes, I'm familiar with his WS performance.

Ty Cobb said Shoeless Joe was the greatest natural hitter he had ever seen. Life was different in 1919 than it is today and these guys were not paid that well, many of them had to find jobs in the offseason. Comisky was a ruthless business man and he screwed over his players whenever he got the chance. The simple Joe Jackson who could neither read nor write was an easy target for the gamblers and the entire incident is as unfortunate as any in sports history. It took the players some 50 years to gain an equal say in baseball and the owners and the establishment should just move on and consider the time, the place, and the circumstances in 1919. Joe Jackson should be in Cooperstown. He's the best baseball player including Rose who isn't in.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Joe Jackson should be in Cooperstown. He's the best baseball player including Rose who isn't in.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

every time I go to Vegas and walk through the forum shops at caesar, there is Pete Rose signing autographs at the sport memo store.

LOL

 

[Eephus]

Radomski called Pete Rose Jr. numerous times in 2001, "which occurred during the time frame when Rose Jr. pleaded guilty to distributing performance-enhancing drugs." Rose Jr. pleaded guilty in 2005 to distributing GBL, a drug that converts to the drug GHB in the body, in 2001. GHB, known as "the date-rape drug," is sometimes used by dopers to help them sleep.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Rose has some nerve to say anything when NOTHING is worse for the game then people betting on it and the possibility that games are jeopardized based on betting.

 

[Liquid Tension]

The best part is the last comment...he would have had 5000 hits. So Rose is saying he'd have taken them like everyone else.Regardless, this guy should be in the Hall.

Pete is one of the biggest scumbags in sports history. Wasn't he involved in selling steroids at one point? He still belongs in the Hall of Fame though. They never took OJ out of Canton.

I know this debate goes on and on, but OJ and what Rose did are two different things. I would say that killing is worse, but in terms of baseball, betting is clearly worse (unless he killed the commish) Rose took a plea deal and part of that deal was that he was permanently suspended from baseball and anyone that is permanently suspended from baseball is not eligible for the HOF. Therefore, rather than fight the charges he agreed to not be allowed into the HOF. So why should he get in when he agreed to that

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Rose took a plea deal and part of that deal was that he was permanently suspended from baseball and anyone that is permanently suspended from baseball is not eligible for the HOF. Therefore, rather than fight the charges he agreed to not be allowed into the HOF. So why should he get in when he agreed to that

4256 hitsI don't care if they wait until after he's dead, but he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Rose took a plea deal and part of that deal was that he was permanently suspended from baseball and anyone that is permanently suspended from baseball is not eligible for the HOF. Therefore, rather than fight the charges he agreed to not be allowed into the HOF. So why should he get in when he agreed to that

4256 hitsI don't care if they wait until after he's dead, but he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

After he's dead has always been my stance. His past doesn't warrant him being able to see the day it happens. Out of spite, I'd have a special ceremony the day after he died and get the whole thing over with ASAP.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Rose took a plea deal and part of that deal was that he was permanently suspended from baseball and anyone that is permanently suspended from baseball is not eligible for the HOF. Therefore, rather than fight the charges he agreed to not be allowed into the HOF. So why should he get in when he agreed to that

4256 hitsI don't care if they wait until after he's dead, but he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

After he's dead has always been my stance. His past doesn't warrant him being able to see the day it happens. Out of spite, I'd have a special ceremony the day after he died and get the whole thing over with ASAP.

I don't think I've ever disliked an athlete more than I do Rose. He's a subhuman, but man he played a good game of baseball. Hopefully we get a commish with sense when he dies and Joe Jackson and Pete Rose the two most deserving candidates as of this moment, get their plaque.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Rose took a plea deal and part of that deal was that he was permanently suspended from baseball and anyone that is permanently suspended from baseball is not eligible for the HOF. Therefore, rather than fight the charges he agreed to not be allowed into the HOF. So why should he get in when he agreed to that

4256 hitsI don't care if they wait until after he's dead, but he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

His accomplishments can be in the HOF but he should not be (although your compromise of after he is dead is a fair one) because it is made crystal clear when you play ball about gambling and he gambled and impacted the integrity of the game. That is worse than anything else IMO

 

[redman]

Rose took a plea deal and part of that deal was that he was permanently suspended from baseball and anyone that is permanently suspended from baseball is not eligible for the HOF. Therefore, rather than fight the charges he agreed to not be allowed into the HOF. So why should he get in when he agreed to that

4256 hitsI don't care if they wait until after he's dead, but he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

And that's an absolute? Nothing can negate that? I agree that if you're talking about the integrity of the game, nothing is worse than participants betting on games.

 

[skillz]

The guy should just keep his mouth shut. He has no credibility on the subject. Rose must be trying to sell a book or something so he decided to go on TV to talk about the steroids scandal.

Even though I dislike Pete Rose the person, I have always said that since Rose bet on games after he was done playing and had already accumulated 4256 hits, he should be in the Hall of Fame. He didn't violate the betting rules while playing. In my opinion since his breaking of the rules didn't have any impact on what he accomplished on the field while playing he should get in. That being said, he should have the plaque say what he did. Going forward he should have been banned from baseball for life for breaking the rules (no attendance at MLB events, no right to have a job for a MLB team, etc). That would be his punishment. Basically, punish him for things in the future as opposed to stuff he already accomplished on the field and for which his rules violations had no bearing on.

The problem for Rose is that he did agree with MLB to allow the commissioner the opportunity to grant him reinstatement after one year. He got bad advice there. He naively believed that the commissioner would have reinstated him in a year or, at the very least, public opinion would be so clearly in his favor that over time the MLB commissioner would cave in by reinstating him into baseball and letting him in the Hall of Fame. Whether he had a "side deal" with Giamatti to let him back after one year, I don't know but bottom line is he agreed to a set of rules that he must now live by. Once he made his admission on 60 Minutes about betting on baseball, he pretty much killed any chance he had of getting in the Hall of Fame. If he had continued denying gambling, I am sure that he would have gotten in the Hall of Fame at some point in the future. That is why guys like Bonds, and Clemens are going to deny steroid use until the day they die. They don't want to kill their legacy or chances of making the Hall like Pete did.

 

[redman]

Once he made his admission on 60 Minutes about betting on baseball, he pretty much killed any chance he had of getting in the Hall of Fame. If he had continued denying gambling, I am sure that he would have gotten in the Hall of Fame at some point in the future.

To anyone in the know, this made no difference. They had him dead to rights on the gambling whether he admitted it or not, so his 18 years of denials were what was killing him there. The only shot he had was immediate contrition, back in 1989, which would have forced MLB to be lenient on who was then a very popular former player and manager. His "apology" was too little, (much) too late.