Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
Pick a Pair/Half Decade Album Draft - Bonus Rounds Thu & Fri - Pick three if you want (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Eephus
- Start date
zamboni
Footballguy
12th round: Peter Frampton
Frampton's Camel (1973)
Frampton Comes Alive! (1976)
Fingerprints (2006)
Breaking my rule with taking a live album, but mainly as an homage to Pete, whose health is failing. Quoted from earlier this year:
"The COVID clock is stopping everybody from being around each other, for good reason, right now, obviously. And the more we stay away from each other, unfortunately, at this time, the better it is. But I have a third clock, which is my IBM—inclusion body myositis—clock. Slowly but surely, unfortunately, I'm losing strength in my hands, my arms and my legs. It's specific muscles it hits. It picks and chooses the muscles and there's no rhyme or reason for it. They don't know; there's no cure. If it takes another year before we can reschedule any dates, I will have to be realistic to see if my hands work or my legs will keep me up."
Will post tunes from all albums chosen when I can.
Frampton's Camel (1973)
Frampton Comes Alive! (1976)
Fingerprints (2006)
Breaking my rule with taking a live album, but mainly as an homage to Pete, whose health is failing. Quoted from earlier this year:
"The COVID clock is stopping everybody from being around each other, for good reason, right now, obviously. And the more we stay away from each other, unfortunately, at this time, the better it is. But I have a third clock, which is my IBM—inclusion body myositis—clock. Slowly but surely, unfortunately, I'm losing strength in my hands, my arms and my legs. It's specific muscles it hits. It picks and chooses the muscles and there's no rhyme or reason for it. They don't know; there's no cure. If it takes another year before we can reschedule any dates, I will have to be realistic to see if my hands work or my legs will keep me up."
Will post tunes from all albums chosen when I can.
krista4
Footballguy
I would have gone with Husker Du or Ramones here, as I'd like some punk/post-punk and many of my favorites had few records, which were all scrunched together in time. This is the best I can do.
Public Image Ltd
Public Image: First Issue (1978)
This Is What You Want... This Is What You Get (1984)
Album (1986)
Public Image Ltd
Public Image: First Issue (1978)
This Is What You Want... This Is What You Get (1984)
Album (1986)
the moops
Footballguy
Love Dave Grohl too much to not have him on here.
Foo Fighters
The Colour and the Shape 1997
Everlong
My Hero
Monkey Wrench
Skin and Bones 2006
The whole damn concert
Wasting Light 2011
White Limo
Rope
Walk
Foo Fighters
The Colour and the Shape 1997
Everlong
My Hero
Monkey Wrench
Skin and Bones 2006
The whole damn concert
Wasting Light 2011
White Limo
Rope
Walk
Last edited by a moderator:
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Round12
Concrete Blonde
Free(1989)
Bloodletting(1990)
Concrete Blonde
Free(1989)
Bloodletting(1990)
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I'm tempted to take what my 22 yr old insisted I had to. It even works for triple half decades. I just honestly didn't like it. But I'm sure some here would say hellyeahs.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
hellyeahs! some old dated stuff i still like alot. I took comes alive in another draft. eeph re-listened and he's the one who found it dated. i think it still feels very original, for the times, and for now.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
We doin' 13? It matters.
and i thought i would bail at 10 as originally planned
and i thought i would bail at 10 as originally planned
rockaction
Footballguy
You've got me curious. If you don't post here, PM me. I'm interested in what the pick was.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
I plan to post my makeup picks along with some frosty beverages this evening.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Round 12:
FAILURE
Magnified (1994)
Fantastic Planet (1996)
The Heart Is a Monster (2015)
As I have said in the jukebox draft and GP4 threads, Fantastic Planet is one of my favorite albums of all time. I couldn't decide whether to pair it with its immediate predecessor or immediate successor, but the bonus round solved that problem.
Failure started as an alt-rock power trio. Their first album, Comfort (1992), was standard grunge-era fare, down to the Steve Albini production. Then their drummer quit, and songwriters Ken Andrews and Greg Edwards (who shared guitar, bass and keys; Andrews handled most of the singing) had to reinvent themselves out of necessity.
Magnified, the second album, presents a completely different-sounding band. With no permanent drummer (Edwards handled the drumming on most tracks), the single-take approach of Comfort wasn't possible, so Andrews and Edwards took the opportunity to develop a more layered, intricate sound. Each track of Magnified has a ton of interesting stuff going and you can discover something different with each listen.
It was here where they got on my radar. I saw them open for Tool on Valentine's Day 1994 and was very impressed. By this point, they had a new drummer, Kelli Scott, who has been with them ever since, and had built themselves into a lean but not one-dimensional live outfit. I found Magnified and Comfort in record stores soon thereafter, and eagerly awaited their next output.
Two years later, Fantastic Planet was issued, and its impact on me was immediate. They had basically invented grunge-prog fusion. I was blown away and played the album constantly. But there was no sign that the rest of the world knew what had happened. There wasn't much evidence of the album's brilliance on the song released to modern rock radio, Stuck on You, and I don't recall a whole lot of buzz, at least in NJ. I passed on seeing them live because I had just gotten married for the first time and had other things going on, and they were touring with Local H, whom I didn't care for. I figured I would get them next time.
Turned out that would be awhile. One of the standout features of Fantastic Planet is the spaced-out, far-out lyrics, mostly written by Edwards. Turned out that Edwards was a raging heroin addict and many of his lyrics referred to/were inspired by his highs. Him being in that state caused a lot of problems, as you might imagine, and by 1997 Andrews had had enough and the band broke up.
By the early '00s, I began to find other people on the internet who held Fantastic Planet in as high esteem as I did. Turns out the album had a cult following after all, which got bigger when one of its songs, The Nurse Who Loved Me, was covered by A Perfect Circle.
Flash forward to 2013. Andrews had spent most of the interim as a producer, with occasional forays into making his own music, while Edwards and Scott had been involved with various bands. Andrews and Edwards began corresponding again and realized that, thanks to becoming fathers around the same time, they once again had a lot in common. So they decided to try working together again with Scott.
I saw them on their 2014 reunion tour, on which they played most of Fantastic Planet, and during my show (and presumably the other ones), they announced that a new album was forthcoming. When The Heart Is a Monster arrived a year later, it was as if nothing had changed. As might be expected, there are fewer grunge-related elements, but it sounds about what you'd expect a Fantastic Planet follow-up would have sounded like if they'd never broken up. The arrangements are just as stunning as those on Magnified and Fantastic Planet.
I missed the 2016 Fantastic Planet anniversary tour (all the Northeast dates happened when I was on a cruise) but saw them again in 2019 when they were touring for The Heart Is a Monster's successor, In the Future Your Body Will Be the Furthest Thing From Your Mind. They are currently working on a sixth album, and I hope I'll be comfortable seeing live shows again when the tour for that happens.
Magnified:
Let It Drip
Undone
Fantastic Planet:
Sergeant Politeness / Segue 1
Heliotropic
The Heart Is a Monster:
Fair Light Era
Come Crashing
FAILURE
Magnified (1994)
Fantastic Planet (1996)
The Heart Is a Monster (2015)
As I have said in the jukebox draft and GP4 threads, Fantastic Planet is one of my favorite albums of all time. I couldn't decide whether to pair it with its immediate predecessor or immediate successor, but the bonus round solved that problem.
Failure started as an alt-rock power trio. Their first album, Comfort (1992), was standard grunge-era fare, down to the Steve Albini production. Then their drummer quit, and songwriters Ken Andrews and Greg Edwards (who shared guitar, bass and keys; Andrews handled most of the singing) had to reinvent themselves out of necessity.
Magnified, the second album, presents a completely different-sounding band. With no permanent drummer (Edwards handled the drumming on most tracks), the single-take approach of Comfort wasn't possible, so Andrews and Edwards took the opportunity to develop a more layered, intricate sound. Each track of Magnified has a ton of interesting stuff going and you can discover something different with each listen.
It was here where they got on my radar. I saw them open for Tool on Valentine's Day 1994 and was very impressed. By this point, they had a new drummer, Kelli Scott, who has been with them ever since, and had built themselves into a lean but not one-dimensional live outfit. I found Magnified and Comfort in record stores soon thereafter, and eagerly awaited their next output.
Two years later, Fantastic Planet was issued, and its impact on me was immediate. They had basically invented grunge-prog fusion. I was blown away and played the album constantly. But there was no sign that the rest of the world knew what had happened. There wasn't much evidence of the album's brilliance on the song released to modern rock radio, Stuck on You, and I don't recall a whole lot of buzz, at least in NJ. I passed on seeing them live because I had just gotten married for the first time and had other things going on, and they were touring with Local H, whom I didn't care for. I figured I would get them next time.
Turned out that would be awhile. One of the standout features of Fantastic Planet is the spaced-out, far-out lyrics, mostly written by Edwards. Turned out that Edwards was a raging heroin addict and many of his lyrics referred to/were inspired by his highs. Him being in that state caused a lot of problems, as you might imagine, and by 1997 Andrews had had enough and the band broke up.
By the early '00s, I began to find other people on the internet who held Fantastic Planet in as high esteem as I did. Turns out the album had a cult following after all, which got bigger when one of its songs, The Nurse Who Loved Me, was covered by A Perfect Circle.
Flash forward to 2013. Andrews had spent most of the interim as a producer, with occasional forays into making his own music, while Edwards and Scott had been involved with various bands. Andrews and Edwards began corresponding again and realized that, thanks to becoming fathers around the same time, they once again had a lot in common. So they decided to try working together again with Scott.
I saw them on their 2014 reunion tour, on which they played most of Fantastic Planet, and during my show (and presumably the other ones), they announced that a new album was forthcoming. When The Heart Is a Monster arrived a year later, it was as if nothing had changed. As might be expected, there are fewer grunge-related elements, but it sounds about what you'd expect a Fantastic Planet follow-up would have sounded like if they'd never broken up. The arrangements are just as stunning as those on Magnified and Fantastic Planet.
I missed the 2016 Fantastic Planet anniversary tour (all the Northeast dates happened when I was on a cruise) but saw them again in 2019 when they were touring for The Heart Is a Monster's successor, In the Future Your Body Will Be the Furthest Thing From Your Mind. They are currently working on a sixth album, and I hope I'll be comfortable seeing live shows again when the tour for that happens.
Magnified:
Let It Drip
Undone
Fantastic Planet:
Sergeant Politeness / Segue 1
Heliotropic
The Heart Is a Monster:
Fair Light Era
Come Crashing
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
Northern Voice
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
Manster
Footballguy
This sounds like something I might be into.....I'm gonna check em out! Thanks
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Probably little surprise here, but I will go with the band that got my old ### back into listening to metal more frequently and despite my 1st rounder and username this is the band I have listened to the most in the last decade. It was partly the mood I was in last night as I was skimming their albums and partly an attempt to pick some albums I could take songs that others might like too, I ended up with their later stage/proggy/softer vocals albums.
ROUND 12: OPETH
WATERSHED - 2008
PALE COMMUNION - 2014
SORCERESS - 2016
ROUND 12: OPETH
WATERSHED - 2008
PALE COMMUNION - 2014
SORCERESS - 2016
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Bonus Round #2 - Tame Impala - Lonerism (2012) / Currents (2015) / The Slow Rush (2020)
Sure, why not.
"Eventually"
"The Less I Know The Better"
"Feels Like We Only Go Backwards"
"Borderline"
"Elephant"
"Lost In Yesterday"
Sure, why not.
"Eventually"
"The Less I Know The Better"
"Feels Like We Only Go Backwards"
"Borderline"
"Elephant"
"Lost In Yesterday"
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
One of only two bands I go to when in a metal headbang mood. I was considering two different albums for this round. decided upon them many rounds ago. Of course, I love the acoustic stuff. Awesome band.
zamboni
Footballguy
Last edited by a moderator:
Eephus
Footballguy
I listened to Failure's Magnafied on my midday walk because I remembered typing the misspelled album title into the spreadsheet and I mistakenly thought it had been produced by Steve Albini.
I liked the album. It was pretty grungy but there were occasional unexpected chord progressions that my ear knows enough to recognize but my brain doesn't know enough music theory to describe. I thought they sounded a bit like King's X on a couple of the down tempo numbers. The singer was fine but kind of anonymous.
I'd be down to listen to their more recent stuff.
I liked the album. It was pretty grungy but there were occasional unexpected chord progressions that my ear knows enough to recognize but my brain doesn't know enough music theory to describe. I thought they sounded a bit like King's X on a couple of the down tempo numbers. The singer was fine but kind of anonymous.
I'd be down to listen to their more recent stuff.
Last edited by a moderator:
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Nice. Thought about it and forgot about it. But I'm a pretty big fan. Elephant gets by far the biggest crowd reaction, I wish Kevin would do an album of similar. From Currents it's Yes, I'm Waiting and Same Old Mistakes for me. Nice way to close.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Cool. If you liked that one, you should like any of their others, with the possible exception of the first one (Comfort) that was produced by Albini.
To my ears the singing is better on Fantastic Planet and the reunion albums, but some may not notice much of a difference. Ken Andrews doesn't have a whole lot of range, but his voice works well for the material.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I may not listen to Taylor, but I've memorized enough RiRi to impress her biggest fans. I'll karoake S&M and Love on the Brain in the right condition. B!tch Better Have my Money too, if I could stop laughing.
Round 12
Girl Gone Bad (2007)
Loud (2010)
Anti (2016)
Thanks everybody. 'Nother hat tip to Eephus. Really enjoyed this. Listened to tons of your stuff in which I was least familar. Sad no one gave the Eagles love, but it is what it is in this post-Lebowski influenced age. No playlist from me because I'm boycotting Spotify for being so limited in the last draft "I tried" to participate in. Youtube Music ftw, guys and gals.
Round 12
Girl Gone Bad (2007)
Loud (2010)
Anti (2016)
Thanks everybody. 'Nother hat tip to Eephus. Really enjoyed this. Listened to tons of your stuff in which I was least familar. Sad no one gave the Eagles love, but it is what it is in this post-Lebowski influenced age. No playlist from me because I'm boycotting Spotify for being so limited in the last draft "I tried" to participate in. Youtube Music ftw, guys and gals.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Didn't know you were a fan too.
There isn't an album I don't love from Morningrise until they get to Heritage which I think is pretty uneven and I hardly listen to. The I love the 2 after that and am 50/50 on the newest.
Eephus
Footballguy
12.ee - XTC
Drums and Wires (1979)
English Settlement (1982)
Skylarking (1986)
I had someone else slotted for the last round but while looking through my previous picks, I realized I'd completely avoided my usual UK Post-Punk sweet spot. I had a bunch of bands longlisted but they kept getting picked by others and my faves Echo & the Bunnymen were hard hit by the half decade rule.
Drums and Wires is where I originally discovered the band. It sounded incredibly fresh in the context of 70s Rock. I have fond memories of jumping around awkwardly at college parties to Helicopter.
English Settlement was a leap to a more expansive sound for the band. Their first four albums had stayed within the loose boundaries of New Wave but English Settlement took the band's music outside to more Beatlesque sounds. This is the first use of Beatlesque in this 50 page thread.
I seriously considered XTC's psychedelic side-project The Dukes of Stratosphear but their debut is technically a six song EP. The full-length Dukes album that followed is great but not as much as the EP. Skylarking is the chalk pick anyway. It's one of those albums that somehow succeeded in spite of venomous disagreements between Andy Partridge and producer Todd Rundgren.
Drums and Wires (1979)
English Settlement (1982)
Skylarking (1986)
I had someone else slotted for the last round but while looking through my previous picks, I realized I'd completely avoided my usual UK Post-Punk sweet spot. I had a bunch of bands longlisted but they kept getting picked by others and my faves Echo & the Bunnymen were hard hit by the half decade rule.
Drums and Wires is where I originally discovered the band. It sounded incredibly fresh in the context of 70s Rock. I have fond memories of jumping around awkwardly at college parties to Helicopter.
English Settlement was a leap to a more expansive sound for the band. Their first four albums had stayed within the loose boundaries of New Wave but English Settlement took the band's music outside to more Beatlesque sounds. This is the first use of Beatlesque in this 50 page thread.
I seriously considered XTC's psychedelic side-project The Dukes of Stratosphear but their debut is technically a six song EP. The full-length Dukes album that followed is great but not as much as the EP. Skylarking is the chalk pick anyway. It's one of those albums that somehow succeeded in spite of venomous disagreements between Andy Partridge and producer Todd Rundgren.
Last edited by a moderator:
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
I had their minor hit Generals and Majors on 45 but I didn't get into them much, though Chips from the Chocolate Fireball was a favorite when I was in college.
Oh, and I am the mayor of Simpleton.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
It's never done anything for me. To my ears it sounds like they're trying too hard to do the Sgt. Pepper thing. That was a big deal in the '80s because everyone else was trying to be "modern," but I don't think it's held up.
Love their first five albums, though. IMO they lost something when they stopped touring (and I realize they had no choice but to stop touring).
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
As my second encore...
12.14-The Call: Reconciled (1986) and Red Moon (1990)
The haunting yet so 80's sounding Everywhere I Go(listen for Peter Gabriel's backing vocals in the chorus) is a no-brainer, and just to set the record straight, their version of I Still Believe is great but suffers because of that gawdawful version everyone knows from the movie The Lost Boys.
The Red Moon album got me through a rough time in 95/96, so it will always have a place in my heart. From it, I chose What's Happened to You and Red Moon.
12.14-The Call: Reconciled (1986) and Red Moon (1990)
The haunting yet so 80's sounding Everywhere I Go(listen for Peter Gabriel's backing vocals in the chorus) is a no-brainer, and just to set the record straight, their version of I Still Believe is great but suffers because of that gawdawful version everyone knows from the movie The Lost Boys.
The Red Moon album got me through a rough time in 95/96, so it will always have a place in my heart. From it, I chose What's Happened to You and Red Moon.
krista4
Footballguy
at not even thinking of taking them, which I should have.
Eephus
Footballguy
This compiles the Dukes' EP and LP. It's their only representation on Spotify.
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
I never realized it was a compilation. Please don't tell me it's mentioned on the liner notes, or on the cover anywhere.
Eephus
Footballguy
I never realized it was a compilation. Please don't tell me it's mentioned on the liner notes, or on the cover anywhere.
It's there at the bottom of the CD cover (including ALL of PSYONIC PSUNSPOT and 25 O'CLOCK).
To be fair, all writing on CD packaging was too small and I didn't need bifocals back then.
Eephus
Footballguy
Well, that was fun. Thanks everybody for keeping the line moving. The gimmick wasn't everything I dreamed it would be but it altered strategy a little and provided a slightly different lens to view artists' careers.
We've drafted over 560 albums (and counting) in less time than it's taken for JML to post U2's worst song.
We've drafted over 560 albums (and counting) in less time than it's taken for JML to post U2's worst song.
landrys hat
Footballguy
12 - Wilco
AM (1995)
A Ghost Is Born (2004)
The Whole Love (2011)
AM (1995)
A Ghost Is Born (2004)
The Whole Love (2011)
rockaction
Footballguy
Last edited by a moderator:
krista4
Footballguy
I love AM and A Ghost Is Born but have never listened to The Whole Love. Need to remedy that! Great picks.
krista4
Footballguy
With this one done-ish, is anyone interested in my Rolling Stone Top 500 Pain Draft? Basically 25 drafters with 20 picks or 20 drafters with 25 picks, but they have to come from, in the case of 25 drafters, 1-20, 21-40, etc., so there's strategy and pain and listening to new music (which might be the same as pain) involved. Wanted to gauge interest from this group and @simey first before proceeding.
Eephus
Footballguy
Nine Wilco albums drafted including the collaborations with Billy Bragg. That's more than Bowie, Dylan or the Beatles.
rockaction
Footballguy
the moops
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Round 12
The Kinks
Arthur (1969)
”Victoria”
”Shangra La”
Everybody’s In Showbiz (1973)
”Sitting in My Hotel”
”Celluloid Heroes”
State of Confusion (1983)
“Don’t Forget to Dance”
”Come Dancing”
Much earlier in the draft @krista4selected this band’s two finest albums but I think that a group that has over three decades of excellence deserves even more attention than that.
The Kinks
Arthur (1969)
”Victoria”
”Shangra La”
Everybody’s In Showbiz (1973)
”Sitting in My Hotel”
”Celluloid Heroes”
State of Confusion (1983)
“Don’t Forget to Dance”
”Come Dancing”
Much earlier in the draft @krista4selected this band’s two finest albums but I think that a group that has over three decades of excellence deserves even more attention than that.
Last edited by a moderator:
Eephus
Footballguy
Eephus
Footballguy
landrys hat
Footballguy
simey
Footballguy
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Similar threads
