Who's fault is it for picking him so high? He was in a RBBC last year too until FJax got hurt. FJax is a very good RB and he proved that 2 years ago. So I am not sure why any of you Spiller lovers are so surprised. NFL teams do not give a crap about your FF teams. It is in their best interest to not wear Spiller down, especially given how he is not built to take punishment as a 25 carry guy.Bills featured back C.J. Spiller isn't complaining about sharing the load with veteran Fred Jackson. Spiller received 16 carries to Jackson's 12 against Carolina on Sunday, but he expressed satisfaction with those numbers.
"We had a great rotation on me and Fred, and that's what we're going to need," Spiller said on the team website. "I think this team ... it's going to start working on the run game. It's going to have to open things up for the receivers."
Not what I want to hear from my first round pick![]()
It's pretty simple - we're surprised because everything in the offseason, including the preseason games, pointed to Spiller basically carrying the load (till he threw up in fact) and getting value touches such as GL carries. Now you might say he's not built to be a 25 carry guy, and that's debatable (I personally think it's nonsense), but there was no indication prior to drafts that F-Jax was going to have a major role in this running game. In fact, it was looking like he was on the decline. Sure Spiller will still be valuable, and in a weak year for RBs, his usage will probably be enough to put up nice numbers, but I think owners had every reason to believe that a higher ceiling was there than is apparent through the first 2 weeks.Who's fault is it for picking him so high? He was in a RBBC last year too until FJax got hurt. FJax is a very good RB and he proved that 2 years ago. So I am not sure why any of you Spiller lovers are so surprised. NFL teams do not give a crap about your FF teams. It is in their best interest to not wear Spiller down, especially given how he is not built to take punishment as a 25 carry guy.Bills featured back C.J. Spiller isn't complaining about sharing the load with veteran Fred Jackson. Spiller received 16 carries to Jackson's 12 against Carolina on Sunday, but he expressed satisfaction with those numbers.
"We had a great rotation on me and Fred, and that's what we're going to need," Spiller said on the team website. "I think this team ... it's going to start working on the run game. It's going to have to open things up for the receivers."
Not what I want to hear from my first round pick![]()
The fact that he's not scoring TDs is a killer in non-ppr.It's pretty simple - we're surprised because everything in the offseason, including the preseason games, pointed to Spiller basically carrying the load (till he threw up in fact) and getting value touches such as GL carries. Now you might say he's not built to be a 25 carry guy, and that's debatable (I personally think it's nonsense), but there was no indication prior to drafts that F-Jax was going to have a major role in this running game. In fact, it was looking like he was on the decline. Sure Spiller will still be valuable, and in a weak year for RBs, his usage will probably be enough to put up nice numbers, but I think owners had every reason to believe that a higher ceiling was there than is apparent through the first 2 weeks.Who's fault is it for picking him so high? He was in a RBBC last year too until FJax got hurt. FJax is a very good RB and he proved that 2 years ago. So I am not sure why any of you Spiller lovers are so surprised. NFL teams do not give a crap about your FF teams. It is in their best interest to not wear Spiller down, especially given how he is not built to take punishment as a 25 carry guy.Bills featured back C.J. Spiller isn't complaining about sharing the load with veteran Fred Jackson. Spiller received 16 carries to Jackson's 12 against Carolina on Sunday, but he expressed satisfaction with those numbers.
"We had a great rotation on me and Fred, and that's what we're going to need," Spiller said on the team website. "I think this team ... it's going to start working on the run game. It's going to have to open things up for the receivers."
Not what I want to hear from my first round pick![]()
It's pretty simple - we're surprised because everything in the offseason, including the preseason games, pointed to Spiller basically carrying the load (till he threw up in fact) and getting value touches such as GL carries. Now you might say he's not built to be a 25 carry guy, and that's debatable (I personally think it's nonsense), but there was no indication prior to drafts that F-Jax was going to have a major role in this running game. In fact, it was looking like he was on the decline. Sure Spiller will still be valuable, and in a weak year for RBs, his usage will probably be enough to put up nice numbers, but I think owners had every reason to believe that a higher ceiling was there than is apparent through the first 2 weeks.Who's fault is it for picking him so high? He was in a RBBC last year too until FJax got hurt. FJax is a very good RB and he proved that 2 years ago. So I am not sure why any of you Spiller lovers are so surprised. NFL teams do not give a crap about your FF teams. It is in their best interest to not wear Spiller down, especially given how he is not built to take punishment as a 25 carry guy.Bills featured back C.J. Spiller isn't complaining about sharing the load with veteran Fred Jackson. Spiller received 16 carries to Jackson's 12 against Carolina on Sunday, but he expressed satisfaction with those numbers.
"We had a great rotation on me and Fred, and that's what we're going to need," Spiller said on the team website. "I think this team ... it's going to start working on the run game. It's going to have to open things up for the receivers."
Not what I want to hear from my first round pick![]()
What was his game to game std deviation and PPG with and without Fred Jackson last year?Does everyone forget that Spiller was a top 10 back last year with just over 200 carries? So basically 14 carries a game. They are the new version of Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones, he will finish top 10 barring injury and if Fred Jackson gets dinged up again he could be even better. Just relax
Just because you were blind to the fact that FJax is a quality proven back who was a RB1 only 2 years back does not mean everyone else did not see the indication that you obviously missed. Just because the coach said they will use Spiller until he threw up means nothing. That could mean 15 carries a game. Also, maybe the coaches found out that he is really not built for that kind of load. Maybe the coaches found out that FJax is pretty good in certain situations, certain plays etcIt's pretty simple - we're surprised because everything in the offseason, including the preseason games, pointed to Spiller basically carrying the load (till he threw up in fact) and getting value touches such as GL carries. Now you might say he's not built to be a 25 carry guy, and that's debatable (I personally think it's nonsense), but there was no indication prior to drafts that F-Jax was going to have a major role in this running game. In fact, it was looking like he was on the decline. Sure Spiller will still be valuable, and in a weak year for RBs, his usage will probably be enough to put up nice numbers, but I think owners had every reason to believe that a higher ceiling was there than is apparent through the first 2 weeks.Who's fault is it for picking him so high? He was in a RBBC last year too until FJax got hurt. FJax is a very good RB and he proved that 2 years ago. So I am not sure why any of you Spiller lovers are so surprised. NFL teams do not give a crap about your FF teams. It is in their best interest to not wear Spiller down, especially given how he is not built to take punishment as a 25 carry guy.Bills featured back C.J. Spiller isn't complaining about sharing the load with veteran Fred Jackson. Spiller received 16 carries to Jackson's 12 against Carolina on Sunday, but he expressed satisfaction with those numbers.
"We had a great rotation on me and Fred, and that's what we're going to need," Spiller said on the team website. "I think this team ... it's going to start working on the run game. It's going to have to open things up for the receivers."
Not what I want to hear from my first round pick![]()
he is not a goal line battering ram....not sure why it is so surprising.The fact that he's not scoring TDs is a killer in non-ppr.It's pretty simple - we're surprised because everything in the offseason, including the preseason games, pointed to Spiller basically carrying the load (till he threw up in fact) and getting value touches such as GL carries. Now you might say he's not built to be a 25 carry guy, and that's debatable (I personally think it's nonsense), but there was no indication prior to drafts that F-Jax was going to have a major role in this running game. In fact, it was looking like he was on the decline. Sure Spiller will still be valuable, and in a weak year for RBs, his usage will probably be enough to put up nice numbers, but I think owners had every reason to believe that a higher ceiling was there than is apparent through the first 2 weeks.Who's fault is it for picking him so high? He was in a RBBC last year too until FJax got hurt. FJax is a very good RB and he proved that 2 years ago. So I am not sure why any of you Spiller lovers are so surprised. NFL teams do not give a crap about your FF teams. It is in their best interest to not wear Spiller down, especially given how he is not built to take punishment as a 25 carry guy.Bills featured back C.J. Spiller isn't complaining about sharing the load with veteran Fred Jackson. Spiller received 16 carries to Jackson's 12 against Carolina on Sunday, but he expressed satisfaction with those numbers.
"We had a great rotation on me and Fred, and that's what we're going to need," Spiller said on the team website. "I think this team ... it's going to start working on the run game. It's going to have to open things up for the receivers."
Not what I want to hear from my first round pick![]()
Yeah OK. I'm not blind to the fact that F-Jax is a quality back - no one questions that, but that's another question entirely. There weren't any indications that I missed (unless you would like to point one out for me) - as I said, the indications were that Spiller was going to have a huge role in this offense and more specifically, that this wasn't going to be a RBBC, regardless of the quality of F-Jax. And yes, there is coach speak, but a lot of what we are doing in FF as far as assessing situations is piecing together clues or comments or whatever. I don't see why it wasn't reasonable to do that here - again, there was nothing that came out in the offseason that suggested this would be an almost even split between Spiller and F-Jax. Nothing. In fact it was the opposite. Did the coaches see more from F-Jax than they expected? Maybe they did. But we didn't know about it and you are here criticising Spiller owners for taking him so high since this was obviously going to be a RBBC. I guess you are great at hindsight.Just because you were blind to the fact that FJax is a quality proven back who was a RB1 only 2 years back does not mean everyone else did not see the indication that you obviously missed. Just because the coach said they will use Spiller until he threw up means nothing. That could mean 15 carries a game. Also, maybe the coaches found out that he is really not built for that kind of load. Maybe the coaches found out that FJax is pretty good in certain situations, certain plays etcIt's pretty simple - we're surprised because everything in the offseason, including the preseason games, pointed to Spiller basically carrying the load (till he threw up in fact) and getting value touches such as GL carries. Now you might say he's not built to be a 25 carry guy, and that's debatable (I personally think it's nonsense), but there was no indication prior to drafts that F-Jax was going to have a major role in this running game. In fact, it was looking like he was on the decline. Sure Spiller will still be valuable, and in a weak year for RBs, his usage will probably be enough to put up nice numbers, but I think owners had every reason to believe that a higher ceiling was there than is apparent through the first 2 weeks.Who's fault is it for picking him so high? He was in a RBBC last year too until FJax got hurt. FJax is a very good RB and he proved that 2 years ago. So I am not sure why any of you Spiller lovers are so surprised. NFL teams do not give a crap about your FF teams. It is in their best interest to not wear Spiller down, especially given how he is not built to take punishment as a 25 carry guy.Bills featured back C.J. Spiller isn't complaining about sharing the load with veteran Fred Jackson. Spiller received 16 carries to Jackson's 12 against Carolina on Sunday, but he expressed satisfaction with those numbers.
"We had a great rotation on me and Fred, and that's what we're going to need," Spiller said on the team website. "I think this team ... it's going to start working on the run game. It's going to have to open things up for the receivers."
Not what I want to hear from my first round pick![]()
Do not ever forget that Bill Belichik once said he dreaded game planning for FJax. I will take Belichik's word on the quality and talent that FJax has over some rookie coach.
I am so tired of this rookie quarterback BS. You act like Joe Montana retired from the team. It was Ryan Fitzpatrick.What was his game to game std deviation and PPG with and without Fred Jackson last year?Does everyone forget that Spiller was a top 10 back last year with just over 200 carries? So basically 14 carries a game. They are the new version of Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones, he will finish top 10 barring injury and if Fred Jackson gets dinged up again he could be even better. Just relax
What were the carries with and without FJax last year?
What were the 11-15 ranked RBs at last year compared to Spiller?
Stop looking at year end ranks. Look at what he did in the situation the resembles what the situation is this year. He did not have a rookie QB that allowed teams to stack the box last year. He did not have FJax playing for 2nd half of year.
Every year we see half of the top 10 RBs disappear from the top 10. If you thought more about it, it was pretty obvious that Spiller was a candidate to be over drafted and not worth his ADP.
I am so tired of this top 10 BS.
This is my exact thoughts as well. Well, this and wishing I had taken McCoy instead.He's getting 20+ touches a game. The production will come, have a little patience.
I don't understand why anyone is disappointed at all. I guess if you are hell bent on complaining about something, you find something to complain about.Unless FJax gets hurt Spiller is going to dissapoint all season. I can't stand it when people say "but he almost broke a long run." I don't want to keep waiting on a top 5 pick.
Howbout you trade Spiller so you can complain in a different RB thread?Unless FJax gets hurt Spiller is going to dissapoint all season. I can't stand it when people say "but he almost broke a long run." I don't want to keep waiting on a top 5 pick.
True, it's funny to watch the overreactions. Spiller is talented, no doubt, the kind of talent that can make your fantasy day on just one play. He's putting up reasonable production on the touches he's had so far, I see no reason to worry. It's not like he's turned into Shonn Greene overnight or something.I don't understand why anyone is disappointed at all. I guess if you are hell bent on complaining about something, you find something to complain about.Unless FJax gets hurt Spiller is going to dissapoint all season. I can't stand it when people say "but he almost broke a long run." I don't want to keep waiting on a top 5 pick.
Guy is top 20 right now, a couple TDs away from top 10 (in my league).
I'm not one of the "sky is falling" guys, but you have to be disappointed that he's not the guy they run out to start the 2 minute offense. In fact in obvious passing downs it seems to be Fjax's role, which frustrates me because Spiller is most dangerous in the open field, which come from these exact situations.I don't understand why anyone is disappointed at all. I guess if you are hell bent on complaining about something, you find something to complain about.Unless FJax gets hurt Spiller is going to dissapoint all season. I can't stand it when people say "but he almost broke a long run." I don't want to keep waiting on a top 5 pick.
Guy is top 20 right now, a couple TDs away from top 10 (in my league).
2 games.I'm not one of the "sky is falling" guys, but you have to be disappointed that he's not the guy they run out to start the 2 minute offense. In fact in obvious passing downs it seems to be Fjax's role, which frustrates me because Spiller is most dangerous in the open field, which come from these exact situations.I don't understand why anyone is disappointed at all. I guess if you are hell bent on complaining about something, you find something to complain about.Unless FJax gets hurt Spiller is going to dissapoint all season. I can't stand it when people say "but he almost broke a long run." I don't want to keep waiting on a top 5 pick.
Guy is top 20 right now, a couple TDs away from top 10 (in my league).
Why wouldn't you be disappointed when a guy you drafted top 5 (maybe even top 3) is "only" top 20 (and that's in a PPR, he's lower in non-ppr)? Not to mention, he's splitting more with Jackson than expected, he's not running "until he throws up", etc.I don't understand why anyone is disappointed at all. I guess if you are hell bent on complaining about something, you find something to complain about.Unless FJax gets hurt Spiller is going to dissapoint all season. I can't stand it when people say "but he almost broke a long run." I don't want to keep waiting on a top 5 pick.
Guy is top 20 right now, a couple TDs away from top 10 (in my league).
This is just utter nonsense. Fred Jackson is 32 years old. Spiller has proven to be a game breaking talent, and is in his prime.Just because you were blind to the fact that FJax is a quality proven back who was a RB1 only 2 years back does not mean everyone else did not see the indication that you obviously missed. Just because the coach said they will use Spiller until he threw up means nothing. That could mean 15 carries a game. Also, maybe the coaches found out that he is really not built for that kind of load. Maybe the coaches found out that FJax is pretty good in certain situations, certain plays etcIt's pretty simple - we're surprised because everything in the offseason, including the preseason games, pointed to Spiller basically carrying the load (till he threw up in fact) and getting value touches such as GL carries. Now you might say he's not built to be a 25 carry guy, and that's debatable (I personally think it's nonsense), but there was no indication prior to drafts that F-Jax was going to have a major role in this running game. In fact, it was looking like he was on the decline. Sure Spiller will still be valuable, and in a weak year for RBs, his usage will probably be enough to put up nice numbers, but I think owners had every reason to believe that a higher ceiling was there than is apparent through the first 2 weeks.Who's fault is it for picking him so high? He was in a RBBC last year too until FJax got hurt. FJax is a very good RB and he proved that 2 years ago. So I am not sure why any of you Spiller lovers are so surprised. NFL teams do not give a crap about your FF teams. It is in their best interest to not wear Spiller down, especially given how he is not built to take punishment as a 25 carry guy.Bills featured back C.J. Spiller isn't complaining about sharing the load with veteran Fred Jackson. Spiller received 16 carries to Jackson's 12 against Carolina on Sunday, but he expressed satisfaction with those numbers.
"We had a great rotation on me and Fred, and that's what we're going to need," Spiller said on the team website. "I think this team ... it's going to start working on the run game. It's going to have to open things up for the receivers."
Not what I want to hear from my first round pick![]()
Do not ever forget that Bill Belichik once said he dreaded game planning for FJax. I will take Belichik's word on the quality and talent that FJax has over some rookie coach.
yea that coach is an idiot. Im disappointed to hopefully it's just 2 games and he get's on track and gets goalline and some more catches.... Seems like fjax is playing way to much ... stupid.
Spiller owners don't care if Jackson has outplayed Spiller. They still want CJ to play every snap.yea that coach is an idiot. Im disappointed to hopefully it's just 2 games and he get's on track and gets goalline and some more catches.... Seems like fjax is playing way to much ... stupid.Jackson has been excellent through 2 games. How is it stupid?
Yeah. I figured people would be breathing a sign of relief after he went for 130 total yards against a really tough run defense. But they're still freaking out. Weird. Seems like he is a guy I should be targeting to acquire if these guys are any indication of how Spiller owners feel.Spiller owners don't care if Jackson has outplayed Spiller. They still want CJ to play every snap.yea that coach is an idiot. Im disappointed to hopefully it's just 2 games and he get's on track and gets goalline and some more catches.... Seems like fjax is playing way to much ... stupid.Jackson has been excellent through 2 games. How is it stupid?
he is hesitant on every single thing he doesCan Spiller owners be worried now? Are we allowed?
Looks like I should have accepted the trade offer earlier this week where I got Fred Jackson and gave up Spiller. What a friggin bust...Can Spiller owners be worried now? Are we allowed?
It's always the coach's fault.yea that coach is an idiot. Im disappointed to hopefully it's just 2 games and he get's on track and gets goalline and some more catches.... Seems like fjax is playing way to much ... stupid.
Or maybe it was the 3 fumbles?He must be hurt. Zero 2nd quarter touches so far.