LargeMouthBass
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Another clown I will never draft as long as I live.
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Player Spotlight: C.J. Spiller, RB, Buffalo Bills (1 Viewer)
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msudaisy26
Footballguy
You can be nervous about the knee injury, but that is the only reason he didn't come back in. He is still the starter on this team if healthy.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
Man, people are so fickle. Spiller rushed for over 100 yards last week, now he's a bust who should never be trusted again. 
He's out with an injury. Granted, he wasn't putting up stats in the first half either, but still, you can't score points with an ice pack on your knee.
He's out with an injury. Granted, he wasn't putting up stats in the first half either, but still, you can't score points with an ice pack on your knee.
Important part bolded. Injury or not, he's been a bust so far for where we drafted him.Man, people are so fickle. Spiller rushed for over 100 yards last week, now he's a bust who should never be trusted again.
He's out with an injury. Granted, he wasn't putting up stats in the first half either, but still, you can't score points with an ice pack on your knee.
I am guilty, but no one should be surprised by Spiller not living up to his draft position. Rookie QB and weak O-line that lost its best player (Levitre). Recipe for 8 in the box every week. But why they are not running more bubble or middle screens, and draws, with him is beyond me.Important part bolded. Injury or not, he's been a bust so far for where we drafted him.Man, people are so fickle. Spiller rushed for over 100 yards last week, now he's a bust who should never be trusted again.
He's out with an injury. Granted, he wasn't putting up stats in the first half either, but still, you can't score points with an ice pack on your knee.
WilsonTheVolleyball
Footballguy
No.
Okay. Maybe.
Let's atleast give Fred Jackson some credit. The dude ain't chopped liver.
LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
I love how people that don't havce Spiller spew out nonsense in this thread.
And it's so obvious to tell who has him and who doesn't...
And it's so obvious to tell who has him and who doesn't...
WilsonTheVolleyball
Footballguy
Until we know the extent of his injury, we wait. But let's just assume the injury is minor, I think it just depends on your team. If you are thin at running back, then you're stuck. Along with Spiller, I have: Forte, Giovanni, Joique, and Ben Tate. I'm going to try and see what I can get.
Nah. Rather have Spiller than Wilson.
Game Time
Footballguy
There's the problem... you're only going to get low ball offers now... The guy has all the talent and the tools... He needs his coach to get his head out of his ### and use him correctly.... He is a NON-FACTOR in the passing game now.. doesn't even run routes..... (Would an occasional screen pass be too much to ask) and also need to stop having him run it up the gut.... He needs to do what the Eagles do.. spread out the defense to create space..... IF Spiller can get a seam.. he is gone....
SO to respond to your post... he might have to "hold" for now since you won't get fair value.....
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
I chose him over Jimmy Graham in a keeper league. Eff my life.
Banger
Footballguy
I'd package Wayne while he still may have some name value. Gordon >>>> Wayne at this point. He did more in one game then Wayne all year.
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Ebaker5
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msudaisy26
Footballguy
When he posted 10 yards on 10 touches and Fred Jackson was averaging 10 yards per carry I'm pretty sure he did puke a bit.
Banger
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Jamaal Charles was a first round pick when he was in a committee with Thomas Jones. Even if people knew he would be in a committee this year with Jackson he would still have gone in the first round, because he put up rb1 numbers with committee like work last year.
Game Time
Footballguy
IF you watched the game that FJax's long run was a fluke run (59 yarder) ... stupid play by Pace on a short yardage play and he let him go.. Take that run out and he goes 6 for 13 yards.... It goes back to the play calling... can't keep running it straight up the gut.. The line just isn't opening any holes.... Got to spread the field to create space and let the guys with speed make plays..... THat's one thing Chip Kelly is a master at and look what Shady does with some space... Spiller could do that too but they have to play to his strengths..... right now they aren't....
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I am a big Spiller supporter but this is stretching it, you can't take away his big run. Jackson made a play and took advantage of a mistake by the defense, that is what good players do.
Spiller was trying to bounce it outside and looked impatient in week 1, then in week 2 it looked like he slowed it down and did a better job of being patient, then in week 3 he looked impatient again and you seen the results. However, I am not going to jump off the cliff because he was ruled out for the second half and he had 9 carries for 10 yards, we have no idea if he would have broke one in the second half or would have had 9 more carries for 10 yards.
I am more concerned about his injury, if he is okay, he will be fine going forward
bleachercreacher
Footballguy
After reading this thread, I'm going to attempt to buy Spiller wherever I can, assuming he isn't out for an extended period of time. Great buy low right now.
OC Zed
Footballguy
LOL at the all the panicking in this thread. He was injured in the first half of Week 3 (looks to be minor). He had a poor Week 1 and very solid Week 2 (going for over 100 yards)... and yet everyone assumes the guy is washed up. Have some perspective, people.
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GroveDiesel
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And the Jet's run defense has been absolutely dominant. Like, I'm guessing they're on an historical pace type dominant.
I love how any good player who isn't getting it done is a great buy low. Spiller, Wilson, whoever.....maybe they are, but not in all cases.
JOBOOZOSO
Footballguy
OC Zed
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And in a broader context, he's played three strong defenses thus far... not like he was running against the Redskins, Packers or Eagles.
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Game Time
Footballguy
I think it might be hard though as all Spiller owners might have to hold since they won't be able to get good value..... If you could pull it off good luck.. I know I'm a Spiller owner and am looking to move him, but I won't take a low offer because of the first 3 weeks....
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
OC Zed
Footballguy
And I'd like to know how RBs are faring against the Carolina and NE defenses as well? I'm betting pretty similar... I don't think Lynch and the Giants ran well against Carolina at least.
bleachercreacher
Footballguy
I wouldn't either if I had him. I think if you have Spiller he's a hold unless you get a great offer. However, it's worth sending an offer or two to the Spiller owner. You never know what will get accepted, especially if you offer a 2 for 1, and help the owner in another position. With the time share, poor performance today, and injury, you never know what will get accepted.
LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
bleachercreacher
Footballguy
Is that not the definition of a buy low? I don't like Wilson as a buy because their line is awful, but I would buy anyone at the right price. Spiller owners are mad at the timeshare, and if you throw the injury and lack of production today, I'm buying as a RB2/RB3.RushHour said:
Corn Rocket
Footballguy
3-0 but luckily drafted guys like Jimmy, Demarco, Stafford, D Jax.JOBOOZOSO said:
HurryUpSundays
Footballguy
I love Fred and have him on the bench of all but one of my leagues, but Choice might be the speculative add here as Fred is one prone Jackson.
I'm 3-0 with him. But I have Shady, Graham, and Ryan picking up the slack (and tonight A Brown). Kicking myself for passing over Jamaal Charles for Spiller. I admit I was weak and fell for the hype. But it's a long season. As long as he's not hurt, selling low doesn't seem like a good play now.ponchsox said:
OC Zed
Footballguy
OC Zed said:
The perspective is we're nearly 1/4 way through the ff regular season and Spiller has sucked a fat one for fantasy.
Like I said, Week 1 was a bad game against a solid Pats defense. He ran for over 100 yards against a stout Panthers' run defense. And he injures his knee in the first half of Week 3 which I would consider a wash. But go ahead and just look at his total stats and make a knee-jerk reaction. That's some good analysis. I bet you think Eddie Royal is an all-pro receiver also.
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jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
The game wasn't televised where I was watching my football today. I have to ask--how bad did the knee injury look? Was it a non-contact injury etc?
nobody knew he was hurt until much later in the game so it wasn't obvious which play it happened on at the time. seemed like he was getting spelled by Fred Jackson but then never came back in. they announced much later that he was out with a knee injury. His return was first listed as questionable, and later downgraded to out I think.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Maybe not, but a lot of those people were not paying attention. It was always obvious that Fred Jackson was still gonna get touches (as I said back in May in post 5 in this thread); how many was unclear. But since Spiller hasn't lit the world on fire, and Jackson still looks good, here we are. This is not a surprise to me at all.RushHour said:
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
wow...I own him and I'm not sure if that should give me hope or if I should be super worried. From what you are saying--it could be a benching that they are trying to mask under the veil on an injury--or it could be something pretty serious. For my sake--I do hope that it's nothing too serious.
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