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Police ambushed and killed in "start of revolution" in Vegas (2 Viewers)

Jerad Miller April 9 ·
I will be supporting Clive Bundy and his family from Federal Government slaughter. This is the next Waco! His ranch is under siege right now! The federal gov is stealing his cattle! Arresting his family and beating on them! We must do something, I will be doing something.
Jerad Miller· April 9 ·
Ranch war almost under way

we need to watch this closely, could be the next Waco and start of revolution
 
According to a number of people at 111 Percent Patriots, this was a government setup.

I know I'm stating the obvious, but this just doesn't pass the smell test.

The description of the shooters reads like a caricature of what the MSM thinks we are.

Let's see...young; mid 20's...new to area yet running their mouths to all and sundry about killin' and going underground...claimed to have been kicked out of Bundy Ranch; nice tie-in there...draped the Gadsden over the LEO afterwards, something I believe no Patriot would do; making a statement, or planting evidence...white power papers and symbols "found" in their apt...killed themselves after because, of course, ALL "terrorists", foreign or domestic, suicide after or during an Op...

Their M.O. sounds more OWS than anything else. Be interesting to see what details come out on their identities. Unless it all gets buried..
 
He was a fan of Open Carry Texas.

https://www.facebook.com/jerad.miller.1/posts/717903214915185

Jerad Miller shared David Lory VanDerBeek's status update.
June 2 at 6:02pm ·
David Lory VanDerBeek
I see Obama's Socialist agenda of anti-2nd Amendment, pro-amnesty, Agenda 21 de-industrialization is in trouble. They need to grease the wheels of fear and politicizing a shooting in CA is not going to do it. People become numbed to the politics of shootings. The public attitude is "Oh, another shooting..." The political elite have over played this political card. So they ramp up the rhetoric for a big terrorist attack. But if nothing happens, it only numbs the people more. In order to pass big new laws against freedom like another Patriot Act, they have to get a reaction and sustain the frenzy. That is why 9/11 worked. It was a sustained frenzy of fear. There is no way to carry out another WTC 7 with everyone watching from the get go. We are governed by some very, very sick, sick evil people.
 
They were kicked off of the Bundy ranch....how out there do you have to be for the Bundy ranch people to say ..."uh thanks, but no thanks..."

 
According to a number of people at 111 Percent Patriots, this was a government setup.

I know I'm stating the obvious, but this just doesn't pass the smell test.

The description of the shooters reads like a caricature of what the MSM thinks we are.

Let's see...young; mid 20's...new to area yet running their mouths to all and sundry about killin' and going underground...claimed to have been kicked out of Bundy Ranch; nice tie-in there...draped the Gadsden over the LEO afterwards, something I believe no Patriot would do; making a statement, or planting evidence...white power papers and symbols "found" in their apt...killed themselves after because, of course, ALL "terrorists", foreign or domestic, suicide after or during an Op...

Their M.O. sounds more OWS than anything else. Be interesting to see what details come out on their identities. Unless it all gets buried..
I literally choked on my water with that one. How precious.

 
Hey, its everyone versus you in this lack-of-logic-hissyfit you are experiencing right now.
So...it's the far left nuts vs me? I'm honored. Thanks.

And the only one throwing hissy fits are you guys droning on about conservative ideology causing this killing. And banning guns. Happens every time with you guys - it's like clockwork.

I'm simply pointing out that you far left nuts have plenty of killers who align with your ideology and rhetoric. Taking some kind of moral high ground like you guys are is probably not a good idea.
Yeah, well they want to remove the guns from those crazy lefties also. But using Elliot Rogers was a flat mistake by you.
Negative. he's yours - own him.
Serious question - did you graduate from high school or are you still in high school??
Why do you want to know if I'm still in high school? You looking for a date?

 
Hey, its everyone versus you in this lack-of-logic-hissyfit you are experiencing right now.
So...it's the far left nuts vs me? I'm honored. Thanks.

And the only one throwing hissy fits are you guys droning on about conservative ideology causing this killing. And banning guns. Happens every time with you guys - it's like clockwork.

I'm simply pointing out that you far left nuts have plenty of killers who align with your ideology and rhetoric. Taking some kind of moral high ground like you guys are is probably not a good idea.
Yeah, well they want to remove the guns from those crazy lefties also. But using Elliot Rogers was a flat mistake by you.
Negative. he's yours - own him.
Serious question - did you graduate from high school or are you still in high school??
Why do you want to know if I'm still in high school? You looking for a date?
High school chicks; i keep getting older, they stay the same age.

 
Hey, its everyone versus you in this lack-of-logic-hissyfit you are experiencing right now.
So...it's the far left nuts vs me? I'm honored. Thanks.

And the only one throwing hissy fits are you guys droning on about conservative ideology causing this killing. And banning guns. Happens every time with you guys - it's like clockwork.

I'm simply pointing out that you far left nuts have plenty of killers who align with your ideology and rhetoric. Taking some kind of moral high ground like you guys are is probably not a good idea.
Yeah, well they want to remove the guns from those crazy lefties also. But using Elliot Rogers was a flat mistake by you.
Negative. he's yours - own him.
Serious question - did you graduate from high school or are you still in high school??
Why do you want to know if I'm still in high school? You looking for a date?
I think this response helped convince us all of your maturity. :thumbup:

 
Everything I have seen cone out has been on the guy and not the girl. Has anyone seen anything on her?

 
Hey, its everyone versus you in this lack-of-logic-hissyfit you are experiencing right now.
So...it's the far left nuts vs me? I'm honored. Thanks.

And the only one throwing hissy fits are you guys droning on about conservative ideology causing this killing. And banning guns. Happens every time with you guys - it's like clockwork.

I'm simply pointing out that you far left nuts have plenty of killers who align with your ideology and rhetoric. Taking some kind of moral high ground like you guys are is probably not a good idea.
Yeah, well they want to remove the guns from those crazy lefties also. But using Elliot Rogers was a flat mistake by you.
Negative. he's yours - own him.
Serious question - did you graduate from high school or are you still in high school??
Why do you want to know if I'm still in high school? You looking for a date?
I think this response helped convince us all of your maturity. :thumbup:
Meh. You ask me an silly question, you get a silly answer.

 
Jerad Miller's post on Inforwars in 2012

Now, that was my last encounter with police officers. I’m afraid they may try to do some stuff like that to my fiance and I. For the most part, I’m a law abiding citizen. I believe in Gods law. You know the ones. Dont steal, dont murder, etc. I fear that if they came, even with a warrant, that I feel they are being unlawfull and infringing upon my rights. I feel that I have been violated and tread upon. That the so called justice system has done me harm. I do not wish to kill police. I understand that most of them believe they are doing the right thing. Yet, I will not go to jail, because I have not committed a crime! I would rather die than be labeled as a criminal. Let them call me a terrorist. Let them label me as a fanatic, some nut job. I know the truth, and so does God. I’m sure our founding fathers were labeled as such. Call me a radical, i will wear that badge with pride. Because America is a radical idea! Brought up upon radical thinking. That each man has constitutional rights that are God given and cannot be taken away no matter what. I refuse to stand by and let them dictate my life. My family loves me, my neighbors love me. I do good for the community, more than any cop can claim. How can a police officer have a consience arresting people who have done nothing to harm a fellow american? How can they sleep at night? I wouldnt be able to. So as i reflect, I’m being pushed further and further into a corner. I am like a wild coyote. You corner me, I will fight to the death. I love America, i love the idea of it. I am broken hearted tho to see people so pacified by materealism and obsession with hollywood stars. It is our duty as American citizens to stand against tyranny. To stand against corruption at all levels. How did this happen? That patriots like me could be resting under the boot of tyrants, and as i plead for help from my fellow americans they just walk on by. All the while thinking, at least its not happening to me. Yet, the sad thing is, it is happening to them. So, do I kill cops and make a stand when they come to get me? I would prefer to die than sit in their jail, when I have done nothing to hurt anyone.
 
Jerad Miller's post on Inforwars in 2012

Now, that was my last encounter with police officers. Im afraid they may try to do some stuff like that to my fiance and I. For the most part, Im a law abiding citizen. I believe in Gods law. You know the ones. Dont steal, dont murder, etc. I fear that if they came, even with a warrant, that I feel they are being unlawfull and infringing upon my rights. I feel that I have been violated and tread upon. That the so called justice system has done me harm. I do not wish to kill police. I understand that most of them believe they are doing the right thing. Yet, I will not go to jail, because I have not committed a crime! I would rather die than be labeled as a criminal. Let them call me a terrorist. Let them label me as a fanatic, some nut job. I know the truth, and so does God. Im sure our founding fathers were labeled as such. Call me a radical, i will wear that badge with pride. Because America is a radical idea! Brought up upon radical thinking. That each man has constitutional rights that are God given and cannot be taken away no matter what. I refuse to stand by and let them dictate my life. My family loves me, my neighbors love me. I do good for the community, more than any cop can claim. How can a police officer have a consience arresting people who have done nothing to harm a fellow american? How can they sleep at night? I wouldnt be able to. So as i reflect, Im being pushed further and further into a corner. I am like a wild coyote. You corner me, I will fight to the death. I love America, i love the idea of it. I am broken hearted tho to see people so pacified by materealism and obsession with hollywood stars. It is our duty as American citizens to stand against tyranny. To stand against corruption at all levels. How did this happen? That patriots like me could be resting under the boot of tyrants, and as i plead for help from my fellow americans they just walk on by. All the while thinking, at least its not happening to me. Yet, the sad thing is, it is happening to them. So, do I kill cops and make a stand when they come to get me? I would prefer to die than sit in their jail, when I have done nothing to hurt anyone.
Was he charged with something?

 
Jerad Miller's post on Inforwars in 2012

Now, that was my last encounter with police officers. Im afraid they may try to do some stuff like that to my fiance and I. For the most part, Im a law abiding citizen. I believe in Gods law. You know the ones. Dont steal, dont murder, etc. I fear that if they came, even with a warrant, that I feel they are being unlawfull and infringing upon my rights. I feel that I have been violated and tread upon. That the so called justice system has done me harm. I do not wish to kill police. I understand that most of them believe they are doing the right thing. Yet, I will not go to jail, because I have not committed a crime! I would rather die than be labeled as a criminal. Let them call me a terrorist. Let them label me as a fanatic, some nut job. I know the truth, and so does God. Im sure our founding fathers were labeled as such. Call me a radical, i will wear that badge with pride. Because America is a radical idea! Brought up upon radical thinking. That each man has constitutional rights that are God given and cannot be taken away no matter what. I refuse to stand by and let them dictate my life. My family loves me, my neighbors love me. I do good for the community, more than any cop can claim. How can a police officer have a consience arresting people who have done nothing to harm a fellow american? How can they sleep at night? I wouldnt be able to. So as i reflect, Im being pushed further and further into a corner. I am like a wild coyote. You corner me, I will fight to the death. I love America, i love the idea of it. I am broken hearted tho to see people so pacified by materealism and obsession with hollywood stars. It is our duty as American citizens to stand against tyranny. To stand against corruption at all levels. How did this happen? That patriots like me could be resting under the boot of tyrants, and as i plead for help from my fellow americans they just walk on by. All the while thinking, at least its not happening to me. Yet, the sad thing is, it is happening to them. So, do I kill cops and make a stand when they come to get me? I would prefer to die than sit in their jail, when I have done nothing to hurt anyone.
Was he charged with something?
He was on probation at the time for selling marijuana according to the link. Later he was in a friend's house who the police came looking for. The whole story's in the link.

 
Everything I have seen cone out has been on the guy and not the girl. Has anyone seen anything on her?
Her facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.woodruff.9/likes_other

Cat pictures, dressing up in superhero outfits, and a coffee table.
Apparently she killed the first cop while he was filling a cup at a soda fountain. She shot him point blank in the back of the head. She immediately turned and opened fire on the second cop. She then stalked the armed civilian and shot him in the head from behind. In the Walmart bathroom she shot and killed Jared before turning the gun on herself. Quite possible all five deaths were her doing.

 
One has to wonder how much marijuana contributed to the mental illnesses of people like these folks and Adam Lanza....

 
I agree with Rove. It's not really a joking matter. Marijuana is relatively harmless for most of us (and I have no problem with its legalization). But for people who are mentally ill, it can be a huge problem.

 
From the National Association on Mental Illness:

What is the relationship between marijuana and mental illness?

The overwhelming consensus from mental health professionals is that marijuana is not helpful—and potentially dangerous—for people with mental illness. Using marijuana can directly worsen symptoms of anxiety, depression or schizophrenia through its actions on the brain. People who smoke marijuana are also less likely to actively participate in their treatment—missing more appointments and having more difficulty with medication-adherence—than people who abstain from using this drug.

The relationship between marijuana and psychotic illness, specifically schizophrenia, has been studied for many years and is receiving increasing publicity in the mainstream media. Certainly not all people who smoke marijuana will develop schizophrenia, but people who are at risk of developing this illness—including individuals with close family relatives that have severe mental illness—will be more likely to experience psychosis if they are using marijuana. In this population of individuals, people who regularly smoke marijuana are diagnosed with schizophrenia at a younger age, hospitalized more frequently for their illness and are less likely to experience complete recovery even with high quality treatment. This is particularly concerning, as approximately one-third of people in America with schizophrenia regularly abuse marijuana.

 
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Everything I have seen cone out has been on the guy and not the girl. Has anyone seen anything on her?
Her facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.woodruff.9/likes_other

Cat pictures, dressing up in superhero outfits, and a coffee table.
Apparently she killed the first cop while he was filling a cup at a soda fountain. She shot him point blank in the back of the head. She immediately turned and opened fire on the second cop. She then stalked the armed civilian and shot him in the head from behind. In the Walmart bathroom she shot and killed Jared before turning the gun on herself. Quite possible all five deaths were her doing.
Sounds like he killed the first cop.

The pair began their attack about 11:20 a.m. Sunday, when they opened fire inside the restaurant where Beck, 41, and Soldo, 31, were having lunch.

"I just sat down to have lunch. The officers were sitting in front of me, at the table right next to me, and this man came in out of nowhere," a dazed Sheree Burns told CNN affiliate KTNV.

"I thought he was going to get a drink, the way he walked up and walked past them. And then he turned around, pulled a gun on his right and shot the bald officer in front of me."
Sounds like she killed the citizen:

The pair ran to Walmart where Jerad Miller fired off one round and told people to get out, McMahill said.

A shopper, identified as Joseph Wilcox, told his friend he was going to confront the suspects.

"He was carrying a concealed weapon, and he immediately and heroically moved towards the position of Jerad Miller. Upon completing that action, he did not realize that Amanda Miller was with Jerad Miller," McMahill told reporters.

He continued: "As soon as he began to confront Jerad Miller with his firearm, Amanda Miller removed her firearm and shot him one time in the ribs area where he immediately collapsed."

Wilcox, 31, "died attempting to protect others," Gillespie said.
I wonder if I was carrying a weapon, and the shooters are telling people to get out (rather than killing anyone) if I draw down on him or just GTFO. I'd be curious to hear what some gun owners would do in this situation.

 
Everything I have seen cone out has been on the guy and not the girl. Has anyone seen anything on her?
Her facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.woodruff.9/likes_other

Cat pictures, dressing up in superhero outfits, and a coffee table.
Apparently she killed the first cop while he was filling a cup at a soda fountain. She shot him point blank in the back of the head. She immediately turned and opened fire on the second cop. She then stalked the armed civilian and shot him in the head from behind. In the Walmart bathroom she shot and killed Jared before turning the gun on herself. Quite possible all five deaths were her doing.
Sounds like he killed the first cop.

The pair began their attack about 11:20 a.m. Sunday, when they opened fire inside the restaurant where Beck, 41, and Soldo, 31, were having lunch.

"I just sat down to have lunch. The officers were sitting in front of me, at the table right next to me, and this man came in out of nowhere," a dazed Sheree Burns told CNN affiliate KTNV.

"I thought he was going to get a drink, the way he walked up and walked past them. And then he turned around, pulled a gun on his right and shot the bald officer in front of me."
Sounds like she killed the citizen:

The pair ran to Walmart where Jerad Miller fired off one round and told people to get out, McMahill said.

A shopper, identified as Joseph Wilcox, told his friend he was going to confront the suspects.

"He was carrying a concealed weapon, and he immediately and heroically moved towards the position of Jerad Miller. Upon completing that action, he did not realize that Amanda Miller was with Jerad Miller," McMahill told reporters.

He continued: "As soon as he began to confront Jerad Miller with his firearm, Amanda Miller removed her firearm and shot him one time in the ribs area where he immediately collapsed."

Wilcox, 31, "died attempting to protect others," Gillespie said.
I wonder if I was carrying a weapon, and the shooters are telling people to get out (rather than killing anyone) if I draw down on him or just GTFO. I'd be curious to hear what some gun owners would do in this situation.
Pretty clear to me he is dead solely because he pulled out that gun. Another example of guns in the hands of the citizenry causing the death of innocents.

 
Everything I have seen cone out has been on the guy and not the girl. Has anyone seen anything on her?
Her facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.woodruff.9/likes_other

Cat pictures, dressing up in superhero outfits, and a coffee table.
Apparently she killed the first cop while he was filling a cup at a soda fountain. She shot him point blank in the back of the head. She immediately turned and opened fire on the second cop. She then stalked the armed civilian and shot him in the head from behind. In the Walmart bathroom she shot and killed Jared before turning the gun on herself. Quite possible all five deaths were her doing.
Sounds like he killed the first cop.
This is the account I read:

Officers Alyn Beck, 41, and Igor Soldo, 31, were having lunch at CiCi’s Pizza restaurant at about 11.20am Sunday (4.20am Monday AEST) when one of the two shooters yelled, “This is the start of the revolution,” officials said.
The female assailant then came up from behind Soldo and shot him in the head, law enforcement sources told the Review-Journal. Amanda Miller then opened fire on Beck, mortally wounding him, sources told the paper. Beck managed to squeeze off return fire, but it was unclear if he hit them.
She also apparently shot a her husband several times before killing herself. :shrug:

 
The overwhelming consensus from mental health professionals is that marijuana is not helpful—and potentially dangerous—for people with mental illness. Using marijuana can directly worsen symptoms of anxiety, depression or schizophrenia through its actions on the brain. People who smoke marijuana are also less likely to actively participate in their treatment—missing more appointments and having more difficulty with medication-adherence—than people who abstain from using this drug.

The relationship between marijuana and psychotic illness, specifically schizophrenia, has been studied for many years and is receiving increasing publicity in the mainstream media. Certainly not all people who smoke marijuana will develop schizophrenia, but people who are at risk of developing this illness—including individuals with close family relatives that have severe mental illness—will be more likely to experience psychosis if they are using marijuana. In this population of individuals, people who regularly smoke marijuana are diagnosed with schizophrenia at a younger age, hospitalized more frequently for their illness and are less likely to experience complete recovery even with high quality treatment. This is particularly concerning, as approximately one-third of people in America with schizophrenia regularly abuse marijuana.
http://www.nami.org/Template.cfm?Section=Smoking_Cessation&Template=%2FContentManagement%2FContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=152816

 
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/news/20050503/federal-report-marijuana-causes-mental-illness

Children who use marijuana before age 12 are twice as likely to later develop serious mental illness as those who don't try the drug until they're 18, according to a federal report released Tuesday.
That's probably true of plenty of chemicals during the formative years.

And .... Neil McKeganey, PhD, professor of drug misuse at the University of Glasgow in Scotland- notes that scientists have not yet uncovered evidence linking marijuana use to the brain changes routinely seen in people who suffer from mental illness.

And... Paul P. Casadonte, MD, a psychiatrist and associate clinical professor at New York University, cautions in an interview that research is not yet strong enough to show a causal link between marijuana use and serious mental disorders.

In that same link

 
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The overwhelming consensus from mental health professionals is that marijuana is not helpful—and potentially dangerous—for people with mental illness. Using marijuana can directly worsen symptoms of anxiety, depression or schizophrenia through its actions on the brain. People who smoke marijuana are also less likely to actively participate in their treatment—missing more appointments and having more difficulty with medication-adherence—than people who abstain from using this drug.

The relationship between marijuana and psychotic illness, specifically schizophrenia, has been studied for many years and is receiving increasing publicity in the mainstream media. Certainly not all people who smoke marijuana will develop schizophrenia, but people who are at risk of developing this illness—including individuals with close family relatives that have severe mental illness—will be more likely to experience psychosis if they are using marijuana. In this population of individuals, people who regularly smoke marijuana are diagnosed with schizophrenia at a younger age, hospitalized more frequently for their illness and are less likely to experience complete recovery even with high quality treatment. This is particularly concerning, as approximately one-third of people in America with schizophrenia regularly abuse marijuana.
http://www.nami.org/Template.cfm?Section=Smoking_Cessation&Template=%2FContentManagement%2FContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=152816
That's a claim in an article, not a an actual scientific study.

 
It sounds like there have been a bunch of really solid clinical trials on marijuana use in 12 year olds.

 
http://psychcentral.com/lib/cannabis-may-cause-schizophrenia-like-brain-changes/00012781''

Researchers looking at the effects of cannabis on the brain have made some interesting discoveries. The effect is similar to some of the symptoms of schizophrenia, say Dr. Matthew Jones and colleagues at Bristol University, UK. They predicted that the detrimental impact of cannabis on memory and cognition might be caused by brain networks being “disorchestrated.”
They suggest that drugs which target the cannabinoid system are “a new therapeutic possibility for psychotic disorders.” However, they warn that drug studies so far have not had straightforward results, with different types of drug showing different effects.

But despite all these limitations, cannabidiol, a compound found in cannabis that activates cannabinoid receptors, has shown fairly consistent antipsychotic properties in animal tests. Recent studies indicate that cannabidiol may be as effective as antipsychotics in treating schizophrenia.

So it can also be a possible help against psychotic issues?

Sounds like more research is needed.

 
Pretty clear to me he is dead solely because he pulled out that gun. Another example of guns in the hands of the citizenry causing the death of innocents.
How many others could have been killed had he not pulled out that gun?

 

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