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Post Here if You Have or Know of Someone Who Has Been Harmed by Covid Vax (1 Viewer)
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timschochet
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Also Shutout, I want to tell you that you’re one of the reasons I’ve decided to return to the Political forum. Even though I disagree with you most of the time (often very strongly) I really appreciate your attempt to make well-reasoned arguments and your avoidance of personal attacks. You’re an excellent and thoughtful advocate.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
I know somebody that had a couple drops of blood at the injection site.
Can I call it a stab wound?
Can I call it a stab wound?
Shutout
Footballguy
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Seriously though, my hospital has a vaccine mandate, and ~92% of the healthcare system’s 8000+ employees are vaccinated, many with recent boosters. I’ve not heard of one person with a serious reaction to the vaccine.
I've also volunteered at a vaccine clinic. A couple people felt faint, but nobody required hospital referral. My friends who’ve volunteered at the clinic had similar experiences.
All my friends and family, excluding a couple kids and one young adult are vaccinated. No problems.
The vaccines are safe.
I've also volunteered at a vaccine clinic. A couple people felt faint, but nobody required hospital referral. My friends who’ve volunteered at the clinic had similar experiences.
All my friends and family, excluding a couple kids and one young adult are vaccinated. No problems.
The vaccines are safe.
LawFitz
Footballguy
@jobarules had a swollen lymph node?
I actually have a friend who had a severely swollen lymph node for about a week after. Forgot to mention him in my OP, probably b/c swollen lymph nodes weren't listed as one of the noted side effects by the nurse quoted in the OP text box.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
What was the consequence of the swollen node?
And what constitutes severely swollen? For reference, 1 cm is roughly the cutoff for pathologic lymphadenopathy, but people get swollen nodes all the time, and they usually resolve uneventfully.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Fortunately, no consequences (so far, that I know of). I never saw it. He said it was like half a golf ball near his arm pit on the vaccinated arm side. He and his wife freaked out over it for the first couple days until it started to calm down before ultimately going away. I don't know if he sought any medical attention for it. We discussed it months after.
LawFitz
Footballguy
Did any of you that voted up this post actually read the Russian source sites listed in this story? And you guys refuse to read anything I/we post from a source you don't (or don't want to) recognize?
Anyone who upvoted this post just outed him/herself as a one-way highway, if you also at one point or another refused to read sources posted in these forums that didn't agree with your stance(s).
I read and consider as much as I can from all sides. Right, left, fringe, center. I don't dismiss possible Russian Covid/vax (and/other) disinfo, but this link's links are who's who of who's that.
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
Lol "Russian disinformation"
I got the Pfizer. No negative side effects. However, I don't think the majority of people that are hesitant are worried about the immediate side effects. They are worried about long term illnesses like cancer, and heart problems.
I got the Pfizer. No negative side effects. However, I don't think the majority of people that are hesitant are worried about the immediate side effects. They are worried about long term illnesses like cancer, and heart problems.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
I didn't comment on that post, but the source is Reuters - do you not consider them reputable? And no way in hell I'd look up the Russian sites directly.
Many of the links you post are far less mainstream, with sensational language, odd side stories, advertising and/or pop-ups, which immediately "out" them as something to avoid IMO. YouTube and most other videos are also on my no-fly list.
I prefer direct links to journal articles, but even then I check the publication's impact factor and other authors' background/affiliations to determine their credibility.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
I don't think most of them are worried at all. It's just an excuse for inaction.
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
No adverse reactions here but it apparently messed up my wife’s libido. The weird part is that’s a 20 year symptom and she just got the shot this year. I’m glad we finally figured it out though.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
OK, so what do you think the likelihood of cancer or long-term heart problems related to the vaccine?Punxsutawney Phil said:
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
Probably greater than me dying from COVID-19, especially after already having it.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
Doubtful. You can try to blame covid vaccinations for all “normal crap you’d die from” if covid never existed but vaccines work covid or otherwise.
as for me, my family, and staff and the docs who work with me: 20+ people vaccinated, sore arm and chills the evening of the second dose was the only reported side effect.
Doug B
Footballguy
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
Same here, except I don't know of anyone who even had that long of a reaction. Out of a sample of about 60 people, only a handful felt bad enough to even skip their usual activities the next day (school, work, etc.).
EDIT: Wanted to add my personal reaction to both Moderna shots:
Shot 1: Sore spot on deltoid, felt most acutely when raising my left arm. Otherwise, nada.
Shot 2: Soreness in same place, but much milder. Was good for nearly 24 hours (until about noon the day after), then felt tired and like I needed a nap until bedtime. Still muddled through a full day's activities, including chauffeuring my wife and daughter on a few-hours long shopping trip.
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The Football Freak
Footballguy
I just wanted to add that the second dose of Moderna did kick my butt for one night with chills and aches. It was all within the normal side effects, not an adverse reaction, but I just wanted to put it out there for full disclosure. Since other people are doing the same, and maybe the OP wanted that info, too.
the moops
Footballguy
My second of Pfizer knocked me out for almost 72 hours. Got the shot at 1PM or so on a Thursday - we had family visiting so I may have had a few too many beers that night. By 1AM fever, chills, aches all were present. Wasn't until Sunday afternoon that I was back to normal
I'm fully vaccinated and encourage people to be vaccinated.
To answer the question, a young man I know well in his early 20s wound up in ER with a reaction to the vaccine. Zero health issues prior. He is fine now.
To answer the question, a young man I know well in his early 20s wound up in ER with a reaction to the vaccine. Zero health issues prior. He is fine now.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Suffered because the entire Covid pandemic was politicized? Sure. But I don't agree about the vaccines. The same people that haven't chosen to get the vaccine would likely have made the same choice regardless of what Trump, Biden, Fauci, or anyone said.timschochet said:
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
They pulled that Chantax drug after FDA approval because it can cause cancer. Same with Zantac. Not to mention all of the environmental contaminants out there. I guess you can just chalk up everyone that dies of cancer and heart disease as "normal crap you'd die from".
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Stealthycat
Footballguy
the moops said:
I know of zero people who have been helped by the vaccine - anecdotal and all
Every single person I know vaccinated I 100% believe would have survived covid anyway so ....
timschochet
Footballguy
That could very well be. I might have argued that point more a few months ago but now I’m not so sure you’re wrong.
As to your first point: those on the right are likely to believe that the pandemic itself was politicized. Those on the left are more likely to believe that the resistance to masks and vaccines was politicized. We’re not going to agree on this. Where we possibly CAN agree is that our already existing deep political divide made a bad situation worse, and threatens our ability to survive future calamities.
supermike80
Footballguy
Can you please, for the board, stop judging and sharing your judgments about others? No one cares. Juat post man. Please. You are not the board judge and it would be wonderful if you realized that and just...posted .timschochet said:
Please.
(HULK)
(Smash)
For additional context, those 'news' sites are just one piece of a multifront information assault that has been waged by Russia for several years. There are myriads of Facebook groups, Twitter bots, etc etc out there pumping disinfo into the US conversation hard-core. I literally just picked the first link that covered it from a very non-partisan source (if Reuters is biased, I'm not aware of it). Feel free to research yourself down that rabbit hole if you like, there is plenty there.LawFitz said:
timschochet
Footballguy
If I feel complimentary of somebody I’m going to express it. I think that’s part of “be excellent to one another.”
As for the rest of what you wrote: I’ll leave it to others reading my post and your response to it to decide who is actually trying to be the “board judge” here.
The Football Freak
Footballguy
Wow, that sucks. It was just one night for me, but the chills got so bad I couldn’t walk right for a couple hours. On the plus side, I’ve heard conjecture that this means you might have had a tough go with Covid, so you may have saved yourself from a lot more than 72 hours of suck. Or, it could be that you chose the wrong vax…
#ModernaRulesPfizerDrools
(HULK)
(Smash)
When I got the MMR booster as a 2 year old, I was paralyzed for 3 days before regaining the ability to move. My parents were pretty freaked out, I have no memory of this at all.
Apparently a low % of the time things go sideways with pretty much any and all vaccines. Taken on the whole though, and compared to the damage Covid has wrought, these vaccines are basically a miracle and being vaccinated is clearly overall safer. But I wouldn't be shocked to hear of some terrible reactions here and there. It's going to happen, but that doesn't change that it is still much safer to get it than to not.
Apparently a low % of the time things go sideways with pretty much any and all vaccines. Taken on the whole though, and compared to the damage Covid has wrought, these vaccines are basically a miracle and being vaccinated is clearly overall safer. But I wouldn't be shocked to hear of some terrible reactions here and there. It's going to happen, but that doesn't change that it is still much safer to get it than to not.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
For whatever reason (totally off topic I know), but this put the question in my mind of how much has The Pill affected women’s libidos? We know that it can have a negative effect on libido though it’s not often talked about. There’s a lot of joking about married women having low libidos, but what if a big part of that has been the fairly universal usage of The Pill?
yak651
Footballguy
Not harmed by the vax but led to diagnosis of cancer....Wife received the J&J shot, felt ill about 6 hours latter. Was sick the next 48 hours so went to an urgent care after calling Teledoc. They gave her fluids and did some bloodwork. Bloodwork came back with high protein levels in blood and said kidneys were at a failing state. Wanted her to go to ER but said she could go home after she felt much better after getting 2L of saline. Went to a kidney specialist, more test and then he sent her to an oncologist. He diagnosed her with Multiple Myeloma, a form of bone marrow cancer. Kidney doc said if she didn't find out this way she most likely would've had kidney failure before this was found out (she was healthy before this with no issues). Anyhow currently going through treatment for this cancer, reading about it most are diagnosed after breaking bones (sometimes femur and back) while doing everyday task so glad it was caught early.
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
I have posted elsewhere...10 days following my 2nd Modena jab I developed migraines. Basically spent 5 months taking Motrin. Usually one tablet, but for a few months it took two tablets especially at night. Developed periodic ringing in ears probably related to motrin. The migraines have finally pretty much disappeared with slight headaches still occurring occasionally, and haven't required any Motrin for about 5 weeks. Putting a few granules of Himalayan salt under my tongue would alleviate the headaches within minutes for about 20-60 minutes 
. I never had problems with headaches before. Not interested in additional boosters if we are going to need them every 6 months.
ETA: But I don't know anyone else that had any side effects besides a sore/red arm for a few days.
. I never had problems with headaches before. Not interested in additional boosters if we are going to need them every 6 months. ETA: But I don't know anyone else that had any side effects besides a sore/red arm for a few days.
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dozer
Footballguy
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
Ok, so now we are playing the straw man argument. The two things you mentioned are NOT VACCINES. Many medications get FDA approval only to be overturned because of many unsuspected side effects that didn't come up in clinical trial. Hell, I know of a Contact Lens solution that got FDA approval but ended up causing fungal infections in patients eyes. You know what? STILL NOT A VACCINE!
I will stipulate that I was concerned with the vaccine before the data came in and before the roll out. Not because of the politics of it, but because anything rushed to market could be problematic. My mind was changed when the Data came out as incredibly as it did. I can see if the best option we could come up with was what JNJ made: 60+ percent protective, 90+ percent avoiding hospitalization but with some side effects that could be life threatening. Thankfully both Pfizer and Modena were light years better than that. Now its just either peoples politics or narcissism (I know more than the so called experts) that keep them from the vaccine.
To boil it down to a final point about VACCINES: Let's assume that there is a link between certain vaccines and autism (there isn't but lets say there is). Is autism better than POLIO?
The General
Footballguy
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
I think your math is off, especially considering immunity is unlikely to last forever. But I’m glad your employer thought otherwise.
glvsav37
Footballguy
A teacher in my wife's school died of a heart related issue days after her 2nd shot. While I cant connect it to the vax, she was an otherwise healthy 38 year old woman and left behind a husband and 2 young kids. I dont know the family well enough to know what was ultimately decided as cause of death, but it happened right after her 2nd dose.
We also have a female friend who has had (so i've been told) periods of overly heavy mensural cycles followed by long stretches of none at all.
I also know a ton of people who are vax'ed and have no issues so far
We also have a female friend who has had (so i've been told) periods of overly heavy mensural cycles followed by long stretches of none at all.
I also know a ton of people who are vax'ed and have no issues so far
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
FTR, both recalls were due to theoretical cancer risk, related to possible/probable carcinogenic ingredients. To my knowledge, no vaccine has ever been linked to increased cancer risk or chronic heart disease (carditis, when it occurs, is acute and usually self-limited).
But nothing is completely risk free. I’ll contend for most people, the lifetime risk from covid far exceeds that incurred from the vaccine.
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Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
I got my second Pfizer yesterday at 11:30. I fell asleep early and woke up at 11:30 pm sick. I was shivering worse than I did when I had covid, and could barley hold my phone. I probably should have taken a Tylenol at that time but I was so cold I just went and got back to bed. Slept like crap, tossing and turning, and sweating all night long. Still feeling some effects.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
that's a guess - nobody knows and its not someone I know or you know
I know people who've had covid, vaccinated people who've had covid and I think they'd all have lived had then not been vaxxed
remember, 85% of the USA hasn't had covid at all, only 15% or so and 99.8% of all of us have lived
the vast majority of covid deaths are over 55 years old - and IIRC 85% of covid deaths are obese
when a young healthy person gets the shot - I mean 99.99% chance they'd not going to get covid bad anyway - you can't say the vax really helped them
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
Do you believe in the hospitalization and death statistics among the vaccinated and unvaccinated?
Stealthycat
Footballguy
Chaz McNulty said:
I believe unhealthy people and elderly and compromised people who get covid virus are at risk of dying from the virus yes
Does a shot help them to just not get as sick? I don't know if I buy that or not to be honest ..... we have many vaccinated people getting covid right now, some tens of thousands and hundreds dying and that's with efforts to not track those people.
I've just known many family members who got the shot and then got covid to believe it helps not get covid .... because it didn't help that at all. Did it help them not to be as sick? nobody knows, again of the 45 million who've been known to be sick with covid, what % have died? Not a high % and its very very low in people under 50
a healthy 30 year old person in good shape can't get the shot and then claim it helped him not get covid- he very likely wasn't going to anyway and same person can't get covid and claim he just didn't get really sick because of the shot - very likely he wasn't going to get really sick anyway
I'm all for people getting the shot, get 2 or 4 or 6 of them if you like, drink a shot for breakfast .... I support you 100%
the moops
Footballguy
Stop being so lazy and read the thousands of articles like this
Vaccines Work: 97% Of COVID Deaths, 95% Of Hospitalizations And 94% Of Cases Are Among Unvaccinated Pennsylvanians
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