QB Aaron Rodgers, ? (2 Viewers)

[Chemical X]

rip the band aid and remove the cancer. guy was, is and remains a mental quack. is a hyper distraction and proves to be anything but a leader. his fingerprints are all over the hideous coaching staff and terrible personnel decisions. let him drift over to his dream job at HHS. he spoke of removing distractions, all while dabbling in politics and missing mandatory OTA, pretty much crippling saleh. take the 49mm hit cause you ain’t competing in 25 and go find your qb.

 

[Ray_T]

Kinda wonder if this might end up being a "forced" retirement. I don't see Rodgers ego allowing him to "compete" for a starting job, and I don't see any teams likely to just hand him a starting job. I also can't see Rodgers doing what Russell Wilson did last season and play for essentially the league minimum.

I do think he gets handed a starting job and even Russell Wilson would not have played on that contract if Denver was not paying him $37m.

that is the way these things seem to go now. in this case I dont think it is about the money. its about getting a rebuild started as soon as possible because they dont think this team can get it done.

but you never know. maybe if Rodgers agrees to restructure the contract, maybe they do keep him around. realistically I think its more likely they try to trade him to someone in need of a QB, and retain a certain amount of the salary. whether that works or not remains to be seen, but....if that doesnt happen, the buyout could be on the table. They also have the #7 overall pick.... unless nobody takes a QB early they likely need to move up in the draft to get a QB. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. either way, lots of moves are coming.

 

[menobrown]

maybe if Rodgers agrees to restructure the contract

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[Joe Bryant]

maybe if Rodgers agrees to restructure the contract

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Interesting.

I can see how a rookie Head Coach and rookie GM might prefer someone who won't challenge them.

 

[travdogg]

I'm asking this seriously, I'm not trying to be contrarian or a Rodgers hater for off field reasons, but why is Rodgers a better option than ANY of Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, or Russell Wilson?

All of them are younger, and don't come with as much baggage and its very arguable that Rodgers body is breaking down. All but Cousins had better rate stats this season, and all but Darnold did that with an inferior supporting cast.

Rodgers was 34th in completion percentage, 30th in yards per attempt, and 30th in aDOT, despite having one of the NFL's better 1-2 punches at WR once Adams got there.

 

[menobrown]

maybe if Rodgers agrees to restructure the contract

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Interesting.

I can see how a rookie Head Coach and rookie GM might prefer someone who won't challenge them.

I view it more was wanting to create their own culture and realizing that someone with such a known history of being stubborn, wanting it does his way while he goes to the beat of his own drum as running counter to this goal.

 

[Joe Bryant]

maybe if Rodgers agrees to restructure the contract

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Interesting.

I can see how a rookie Head Coach and rookie GM might prefer someone who won't challenge them.

I view it more was wanting to create their own culture and realizing that someone with such a known history of being stubborn, wanting it does his way while he goes to the beat of his own drum as running counter to this goal.

Cool. There's more than one way to view it.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I'm asking this seriously, I'm not trying to be contrarian or a Rodgers hater for off field reasons, but why is Rodgers a better option than ANY of Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, or Russell Wilson?

All of them are younger, and don't come with as much baggage and its very arguable that Rodgers body is breaking down. All but Cousins had better rate stats this season, and all but Darnold did that with an inferior supporting cast.

Rodgers was 34th in completion percentage, 30th in yards per attempt, and 30th in aDOT, despite having one of the NFL's better 1-2 punches at WR once Adams got there.

I think people would counter those stats with he was 8th in TDs and 8th in passing yards. And was back to back MVPs in 2020 and 2021 and was coming off a catastrophic injury last year. While finishing strong.

Plus a demonstrated track record of consistent excellence.

But for sure, there's a case to be made for those guys and youth. I'd guess most would agree with you the other guys are better options.

 

[Mitchie]

I'm asking this seriously, I'm not trying to be contrarian or a Rodgers hater for off field reasons, but why is Rodgers a better option than ANY of Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, or Russell Wilson?

All of them are younger, and don't come with as much baggage and its very arguable that Rodgers body is breaking down. All but Cousins had better rate stats this season, and all but Darnold did that with an inferior supporting cast.

Rodgers was 34th in completion percentage, 30th in yards per attempt, and 30th in aDOT, despite having one of the NFL's better 1-2 punches at WR once Adams got there.

I'm not really a Rodgers fan but think other than Darnold last year from a football standpoint he was better than those guys last year, maybe comparable season to Russ. But you're right other than Darnold had the best weapons. Now add in the non football stuff, he may be more trouble than worth. The Jets seem to think so. On one hand there really aren't many spots for him. Ideally would be a team that was competitive and needing a QB that might elevate them to compete for a playoff run, and there aren't really any of those. Would a team like the Raiders want to bring him and generate excitement, but they were a 4 win team last year is there really a point to that? On the other hand it's a weak QB draft class and free agent options and some teams are going to rolling out a Minshew type as their starter. But the flip side of that is if your one of those teams seems like next year's draft class should be strong so you're throwing away your shot at a top pick next year.

 

[heckmanm]

Rodgers to Vegas and then demanding they bring Adams back there would be GOLD

 

[Joe Bryant]

Rodgers to Vegas and then demanding they bring Adams back there would be GOLD

I'd love to see him there. I'm sure he'd have lots of support from ownership and Tom Brady in bringing the weapons he feels comfortable with as that was Brady's style with Gronkowski.

 

[JohnnyU]

Rodgers to Vegas and then demanding they bring Adams back there would be GOLD

I'd love to see him there. I'm sure he'd have lots of support from ownership and Tom Brady in bringing the weapons he feels comfortable with as that was Brady's style with Gronkowski.

I believe he was being sarcastic

 

[Joe Bryant]

Rodgers to Vegas and then demanding they bring Adams back there would be GOLD

I'd love to see him there. I'm sure he'd have lots of support from ownership and Tom Brady in bringing the weapons he feels comfortable with as that was Brady's style with Gronkowski.

I believe he was being sarcastic

I would love to see him there. And I do think he'd have a ton of support in getting Adams there if he wanted him as that's how Brady operated too. Makes perfect sense to surround your most important player with the weapons he feels most comfortable with.

 

[JohnnyU]

Where will he end up is a great question. Just throwing a name out there but how about the Raiders.

Colts?

 

[heckmanm]

Rodgers to Vegas and then demanding they bring Adams back there would be GOLD

I'd love to see him there. I'm sure he'd have lots of support from ownership and Tom Brady in bringing the weapons he feels comfortable with as that was Brady's style with Gronkowski.

I believe he was being sarcastic

I would love to see him there. And I do think he'd have a ton of support in getting Adams there if he wanted him as that's how Brady operated too. Makes perfect sense to surround your most important player with the weapons he feels most comfortable with.

More just amused that he engineered a trade FROM the Raiders just a few months ago

 

[JohnnyU]

Rodgers to Vegas and then demanding they bring Adams back there would be GOLD

I'd love to see him there. I'm sure he'd have lots of support from ownership and Tom Brady in bringing the weapons he feels comfortable with as that was Brady's style with Gronkowski.

I believe he was being sarcastic

I would love to see him there. And I do think he'd have a ton of support in getting Adams there if he wanted him as that's how Brady operated too. Makes perfect sense to surround your most important player with the weapons he feels most comfortable with.

More just amused that he engineered a trade FROM the Raiders just a few months ago

I didn’t know he played for the Raiders

 

[heckmanm]

Rodgers to Vegas and then demanding they bring Adams back there would be GOLD

I'd love to see him there. I'm sure he'd have lots of support from ownership and Tom Brady in bringing the weapons he feels comfortable with as that was Brady's style with Gronkowski.

I believe he was being sarcastic

I would love to see him there. And I do think he'd have a ton of support in getting Adams there if he wanted him as that's how Brady operated too. Makes perfect sense to surround your most important player with the weapons he feels most comfortable with.

More just amused that he engineered a trade FROM the Raiders just a few months ago

I didn’t know he played for the Raiders

Talking about Adams.

 

[Ray_T]

I'm asking this seriously, I'm not trying to be contrarian or a Rodgers hater for off field reasons, but why is Rodgers a better option than ANY of Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, or Russell Wilson?

All of them are younger, and don't come with as much baggage and its very arguable that Rodgers body is breaking down. All but Cousins had better rate stats this season, and all but Darnold did that with an inferior supporting cast.

Rodgers was 34th in completion percentage, 30th in yards per attempt, and 30th in aDOT, despite having one of the NFL's better 1-2 punches at WR once Adams got there.

I think people would counter those stats with he was 8th in TDs and 8th in passing yards. And was back to back MVPs in 2020 and 2021 and was coming off a catastrophic injury last year. While finishing strong.

Plus a demonstrated track record of consistent excellence.

But for sure, there's a case to be made for those guys and youth. I'd guess most would agree with you the other guys are better options.

to be clear, he wasnt that bad. almost 4000 yards passing 28 TD 11 INT. and he had to shake some rust off at the start of the season due to the amount of time off he has had due to injury.

I think there is another gear for him but the question is whether hes now too old. Certainly he can play. but some parts of this team that I thought were going to be good this year, were definitely not that good. How much of that is Rodgers fault is debatable, but normally when your QB puts up those kind of stats along with that TD-INT ratio your team does better than this. But I'd argue they may have had one of the toughest schedules to start the year in the NFL.

This is not an excuse. but I do think I see enough to think hes not done. but I also recognize that he is at a stage in his career where he needs to fit into the culture of the team they put him in with and I dont think he really meshed with the culture they were trying for in New York.

 

[Tau837]

Kinda wonder if this might end up being a "forced" retirement. I don't see Rodgers ego allowing him to "compete" for a starting job, and I don't see any teams likely to just hand him a starting job. I also can't see Rodgers doing what Russell Wilson did last season and play for essentially the league minimum.

Wilson didn't play for the league minimum. He played for $39M. It just so happened that Pittsburgh only paid $1.21M of that total, and Denver paid the rest. I'm not sure if/how that bears on Rodgers' situation, just saying.

 

[Tau837]

I'm asking this seriously, I'm not trying to be contrarian or a Rodgers hater for off field reasons, but why is Rodgers a better option than ANY of Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, or Russell Wilson?

All of them are younger, and don't come with as much baggage and its very arguable that Rodgers body is breaking down. All but Cousins had better rate stats this season, and all but Darnold did that with an inferior supporting cast.

Rodgers was 34th in completion percentage, 30th in yards per attempt, and 30th in aDOT, despite having one of the NFL's better 1-2 punches at WR once Adams got there.

I think people would counter those stats with he was 8th in TDs and 8th in passing yards. And was back to back MVPs in 2020 and 2021 and was coming off a catastrophic injury last year. While finishing strong.

Plus a demonstrated track record of consistent excellence.

But for sure, there's a case to be made for those guys and youth. I'd guess most would agree with you the other guys are better options.

"Finishing strong" is debatable. Best way to frame that is to say he finished strong in the last 5 games, which ignores that he was not good at all in the 3 games prior to that sample and also ignores that he was terrible in 2 of the final 5 games, with the other 3 games being against MIA x2 and JAX.

I also think "demonstrated track record of consistent excellence" doesn't carry much weight when (a) the QB in question is 40 and (b) that demonstrated track record ended in 2021... 4 seasons ago.

 

[travdogg]

Kinda wonder if this might end up being a "forced" retirement. I don't see Rodgers ego allowing him to "compete" for a starting job, and I don't see any teams likely to just hand him a starting job. I also can't see Rodgers doing what Russell Wilson did last season and play for essentially the league minimum.

Wilson didn't play for the league minimum. He played for $39M. It just so happened that Pittsburgh only paid $1.21M of that total, and Denver paid the rest. I'm not sure if/how that bears on Rodgers' situation, just saying.

I thought I said it that way, but I must have deleted it by mistake while I was editing. I don't think Rodgers would do the same if he were released by NY was my point. I don't think his ego would let him.

I'm asking this seriously, I'm not trying to be contrarian or a Rodgers hater for off field reasons, but why is Rodgers a better option than ANY of Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, or Russell Wilson?

All of them are younger, and don't come with as much baggage and its very arguable that Rodgers body is breaking down. All but Cousins had better rate stats this season, and all but Darnold did that with an inferior supporting cast.

Rodgers was 34th in completion percentage, 30th in yards per attempt, and 30th in aDOT, despite having one of the NFL's better 1-2 punches at WR once Adams got there.

I think people would counter those stats with he was 8th in TDs and 8th in passing yards. And was back to back MVPs in 2020 and 2021 and was coming off a catastrophic injury last year. While finishing strong.

Plus a demonstrated track record of consistent excellence.

But for sure, there's a case to be made for those guys and youth. I'd guess most would agree with you the other guys are better options.

"Finishing strong" is debatable. Best way to frame that is to say he finished strong in the last 5 games, which ignores that he was not good at all in the 3 games prior to that sample and also ignores that he was terrible in 2 of the final 5 games, with the other 3 games being against MIA x2 and JAX.

I also think "demonstrated track record of consistent excellence" doesn't carry much weight when (a) the QB in question is 40 and (b) that demonstrated track record ended in 2021... 4 seasons ago.

I agree with this. I'd also say the 8th in TD passes and 8th in passing yards rings a little hollow when he wasn't 2nd in pass attempts, which is why I used rate stats, as they are a more valuable stat.

 

[brewer]

I'm having a hard time envisioning a situation where you would want to deal with this guy at this point of his career.

You would have to have a coach and GM who would stand up to him and explain that they won't be bringing all of his old buddies along for the ride.

You would have to think you are a QB away this year or next(let's face it, Brady is the only guy to play well into his mid 40s).

And you then would have to have the cap room to make a deal that he would consider playing for.

He's not the Aaron of old, maybe he catches lightning in a bottle one more time but to me it's more likely that this is the end of the road.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I'm asking this seriously, I'm not trying to be contrarian or a Rodgers hater for off field reasons, but why is Rodgers a better option than ANY of Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, or Russell Wilson?

All of them are younger, and don't come with as much baggage and its very arguable that Rodgers body is breaking down. All but Cousins had better rate stats this season, and all but Darnold did that with an inferior supporting cast.

Rodgers was 34th in completion percentage, 30th in yards per attempt, and 30th in aDOT, despite having one of the NFL's better 1-2 punches at WR once Adams got there.

I think people would counter those stats with he was 8th in TDs and 8th in passing yards. And was back to back MVPs in 2020 and 2021 and was coming off a catastrophic injury last year. While finishing strong.

Plus a demonstrated track record of consistent excellence.

But for sure, there's a case to be made for those guys and youth. I'd guess most would agree with you the other guys are better options.

"Finishing strong" is debatable. Best way to frame that is to say he finished strong in the last 5 games, which ignores that he was not good at all in the 3 games prior to that sample and also ignores that he was terrible in 2 of the final 5 games, with the other 3 games being against MIA x2 and JAX.

I also think "demonstrated track record of consistent excellence" doesn't carry much weight when (a) the QB in question is 40 and (b) that demonstrated track record ended in 2021... 4 seasons ago.

As I said, it's all about how much weight people put on things. Good and bad. Obviously, you put way less weight on MVP track record than I do but different opinions are what makes the game fun. As I said, I'd guess I'm in the minority here. No worries there.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I'm asking this seriously, I'm not trying to be contrarian or a Rodgers hater for off field reasons, but why is Rodgers a better option than ANY of Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, or Russell Wilson?

All of them are younger, and don't come with as much baggage and its very arguable that Rodgers body is breaking down. All but Cousins had better rate stats this season, and all but Darnold did that with an inferior supporting cast.

Rodgers was 34th in completion percentage, 30th in yards per attempt, and 30th in aDOT, despite having one of the NFL's better 1-2 punches at WR once Adams got there.

I think people would counter those stats with he was 8th in TDs and 8th in passing yards. And was back to back MVPs in 2020 and 2021 and was coming off a catastrophic injury last year. While finishing strong.

Plus a demonstrated track record of consistent excellence.

But for sure, there's a case to be made for those guys and youth. I'd guess most would agree with you the other guys are better options.

to be clear, he wasnt that bad. almost 4000 yards passing 28 TD 11 INT. and he had to shake some rust off at the start of the season due to the amount of time off he has had due to injury.

I think there is another gear for him but the question is whether hes now too old. Certainly he can play. but some parts of this team that I thought were going to be good this year, were definitely not that good. How much of that is Rodgers fault is debatable, but normally when your QB puts up those kind of stats along with that TD-INT ratio your team does better than this. But I'd argue they may have had one of the toughest schedules to start the year in the NFL.

This is not an excuse. but I do think I see enough to think hes not done. but I also recognize that he is at a stage in his career where he needs to fit into the culture of the team they put him in with and I dont think he really meshed with the culture they were trying for in New York.

Agreed. Will be interesting to see how it goes from here. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him retire. Depends on what opportunities are open to him and definitely needs to be a good fit.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Rodgers to Vegas and then demanding they bring Adams back there would be GOLD

We beefin

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Rodgers to Vegas and then demanding they bring Adams back there would be GOLD

I'd love to see him there. I'm sure he'd have lots of support from ownership and Tom Brady in bringing the weapons he feels comfortable with as that was Brady's style with Gronkowski.

You’re on the list too

 

[Chemical X]

is there any reason not to gamble on a guy like wentz for 1 year? wentz and taylor and try to find a franchise qb. darnold will never make it back to ny.

 

[rockaction]

is there any reason not to gamble on a guy like wentz for 1 year? wentz and taylor and try to find a franchise qb. darnold will never make it back to ny.

You're in the Rodgers thread, Chem X. Jets thread is the other way. But to your point: Wentz seems to rub everybody the wrong way wherever he goes, from Philly to Indy to Washington.

 

[Gatorman]

Jets have to take a long look in the mirror much like Miami and even New England and say "until we can run with the Bills, we are rebuilding"

Dolphins look to be having a "run it back" season bc they have no choice with Tua
Pats have a QB and Vrabel so they are the most likely "make noise" team in the AFCE
Jets, if they are moving away from AAron are in full rebuild. Draft around the QB position and bring in a retread and see what happens. Regroup and hope the NFL pulls up some Arch Manning magic for you in 2026

 

[Mitchie]

Jets have to take a long look in the mirror much like Miami and even New England and say "until we can run with the Bills, we are rebuilding"

Dolphins look to be having a "run it back" season bc they have no choice with Tua
Pats have a QB and Vrabel so they are the most likely "make noise" team in the AFCE
Jets, if they are moving away from AAron are in full rebuild. Draft around the QB position and bring in a retread and see what happens. Regroup and hope the NFL pulls up some Arch Manning magic for you in 2026

This seems like would be a smart strategy for a number of teams which is why I'm not sure Rodgers finds a home.

 

[Ray_T]

Kinda wonder if this might end up being a "forced" retirement. I don't see Rodgers ego allowing him to "compete" for a starting job, and I don't see any teams likely to just hand him a starting job. I also can't see Rodgers doing what Russell Wilson did last season and play for essentially the league minimum.

Wilson didn't play for the league minimum. He played for $39M. It just so happened that Pittsburgh only paid $1.21M of that total, and Denver paid the rest. I'm not sure if/how that bears on Rodgers' situation, just saying.

I thought I said it that way, but I must have deleted it by mistake while I was editing. I don't think Rodgers would do the same if he were released by NY was my point. I don't think his ego would let him.

I'm asking this seriously, I'm not trying to be contrarian or a Rodgers hater for off field reasons, but why is Rodgers a better option than ANY of Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, or Russell Wilson?

All of them are younger, and don't come with as much baggage and its very arguable that Rodgers body is breaking down. All but Cousins had better rate stats this season, and all but Darnold did that with an inferior supporting cast.

Rodgers was 34th in completion percentage, 30th in yards per attempt, and 30th in aDOT, despite having one of the NFL's better 1-2 punches at WR once Adams got there.

I think people would counter those stats with he was 8th in TDs and 8th in passing yards. And was back to back MVPs in 2020 and 2021 and was coming off a catastrophic injury last year. While finishing strong.

Plus a demonstrated track record of consistent excellence.

But for sure, there's a case to be made for those guys and youth. I'd guess most would agree with you the other guys are better options.

"Finishing strong" is debatable. Best way to frame that is to say he finished strong in the last 5 games, which ignores that he was not good at all in the 3 games prior to that sample and also ignores that he was terrible in 2 of the final 5 games, with the other 3 games being against MIA x2 and JAX.

I also think "demonstrated track record of consistent excellence" doesn't carry much weight when (a) the QB in question is 40 and (b) that demonstrated track record ended in 2021... 4 seasons ago.

I agree with this. I'd also say the 8th in TD passes and 8th in passing yards rings a little hollow when he wasn't 2nd in pass attempts, which is why I used rate stats, as they are a more valuable stat.

well, there were a lot of one score losses too.

a handful of games they allowed to get away from them. but more importantly it felt like the defense was not as good as they were last year.

Jets have to take a long look in the mirror much like Miami and even New England and say "until we can run with the Bills, we are rebuilding"

Dolphins look to be having a "run it back" season bc they have no choice with Tua
Pats have a QB and Vrabel so they are the most likely "make noise" team in the AFCE
Jets, if they are moving away from AAron are in full rebuild. Draft around the QB position and bring in a retread and see what happens. Regroup and hope the NFL pulls up some Arch Manning magic for you in 2026

This seems like would be a smart strategy for a number of teams which is why I'm not sure Rodgers finds a home.

someone is likely willing to roll the dice. but I dont think they are willing to pay what rodgers is making. If he gets traded, the Jets will need to eat a significant portion of his salary to make this happen. but I'd argue this is better than the buyout option which could easily come to pass.

 

[Mitchie]

Kinda wonder if this might end up being a "forced" retirement. I don't see Rodgers ego allowing him to "compete" for a starting job, and I don't see any teams likely to just hand him a starting job. I also can't see Rodgers doing what Russell Wilson did last season and play for essentially the league minimum.

Wilson didn't play for the league minimum. He played for $39M. It just so happened that Pittsburgh only paid $1.21M of that total, and Denver paid the rest. I'm not sure if/how that bears on Rodgers' situation, just saying.

I thought I said it that way, but I must have deleted it by mistake while I was editing. I don't think Rodgers would do the same if he were released by NY was my point. I don't think his ego would let him.

I'm asking this seriously, I'm not trying to be contrarian or a Rodgers hater for off field reasons, but why is Rodgers a better option than ANY of Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, or Russell Wilson?

All of them are younger, and don't come with as much baggage and its very arguable that Rodgers body is breaking down. All but Cousins had better rate stats this season, and all but Darnold did that with an inferior supporting cast.

Rodgers was 34th in completion percentage, 30th in yards per attempt, and 30th in aDOT, despite having one of the NFL's better 1-2 punches at WR once Adams got there.

I think people would counter those stats with he was 8th in TDs and 8th in passing yards. And was back to back MVPs in 2020 and 2021 and was coming off a catastrophic injury last year. While finishing strong.

Plus a demonstrated track record of consistent excellence.

But for sure, there's a case to be made for those guys and youth. I'd guess most would agree with you the other guys are better options.

"Finishing strong" is debatable. Best way to frame that is to say he finished strong in the last 5 games, which ignores that he was not good at all in the 3 games prior to that sample and also ignores that he was terrible in 2 of the final 5 games, with the other 3 games being against MIA x2 and JAX.

I also think "demonstrated track record of consistent excellence" doesn't carry much weight when (a) the QB in question is 40 and (b) that demonstrated track record ended in 2021... 4 seasons ago.

I agree with this. I'd also say the 8th in TD passes and 8th in passing yards rings a little hollow when he wasn't 2nd in pass attempts, which is why I used rate stats, as they are a more valuable stat.

well, there were a lot of one score losses too.

a handful of games they allowed to get away from them. but more importantly it felt like the defense was not as good as they were last year.

Jets have to take a long look in the mirror much like Miami and even New England and say "until we can run with the Bills, we are rebuilding"

Dolphins look to be having a "run it back" season bc they have no choice with Tua
Pats have a QB and Vrabel so they are the most likely "make noise" team in the AFCE
Jets, if they are moving away from AAron are in full rebuild. Draft around the QB position and bring in a retread and see what happens. Regroup and hope the NFL pulls up some Arch Manning magic for you in 2026

This seems like would be a smart strategy for a number of teams which is why I'm not sure Rodgers finds a home.

someone is likely willing to roll the dice. but I dont think they are willing to pay what rodgers is making. If he gets traded, the Jets will need to eat a significant portion of his salary to make this happen. but I'd argue this is better than the buyout option which could easily come to pass.

maybe so, just don't see the point, I mean his skills are declining none of the teams that need a QB are going to be that competitive next year and doubt he plays 2 more seasons and if he does will be 2 years older.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Rodgers to Vegas and then demanding they bring Adams back there would be GOLD

I'd love to see him there. I'm sure he'd have lots of support from ownership and Tom Brady in bringing the weapons he feels comfortable with as that was Brady's style with Gronkowski.

You’re on the list too

Who do you think will be Las Vegas QB, GB? How good are you with that?

 

[Ray_T]

Kinda wonder if this might end up being a "forced" retirement. I don't see Rodgers ego allowing him to "compete" for a starting job, and I don't see any teams likely to just hand him a starting job. I also can't see Rodgers doing what Russell Wilson did last season and play for essentially the league minimum.

Wilson didn't play for the league minimum. He played for $39M. It just so happened that Pittsburgh only paid $1.21M of that total, and Denver paid the rest. I'm not sure if/how that bears on Rodgers' situation, just saying.

I thought I said it that way, but I must have deleted it by mistake while I was editing. I don't think Rodgers would do the same if he were released by NY was my point. I don't think his ego would let him.

I'm asking this seriously, I'm not trying to be contrarian or a Rodgers hater for off field reasons, but why is Rodgers a better option than ANY of Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, or Russell Wilson?

All of them are younger, and don't come with as much baggage and its very arguable that Rodgers body is breaking down. All but Cousins had better rate stats this season, and all but Darnold did that with an inferior supporting cast.

Rodgers was 34th in completion percentage, 30th in yards per attempt, and 30th in aDOT, despite having one of the NFL's better 1-2 punches at WR once Adams got there.

I think people would counter those stats with he was 8th in TDs and 8th in passing yards. And was back to back MVPs in 2020 and 2021 and was coming off a catastrophic injury last year. While finishing strong.

Plus a demonstrated track record of consistent excellence.

But for sure, there's a case to be made for those guys and youth. I'd guess most would agree with you the other guys are better options.

"Finishing strong" is debatable. Best way to frame that is to say he finished strong in the last 5 games, which ignores that he was not good at all in the 3 games prior to that sample and also ignores that he was terrible in 2 of the final 5 games, with the other 3 games being against MIA x2 and JAX.

I also think "demonstrated track record of consistent excellence" doesn't carry much weight when (a) the QB in question is 40 and (b) that demonstrated track record ended in 2021... 4 seasons ago.

I agree with this. I'd also say the 8th in TD passes and 8th in passing yards rings a little hollow when he wasn't 2nd in pass attempts, which is why I used rate stats, as they are a more valuable stat.

well, there were a lot of one score losses too.

a handful of games they allowed to get away from them. but more importantly it felt like the defense was not as good as they were last year.

Jets have to take a long look in the mirror much like Miami and even New England and say "until we can run with the Bills, we are rebuilding"

Dolphins look to be having a "run it back" season bc they have no choice with Tua
Pats have a QB and Vrabel so they are the most likely "make noise" team in the AFCE
Jets, if they are moving away from AAron are in full rebuild. Draft around the QB position and bring in a retread and see what happens. Regroup and hope the NFL pulls up some Arch Manning magic for you in 2026

This seems like would be a smart strategy for a number of teams which is why I'm not sure Rodgers finds a home.

someone is likely willing to roll the dice. but I dont think they are willing to pay what rodgers is making. If he gets traded, the Jets will need to eat a significant portion of his salary to make this happen. but I'd argue this is better than the buyout option which could easily come to pass.

maybe so, just don't see the point, I mean his skills are declining none of the teams that need a QB are going to be that competitive next year and doubt he plays 2 more seasons and if he does will be 2 years older.

well, with this crop of QB in the draft, it may be a case where having them sit behind a guy like Rodgers for a year would be beneficial.

but that leads me to ask whether Rodgers would want to mentor a young QB. It is possible that hes not willing. At that point, hes a bridge QB and nothing more.

so whether he gets signed likely depends on what Rodgers is willing to do in terms of training his replacement. To that end, it is possible that he decides retirement is a better option.

but if he really wants to play, he will drop himself into one of these situations and will mentor whatever young QB the teams have.

only time will tell. I think the big question is..... what is Rodgers willing to do to stay on the field

 

[IHEARTFF]

Guys, what would we ever even talk about if Rodgers and Kelce both retired? /s

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Rodgers to Vegas and then demanding they bring Adams back there would be GOLD

I'd love to see him there. I'm sure he'd have lots of support from ownership and Tom Brady in bringing the weapons he feels comfortable with as that was Brady's style with Gronkowski.

You’re on the list too

Who do you think will be Las Vegas QB, GB? How good are you with that?

I have no idea. It’s such a huge hole on the roster. I’m not in love with any of the vets or those associated with Kelly. Like DTR. Ooof.

Last season it on record for wanting fields and Russ. Russ because of the price. I don’t like the guy. I’d take fields. We’ll see.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

I'm asking this seriously, I'm not trying to be contrarian or a Rodgers hater for off field reasons, but why is Rodgers a better option than ANY of Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, or Russell Wilson?

All of them are younger, and don't come with as much baggage and its very arguable that Rodgers body is breaking down. All but Cousins had better rate stats this season, and all but Darnold did that with an inferior supporting cast.

Rodgers was 34th in completion percentage, 30th in yards per attempt, and 30th in aDOT, despite having one of the NFL's better 1-2 punches at WR once Adams got there.

I think people would counter those stats with he was 8th in TDs and 8th in passing yards. And was back to back MVPs in 2020 and 2021 and was coming off a catastrophic injury last year. While finishing strong.

Plus a demonstrated track record of consistent excellence.

But for sure, there's a case to be made for those guys and youth. I'd guess most would agree with you the other guys are better options.

I don't think the bolded means anything in 2025 when the person is on the wrong side of 40. Unless your name is Tom Brady, your abilities can decline rapidly once you get to this age range.

 

[Joe Bryant]

I'm asking this seriously, I'm not trying to be contrarian or a Rodgers hater for off field reasons, but why is Rodgers a better option than ANY of Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold, Justin Fields, or Russell Wilson?

All of them are younger, and don't come with as much baggage and its very arguable that Rodgers body is breaking down. All but Cousins had better rate stats this season, and all but Darnold did that with an inferior supporting cast.

Rodgers was 34th in completion percentage, 30th in yards per attempt, and 30th in aDOT, despite having one of the NFL's better 1-2 punches at WR once Adams got there.

I think people would counter those stats with he was 8th in TDs and 8th in passing yards. And was back to back MVPs in 2020 and 2021 and was coming off a catastrophic injury last year. While finishing strong.

Plus a demonstrated track record of consistent excellence.

But for sure, there's a case to be made for those guys and youth. I'd guess most would agree with you the other guys are better options.

I don't think the bolded means anything in 2025 when the person is on the wrong side of 40. Unless your name is Tom Brady, your abilities can decline rapidly once you get to this age range.

Understood. We'll just disagree there as I do think it means something. But we'll of course see. That's what makes it fun.

 

[sm8680]

AR signed a 2-year $75 million dollar contract with the Jet's. I honestly don't see anyone signing him or Russell Wilson. AR is 41 years old.

Top 10 older than mummy dust QB's

• George Blanda - 48 years old (was also a kicker)
• John Nesser - 45 years old
• Steve DeBerg - 45 years old
• Tom Brady - 45 years old
• Vinny Testaverde - 44 years old
• Warren Moon - 44 years old
• Doug Flutie - 43 years old
• Earl Morrall - 42 years old
• Drew Brees - 42 years old
• Brett Favre - 41 years old

Tom Brady won his last Super Bowl at age 43 with a stacked team. Is there really a team like Brady's Bucs that are a QB away from winning the Super Bowl? There's nothing inspiring here other than age. Father time always wins.

I'll be honest I've never taken a liking to AR probably due to the fact at one point he was estranged from his family(Parents, brother).

 

[Joe Bryant]

AR signed a 2-year $75 million dollar contract with the Jet's. I honestly don't see anyone signing him or Russell Wilson. AR is 41 years old.

Top 10 older than mummy dust QB's

• George Blanda - 48 years old (was also a kicker)
• John Nesser - 45 years old
• Steve DeBerg - 45 years old
• Tom Brady - 45 years old
• Vinny Testaverde - 44 years old
• Warren Moon - 44 years old
• Doug Flutie - 43 years old
• Earl Morrall - 42 years old
• Drew Brees - 42 years old
• Brett Favre - 41 years old

Tom Brady won his last Super Bowl at age 43 with a stacked team. Is there really a team like Brady's Bucs that are a QB away from winning the Super Bowl? There's nothing inspiring here other than age. Father time always wins.

I'll be honest I've never taken a liking to AR probably due to the fact at one point he was estranged from his family(Parents, brother).

Yes. this will be super interesting. And I don't truly know the physical condition he's in. Brady was obviously hyper effective when he was older than Rodgers but some of that is situation as you say.

Hopefully we get some clarity on it soon.

 

[sm8680]

AR signed a 2-year $75 million dollar contract with the Jet's. I honestly don't see anyone signing him or Russell Wilson. AR is 41 years old.

Top 10 older than mummy dust QB's

• George Blanda - 48 years old (was also a kicker)
• John Nesser - 45 years old
• Steve DeBerg - 45 years old
• Tom Brady - 45 years old
• Vinny Testaverde - 44 years old
• Warren Moon - 44 years old
• Doug Flutie - 43 years old
• Earl Morrall - 42 years old
• Drew Brees - 42 years old
• Brett Favre - 41 years old

Tom Brady won his last Super Bowl at age 43 with a stacked team. Is there really a team like Brady's Bucs that are a QB away from winning the Super Bowl? There's nothing inspiring here other than age. Father time always wins.

I'll be honest I've never taken a liking to AR probably due to the fact at one point he was estranged from his family(Parents, brother).

Yes. this will be super interesting. And I don't truly know the physical condition he's in. Brady was obviously hyper effective when he was older than Rodgers but some of that is situation as you say.

Hopefully we get some clarity on it soon.

Joe good points. I look at Tom Brady as the outlier. Alot of times the players don't know when to hang it up. If we want to see older players in the NFL there should be an NFL Geriatrics flag football team. Kind of like the Senior's tour in Golf. But if your current QB is nearing this list, it's not a good thing. IMHO

 

[travdogg]

AR signed a 2-year $75 million dollar contract with the Jet's. I honestly don't see anyone signing him or Russell Wilson. AR is 41 years old.

Top 10 older than mummy dust QB's

• George Blanda - 48 years old (was also a kicker)
• John Nesser - 45 years old
• Steve DeBerg - 45 years old
• Tom Brady - 45 years old
• Vinny Testaverde - 44 years old
• Warren Moon - 44 years old
• Doug Flutie - 43 years old
• Earl Morrall - 42 years old
• Drew Brees - 42 years old
• Brett Favre - 41 years old

Tom Brady won his last Super Bowl at age 43 with a stacked team. Is there really a team like Brady's Bucs that are a QB away from winning the Super Bowl? There's nothing inspiring here other than age. Father time always wins.

I'll be honest I've never taken a liking to AR probably due to the fact at one point he was estranged from his family(Parents, brother).

I wouldn't hold being estranged from his family against him. A lot of people's families suck.

I think there is likely a bigger market for Wilson that Rodgers. He's a few years younger, and did just lead a team to the playoffs. Also has less (though not zero) baggage.

I will say, that among the recent QBs, all of Brady, Brees, and Favre were playing better than Rodgers at 40. I always felt like Favre could/should have played 1 more year for Minnesota (not to mention it may have saved them the wasted Ponder pick) and Brees and Brady were still top-5 guys when they retired, let alone at 41.

 

[sm8680]

AR signed a 2-year $75 million dollar contract with the Jet's. I honestly don't see anyone signing him or Russell Wilson. AR is 41 years old.

Top 10 older than mummy dust QB's

• George Blanda - 48 years old (was also a kicker)
• John Nesser - 45 years old
• Steve DeBerg - 45 years old
• Tom Brady - 45 years old
• Vinny Testaverde - 44 years old
• Warren Moon - 44 years old
• Doug Flutie - 43 years old
• Earl Morrall - 42 years old
• Drew Brees - 42 years old
• Brett Favre - 41 years old

Tom Brady won his last Super Bowl at age 43 with a stacked team. Is there really a team like Brady's Bucs that are a QB away from winning the Super Bowl? There's nothing inspiring here other than age. Father time always wins.

I'll be honest I've never taken a liking to AR probably due to the fact at one point he was estranged from his family(Parents, brother).

I wouldn't hold being estranged from his family against him. A lot of people's families suck.

I think there is likely a bigger market for Wilson that Rodgers. He's a few years younger, and did just lead a team to the playoffs. Also has less (though not zero) baggage.

I will say, that among the recent QBs, all of Brady, Brees, and Favre were playing better than Rodgers at 40. I always felt like Favre could/should have played 1 more year for Minnesota (not to mention it may have saved them the wasted Ponder pick) and Brees and Brady were still top-5 guys when they retired, let alone at 41.

Really good points. Maybe I should have stated something like this list sounds like Frank Sinatra song My Way.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Jets official Twitter:

@nyjets​

We have informed Aaron Rodgers that we will be moving in a different direction at quarterback.

This was known last week, but for me a bit interesting that it's phrased as a unilateral decision by the Jets without any sort of "mutual agreement" language we might expect in this situation. The tweet was accompanied by a professional 'well wishes' message and a separate similar message from Woody Johnson.

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I wonder how AR feels about this. I doubt he really wanted back in NY, but it seems he may have forced the team's hand rather than reaching a release settlement. Of course there is a ton of $$ at stake in this so I don't blame him in any respect. I suppose they discussed a settlement of some sort and he wasn't willing to accept whatever offer they made. This is the kind of thing which Rodgers has used as a motivator in the past, to great success. It will be an interesting situation to watch.

 

[GreenNGold]

Jets announce plan to keep losing, but without Aaron Rodgers

 

[Faust]

Jets moving on from QB Aaron Rodgers: Four potential landing spots for four-time MVP

 

[pinkstapler]

Jets moving on from QB Aaron Rodgers: Four potential landing spots for four-time MVP

Maybe it's just because my bar as a fan has been lowered so much in recent years, but looking at all potential situations for the Steelers at QB next year I would not mind signing Rodgers for a reasonable price for one/two years and drafting Jaxson Dart in the 2nd round. At least it leaves hope and potential on the table for 2025 instead of running it back with Russ or handing the reins to Fields. Those two options will likely have me turning their game to redzone by half time again.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Rodgers to Vegas and then demanding they bring Adams back there would be GOLD

I'd love to see him there. I'm sure he'd have lots of support from ownership and Tom Brady in bringing the weapons he feels comfortable with as that was Brady's style with Gronkowski.

You’re on the list too

Who do you think will be Las Vegas QB, GB? How good are you with that?

Hope nobody minds if I jump in. I expect Pete Carroll to trade down in the Draft and start loading the Raiders up with draft picks this year and next year to overturn as much of the roster as he can while infusing young talent. I also think this is a perfect season for Carroll to find his next Russ Wilson in the draft. I'm not saying a Wilson clone but someone that is good enough in the 2nd or 3rd round they can roll with for the next 2-3 years on a rookie deal while they retool the roster in the image Brady wants it to look like.

Just my .02 but I see a rookie that is not one of the top 2 QB names being their starter in '25, perhaps Milroe from Alabama and they could even trade back up into the late 1st to grab him.
Makes a lot of sense with a guy like Carrol coming into the building. I expect them to get much better in the trenches before they would bring in a free agent QB.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Hope nobody minds if I jump in.

Dude. Every opinion is just valid as anyone's!

 

[fatness]

Hope nobody minds if I jump in.

Dude. Every opinion is just valid as anyone's!

In my opinion your mom dresses you funny.