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QB Cam Ward, TEN (1 Viewer)
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Cam was not good today. Not good.
The offensive play calls were worst ever type and the blocking was terrible.
Pollard got every touch the first drive then pretty much crickets til the fourth.
One of the best screen RBs in the league, Spears didn't get any I don't think.
Dopey screens to chig and Dike that go nowhere and aren't blocked well.
Coaches did not do what they said they would, how the light sorta went on in the fourth Q last week and they'd build on that.
The WRs are not getting open. Well Van did a few times.
The middle is ripe for the taking every game and they don't use it until the fourth Q. Chig and Gunnar got some work late and that opened up Ayo to be the complimentary WR he is and they finally went back to Pollard who looked fine then too.
Ridley was out but how's he been that that's a big issue?
I don't see that they have a choice but to go to a Delanie Gates Coates Tony G offense.
Oliver was going to tough it out and return but didn't do he's probably back. He needs to play a good amount like mandatory. He trained as Ridley's backup all off-season and they need a dawg right now.
Ayo was pedestrian and needs to feed off Gunnar or Oliver and make big boy catches again. He is codependent complimentary for sure. Every game same thing w him.
Dike and Lockett need to take their weak hand stuff to the bench or man up. Tell them to get pass interference penalties if need be. They are absolutely manhandled and it's just garbage. I feel for Cam. What's he to do when he sees that?
Cam needs to throw in the dirt again. I'd rather that than dumb decisions and forced things. Make a statement. I see you and none of you are open. There it's at your feet. He did it all camp and preseason and some in weeks 1 and 2.
Coach has no choice but to change at WR or he'll be fired. Vrabel is coming to town. The world just saw his top pick stink. He has to have a standard of get open or else. (The wimpiness just kills me- have you ever played sports?) I don't care if Spears and Pollard play WR or a CB does. Get open or sit. This is ridiculous.
People are probably correctly saying Cam should have run often. They weren't open, ya gotta run kid.
I saw a Levis Willis rookie Eli Manning vibe today that really made me angry. Do not break this kid. Sit him or sub WRs til it clicks. There's no attitude to this offense other than chumps. Trade for a big back for all I care. Get an attitude. I'm terrified of him becoming Carr or Couch. We finally have a dude with tons of talent. Do not wreck him!
The offensive play calls were worst ever type and the blocking was terrible.
Pollard got every touch the first drive then pretty much crickets til the fourth.
One of the best screen RBs in the league, Spears didn't get any I don't think.
Dopey screens to chig and Dike that go nowhere and aren't blocked well.
Coaches did not do what they said they would, how the light sorta went on in the fourth Q last week and they'd build on that.
The WRs are not getting open. Well Van did a few times.
The middle is ripe for the taking every game and they don't use it until the fourth Q. Chig and Gunnar got some work late and that opened up Ayo to be the complimentary WR he is and they finally went back to Pollard who looked fine then too.
Ridley was out but how's he been that that's a big issue?
I don't see that they have a choice but to go to a Delanie Gates Coates Tony G offense.
Oliver was going to tough it out and return but didn't do he's probably back. He needs to play a good amount like mandatory. He trained as Ridley's backup all off-season and they need a dawg right now.
Ayo was pedestrian and needs to feed off Gunnar or Oliver and make big boy catches again. He is codependent complimentary for sure. Every game same thing w him.
Dike and Lockett need to take their weak hand stuff to the bench or man up. Tell them to get pass interference penalties if need be. They are absolutely manhandled and it's just garbage. I feel for Cam. What's he to do when he sees that?
Cam needs to throw in the dirt again. I'd rather that than dumb decisions and forced things. Make a statement. I see you and none of you are open. There it's at your feet. He did it all camp and preseason and some in weeks 1 and 2.
Coach has no choice but to change at WR or he'll be fired. Vrabel is coming to town. The world just saw his top pick stink. He has to have a standard of get open or else. (The wimpiness just kills me- have you ever played sports?) I don't care if Spears and Pollard play WR or a CB does. Get open or sit. This is ridiculous.
People are probably correctly saying Cam should have run often. They weren't open, ya gotta run kid.
I saw a Levis Willis rookie Eli Manning vibe today that really made me angry. Do not break this kid. Sit him or sub WRs til it clicks. There's no attitude to this offense other than chumps. Trade for a big back for all I care. Get an attitude. I'm terrified of him becoming Carr or Couch. We finally have a dude with tons of talent. Do not wreck him!
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He hasn't shown anything through six games. They'd better upgrade his weapons this offseason.
The Frankman
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@Uncle Leo better runningbacks? Sure. Better weapons overall? NOPE.
Again, the read I got goign into the draft is of Dart/Sanders/Ward, Ward had the best chance to be elite but he could also be a bust. Sanders had the highest floor, but had a very low ceiling as a QB (think more athletic Teddy Bridgewater/Chad Pennington). Dart had qualities where he could be a really good QB, but he had comps to Brock Purdy/early Josh Allen in terms of heroball/bad INTs in college.
McCoy said next to nothing at his presser. We waited a day to be told they'll see what Cam does well and do that.
Albert Breer was on Jared Stillman minutes ago. It's a good get for the mad dog Jim rome type Nashville guy.
Jared went on a rant about how the Jets and Browns and Giants and losing teams just throw the next guy in there and hope for the best meanwhile winning teams sit them. He added Darnold and Jones success elsewhere and ....that's what Jared does.
Breer said not enough gets said about how important the environment is for the rookie QB. More than anything, the Titans need to address that. Right now there's obviously been significant change.
Before that he said (but it kinda works as a followup)
McCoy has had pocket passers and mobile quarterbacks and even the option QB in Tim Tebow. When he says he'll adjust to suit the QB, he really does have that track record.
Earlier today Jared played a clip of Callahan saying they watched Cam in college and they incorporated some of that but felt the Titans already had a lot of those plays so essentially their tape review told them to call these plays and do these things. Jared and his guest said they certainly haven't done that except maybe that fourth quarter in Arizona and a drive last week. So it's been a lot of repeats from last week in doing what Callahan said they would. McCoy's presser kind of emphasizes that rather than says we'll go a different way. Bottom line is it's not that complicated since they are so absolutely awful- Cam likes the TE. He panics to the TE. He makes big plays to the TE. They weren't using the TE but for an H-back fullback role.
Ill make another post
Albert Breer was on Jared Stillman minutes ago. It's a good get for the mad dog Jim rome type Nashville guy.
Jared went on a rant about how the Jets and Browns and Giants and losing teams just throw the next guy in there and hope for the best meanwhile winning teams sit them. He added Darnold and Jones success elsewhere and ....that's what Jared does.
Breer said not enough gets said about how important the environment is for the rookie QB. More than anything, the Titans need to address that. Right now there's obviously been significant change.
Before that he said (but it kinda works as a followup)
McCoy has had pocket passers and mobile quarterbacks and even the option QB in Tim Tebow. When he says he'll adjust to suit the QB, he really does have that track record.
Earlier today Jared played a clip of Callahan saying they watched Cam in college and they incorporated some of that but felt the Titans already had a lot of those plays so essentially their tape review told them to call these plays and do these things. Jared and his guest said they certainly haven't done that except maybe that fourth quarter in Arizona and a drive last week. So it's been a lot of repeats from last week in doing what Callahan said they would. McCoy's presser kind of emphasizes that rather than says we'll go a different way. Bottom line is it's not that complicated since they are so absolutely awful- Cam likes the TE. He panics to the TE. He makes big plays to the TE. They weren't using the TE but for an H-back fullback role.
Ill make another post
There has been a ton of talk today about what is wrong and it always comes back to the line (not much can be changed) and the wide receivers.
Restrepo has a sorta cult following
Oliver has a small following but he's Ridley's replacement and likely to play WR this week. How much is debatable from like ten snaps or most of them.
Prosche has come up too
Today has been regurgitating everything all offseason.
What's a bad coach do? What's a good coach do? What will McCoy instill right away and what changes will be eventual?
I think the reliable accountable rarely ever make a mistake 5-7th WRs look quite rosy right now.
Teams do not bench so many and alter the depth chart that much is an extremely fair sentiment
BUT
Remember Elic and Dike didn't earn their spots. They were pushed into them. Elic was probably 4th and gonna be a key sub and starter was a surprise. Dike was down the list and struggling mostly til he made a big play and that happened most days of practice.
Oliver was starting with Lockett and Ridley. Prosche first and then Restrepo, they often looked better than Lockett. Restrepo had his struggles and was pretty firm as the 8th WR and not likely to make the team which he didn't. He's on the PS.
Week six- do they go back in time? They can't. Well they can't not. It's been a recurring debate all day.
Cam needs reliable WRs is said by all- who though and how to get there?
It's possible there's dramatic change this week or it's trickled in and slow. That Callahan did not go with his camp starters really is a big monkey wrench here that idk that we've seen much of for any team. Ridley (oh so likely) out offers a perspective too. He's the WR1 and the leader. Everything speaks to change and guys stepping up. But how?
I would say Titans WRa should sit for FF (if any) but it'll be a nice day for DFS and Gunnar looks the most promising for predictions.
Restrepo has a sorta cult following
Oliver has a small following but he's Ridley's replacement and likely to play WR this week. How much is debatable from like ten snaps or most of them.
Prosche has come up too
Today has been regurgitating everything all offseason.
What's a bad coach do? What's a good coach do? What will McCoy instill right away and what changes will be eventual?
I think the reliable accountable rarely ever make a mistake 5-7th WRs look quite rosy right now.
Teams do not bench so many and alter the depth chart that much is an extremely fair sentiment
BUT
Remember Elic and Dike didn't earn their spots. They were pushed into them. Elic was probably 4th and gonna be a key sub and starter was a surprise. Dike was down the list and struggling mostly til he made a big play and that happened most days of practice.
Oliver was starting with Lockett and Ridley. Prosche first and then Restrepo, they often looked better than Lockett. Restrepo had his struggles and was pretty firm as the 8th WR and not likely to make the team which he didn't. He's on the PS.
Week six- do they go back in time? They can't. Well they can't not. It's been a recurring debate all day.
Cam needs reliable WRs is said by all- who though and how to get there?
It's possible there's dramatic change this week or it's trickled in and slow. That Callahan did not go with his camp starters really is a big monkey wrench here that idk that we've seen much of for any team. Ridley (oh so likely) out offers a perspective too. He's the WR1 and the leader. Everything speaks to change and guys stepping up. But how?
I would say Titans WRa should sit for FF (if any) but it'll be a nice day for DFS and Gunnar looks the most promising for predictions.
Kevin Dyson was McCoy's WR in college when McCoy was a QB and he says the screens are all but gone. Occasional per normal but they've kept in touch and followed each other and he's certain McCoy will get rid of that and Cam's gonna be throwing.
That's probably 70 percent of the passes to Dike and 50-60 to Chig. So now what?
That's probably 70 percent of the passes to Dike and 50-60 to Chig. So now what?
As I've said, McCoy had an Antonio Gates offense and mentioned the TE usage.
His WRs were big and they'd throw it high or deep to Malcolm Floyd. That's very much like Cam in the summer. That suits Elic and Oliver very well.
Woodhead was his back used a good amount and maybe Spears in that role.
All these plays are in and have been used some. Not expecting a major change so much as trying to guess his we'll do what works.
His "players play, let's not talk about the plays" quote needed to be said. The offense did stink. The play calls were awful. None of the players seemed to say I'm gonna do well anyway and make this work.
His WRs were big and they'd throw it high or deep to Malcolm Floyd. That's very much like Cam in the summer. That suits Elic and Oliver very well.
Woodhead was his back used a good amount and maybe Spears in that role.
All these plays are in and have been used some. Not expecting a major change so much as trying to guess his we'll do what works.
His "players play, let's not talk about the plays" quote needed to be said. The offense did stink. The play calls were awful. None of the players seemed to say I'm gonna do well anyway and make this work.
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