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QB Jordan Love, GB (1 Viewer)

Wonder if they start off bad, if they keep him out all year??
what? no. no chance of that at all.

Even if you're 0-5, and your 200 million dollar QB is ok enough to play, you don't sit him out an extra 13 weeks lol.
By all accounts, MCL is tricky.. Say he is out 6 weeks and they start out 0-6, why risk a bigger injury by rushing him back? They probably aren't making the playoffs at that point.

I think you are going to start to see QB be treated by teams like big paid pitchers are in baseball. The owners have too much of a investment to throw them out in meaningless times IMO.
And for the record, I am not saying they do this, but just bringing the notion forward that depending on a bad start, it's possible they could, especially if his injury has a set back.
A lot of good points @karl.Racki

Maybe the Packers' owners realize they have an overpaid and overrated QB and are fine with throwing him to the lions.
So you think…after one game…they now regret paying him?

No
More than 1/2 of his games have been brutal. Mix that with how he ended last season and you have a very mediocre (at best) QB who is the highest paid player in the history of the NFL. So yes, after one game, they regret this,

No, this is just wrong. Almost objectively as far as it can be.
 
"He was and may still be. But he knows the offense at least to some degree. This does not mean the team wont bring in someone. Especially if they think Willis can't get the job done. ..."
My understanding is that Willis wasn't afforded a lot of experience at the collegiate level & what he did gain was against lesser competition. Nor were his progressions beyond half-field type reads. So, the development of his footwork late in the play not likely ideal. Purportedly, very raw when he came out. But make no mistake, he definitely has the physical tools of a dual threat QB! The main question may be whether or not LaFleur has had a chance to figure out how to best utilize Willis' skill set?

In my leagues 22 is currently the fewest number of QBs rostered. In 2QB or SF leagues, if Willis is named the starter by Tuesday, I would think he'd be a top add. Totally agree, Willis may not be even remotely ready, which would seem odd. But if he's in their lineup next week, look out! lol
 
"He was and may still be. But he knows the offense at least to some degree. This does not mean the team wont bring in someone. Especially if they think Willis can't get the job done. ..."
My understanding is that Willis wasn't afforded a lot of experience at the collegiate level & what he did gain was against lesser competition. Nor were his progressions beyond half-field type reads. So, the development of his footwork late in the play not likely ideal. Purportedly, very raw when he came out. But make no mistake, he definitely has the physical tools of a dual threat QB! The main question may be whether or not LaFleur has had a chance to figure out how to best utilize Willis' skill set?

In my leagues 22 is currently the fewest number of QBs rostered. In 2QB or SF leagues, if Willis is named the starter by Tuesday, I would think he'd be a top add. Totally agree, Willis may not be even remotely ready, which would seem odd. But if he's in their lineup next week, look out! lol
If he’s in their lineup next week, stock up on Colts’ IDPs for the week!
 
Wonder if they start off bad, if they keep him out all year??
what? no. no chance of that at all.

Even if you're 0-5, and your 200 million dollar QB is ok enough to play, you don't sit him out an extra 13 weeks lol.
By all accounts, MCL is tricky.. Say he is out 6 weeks and they start out 0-6, why risk a bigger injury by rushing him back? They probably aren't making the playoffs at that point.

I think you are going to start to see QB be treated by teams like big paid pitchers are in baseball. The owners have too much of a investment to throw them out in meaningless times IMO.
And for the record, I am not saying they do this, but just bringing the notion forward that depending on a bad start, it's possible they could, especially if his injury has a set back.
A lot of good points @karl.Racki

Maybe the Packers' owners realize they have an overpaid and overrated QB and are fine with throwing him to the lions.
Again, cards were 1-8 and brought kyler back. You don't sit a healthy qb for 17 weeks. The fans would go nuts for one thing.
agreed. you gotta give the fans something to cheer for.

but what you dont do is rush your franchise guy back before he is ready. Kyler Murray was solid upon his return. and he got to shake off the rust. He will be better for having had that experience this year I think
Yep. Not saying rush him back, my only point was there's 0% chance they're going to sit him out for the rest of the season from this. That's absolutely a ridiculous notion.

Agree completely. For one thing, Love is an incomplete, young QB with only one year of NFL starting experience. He’s far from a complete QB at this point and has flaws to work on. You want him out there learning and growing in real game time regardless of your record. If anything, if its a lost season then some of the pressure is off and he can take chances and make mistakes to learn from them.
 
Wonder if they start off bad, if they keep him out all year??
what? no. no chance of that at all.

Even if you're 0-5, and your 200 million dollar QB is ok enough to play, you don't sit him out an extra 13 weeks lol.
By all accounts, MCL is tricky.. Say he is out 6 weeks and they start out 0-6, why risk a bigger injury by rushing him back? They probably aren't making the playoffs at that point.

I think you are going to start to see QB be treated by teams like big paid pitchers are in baseball. The owners have too much of a investment to throw them out in meaningless times IMO.
And for the record, I am not saying they do this, but just bringing the notion forward that depending on a bad start, it's possible they could, especially if his injury has a set back.
A lot of good points @karl.Racki

Maybe the Packers' owners realize they have an overpaid and overrated QB and are fine with throwing him to the lions.
Again, cards were 1-8 and brought kyler back. You don't sit a healthy qb for 17 weeks. The fans would go nuts for one thing.
agreed. you gotta give the fans something to cheer for.

but what you dont do is rush your franchise guy back before he is ready. Kyler Murray was solid upon his return. and he got to shake off the rust. He will be better for having had that experience this year I think
Yep. Not saying rush him back, my only point was there's 0% chance they're going to sit him out for the rest of the season from this. That's absolutely a ridiculous notion.

Agree completely. For one thing, Love is an incomplete, young QB with only one year of NFL starting experience. He’s far from a complete QB at this point and has flaws to work on. You want him out there learning and growing in real game time regardless of your record. If anything, if its a lost season then some of the pressure is off and he can take chances and make mistakes to learn from them.
Just curious how others feel comparing Love and Stroud. Stroud has one year experience as a starting QB as well. Is he a young incomplete QB that has flaws to work on as well? Are they close to equal, or is one ahead of the other?
 
Wonder if they start off bad, if they keep him out all year??
what? no. no chance of that at all.

Even if you're 0-5, and your 200 million dollar QB is ok enough to play, you don't sit him out an extra 13 weeks lol.
By all accounts, MCL is tricky.. Say he is out 6 weeks and they start out 0-6, why risk a bigger injury by rushing him back? They probably aren't making the playoffs at that point.

I think you are going to start to see QB be treated by teams like big paid pitchers are in baseball. The owners have too much of a investment to throw them out in meaningless times IMO.
And for the record, I am not saying they do this, but just bringing the notion forward that depending on a bad start, it's possible they could, especially if his injury has a set back.
A lot of good points @karl.Racki

Maybe the Packers' owners realize they have an overpaid and overrated QB and are fine with throwing him to the lions.
Again, cards were 1-8 and brought kyler back. You don't sit a healthy qb for 17 weeks. The fans would go nuts for one thing.
agreed. you gotta give the fans something to cheer for.

but what you dont do is rush your franchise guy back before he is ready. Kyler Murray was solid upon his return. and he got to shake off the rust. He will be better for having had that experience this year I think
Yep. Not saying rush him back, my only point was there's 0% chance they're going to sit him out for the rest of the season from this. That's absolutely a ridiculous notion.

Agree completely. For one thing, Love is an incomplete, young QB with only one year of NFL starting experience. He’s far from a complete QB at this point and has flaws to work on. You want him out there learning and growing in real game time regardless of your record. If anything, if its a lost season then some of the pressure is off and he can take chances and make mistakes to learn from them.
Just curious how others feel comparing Love and Stroud. Stroud has one year experience as a starting QB as well. Is he a young incomplete QB that has flaws to work on as well? Are they close to equal, or is one ahead of the other?
@Birdie048 since you gave a 🤔 how do you compare Love and Stroud?
 
Are Love owners holding him to pickup a backup hoping he returns on the short end of the 3-6 week timeline or letting him go because he's a potential roster clogger during byeweeks on the long end?
I'm keeping him, but I have two ir spots too. Fortunately I also have Jayden Daniels (we drafted before his hype train went out of control and I got him at like qb 15) so I should be ok to wait a month.
 
Now reporting 3 weeks
NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reports Jordan Love (MCL sprain) is expected to miss “about three weeks.”
Per Rapoport, Love suffered an MCL sprain between grade one and grade two in the final seconds of Green Bay’s Week 1 loss to the Eagles. Now all eyes are on the Packers’ backup situation. Malik Willis, who the Packers traded for late in the summer, opened the season as Love’s backup. He took two snaps to end the game on Friday. His second rep was a game-ending sack on a failed hail mary play. An inability to handle pressure plagued Willis in Tennessee and appears to have followed him to Green Bay. Sean Clifford, on the other hand, was waived when the Packers cut down to their 53-man roster and then landed on the team’s practice squad. Neither option looks good and the Packers could ultimately land a free agent addition as their best bet.
 
Wonder if they start off bad, if they keep him out all year??
what? no. no chance of that at all.

Even if you're 0-5, and your 200 million dollar QB is ok enough to play, you don't sit him out an extra 13 weeks lol.
By all accounts, MCL is tricky.. Say he is out 6 weeks and they start out 0-6, why risk a bigger injury by rushing him back? They probably aren't making the playoffs at that point.

I think you are going to start to see QB be treated by teams like big paid pitchers are in baseball. The owners have too much of a investment to throw them out in meaningless times IMO.
And for the record, I am not saying they do this, but just bringing the notion forward that depending on a bad start, it's possible they could, especially if his injury has a set back.
A lot of good points @karl.Racki

Maybe the Packers' owners realize they have an overpaid and overrated QB and are fine with throwing him to the lions.
Again, cards were 1-8 and brought kyler back. You don't sit a healthy qb for 17 weeks. The fans would go nuts for one thing.
agreed. you gotta give the fans something to cheer for.

but what you dont do is rush your franchise guy back before he is ready. Kyler Murray was solid upon his return. and he got to shake off the rust. He will be better for having had that experience this year I think
Yep. Not saying rush him back, my only point was there's 0% chance they're going to sit him out for the rest of the season from this. That's absolutely a ridiculous notion.

Agree completely. For one thing, Love is an incomplete, young QB with only one year of NFL starting experience. He’s far from a complete QB at this point and has flaws to work on. You want him out there learning and growing in real game time regardless of your record. If anything, if its a lost season then some of the pressure is off and he can take chances and make mistakes to learn from them.
Just curious how others feel comparing Love and Stroud. Stroud has one year experience as a starting QB as well. Is he a young incomplete QB that has flaws to work on as well? Are they close to equal, or is one ahead of the other?
@Birdie048 since you gave a 🤔 how do you compare Love and Stroud?
Fair call out… I do see the strong similarities between CJ Stroud & J Love as having only “demonstrated 1year” as NFL QB. Both are set up to succeed unlike most QB situations. They are still developing and growing. They have skills to improve and mechanisms to train as they mature. This is to say what worked yesterday for them based on athleticism may have to be updated to a “natural instinct”. It is not a stagnant position and must be adoptive to the game as it changes.
Side note: Aaron Rodgers should have left GB sooner / GB FO should have had more cojones and made the move when it was clear the future was on the bench.

I am a Love owner. And I was shopping him. I just see him as he is at his peak. Not sure he will go any higher than QB10 range
 
Wonder if they start off bad, if they keep him out all year??
what? no. no chance of that at all.

Even if you're 0-5, and your 200 million dollar QB is ok enough to play, you don't sit him out an extra 13 weeks lol.
By all accounts, MCL is tricky.. Say he is out 6 weeks and they start out 0-6, why risk a bigger injury by rushing him back? They probably aren't making the playoffs at that point.

I think you are going to start to see QB be treated by teams like big paid pitchers are in baseball. The owners have too much of a investment to throw them out in meaningless times IMO.
And for the record, I am not saying they do this, but just bringing the notion forward that depending on a bad start, it's possible they could, especially if his injury has a set back.
A lot of good points @karl.Racki

Maybe the Packers' owners realize they have an overpaid and overrated QB and are fine with throwing him to the lions.
Again, cards were 1-8 and brought kyler back. You don't sit a healthy qb for 17 weeks. The fans would go nuts for one thing.
agreed. you gotta give the fans something to cheer for.

but what you dont do is rush your franchise guy back before he is ready. Kyler Murray was solid upon his return. and he got to shake off the rust. He will be better for having had that experience this year I think
Yep. Not saying rush him back, my only point was there's 0% chance they're going to sit him out for the rest of the season from this. That's absolutely a ridiculous notion.

Agree completely. For one thing, Love is an incomplete, young QB with only one year of NFL starting experience. He’s far from a complete QB at this point and has flaws to work on. You want him out there learning and growing in real game time regardless of your record. If anything, if its a lost season then some of the pressure is off and he can take chances and make mistakes to learn from them.
Just curious how others feel comparing Love and Stroud. Stroud has one year experience as a starting QB as well. Is he a young incomplete QB that has flaws to work on as well? Are they close to equal, or is one ahead of the other?
@Birdie048 since you gave a 🤔 how do you compare Love and Stroud?
Fair call out… I do see the strong similarities between CJ Stroud & J Love as having only “demonstrated 1year” as NFL QB. Both are set up to succeed unlike most QB situations. They are still developing and growing. They have skills to improve and mechanisms to train as they mature. This is to say what worked yesterday for them based on athleticism may have to be updated to a “natural instinct”. It is not a stagnant position and must be adoptive to the game as it changes.
Side note: Aaron Rodgers should have left GB sooner / GB FO should have had more cojones and made the move when it was clear the future was on the bench.

I am a Love owner. And I was shopping him. I just see him as he is at his peak. Not sure he will go any higher than QB10 range
Thanks for that post. I see a LOT of Love ascension, as well as Stroud. I like both of them.
 
Wonder if they start off bad, if they keep him out all year??
what? no. no chance of that at all.

Even if you're 0-5, and your 200 million dollar QB is ok enough to play, you don't sit him out an extra 13 weeks lol.
By all accounts, MCL is tricky.. Say he is out 6 weeks and they start out 0-6, why risk a bigger injury by rushing him back? They probably aren't making the playoffs at that point.

I think you are going to start to see QB be treated by teams like big paid pitchers are in baseball. The owners have too much of a investment to throw them out in meaningless times IMO.
And for the record, I am not saying they do this, but just bringing the notion forward that depending on a bad start, it's possible they could, especially if his injury has a set back.
A lot of good points @karl.Racki

Maybe the Packers' owners realize they have an overpaid and overrated QB and are fine with throwing him to the lions.
Again, cards were 1-8 and brought kyler back. You don't sit a healthy qb for 17 weeks. The fans would go nuts for one thing.
agreed. you gotta give the fans something to cheer for.

but what you dont do is rush your franchise guy back before he is ready. Kyler Murray was solid upon his return. and he got to shake off the rust. He will be better for having had that experience this year I think
Yep. Not saying rush him back, my only point was there's 0% chance they're going to sit him out for the rest of the season from this. That's absolutely a ridiculous notion.

Agree completely. For one thing, Love is an incomplete, young QB with only one year of NFL starting experience. He’s far from a complete QB at this point and has flaws to work on. You want him out there learning and growing in real game time regardless of your record. If anything, if its a lost season then some of the pressure is off and he can take chances and make mistakes to learn from them.
Just curious how others feel comparing Love and Stroud. Stroud has one year experience as a starting QB as well. Is he a young incomplete QB that has flaws to work on as well? Are they close to equal, or is one ahead of the other?
@Birdie048 since you gave a 🤔 how do you compare Love and Stroud?
There’s no great way to compare them. Love played in 38 games in college and has started 19 games as a pro. But he’s been with GB practicing every week for three years. Stroud started 25 games in college and 15 in the pros. I would expect both of them still have a lot to learn and would improve with more experience.
 
Now reporting 3 weeks
NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reports Jordan Love (MCL sprain) is expected to miss “about three weeks.”
Per Rapoport, Love suffered an MCL sprain between grade one and grade two in the final seconds of Green Bay’s Week 1 loss to the Eagles. Now all eyes are on the Packers’ backup situation. Malik Willis, who the Packers traded for late in the summer, opened the season as Love’s backup. He took two snaps to end the game on Friday. His second rep was a game-ending sack on a failed hail mary play. An inability to handle pressure plagued Willis in Tennessee and appears to have followed him to Green Bay. Sean Clifford, on the other hand, was waived when the Packers cut down to their 53-man roster and then landed on the team’s practice squad. Neither option looks good and the Packers could ultimately land a free agent addition as their best bet.
This is the news we all are looking for in the post currently. Thanks HSG!
 
When he’s healthy - he plays. They won’t risk him, but when he’s ready he’s back out there. No reason to shut a healthy franchise QB down.

I drafted Geno and he has good matchups weeks 3-5. Don’t love him next week @NE so will make a one week pickup for that start.
What constitutes a "franchise QB"? If you have 7 good games in 5 years are you a franchise QB?
Oh c’mon. I understand you are bitter but there are 25+ teams who would love to have Love as their franchise QB
 
Wonder if they start off bad, if they keep him out all year??
what? no. no chance of that at all.

Even if you're 0-5, and your 200 million dollar QB is ok enough to play, you don't sit him out an extra 13 weeks lol.
By all accounts, MCL is tricky.. Say he is out 6 weeks and they start out 0-6, why risk a bigger injury by rushing him back? They probably aren't making the playoffs at that point.

I think you are going to start to see QB be treated by teams like big paid pitchers are in baseball. The owners have too much of a investment to throw them out in meaningless times IMO.
And for the record, I am not saying they do this, but just bringing the notion forward that depending on a bad start, it's possible they could, especially if his injury has a set back.
A lot of good points @karl.Racki

Maybe the Packers' owners realize they have an overpaid and overrated QB and are fine with throwing him to the lions.
Again, cards were 1-8 and brought kyler back. You don't sit a healthy qb for 17 weeks. The fans would go nuts for one thing.
agreed. you gotta give the fans something to cheer for.

but what you dont do is rush your franchise guy back before he is ready. Kyler Murray was solid upon his return. and he got to shake off the rust. He will be better for having had that experience this year I think
Yep. Not saying rush him back, my only point was there's 0% chance they're going to sit him out for the rest of the season from this. That's absolutely a ridiculous notion.

Agree completely. For one thing, Love is an incomplete, young QB with only one year of NFL starting experience. He’s far from a complete QB at this point and has flaws to work on. You want him out there learning and growing in real game time regardless of your record. If anything, if its a lost season then some of the pressure is off and he can take chances and make mistakes to learn from them.
Just curious how others feel comparing Love and Stroud. Stroud has one year experience as a starting QB as well. Is he a young incomplete QB that has flaws to work on as well? Are they close to equal, or is one ahead of the other?

Others have answered but as a Texans fan definitely think Stroud has lots to learn still.
 
Packers' LaFleur: Door is 'Pretty Open' for Jordan Love to Play vs. Colts Amid Injury

This is coach speak for. "We don't have a competent backup QB. If Love misses any significant time we could miss the playoffs. So, we're looking for a doctor to clear him to play."

Now, this is the crap that pisses me off. Yes, he's your franchise QB. Yes, you've committed 10s of millions of dollars a year to him. No, you didn't think you needed a backup QB for this season. Now, LaFlaeur thinks his *** is more important than Love's knee and long term health.

How about you let your star QB recover and shut the @#$% up?
 
Settle down Beavis, did you actually watch the presser or are you trying to troll?

It was readily apparent if you watched the presser that he wasn't going to play this weekend and probably several weeks.

But hey, you do you and fly off the handle before anything is officially announced.
 
Wonder if they start off bad, if they keep him out all year??
what? no. no chance of that at all.

Even if you're 0-5, and your 200 million dollar QB is ok enough to play, you don't sit him out an extra 13 weeks lol.
By all accounts, MCL is tricky.. Say he is out 6 weeks and they start out 0-6, why risk a bigger injury by rushing him back? They probably aren't making the playoffs at that point.

I think you are going to start to see QB be treated by teams like big paid pitchers are in baseball. The owners have too much of a investment to throw them out in meaningless times IMO.
And for the record, I am not saying they do this, but just bringing the notion forward that depending on a bad start, it's possible they could, especially if his injury has a set back.
A lot of good points @karl.Racki

Maybe the Packers' owners realize they have an overpaid and overrated QB and are fine with throwing him to the lions.
Again, cards were 1-8 and brought kyler back. You don't sit a healthy qb for 17 weeks. The fans would go nuts for one thing.
agreed. you gotta give the fans something to cheer for.

but what you dont do is rush your franchise guy back before he is ready. Kyler Murray was solid upon his return. and he got to shake off the rust. He will be better for having had that experience this year I think
Yep. Not saying rush him back, my only point was there's 0% chance they're going to sit him out for the rest of the season from this. That's absolutely a ridiculous notion.

Agree completely. For one thing, Love is an incomplete, young QB with only one year of NFL starting experience. He’s far from a complete QB at this point and has flaws to work on. You want him out there learning and growing in real game time regardless of your record. If anything, if its a lost season then some of the pressure is off and he can take chances and make mistakes to learn from them.
Just curious how others feel comparing Love and Stroud. Stroud has one year experience as a starting QB as well. Is he a young incomplete QB that has flaws to work on as well? Are they close to equal, or is one ahead of the other?

Others have answered but as a Texans fan definitely think Stroud has lots to learn still.
From a real football standpoint I would take Stroud 10 out of 10 times. People underplay how valuable it is to practice and train as a professional. The fact that Love has 3 additional years on Stroud and they put up comparable numbers, and both led their teams to the playoffs last year, I am taking Stroud. Plus Stroud is 3+ years younger. From a fantasy standpoint, I am still taking Stroud but by a closer margin. I think Love still puts up good fantasy games.
 

Green Bay Packers​

Player, Pos.InjuryWEDTHURSFRIGAME STATUS
Corey Ballentine, CBObliqueLPLPLP--
Kenny Clark, DLToeLPLPFP--
Edgerrin Cooper, LBKneeFPFPFP--
Josh Jacobs, RBBackLPLPLP--
MarShawn Lloyd, RBHamstringLPLPLPQuestionable
Jordan Love, QBKneeDNPDNPDNPQuestionable
Jayden Reed, WRCalf / Shin(Not Listed)(Not Listed)LPQuestionable
Quay Walker, LBGroin(Not Listed)LPLP--

Guess I'll be able to move him to IR at 12:30 p.m. when the game day inactives come out, eh.

:mad:
 

Green Bay Packers​

Player, Pos.InjuryWEDTHURSFRIGAME STATUS
Corey Ballentine, CBObliqueLPLPLP--
Kenny Clark, DLToeLPLPFP--
Edgerrin Cooper, LBKneeFPFPFP--
Josh Jacobs, RBBackLPLPLP--
MarShawn Lloyd, RBHamstringLPLPLPQuestionable
Jordan Love, QBKneeDNPDNPDNPQuestionable
Jayden Reed, WRCalf / Shin(Not Listed)(Not Listed)LPQuestionable
Quay Walker, LBGroin(Not Listed)LPLP--

Guess I'll be able to move him to IR at 12:30 p.m. when the game day inactives come out, eh.

:mad:
You didn't provide a time zone, 11:30 EDT or 10:30 CDT.
 

Green Bay Packers​

Player, Pos.InjuryWEDTHURSFRIGAME STATUS
Corey Ballentine, CBObliqueLPLPLP--
Kenny Clark, DLToeLPLPFP--
Edgerrin Cooper, LBKneeFPFPFP--
Josh Jacobs, RBBackLPLPLP--
MarShawn Lloyd, RBHamstringLPLPLPQuestionable
Jordan Love, QBKneeDNPDNPDNPQuestionable
Jayden Reed, WRCalf / Shin(Not Listed)(Not Listed)LPQuestionable
Quay Walker, LBGroin(Not Listed)LPLP--

Guess I'll be able to move him to IR at 12:30 p.m. when the game day inactives come out, eh.

:mad:
You didn't provide a time zone, 11:30 EDT or 10:30 CDT.

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Packers' LaFleur: Door is 'Pretty Open' for Jordan Love to Play vs. Colts Amid Injury

This is coach speak for. "We don't have a competent backup QB. If Love misses any significant time we could miss the playoffs. So, we're looking for a doctor to clear him to play."

Now, this is the crap that pisses me off. Yes, he's your franchise QB. Yes, you've committed 10s of millions of dollars a year to him. No, you didn't think you needed a backup QB for this season. Now, LaFlaeur thinks his *** is more important than Love's knee and long term health.

How about you let your star QB recover and shut the @#$% up?
Love isn't playing this week, full stop. He's obligated to participate in this silly gamesmanship.

Regarding backup QBs; yhere aren't 20 people in the entire world capable of playing quarterback in the NFL at an elite. There aren't 32 capable of playing at a competitive level.

Of the 90ish most capable people in the world to play NFL QB, Malik Willis is one of them.

The idea that the Packers could simply conjure one, who would be willing to be a backup QB, is somewhat fanciful.
 
Packers' LaFleur: Door is 'Pretty Open' for Jordan Love to Play vs. Colts Amid Injury

This is coach speak for. "We don't have a competent backup QB. If Love misses any significant time we could miss the playoffs. So, we're looking for a doctor to clear him to play."

Now, this is the crap that pisses me off. Yes, he's your franchise QB. Yes, you've committed 10s of millions of dollars a year to him. No, you didn't think you needed a backup QB for this season. Now, LaFlaeur thinks his *** is more important than Love's knee and long term health.

How about you let your star QB recover and shut the @#$% up?

lol user name checks out. This is some brain dead stuff.
 
Love isn't going to play. Period. What everyone seems to be glossing over is LaFleur said "if he is cleared to play". Packers medical team is notoriously conservative. So while technically true, LaFleur knows Love isn't gonna be cleared to play
 
Love isn't going to play. Period. What everyone seems to be glossing over is LaFleur said "if he is cleared to play". Packers medical team is notoriously conservative. So while technically true, LaFleur knows Love isn't gonna be cleared to play
If we just base it on the Pack’s medical staff, he might not play til week 10+.
 
Looks like he dodged a bullet.

4-5 weeks.
says 3-6 (I know its almost the same) but I'd keep him out all 6 and trot out Malik. If he blows then maybe rethink that but I rather not rush back my 220 mil QB
Oh he freaking blows man….they gotta sign a veteran.

Tannehill is out there and can hold it down till he gets back.
maybe so, but Tanehill doesnt know the offense.

its not reasonable to expect a QB to learn an offense in 1 week. even in 2.

Dobbs did it, but thats atypical. and likely he didnt learn the whole offense. he likely learned the base offense and a handful of special plays. and Dobbs main calling card is his ability to pick up an offense quickly. he has flaws, but this is one of his strengths. for that reason he will likely be a highly sought after backup for a long time
Tannehill probably could pick up a lot quickly.
Said it earlier. When Arthur took over he combined offenses from prior two OCs(Lafleur) and used verbiage from the prior offense (Lafleur) so...just the base, I think he could pick it up quick.
Lafleur wouldn't be much if he was still running that offense 💯 so gotta consider that too
 
Love isn't going to play. Period. What everyone seems to be glossing over is LaFleur said "if he is cleared to play". Packers medical team is notoriously conservative. So while technically true, LaFleur knows Love isn't gonna be cleared to play
I'm with you. I think they sit him at least a week. but probably two weeks.

though these injuries so much depends on the way it was injured. not all of these injuries can be treated the same. an injury in one section of the ligament may heal faster than an injury on a different section. but the important thing is that they dont put him at risk of re injury. The fact they are not putting him on IR is at least a bit of a comfort as i know the worst case scenario is likely not playing out in terms of healing time.
 
Love isn't going to play. Period. What everyone seems to be glossing over is LaFleur said "if he is cleared to play". Packers medical team is notoriously conservative. So while technically true, LaFleur knows Love isn't gonna be cleared to play
I'm with you. I think they sit him at least a week. but probably two weeks.

though these injuries so much depends on the way it was injured. not all of these injuries can be treated the same. an injury in one section of the ligament may heal faster than an injury on a different section. but the important thing is that they dont put him at risk of re injury. The fact they are not putting him on IR is at least a bit of a comfort as i know the worst case scenario is likely not playing out in terms of healing time.

Well that's the thing. You don't want to go 0-2. 0-3 even worse. At that point Jordan himself is probably telling doctor he feels fine.

They could always go on a run later on, but you don't want this to bleed out to a string of losses. I know it sounds crazy but somehow I think he might play. Some kind of Brett Favre Ironman knockoff.


It's a sprain, right? Give him some painkillers and go ballot. I don't understand what pretending he's going to play accomplishes. But we did just see it with CMC.
 
It's a sprain, right? Give him some painkillers and go ballot. I don't understand what pretending he's going to play accomplishes. But we did just see it with CMC.
this is exactly how you end up with a player with Chronic injuries.

putting him on the field shouldnt even be a question until we are sure hes at a point where he doesnt re injure it.

got a buddy who was a real good hockey player. likely headed to the NHL. hurt his ACL. came back early against what the doctor's recommendation was and hurt himself again.

got back to a point where he was almost rehabbed and then stupidly hurt himself again. dude was walking with a cane before he was 25. if hed have let himself heal properly the first time he could have potentially still had his NHL career. instead, hes even worst than a has been. hes a never was. a borderline cripple. that's what you get when you push the body too hard before its ready.

heal up. its only one season. dude is still young. got a long career ahead of him. This wont be his only shot at a superbowl if hes truly that talented.
 
I say Love’s time table to return is greatly influenced by if the Pack is 1-1 or 0-2. And also by how Willis looks this Sunday.
 
I say Love’s time table to return is greatly influenced by if the Pack is 1-1 or 0-2. And also by how Willis looks this Sunday.
Swelling.
It's all about swelling.
When a knee is injured it swells and when it's swollen, the risk of "a cartoon bomb blew up in my knee" is very high.

They can drain it but it'll come right back if he's moving around as players do.

If he wrecks his knee (doesn't matter really which ligament, all about same length) he's out a year and in 2025 we are having this very same discussion and adding in proprioception to the discussion too.

Love, the Packers, the docs, they're all just at the mercy of the swelling.

The swelling is possibly down next week so I agree somewhat with this post.

I agree if Willis does well or even if they win, they can let Love sit another week without too much concern for the season. Richardson is not good. (Most people add a "yet" here) Their D can certainly win this game. Taylor is a heckuva back but ok their D can man up and hold him down some maybe. A win is quite possible here.

I've read how they must start Malik and give him a chance or else why'd they trade for him and that would wreck any confidence or hope he has if they don't and just be unfair unreasonable- imagine "practice squad guy is starting over you" that doesn't happen.

Clifford was a good looking young QB last year and somehow couldn't hack it this past summer. His anti-Levis trait on every draft break down and Penn State fan's lips was his mental makeup. Green Bay probably wants the 2023 version of Clifford right now. Not too many mistakes, be a game manager.

The more mistakes Willis makes the better Clifford's calm mental makeup will seem. I bet he plays. I would put money on it if I could. One site had Clifford 50 yards passing and took it down. I was whiney because I went back and it was gone.
 
well, the pack got a win this week. I'd say the pressure is off for the moment. another win this next week vs Tennessee and the team will be in good shape when he returns
 
I’m hearing that the Pack medical team thought Love was capable of playing this past week, but that his camp didn’t think he was physically ready. Love prefers to sit out until the Minnesota game week 4. Time will tell - was hoping he would play week 3.
 

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