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QB Jordan Love, GB (2 Viewers)

I think they should give him $200M GTD, with a $58.5M annual salary. He earned it and deserves it.
I would think matching the Lawrence deal gets it done, and Love is certainly more deserving at this point.
Its gotta go up one way or the other - more GTD or more annual. Why would a guy who just threw for 2nd most TDs in the league let his agent settle on a deal where another guy just tossed....11 less. Just my $.02
 
Uh. Wow. Only one season as starter and highest paid QB of all time. Crazy
Especially as he looked like a replacement level player for half the season. I think Love showed a lot last year, especially down the stretch, but its kind of amazing that he's going to be getting more than Aaron Rodgers was when he was the back-to-back MVP 3 years ago.
 
Dak is just rubbing his hands. Get ready, Jerry, or get out of the way. Soon enough, Dak is going to rob someone's bank.
Why would anyone pay Dak? I think it’s more likely he gets franchised for a year or two and then signs a 3 year deal with some trash franchise like the Raiders or Jets and then fades into obscurity
 
First five QB's drafted in 2020:

-Joe Burrow: Five years, $275M
-Tua Tagovailoa: Four years, $212.4M
-Justin Herbert: Five years, $262.5M
-Jordan Love: Four years, $220M
-Jalen Hurts: Five years, $255M
 
Dak is just rubbing his hands. Get ready, Jerry, or get out of the way. Soon enough, Dak is going to rob someone's bank.
Why would anyone pay Dak? I think it’s more likely he gets franchised for a year or two and then signs a 3 year deal with some trash franchise like the Raiders or Jets and then fades into obscurity
Dak can't be franchised by Dallas next year.
 
The new Top 8 annually paid QBs in the NFL
  • Love: $55M
  • Lawrence: $55M
  • Burrow: $55M
  • Tua: $53.1M
  • Goff: $53M
  • Herbert: $52.5M
  • Lamar: $52M
  • Hurts: $51M

  • Combined playoff record: 16-17
  • Combined Super Bowls: 3
  • Combined Super Bowl wins: 0

There are five active QBs who have won a Super Bowl. Mahomes has done it three times, four other QBs have done it once. Flacco is a backup, Wilson will be soon, Rodgers is at the end of his career, and Stafford.
 
The new Top 8 annually paid QBs in the NFL
  • Love: $55M
  • Lawrence: $55M
  • Burrow: $55M
  • Tua: $53.1M
  • Goff: $53M
  • Herbert: $52.5M
  • Lamar: $52M
  • Hurts: $51M

  • Combined playoff record: 16-17
  • Combined Super Bowls: 3
  • Combined Super Bowl wins: 0

There are five active QBs who have won a Super Bowl. Mahomes has done it three times, four other QBs have done it once. Flacco is a backup, Wilson will be soon, Rodgers is at the end of his career, and Stafford.
Technically those numbers won’t apply to Love until the 2025 season. He was still signed for 2024, and the extension adds on 4 more years. So he’s really getting paid about $232m over the span of 5 years, which is still a hefty $46.4m per year. But his new money average, starting in 2025, is $55m per year for 4 years.
 
The new Top 8 annually paid QBs in the NFL
  • Love: $55M
  • Lawrence: $55M
  • Burrow: $55M
  • Tua: $53.1M
  • Goff: $53M
  • Herbert: $52.5M
  • Lamar: $52M
  • Hurts: $51M

  • Combined playoff record: 16-17
  • Combined Super Bowls: 3
  • Combined Super Bowl wins: 0

There are five active QBs who have won a Super Bowl. Mahomes has done it three times, four other QBs have done it once. Flacco is a backup, Wilson will be soon, Rodgers is at the end of his career, and Stafford.
Technically those numbers won’t apply to Love until the 2025 season. He was still signed for 2024, and the extension adds on 4 more years. So he’s really getting paid about $232m over the span of 5 years, which is still a hefty $46.4m per year. But his new money average, starting in 2025, is $55m per year for 4 years.
Yep. And all of that is just accounting numbers anyways. 75 million dollar signing bonus. Wow. 155 million guarantees. Nice. Well done kid.
 
Uh. Wow. Only one season as starter and highest paid QB of all time. Crazy
Technically the same $ as Burrow if my math is correct.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens if he bonks his noggin again. I know you can’t predict injury but his concussions seem pretty significant, and unique to Tua’s situation.
 
Yeah. Its a big deal…until the next qb signs. Glad its done and he will be back in practice.
The beauty of this sports money machine. Wasn't that long ago that we thougt Mahomes money was huge. Now it's the biggest bargain in sports. Gotta think Dallas feels the worst about Love's deal. Waiting to sign Dak until now is gonna cost them a ton of money.
 
Here’s the full breakdown:

1. Signing bonus: $75 million, with $25 million paid within 10 days, $25 million paid by October 4, 2024, and $25 million paid by December 27, 2024.

2. 2024 base salary: $3.5 million, fully guaranteed.


3. 2025 workout bonus: $500,000.

4. 2025 base salary: $11.9 million, fully guaranteed.

5. 2025 per-game roster bonus: $600,000 total.

6. 2026 workout bonus: $500,000.

7. 2026 base salary: $49.9 million, guaranteed for injury at signing; of that amount, $10.4 million is fully guaranteed at signing and $39.5 million becomes fully guaranteed on the fifth day of the 2025 league year. ($39.5 million will convert to an option bonus in 2026.)

8. 2026 per-game roster bonus: $600,000 total.

9. 2027 workout bonus: $500,000.

10. 2027 base salary: $41.9 million, $20 million of which is guaranteed for injury at signing and becomes fully guaranteed on the fifth day of the 2026 league year. ($31.5 million will convert to an option bonus in 2027.)

11. 2027 per-game roster bonus: $600,000 total.

12. 2028 workout bonus: $500,000.

13. 2028 base salary: $43.9 million.

14. 2028 per-game roster bonus: $600,000 total.

The deal also includes $250,000 in Pro Bowl escalators for 2025 through 2028, based on making the Pro Bowl in 2024 through 2027. There’s also a $250,000 Pro Bowl incentive for 2028, pushing the upside to $1.25 million.

The four-year, $220 million extension ($55 million per year in new money) combines with the existing $10.5 base salary for 2024, creating a five-year, $230.5 million deal ($46.1 million per year).

The deal has $100.8 million fully guaranteed at signing, with a practical guarantee of $140.3 million. After only two seasons, the full guarantee moves to $160.3 million.

The contract binds the Packers to Love for three years. If they’d release him after the 2026 season, they’d be saddled with $20 million in guaranteed salary for 2027, subject to offset.
 
Yeah. Its a big deal…until the next qb signs. Glad its done and he will be back in practice.
The beauty of this sports money machine. Wasn't that long ago that we thougt Mahomes money was huge. Now it's the biggest bargain in sports. Gotta think Dallas feels the worst about Love's deal. Waiting to sign Dak until now is gonna cost them a ton of money.
yesterday's overpay is tomorrow's bargain. all these young qbs being signed to huge deals avoids situations like the cowboys find themselves in. but dak is just focused on cause it's the cowboys. cousins was/is always raking the cash in a similar situation. with streaming deals and the nfl being more profitable than ever in a few years all these big qb contracts won't seem that big when the likes of stroud get their bag and we have an 18 game season with some exclusively on 4 different streaming platforms and more international games. love may have made himself an extra 60-80million with his playoff performance but it's quite possible he's worth every penny
 
Technically the same $ as Burrow if my math is correct.
He's not the highest paid guy, this is just agent PR. Same with Tua. Also not the highest paid guy.
I think he's tied for the highest, who are you seeing is higher?

But I think he got a slightly better contract then any other QB has been handed out. Like Tua, but for a little more money, the fact he got a 4 year deal instead of a 5 year deal is a win for the player(s).
 
I think he's tied for the highest, who are you seeing is higher?
The shady math that we are seeing here (and it's not the end of the world) is that people are comparing their 4 year extension to the average of the contracts other guys signed.

They are only the top paid guys if you don't count 2024 in those calculations. Ona per year average, over the next 5 years for both guys, they are NOT the highest paid QBs.

If you include 2024, and make it a 5 year deal, instead of a 4 year extension? They aren't the top guys.
 
I think he's tied for the highest, who are you seeing is higher?
The shady math that we are seeing here (and it's not the end of the world) is that people are comparing their 4 year extension to the average of the contracts other guys signed.

They are only the top paid guys if you don't count 2024 in those calculations. Ona per year average, over the next 5 years for both guys, they are NOT the highest paid QBs.

If you include 2024, and make it a 5 year deal, instead of a 4 year extension? They aren't the top guys.
I don't include 2024. Never looked at that way. It's an extension, not a renegotiation.


If agents are guilty of trying to make contracts look better then they are with overinflated presentation of guarantees and backloaded contracts with money the players will never see I'd say GM's/teams/owners are equally guilty of trying to look fiscally prudent when they try and include the remaining contract as part of the extension.
 
Dak is just rubbing his hands. Get ready, Jerry, or get out of the way. Soon enough, Dak is going to rob someone's bank.
Why would anyone pay Dak? I think it’s more likely he gets franchised for a year or two and then signs a 3 year deal with some trash franchise like the Raiders or Jets and then fades into obscurity
Dak's current contract includes a no-trade and no franchise tag, so the Cowboys pay him, or someone else does in free agency, and make no mistake about it—he is getting a bag—a big bag.
 
Uh. Wow. Only one season as starter and highest paid QB of all time. Crazy
Especially as he looked like a replacement level player for half the season. I think Love showed a lot last year, especially down the stretch, but its kind of amazing that he's going to be getting more than Aaron Rodgers was when he was the back-to-back MVP 3 years ago.
Agree on the bolded - there were a lot of question marks early last year whether he’d even be their future, but here we are. The kid definitely showed a lot down the stretch, but seems like quite a leap of faith.

At the end of the day though, that’s the market. There are only 31 of his compatriots and probably 1/3 of them are nothing more than stop gaps. With the league sitting on a ridiculous pool of money and so much value placed on the QB position, that’s how it goes
 
Dak is just rubbing his hands. Get ready, Jerry, or get out of the way. Soon enough, Dak is going to rob someone's bank.
Why would anyone pay Dak? I think it’s more likely he gets franchised for a year or two and then signs a 3 year deal with some trash franchise like the Raiders or Jets and then fades into obscurity
Dak's current contract includes a no-trade and no franchise tag, so the Cowboys pay him, or someone else does in free agency, and make no mistake about it—he is getting a bag—a big bag.
Dak's also a better QB than any of the guys who have gotten the bag this offseason. Dak leaves Dallas, I think we're going to find out that he's been carrying them, not the other way around.

Who’s closer to a league winner, Love or Richardson?
in fantasy, richardson. in the NFL, love
Fantasy of course.
I think that's a debate. Richardson isn't falling to anyone right now, often going in round 4. Love is going multiple rounds later, so he's probably a better value to help win leagues. If the question is who is more likely to be QB1, I guess its Richardson, but truthfully, I think neither has much of a chance.
 
One interesting thought. Since 1992 and quite possibly until 2034 the Packers have transitioned around 3 foundational QBs. Favre. Rodgers. Love. 37 years and counting with one of those three on roster. That is absolutely mind boggling.

Don't quote my math I just glanced at it. Ha ha
 
One interesting thought. Since 1992 and quite possibly until 2034 the Packers have transitioned around 3 foundational QBs. Favre. Rodgers. Love. 37 years and counting with one of those three on roster. That is absolutely mind boggling.

Don't quote my math I just glanced at it. Ha ha
It is. And they have 2 championships to show for it. Remains to be seen if Love can get them over that hump as well. I'll always believe had they drafted a position player in that 2020 draft instead of moving up for Love they greatly increase their chances of winning another one with AR from 2020-2022. There were several players there that could have significantly widened their window.
 
The Packers wanted to be the smartest guys in the room again and chose future over present. Now their present is a bloated QB contract.

having a bloated QB contract is a sign of organizational success. You need one.
I would say if the bloat seems more warranted sure ... Not just "bloat the QB's contract, then you know you're doing good!"

Agreed, I just think the idea that teams only have a 1-2 year window to win on a rookie contract is massively overblown right now. Having a good QB locked up on a big contract is a good thing, and reaching that point should be each organization's #1 goal as it is critical for long-term success. Of course, giving a big contract to a bad QB is a bad thing.
 
The Packers wanted to be the smartest guys in the room again and chose future over present. Now their present is a bloated QB contract.

having a bloated QB contract is a sign of organizational success. You need one.
I would say if the bloat seems more warranted sure ... Not just "bloat the QB's contract, then you know you're doing good!"

Agreed, I just think the idea that teams only have a 1-2 year window to win on a rookie contract is massively overblown right now. Having a good QB locked up on a big contract is a good thing, and reaching that point should be each organization's #1 goal as it is critical for long-term success. Of course, giving a big contract to a bad QB is a bad thing.
Yeah, hopefully he can live up to his potential.
 

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