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QB Shedeur Sanders, CLE (2 Viewers)
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darksideofoz
Footballguy
It wasn't his throwing arm. It was the briefcase full of money arm.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
ESPN Cleveland
Here are all of Shedeur Sanders’ throws against the 1st team defense today
He’s so far from ready. He has to see it before he throws it. At this level he’s way behind. Not unusual for a rookie as they just don’t comprehend the speed of the game, but that is one of the major knocks on him coming out and he’s going to have to fix it.
Chaka
Footballguy
You got that from one bad throw, a run and two good throws.ESPN Cleveland
Here are all of Shedeur Sanders’ throws against the 1st team defense today
He’s so far from ready. He has to see it before he throws it. At this level he’s way behind. Not unusual for a rookie as they just don’t comprehend the speed of the game, but that is one of the major knocks on him coming out and he’s going to have to fix it.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
One on the numbers and one on the sidelines. Seemed pretty good to me.You got that from one bad throw, a run and two good throws.ESPN Cleveland
Here are all of Shedeur Sanders’ throws against the 1st team defense today
He’s so far from ready. He has to see it before he throws it. At this level he’s way behind. Not unusual for a rookie as they just don’t comprehend the speed of the game, but that is one of the major knocks on him coming out and he’s going to have to fix it.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
You got that from one bad throw, a run and two good throws.ESPN Cleveland
Here are all of Shedeur Sanders’ throws against the 1st team defense today
He’s so far from ready. He has to see it before he throws it. At this level he’s way behind. Not unusual for a rookie as they just don’t comprehend the speed of the game, but that is one of the major knocks on him coming out and he’s going to have to fix it.
Yes
He's a good kid. I think he's going to remind everyone of that in these interviews around the game.
I think the only advantage here is simply that he is playing and gains this experience and the dual practice experience too.
I see leaps taken elsewhere and ...it's too much. If he runs with the ones when others are healthy then we talk of him being an actual starter. No one gave Trey Lance the in season starting gig a few days ago so let's stay even keel here too.
I think I'd bet if I could- if he plays very well, some QB is traded.
He was fourth string but also a potential top two pick. It could be him. It could be anyone.
I hope he does great for the pot stirring and for his own success
I think the only advantage here is simply that he is playing and gains this experience and the dual practice experience too.
I see leaps taken elsewhere and ...it's too much. If he runs with the ones when others are healthy then we talk of him being an actual starter. No one gave Trey Lance the in season starting gig a few days ago so let's stay even keel here too.
I think I'd bet if I could- if he plays very well, some QB is traded.
He was fourth string but also a potential top two pick. It could be him. It could be anyone.
I hope he does great for the pot stirring and for his own success
warpig33
Footballguy
Good for him! Now he needs to run with this opportunity. I told my friends the other day it sounds like Sanders is doing/saying all the right things...he's really trying to fit in and be a part of the team. He told his dad to stay away because he just wants to be one of the guys. I heard on ESPN this morning they said if CLE tries to put Sanders on the taxi, he wouldn't last a week and would no doubt get scooped up by another team. So again, the dilemma is WHO do they put on the taxi? Shedeur or Dillon? I think Pickett would be safe on the taxi...but I could be wrong. CLE totally boofed the draft and now their gonna end up looking like clowns...AGAIN.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Wouldn't expect much since he's been running with the 3s and 4s if/when he got opportunities in practice. He's also sorting a sore arm, and preseason is always sloppy so....
I don't expect any semblance of timing.
People want to see him but temper expectations. I just hope he gets enough protection that he can step up in the pocket and won't be under constant pressure.
IMHO, if he has time, he'll look 'ok'.
I don't expect any semblance of timing.
People want to see him but temper expectations. I just hope he gets enough protection that he can step up in the pocket and won't be under constant pressure.
IMHO, if he has time, he'll look 'ok'.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I think you're still over-thinking this.
warpig33
Footballguy
I tend to do that.
But seriously...what do you think the play for them is? Do you think Sanders or Gabriel would be safe on the taxi? Teams don't carry more than 2 QBs on game days (usually). If they need an "emergency" QB, we often see a punter out there taking snaps...or a depth WR. Could they carry 3 on game day? It's possible.
MAC_32
Footballguy
My opinion is the same now as it was in May.I tend to do that.
*Gabriel was a stupid pick and if they wanted to slip him to the taxi they probably could, but won't
*Sanders fate will be known by early Aug - if the predraft nonsense continues then he won't be long for the team, but if it doesn't then he'll make the 53 (we're trending towards the latter)
*Whoever between Flacco and Pickett doesn't win the starter job won't be here week 1
Supplemental note - this team temporarily kept 4 QB's after the initial cut to 53 last year. Don't be surprised if that happens again, but only 3 will be on the active roster come game week. The one wrinkle that could develop is if one of them starts the season on IR and given how camp's started that probability is certainly greater than 0.
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Ultimately, I both agree and disagree with you about the team 'boofing' the draft. How's that for fence riding! As I mentioned, I think and always thought the Gabriel pick was stupid. That's a spot you gamble on a cost controlled player at an expensive position (Grant?) or take a swing at a potential starter at a less valuable position (Watts?). If you like him so much, then target him sometime day 3 when most others are taking their longshot QB's. Shedeur? he was not supposed to fall as far as he did- I have no qualms with the pick. I did the research post draft and if I remember right every 5th rd QB in recent memory but one topped out as a backup, at best. Put the name aside, there are no expectations tied to him panning out (as should've been the case with Gabriel!) - given his cost the expectation is he won't.
None of that is where I disagree with your take though. This team probably won't be good this year and neither QB pans out, so I expect them to be picking early again in 2026...and I feel the same about the team that traded their #1 to us. The team is positioned to get pretty much whatever rookie QB they want in the next 2 years, and that was accomplished despite picking #2 in a 1 QB draft, which is why I think the team's draft will be looked at as a roaring success 2-3 years from now...if you pretend the Judkins stuff pans out anyway
TripItUp
Footballguy
The NFL Network commentary confirmed what I've been saying in this thread. If Shadeur doesn't make the 53 he'll be quickly snatched up by another team. No Canada, no practice or taxi squad etc...which is a narrative some are trying to push, even in this thread.
Stop hating.
Stop hating.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
It is hating for some to think that teams won't be tripping over themselves to snag a 5th round pick?
TripItUp
Footballguy
Don't change the narrative. It's hating if you think he won't be picked up.
And if anybody wants to put a wager on it, you know where to find me.
This is barring injury of course...that could derail him obviously.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
LawFitz
Footballguy
Thank you. What a ridiculous stance to take.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
Well.... here we are...
Side note; wonder how much Yahoo should pay me for writing that article for them 3 months ago haha... just playin around of course. I'm sure no one is getting rich writing fantasy articles and I couldn't take the criticisms of frequent FBG board posters
The Frankman
Footballguy
Dude is looking really good. As was said during the draft, he has a high floor and can run an offense.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yep, moving the ball and getting points. He certainly has earned more opportunity.
boilerdave
Footballguy
Do you think the Browns would trade Shedeur Sanders for Richardson?
Asking for a Colts fan.
I mean a 5th rounder for a 1st rounder seems more than fair to me.
Asking for a Colts fan.
I mean a 5th rounder for a 1st rounder seems more than fair to me.
The Frankman
Footballguy
staph... 
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
He threw into triple coverage in the end zone and got lucky to convert the TD, easily could have been intercepted
And everyone is ready to throw roses his way, national media, go back and look at the pass and how close it was
Turnovers in the red zone or interceptions in the end zone will end your career quickly
Otherwise yeah he looks lively
And everyone is ready to throw roses his way, national media, go back and look at the pass and how close it was
Turnovers in the red zone or interceptions in the end zone will end your career quickly
Otherwise yeah he looks lively
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
Terrible take. It was a tight window throw he put in the exact right spot where only his guy could get it. There were some inaccurate throws tonight he needs to clean up, but that TD was a thing of beauty.
Football Jones
Footballguy
We'll see how things ultimately shake out, but either way, the 5th round was a joke. Good lesson for NFL teams as well as lots of NFL fans with their bad takes regarding his draft status. It's good for people to get knocked from their high horse every once in awhile.
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smbkrypt24
Footballguy
I agree he put it in the exact right spot, but I would bet coaches would advise he not throw that at all.
I should also add that I do think it was a strong start even if it’s just preseason.
-OZ-
Footballguy
I’m missing the lesson taught to the teams. Care to break that down a bit?
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
Agree with this. I don’t see any lesson
massraider
Footballguy
Yeah, and that 2nd TD, that pass was low, man. The receiver had to slide to the ground, he really could have injured himself!!
And then, during the game, he was giving an interview on the sideline!! Prima Donna!!!!
Then, I saw him smiling in the sideline, swear to god. This guy doesn't care about football.
I expect more from a rookie 5th round QB.
SAD
And then, during the game, he was giving an interview on the sideline!! Prima Donna!!!!
Then, I saw him smiling in the sideline, swear to god. This guy doesn't care about football.
I expect more from a rookie 5th round QB.
SAD
-OZ-
Footballguy
The funny thing is this post could be genuine
J Giles Band
Footballguy
If it were from Pete Hegseth... absolutely.
Eh, he looked like I expected - a rookie making his first preseason debut. Unfortunately, I thought the whole Cleveland offense made Carolina's 1's look like a stout defense. And they were dead last in the league in defense last year... The first TD came because Trevor ETN muffed a punt in the redzone and they got the ball back on the 7. Still, he made a good throw into the corner and placed the ball very well. I'd be concerned that Cleveland couldn't move the ball until late in the 2nd quarter against a mix of backups for a dreadful defense but it is only preseason game #1. Didn't help that some of the starting skill guys for Cleveland weren't out there like Jeudy or Ford. A nice ease in test but a long way to go...
Football Jones
Footballguy
Not that I saw every post in the SP regarding Sanders, but I saw a ton that went something like this...'Who does this kid think he is? The 5th round is where he belongs. That'll learn him.' Total high-horse energy.
As far as the NFL, at a position where teams are dying (almost literally) for quality play, Sanders wasn't taken until the 5th round. Why? It certainly wasn't about talent. In an era where we have players running away in a potential deadly accident and way too many sexual assaults, they can't manage somebody like Shedeur? What made them think the Sanders family isn't all about ball? I'm betting the next time a kid like him crosses their path, especially a QB, they'll handle it differently.
That said, if you believe Sanders is actually a 5th round talent, we're too far apart to have a serious discussion.
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Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
Why would they advise against it? That part of the end zone was open. Get it over the first guy and lead yours, very little can go wrong from there. Most throws in the NFL are into very tight windows. I was impressed with the vision, the touch, and the placement. And it resulted in a TD.
I assume the lesson is draft good QBs you numbskulls
TripItUp
Footballguy
how is that opinion working out for you now?
TripItUp
Footballguy
how about now?
TripItUp
Footballguy
How about now?
rockaction
Footballguy
I had one more, but you get the idea. I think I said starting in the second or third. There were people that just were thinking that the price was so cheap. I only got more intense in the 4th and 5th but had given up so I didn't post.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
The NFL told us he was a 5th round pick. If any team saw him as anything more, they would have drafted him in rounds 1, 2, 3 or 4. They didn't. Those are just the facts.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, not doing a victory lap yet, but any quarterback-needy team should have picked him over a freaking tight end. But it's the Jets. And it's the NFL. Don't forget folks. The only people that are smart in the NFL are their lawyers. The rest of them? Dumb dumb dumb. The guys that went to the "good" schools? They're affirmative action jocks. Don't ever forget it when they try to lie or snow you. The lawyers are the best in the country. Different story. You hear anybody from the NFL talking that isn't a lawyer? You can bet that for whatever job they have that they're the lowest-IQ group you could ever be around. I hear they like prog music, too.
Dude, if you're buying the NFL's take on character after all these years of following it, then I have this cool bridge in Brooklyn.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Tonight didn't change that every team in the league passed on him in the draft multiple times.
I clearly couched the my comment in the report/speculation that he could get moved to the practice squad. That hasn't happened yet and I said he might have a great camp. Tonight, he looked good.
