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We do KTS (aka pick your own draft spot) - when the 1st pick took 1.02, I was strongly considering taking 1.04 specifically targeting Taylor, but the sexiness of the back to back picks at bookend 1.01 was too strong to resist.
From what you've posted on various topics, 2021 was a rough ride, gb. This might be the humane ending, ala Old Yeller.
I was never disappointed with Priest Holmes, Ladanian Tomlinson, or Sean Alexander. So yeah....it's been a minute.
I know it belongs in the venting grieving thread but I'm in the same boat. If I'd won yesterday and then found out today that CMC's on the IR, I'd probably be more irritated than I am now. Now I get to play with literally nothing to lose.
If you took the time to read above, I was only showing that CMC is a stud WHEN HE IS HEALTHY. It wouldn't matter if it was just 1 game or 4, or 1000. When CMC plays an entire game, he is a stud, period. In his career, he has started 58 games, and has 1305.6 PPR fantasy points in those games, for an average of 22.5. Please let me know what other RB's have started at least 50 games and have a higher per game average, thank you.
This entire time, I have only tried to say he is a stud when he plays. Every RB is a bust when he doesn't. Yes, it sucks when your top pick gets injured (as CMC has done the last 2 seasons), but our definitions of "bust" are different. I don't know your exact scoring, but in the 10 games he has started over the last 2 seasons, he has averaged 21.8 PPR. To me, a bust is a guy like Mike Davis.
Not quite pennies on the dollar, but his history will be priced in. For someone who has a competitive win-now team he offers depth and starting value, but no way can you hitch your wagon to him. Sadly, he's joining the ranks of Zeke, Cook, and Kamara where he's no longer a cornerstone dynasty player.
yeah but if we use the CMAC logic that is posted in here, Henry would be considered a bust this year cause he only gave you 8 games and in half of those he had less then 20 points in some leagues.....so no way you take a bust in the first next year....
Solid point.
I sold Kamara 2 years ago fearing Brees retirement & heavy workload taking a toll. I declined to invest in Zeke last season when the owner was going at me hard for players/picks. Always better to take the risk on a young player breaking out than betting an older player wont break down. Or, as Walsh was famous for, better to sell a year too early than a year too late.
think I'd bet dollars to donuts he still doesn't make it out of the first in most 12 teamers by the time we get to next year...lots of peacocks spreading their feathers in here right now about how they won't touch him cause they are a little bitter right now....no way he makes it past 2.05 in most drafts IMO....it was a hammy and sprained ankle....
This was one hell of a season when it comes to injuries. My RBs have dropped like flies (Mostert, Jacobs, Edmonds, Barkley, and Carson), but I was fortunate to draft Hubbard in the final round of my league's draft, and picked up Mattison a few weeks ago. Somehow I've managed to stay in playoff contention even though I'm guessing I've gotten more points from FA/WW/backup RBs than the starters I drafted.
For a fantasy career, he has been one of the best. I'll agree with that. I was even been willing to write off last year as an anomaly. But his injuries are starting to mount, he keeps getting older and the Panthers keep getting worse.
No. I stated above I would much prefer deviation over a couple of mehhhh games. Henry is still ranked 3rd in scoring (standard league) and hasn't played since week 8.
I don’t regret drafting CMC at 1.01. It was the right choice at the time. When healthy, CMC is a league winner since he produces most weeks on the ground and/or in the air.
Ouch. I also have Sanders in the league I drafted CMC. And Montgomery. Those were my first three picks, so I'm securely in last, and might be worse if the Michael Pittman/Diontae Johnson 4th and 5th picks hadn't worked out the way they did. I'm lucky to have won four games so far.
I have Pittman too which was a nice surprise but WR hasn’t been a problem. RB has been a struggle all season. It happens.
I can pretty much guarantee the average CMC owner will not sell for less than top 5 overall value, and that people will happily pay good value to get him.
I agree. There should be a big injury discount. Which is what I thought when I tried to buy-low on Saquan last offseason. There wasn't, but there should have been. Sunk cost fallacy is only valid if the person who sunk the cost realizes their asset isn't that valuable any more. And FF managers are, in general, too emotionally and collaterally invested in their top players to sell low on a former top asset.
Completely agree. But if I'm sitting 2.05 and CMC is there, team 2.06 ain't getting him. No way I let that pass. Not to mention he'll be relatively rested from having so much time off. I fully expect CMC to dedicate himself to flexibility training to try to avoid the soft tissue injuries. Sprained ankles happen all the time. No preparation will prevent it.
You said his 3 injuries last year were also fluky. So now we have 2 seasons with 5 "fluky" injuries. Hmmmmm...something isnt adding up. Perhaps its the 700+ touches the team gave him in 2 meaningless years. I dont care who you are, how well you train, what flexibility exercises you do.....your body is writing a check and now we see its getting cashed in cmacs case. I said it before and i will say it again, he is done. Probably both fantasy wise and in real life.
I'm the same, which is why I drafted Barkley in the 2nd round (oof). I would still take CMC in the first round next year because when healthy he can win the league for his owners. There aren't very many players you can say that about.
I'll see your draft with a CMC, ETN, Jeudy, & Irv Smith. My team was born in the IR.
I like how you used standard scoring instead of PPR. It makes it look alot better to you to type 12.9 versus 18.2, doesn't it? In PPR, even playing under 30 snaps in 43% of his games, he is still averaging 18.2, which was good for RB7 per game. Just think about that. In 3 out of 7 games he had 20, 22, and 29 snaps, and still managed to be the 7th best PPR RB.
I used standard scoring because that is my league’s scoring system. But yes you are correct, in standard scoring he was an upper-half RB2, and in PPR scoring he was a lower-half RB1.TheWinz said:
We also live in a world where we tell ourselves you can't predict injuries while at the same time, we are constantly trying to predict injuries - or anything else we think we can predict. FF is about the constant pursuit to be the smartest person in the room. This pursuit lead to some brilliantly avoiding CMC while others stupidly drafted him.TheWinz said:
It's comical. You visit the thread of any injured stud and all you read are people complaining about how their season is doomed. But those people are too embarrassed to open the Mike Davis and Allen Robinson thread to complain they drafted a dud.
