The General
Footballguy
It’s an easy “he misspoke” situation -
we told him to be ready, young man was just excited after his big game!
Even though we know they are lying their asses off
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RB Christian McCaffrey, SF (4 Viewers)
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we told him to be ready, young man was just excited after his big game!
Even though we know they are lying their asses off
The General
Footballguy
This is right but CMC did the whole song and dance about he’s 100% playing and I believe Lynch on Friday also said he’s playing.
If there is actually proof that he then told this kid he’s playing that night I could see the org getting fined.
There’s no way that will happen though, I’m sure their statements can all be parsed to give them cover.
Or even easier, they can say he was told he would be the STARTER on Friday, but they still hoped CMC could be the backup right up until before the game.It’s an easy “he misspoke” situation -
we told him to be ready, young man was just excited after his big game!
Even though we know they are lying their asses off
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Wish I’d caught that. When asked on Saturday if he’d play he said “absolutely”. When asked if he’d have his full workload he said “I hope so”.He said he pulled himself because of the injury.
Yes, just mentioned it was on a segment he did yesterday morning on Fox, was a few minutes before the games kicked off at noon.
Had he said anything negative at all I could have subbed in a WR at flex and instead of losing by 2.5 points I would have won by 12 in my home league.
What an absolutely brutal loss.
What also kills me about the reporting on this is when I had my draft I checked the news right before picking him 1.01 - everything was sunshine & butterflies. Returned to practice, no issues. Even the slightest bit of bad tidings & I either take Lamb at 1.01 or I move down to 3 and take Lamb or Hill or Hall.
At the very least I would have reached further for Mason.
Just a horrible start to the year for so many of us. Luckily this is my only share out of 6-7 redrafts & 3 dynasty leagues.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He was doubtful. There’s no question after Mason’s comments.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Most drafts occurred before Achilles was mentioned.
But not the calf which is a soft tissue and usually lingers, added concern b/c 28 yr old RB. Not trying to imply i'm the smartest guy in the room here but that's enough of a red flag to have some concern.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Fine and a loss of some mid round pick should be coming from this one.
The Duff Man
Footballguy
Kudos to that reporter for asking the question and getting an answer.
That’s all fine and reasonable. He’s also something like 5ppg better than every other RB. It’s a risk/reward decision, and I’m faulting not a single person for taking the gamble on McCaffrey. Season is far from over, and if you handcuffed with Mason you’re perfectly fine.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
This was discussed in the game thread -- it takes multiple egregious violations of the injury reporting rules for a team to lose a pick over it. Won't happen here. A fine? Much more likely.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Fred Taylor vibes here. 14 weeks of "questionable"
I took Barkley at 1.01.................let me caveat that by saying our draft was on Saturday so I had seen how good Barkley looked and was still worried about the calf issue. In addition, if I didn't take Barkley I would have been facing Jayden Reed and his 19 pts as well as Barkley. Figured it was worth the bird in the hand. I feel much better about it now.
Banger
Footballguy
I have to say that I'm shocked by this development. I know he's had a calf injury and so does Russ Wilson and probably many others. I heard nothing about achilles until this thread today. I have to think that the niners think / thought was a minor / short term issue otherwise why wouldn't they go out and get some additional RB help?
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
- Friday afternoon McCaffrey has to leave practice early
- Sometime on Friday Mason is told he is starting
- Saturday, when asked if there was any doubt in his mind about his Week 1 availability, McCaffrey simply replied, "Nope."
This was all coordinated. They knew he wasn't playing. Obv they will try to lie about it and twist words around but this kind of thing can't happen with the NFL in bed with sports betting sites.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
The Achilles wasn’t reported until the Thursday before the 1st weekend.
It was a “calf”.
ATB
Footballguy
There's no way around it for San Fran. This isn't a court of law. There's no reasonable doubt. Everyone looking at this situation knows they ****ed around to gain a perceived advantage at the expense of those who might bet on the game.
Goodell isn't going to go easy on them.
They said all week long that CMC was 100% playing. CMC said it. Shanahan said it. Lynch said it.
And now we know they told his backup he would be starting 3 days before the game.
Not only that (and this is the real lynchpin, no pun intended), but Schefter said BEFORE THE GAME EVEN STARTED that he would be surprised if CMC even plays NEXT WEEK.
So any argument that CMC was really just a gametime decision and they wanted his backup ready to go just in case can we hand-waved away as ********. They knew. They kept it a secret. And Vegas is going to be absolutely out of their minds PISSED.
They have to set an example. If they don't, deep pockets will lose confidence in the game.
And that can't happen.
Hefty fines and penalized picks incoming. And the worst part is the dumbasses didn't need the advantage they perceived to gain in hiding the injury.
Goodell isn't going to go easy on them.
They said all week long that CMC was 100% playing. CMC said it. Shanahan said it. Lynch said it.
And now we know they told his backup he would be starting 3 days before the game.
Not only that (and this is the real lynchpin, no pun intended), but Schefter said BEFORE THE GAME EVEN STARTED that he would be surprised if CMC even plays NEXT WEEK.
So any argument that CMC was really just a gametime decision and they wanted his backup ready to go just in case can we hand-waved away as ********. They knew. They kept it a secret. And Vegas is going to be absolutely out of their minds PISSED.
They have to set an example. If they don't, deep pockets will lose confidence in the game.
And that can't happen.
Hefty fines and penalized picks incoming. And the worst part is the dumbasses didn't need the advantage they perceived to gain in hiding the injury.
Dizzy
Footballguy
I was drafting too late in the order to be bothered to follow the CMC "August calf" situation closely, but is it possible that the Achilles wasn't a thing until he started to ramp up his activity second half of last week?
And his "availability" to play versus "100% he's starting and getting normal (heavy) workload" are very different things as well. I mean it seems possible that McCaffrey really thought that he would be available to play MNF and then came out for warm-ups and felt something right away and SFF Staff shut him down.
And his "availability" to play versus "100% he's starting and getting normal (heavy) workload" are very different things as well. I mean it seems possible that McCaffrey really thought that he would be available to play MNF and then came out for warm-ups and felt something right away and SFF Staff shut him down.
The General
Footballguy
Shanahan was asked about Mason's "Friday" comments and he said something to the effect of "I didn't tell him that" referred to another coach (used some name, seemed like a RB coach perhaps) who may have been giving him a "be ready" type pep talk.
Did also mentioned that he did think Mason would be used a lot on Saturday though, so they knew.
Mason was asked again about this comment and he looked like he was on trial for murder and said lets skip that question.
They are lying their asses off
Did also mentioned that he did think Mason would be used a lot on Saturday though, so they knew.
Mason was asked again about this comment and he looked like he was on trial for murder and said lets skip that question.
They are lying their asses off
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SF should get fined for it too.Shanahan was asked about Mason's "Friday" comments and he said something to the effect of "I didn't tell him that" referred to another coach (used some name, seemed like a RB coach perhaps) who may have been giving him a "be ready" type pep talk.
Did also mentioned that he did think Mason would be used a lot on Saturday though, so they knew.
Mason was asked again about this comment and he looked like he was on trial for murder and said lets skip that question.
They are lying their asses off
The General
Footballguy
There are quotes being thrown around that McCaffrey would have played if it were a playoff game but also that he is likely to miss week 2. Now they are just messing with us
Along these lines, all the beat writers and insiders were convinced the team was just being ultra cautious with him and that he'd suit up for week 1. It would have been hard to keep it that quiet if the team had genuine long term concerns about his health the whole time. I'm guessing the fact that CMC is not ready was a surprise to management rather than the product of some intense cover up.
ATB
Footballguy
No one is saying that though. They're saying SF knew he wasn't playing on Friday afternoon/night. They kept it under wraps until gametime. That should bring down hefty penalties and fines if so.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Skeletor Jr says achilles tendonitis
www.si.com
You won't see him before Nov 1 is my guess, they'll keep him fresh for the playoff run
Kyle Shanahan Says 49ers RB Christian McCaffrey has Achilles Tendonitis
Every day we seem to learn a bit more about Christian McCaffrey's Achilles' injury. On Monday, we found out that it's severe enough to keep him out of the regul
You won't see him before Nov 1 is my guess, they'll keep him fresh for the playoff run
ATB
Footballguy
So... "no update"? We know the league cares about its public perception in terms of trustworthiness with its ties to betting sites, now. Wouldn't take a "no news" update as some kind of confirmation they don't care about the f*ckery that happened Monday night.
I have this. It sucks.Skeletor Jr says achilles tendonitis
Kyle Shanahan Says 49ers RB Christian McCaffrey has Achilles Tendonitis
Every day we seem to learn a bit more about Christian McCaffrey's Achilles' injury. On Monday, we found out that it's severe enough to keep him out of the regul
You won't see him before Nov 1 is my guess, they'll keep him fresh for the playoff run
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Dr Feeley on the 95.7 the game just said CMC’s Achilles tendon issue is *not* a risk for Achilles rupture.
Just uncomfortable to play on when it flares up. Said there’s no magic cure, just rest.
Once it’s feeling better, he’s good to go, but it could flare up mid-game. Recommends that they ease him in.
Just uncomfortable to play on when it flares up. Said there’s no magic cure, just rest.
Once it’s feeling better, he’s good to go, but it could flare up mid-game. Recommends that they ease him in.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Shanny not amused by Rappaport’s premature reporting that CMC is a longshot for the Vikings:
Day to day, could have played Sunday.
It’s clearly overreaction SZN. I’m not very optimistic that he’ll play, but he did practice today.
Day to day, could have played Sunday.
It’s clearly overreaction SZN. I’m not very optimistic that he’ll play, but he did practice today.
The General
Footballguy
Translation: He’s totally going on the IR
Why would they need to trade for a vet? Mason is playing great.
Guerrendo. If CMC misses extended time they’ll pick up another body at the position but it’s unlikely to be in a trade.
BespokeJort
Footballguy
Is this a doctor with the org/firsthand knowledge of CMC specifically, or just based on the wording of the stated diagnosis?
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I came into the convo late, but he was not some random call-in - he was an invited guest, and a sports medicine doctor.
BespokeJort
Footballguy
Listening to it now. Basically just trying to get a feel for if it’s a more educated guess or roughly equivalent counterpoint to Jesse Morse (also a sports medicine doctor, but more of a fantasy guy than a Niners insider), who does seem to think there’s risk of rupture https://x.com/drjessemorse/status/1833862497746518389?s=46&t=TeGV-WnhJLZUOQoiLrvzEw
Edit: full segment is here for anyone else interested https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_j2qvilwwg8
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ATB
Footballguy
Would you start Jeff Wilson tonight with Mostert out and take the risk of CMC starting and not being able to play him? For context, I have Breece Hall and Gibbs as well (keeper league and had first pick). So I'll be starting Breece and Wilson as RBs and Gibbs in flex.
