BladeRunner
Footballguy
Sure, on the surface without digging any deeper that's fine. For those of us that want to dig deeper, though, your assessment has been found wanting.
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RB Christian McCaffrey, SF (2 Viewers)
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zamboni
Footballguy
The vibe is he's out 6 weeks - even if it's 4, that's indeed week 18 at the earliest for a return. The dream is over.
efactor
Footballguy
Lot of holes to fill, so hopefully they wait until the 5th to go RB shopping
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
I don't know why the 49ers don't go full rebuild and trade this guy.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Best shape of his life and all that.
Catbird
Footballguy
Because they might go to the Superbowl if they stay healthy - granted, a big if.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
What about any of the moves the 49ers made in the offseason suggest: (1) they're even trying to win a Super Bowl in 2025; or (2) they still have the talent to win a Super Bowl in 2025?
Thank you @Faust
An interesting thought - remember back in 2020 and 2021 when McCaffrey struggled to stay healthy and was considered "injury prone"?
Then 2022 hit and he soared.
Then 2023 and even better.
Then last year...
2025 will be super interesting.
It's obviously WAY early, but our Jason Wood currently has him as RB4. This will be an interesting summer for him. ADP for him seems to be around the 8-10 range. But of course, lots will change.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Besides Deebo, what is different about the 49ers core now vs their Super Bowl season in 2023?
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
This offseason they lost:
1. Dre Greenlaw who was considered a heart and soul player on their defense in their SB year.
2. Charvarious Ward who was their starting CB
3. Maliek Collins who was their starting DT in 2024 and Javon Hargrave go who was their starting DT in their SB year.
4. Leonard Floyd who was their starting DE.
5. Aaron Bank who started at G for them in 2023 and 2024.
They replaced those guys with:
1. ???
Now you can argue that this guy wasn't good or that guy wasn't good, but they didn't replace those guys with anyone better.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Looks like they're planning on replacing Greenlaw with Winters (3rd yr), Ward with Renardo Green (2nd yr), and Banks with Puni (2nd yr). Based on the contract amounts, it appears they've replaced Floyd with Gross-Matos. I'll give you the DT's though. Do you think they might be waiting until after Monday to sign anyone because they're trying to maximize 2026 comp picks? I didn't pay close attention, but seemed they lost more than they gained in March as you outlined.
efactor
Footballguy
Greenlaw was the big loss, but while an excellent player, he missed almost half his games in his NFL career. Ward will be missed too but after the death of his young daughter, he said he needed a change of scenery. Green is really good as is Lenoir but they need another CB badly.
Collins sucked against the run, Floyd sucked against the run and Banks plain sucked. I am amazed he got a big contract.
49ers offense should be good assuming good health. I would guess they draft a guard on day 2 to replace Banks. My other guess is they spend their 1st rounder and 2 day 2 picks on D, probably DT and CB. Same with their 4th rounders.
Optimistically, with the last place schedule, I think they are a playoff team. Eagles and Lions are the cream of the NFC BUT we saw what happened to Philly in 2023 after a hot start and the Lions collapsed in the playoffs, so make the playoffs and take it from there.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yeah, I agree.
Also, i have to believe that they didn’t see him making a full comeback, or they felt like with so many draft picks they didn’t want to risk paying him coming off that specific injury.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Saw some updates about CMC participating fully in the offseason, no limitations, etc.
I’m taking it all with a huge grain of salt until I see him play.
It’s all sunshine and butterflies to the media. Last year I bought into it, and it was a complete disaster.
I’m taking it all with a huge grain of salt until I see him play.
It’s all sunshine and butterflies to the media. Last year I bought into it, and it was a complete disaster.
efactor
Footballguy
Same. Hope he is all good but has been hurt 3 of the last 5 years. Hate to predict injuries but hard to ignore.
On the flip side, he has bounced back REALLY well from injuries before. Could see him being a value, as his upside is still #1 overall if things break right, but I doubt anyone takes him that highly.
They ended up outbidding the Broncos late in the process. So while I agree he's a major injury risk, that particular transaction was the result of the Niners misreading the market rather than deliberating cutting ties with the player.
efactor
Footballguy
Agree, he could be an amazing value towards the end of the first round. Personally I just couldn’t take him over any of the top 10ish players.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
I think Greenlaw might be one of the top signings of the offseason. I posted a study somewhere (and can't seem to find it again) that found after reviewing all the achilles tears by NFL players, those that return to play are usually back at 100% in the 2nd year of their return. So if we count last season as Greenlaw's return year, he should be back at or near 100% at some point this season.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
We're in the zone where everybody is "in the best shape of their career." I'm with HSG on this, I'd proceed with caution in fantasy with this guy.
Didn't CMC go on the injury report for the calf in December of the previous season? He played on it, then had a couple month off and it returned after a week into training camp. With rest, these things go away and with use, they return. I also don't like the location of the injury, the calf area is . . . not good.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That was before it was something chronic. Bilateral Achilles tendinitis is unlikely to just go away, from what I’ve read. It’s not impossible, but typically to eliminate the condition one must stop doing the things that exacerbate it.
Like, being an NFL RB, for example.
I agree - greater than zero chance he’s the RB1 this year just to mock me for my hubris in drafting him last year.
But a far, far greater chance he plays 8 games or less before something breaks.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Wow, I’d missed that blurb - now I’m mad all over again.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
*both calves.
Tau837
Footballguy
Are there any teams that had strong roster talent and did not lose any good players?
Ward easily had the worst season of his career in 2024, and the 49ers chose not to overpay him. That seems like a good decision.
Collins, Floyd, and Banks were all okay but replaceable.
I agree they may have some difficulty replacing Greenlaw and Ward with equal talent, assuming full return to previous level of play for both of them. Adding Mykel Williams last night is a strong positive for the defense.
They get Aiyuk, McCaffrey, and Trent Williams back. If those players are healthy, the offense should be much improved.
Will their talent be good enough to go to the Super Bowl? Sitting here today, without knowing how injuries will play out for the 49ers and other contenders, I think the answer is yes. I'm not predicting it will happen, just saying I don't think lack of talent is the issue you are making it out to be.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
You can say someone is replaceable, but you need to replace them. The 49ers defense wasn't as good last season as it was in previous years and they lost players who, while arguably are replaceable, weren't replaced. I wouldn't be surprised if that defense takes another step backwards.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Well this isn’t exactly a glowing endorsement of perfect health
Man, if I had shares I’d be trying hard to move them or holding my breath with every rep he takes.
Man, if I had shares I’d be trying hard to move them or holding my breath with every rep he takes.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
What’s his true dynasty trade value? A guy put him and some other players on the block in one of my DEVY leagues, so I offered Cedric Baxter and Evan Stewart for CMC and Jordan James and was rejected. I think CMC value is hard to gauge. Being honest I was somewhat relieved he rejected, because trading for CMC kind of scares me.
FantasyGuru24
Footballguy
Check the odometer .. Time to sell
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He recently went for a 2026 1st & 2025 2.14 in my 16-team league.
I would not be comfortable paying that.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I heard that before last year, too. Niners said he was good. CMC said he’d be starting game 1.
It was all great news right up until pregame lineup announcements.
Hey, maybe he’s 100% healthy. I still want no part of him in FF. Which of course means he’ll have a 2200 APY season with 25 TD. lol
TheWinz
Footballguy
Every rep you take
And every cut you make
Every tackle you break, every step you take
I'll be watchin' you
Every single play
And every word you say
Every game you play, every night you stay
I'll be watchin' you
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
In a 12 team SF I was a little light at RB. I have Guerendo. Made a small trade for 5.02 and grabbed James.Isaac Guerendo
Statwise, was better than CMC last year
- Higher yards per carry
- Higher yards per reception
- Higher catch percentage
- 4 TD's to 0
But one stat jumped out - Isaac had 3 fumbles in only 99 touches. Can't keep that up and remain on the field.
Feels good. Feels like a couple lottery tickets that could hit.
TheWinz
Footballguy
They lost and gained a JordanIn a 12 team SF I was a little light at RB. I have Guerendo. Made a small trade for 5.02 and grabbed James.Isaac Guerendo
Statwise, was better than CMC last year
- Higher yards per carry
- Higher yards per reception
- Higher catch percentage
- 4 TD's to 0
But one stat jumped out - Isaac had 3 fumbles in only 99 touches. Can't keep that up and remain on the field.
Feels good. Feels like a couple lottery tickets that could hit.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Yeah, but he wasn't practicing last offseason either. He is now and reportedly looks good.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
The problem is that most don’t trust.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Christian McCaffrey, fully healthy, leads the way in 49ers' energetic first 2025 practice
SANTA CLARA — “Bouncy” might be best descriptor for the 49ers’ first open 11-on-11 practice of this 2025 season.
Christian McCaffrey, most notably, looked like his springy, pre-injury self. And as the 49ers try to put their nightmarish 2024 ordeal far into the rearview mirror, that may be the most significant development of all.
Thursday’s session saw McCaffrey catch a handful of passes from quarterback Brock Purdy and sprint toward the end zone on every single one of his carries — even after the play had been whistled dead.
I'll take any good news regarding CMC
SANTA CLARA — “Bouncy” might be best descriptor for the 49ers’ first open 11-on-11 practice of this 2025 season.
Christian McCaffrey, most notably, looked like his springy, pre-injury self. And as the 49ers try to put their nightmarish 2024 ordeal far into the rearview mirror, that may be the most significant development of all.
Thursday’s session saw McCaffrey catch a handful of passes from quarterback Brock Purdy and sprint toward the end zone on every single one of his carries — even after the play had been whistled dead.
I'll take any good news regarding CMC
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I just don't think he'll play every game this yr or even finish the season
TheWinz
Footballguy
People are scared of CMC, and for good reason. In the 7 years since a 50/50 touch split with Jonathan Stewart his rookie season, here are his fantasy finishes: 1, 1, 1, 2, 39, 54, 69
He's either going to finish as a top 2 RB in 2025, or not finish at all. I'm guessing a 40% chance of finishing the season. If I do draft CMC, I am making sure I draft his backup at all costs.
He's either going to finish as a top 2 RB in 2025, or not finish at all. I'm guessing a 40% chance of finishing the season. If I do draft CMC, I am making sure I draft his backup at all costs.
