RB Christian McCaffrey, SF (2 Viewers)

[mrfrood]

I do not think he looked slow and Seattle defense looked pretty solid. Looks like the keyed in on him. He had no running lanes it seemed like and was stuffed like a Thanksgiving turkey a few times. The opportunities were there and he put up close to 20 without a touchdown in half PPR. I'll take that.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

Interesting week with CMC.

1) This time last week. No concern. Choo Choo...let's ride.
2) Thursday brings a level of doom and gloom hysteria or a 'limited - calf' practice designation
3) 3 days later 31 touches, an amount exceeded 10 times all of 2024
4) Lots of concern over if he can hold up.

...let's say Thursday doesn't happen. What would the mood here be?

I have two shares of him (grabbed him late first in a redraft and fourth overall in a restricted keeper league - took him over Hampton) and my opinion of his value hasn't changed at all. I still view him as a second tier RB1 and late first/early second value in most formats.

So, yeah, content would be the mood.

Who do you have rated above him RB wise?

Assuming .5 ppr?

Bijan, Saquon, and Gibbs for sure (they're my top tier). I had CMC over Henry though could see an argument for Henry now. .

I had CMC and Jeanty similarly valued if that is helpful.

In short, I have:

Tier one: Bijan, Saquon, Gibbs (that's my order, but could see an argument for a different order)
Tier two: CMC, Henry, Jeanty (again, I could see any order here)
Tier three: Achane, Taylor, Chase Brown, Jacobs in some order (though I do have Achane top of the tier)

Week one didn't change this for me at all except I may take Henry over CMC now but they remain in the same tier.

I guess the question I have is if one game were enough to change your view of Henry in terms of what tier, why not CMC or Gibbs for that matter?

 

[Zow]

Interesting week with CMC.

1) This time last week. No concern. Choo Choo...let's ride.
2) Thursday brings a level of doom and gloom hysteria or a 'limited - calf' practice designation
3) 3 days later 31 touches, an amount exceeded 10 times all of 2024
4) Lots of concern over if he can hold up.

...let's say Thursday doesn't happen. What would the mood here be?

I have two shares of him (grabbed him late first in a redraft and fourth overall in a restricted keeper league - took him over Hampton) and my opinion of his value hasn't changed at all. I still view him as a second tier RB1 and late first/early second value in most formats.

So, yeah, content would be the mood.

Who do you have rated above him RB wise?

Assuming .5 ppr?

Bijan, Saquon, and Gibbs for sure (they're my top tier). I had CMC over Henry though could see an argument for Henry now. .

I had CMC and Jeanty similarly valued if that is helpful.

In short, I have:

Tier one: Bijan, Saquon, Gibbs (that's my order, but could see an argument for a different order)
Tier two: CMC, Henry, Jeanty (again, I could see any order here)
Tier three: Achane, Taylor, Chase Brown, Jacobs in some order (though I do have Achane top of the tier)

Week one didn't change this for me at all except I may take Henry over CMC now but they remain in the same tier.

I guess the question I have is if one game were enough to change your view of Henry in terms of what tier, why not CMC or Gibbs for that matter?

My view on their tiers hasn't changed. Just the order inside the respective tiers (though my ranking of Gibbs hasn't changed at all as him was in RB3 in the first tier).

 

[pollardsvision]

Did he look slow to anyone else? Or was it mostly just the line being bad and not giving him much to work with?

Still did great, especially if not at 100% due to the leg thing. Kinda with Chaka that I don't think projecting every week usage at this weeks level will bode well for his longevity, but people who drafted him with confidence this summer were certainly rewarded week 1. He just didn't look like a healthy CMC to me. The most explosive play IMO was when he got the power boost from a player running into his back haha.

He looked good especially catching the ball. Seattle game planned to take him away running the ball.

I don't think people realize yet that Seattle is a top-5 NFL defense. Mike McDonald has absolutely been as advertised on that side of the ball.

ETA: Also, it was a weird week for RB efficiency. Henry and I guess Achane, were the only RBs taken in the 1st 2 rounds of fantasy drafts who topped 4 yards per carry.

And these two teams just know each other so well.
Heck, the 2 opposing offensive coordinators are brothers.

No surprise that this was an offensive slog.

 

[Uncle Leo]

Not the same player from his heyday, but finds a way to get us 24 points. Thank you CMC.

 

[ponchsox]

All of these injuries and CMC is the model of health

 

[fred_1_15301]

Not the same player from his heyday, but finds a way to get us 24 points. Thank you CMC.

Yeah from a fantasy perspective he’s as good as ever. Complete steal!

 

[Wingnut]

Christian McCaffrey leads NFL with 21 first downs rushing and receiving. The 7 per game average is just behind the 7.1 he averaged in 2023 when he won OPOY

https://x.com/JoshDubowAP/status/1969999615937462321?t=0sXqmeMWAj4h_2_jxX_tdQ&s=19

 

[TampaMike19]

Carrying the team. Literally.

Ride em til the wheels fall off but he seems healthy

 

[Wingnut]

Ride em til the wheels fall off

And we all know they're gonna fall off at some point this season.

 

[togo]

I pretty happy with him so far but some touchdowns would be nice.
2nd and 1 at the goal line and they threw. Vultured TD. Argghhh!

 

[King of the Jungle]

I pretty happy with him so far but some touchdowns would be nice.
2nd and 1 at the goal line and they threw. Vultured TD. Argghhh!

That would have won me my game in one league…argghhh is right!

 

[VikingFrog]

I pretty happy with him so far but some touchdowns would be nice.
2nd and 1 at the goal line and they threw. Vultured TD. Argghhh!

That would have won me my game in one league…argghhh is right!

To be fair to that play call, on the previous drive that they got stopped on 4th down, they gave it to him 3 times in a row within the 3 yard line.

 

[Doubles]

Christian McCaffrey leads NFL with 21 first downs rushing and receiving. The 7 per game average is just behind the 7.1 he averaged in 2023 when he won OPOY

https://x.com/JoshDubowAP/status/1969999615937462321?t=0sXqmeMWAj4h_2_jxX_tdQ&s=19

This is why I drafted him second overall in my .5ppr/.5ppfd league. Also had him in 2023 and got a ring. Just amazing (for now).

 

[Boone22]

It’s funny how some people disappear from this thread when he starts putting up good numbers. Yes I get it. He’s got health concerns but scroll back a few pages and look at all the doom and gloom. Can he keep this up all season? I have no idea but I bet if he doesn’t some people will come back out the woodwork to say “I told you so! He’s cooked!” But they aren’t around now.

As a Dynasty owner I laughed to myself every time I read someone saying to sell him for whatever you could get for him. To me he’s EXACTLY the type of guy I will ride until the wheels fall off. Which quite honestly could be tomorrow but at least I didn’t give him away for a 2nd round pick before the season started because he sat out a few practices.

 

[travdogg]

It’s funny how some people disappear from this thread when he starts putting up good numbers. Yes I get it. He’s got health concerns but scroll back a few pages and look at all the doom and gloom. Can he keep this up all season? I have no idea but I bet if he doesn’t some people will come back out the woodwork to say “I told you so! He’s cooked!” But they aren’t around now.

As a Dynasty owner I laughed to myself every time I read someone saying to sell him for whatever you could get for him. To me he’s EXACTLY the type of guy I will ride until the wheels fall off. Which quite honestly could be tomorrow but at least I didn’t give him away for a 2nd round pick before the season started because he sat out a few practices.

The funny thing is, this is closer to his floor than his ceiling. He's as good a TD scorer as there is in the NFL, and he has 1 through 3 games. Those are gonna come in bunches.

 

[Chaka]

And he's doing this without his QB, TE and two of their three top WRs.

It really is impressive.

 

[Pietaster2]

And he's doing this without his QB, TE and two of their three top WRs.

It really is impressive.

All that, and SF is still 3-0. CMC deserves to be an MVP candidate if he can keep this up.

 

[Dizzy]

And he's doing this without his QB, TE and two of their three top WRs.

It really is impressive.

All that, and SF is still 3-0. CMC deserves to be an MVP candidate if he can keep this up.

Yeah, it's pretty down to CMC and Daniel Jones for league MVP at this point.

 

[ShamrockPride]

And he's doing this without his QB, TE and two of their three top WRs.

It really is impressive.

All that, and SF is still 3-0. CMC deserves to be an MVP candidate if he can keep this up.

Yeah, it's pretty down to CMC and Daniel Jones for league MVP at this point.

Certainly a sign we're in the end times.

 

[ffmail4me]

Why anyone would ever doubt him at this point is beyond my understanding. He really is the closest thing to LT since LT. I hope he keeps it up!

 

[Proteus]

Not that I think McCaffrey is ever out of the woods for injury--who is?--but I'm beginning to wonder if rostering Brian Robinson is really worth it.

In other words, if McCaffrey were to miss time, what % of his usage and points would Robinson yield? I can't imagine it being much more than 50.

If I'm right . . . then Robinson is little more than a roster clogger and a stop gap for a potential hemorrhage that is either going to kill you--or not--without him.

 

[dipandglide]

I saw a stat that he's averaging more PPG than Barkley on just receptions

People quickly forgot how good this guy is. CMC is RB1 when healthy. It's crazy that people were selling for guys like Chase Brown this offseason

 

[ponchsox]

Looking like a steal at the end of the first round, especially with all of the WR busts.

 

[Football Jones]

CMC is lighting up PPR leagues. That said, he's lost a lot as a ballcarrier. I was really surprised they let Mason go. He's a better pure runner than CMC and it's not particularly close. That would've been a helluva NFL RBBC.

To me, CMC looks like regression waiting to happen with all the air production these first 3 weeks. Teams will adjust at some point. In the meantime, ride it for all it's worth, lol.

 

[Chaka]

CMC is lighting up PPR leagues. That said, he's lost a lot as a ballcarrier. I was really surprised they let Mason go. He's a better pure runner than CMC and it's not particularly close. That would've been a helluva NFL RBBC.

To me, CMC looks like regression waiting to happen with all the air production the first 3 weeks. Teams will adjust at some point. In the meantime, ride it for all it's worth, lol.

Adjust? I can't imagine the Cardinals or Saints DCs put more than 15% emphasis on anyone other than CMC.

 

[Football Jones]

CMC is lighting up PPR leagues. That said, he's lost a lot as a ballcarrier. I was really surprised they let Mason go. He's a better pure runner than CMC and it's not particularly close. That would've been a helluva NFL RBBC.

To me, CMC looks like regression waiting to happen with all the air production the first 3 weeks. Teams will adjust at some point. In the meantime, ride it for all it's worth, lol.

Adjust? I can't imagine the Cardinals or Saints DCs put more than 15% emphasis on anyone other than CMC.

I don't know how much emphasis they put on CMC, but he's had 25 catches on 32 targets in 3 games, lol. With that kind of trend, it's not hard to understand why DCs would put even more focus on stopping CMC's receiving production.

That kind of pace is typically going to regress even without defenses putting a lot of emphasis on it. It's certainly reasonable to say it'll regress over time. As far as the running game, CMC just doesn't have the juice he once did. It happens to everyone.

I'd be more confident in him keeping up this pace with some rushing production. CMC is still obviously a pretty good player, so assuming health, he's got a chance to have a strong season if he can get going on the ground.

 

[Chaka]

CMC is lighting up PPR leagues. That said, he's lost a lot as a ballcarrier. I was really surprised they let Mason go. He's a better pure runner than CMC and it's not particularly close. That would've been a helluva NFL RBBC.

To me, CMC looks like regression waiting to happen with all the air production the first 3 weeks. Teams will adjust at some point. In the meantime, ride it for all it's worth, lol.

Adjust? I can't imagine the Cardinals or Saints DCs put more than 15% emphasis on anyone other than CMC.

I don't know how much emphasis they put on CMC, but he's had 25 catches on 32 targets in 3 games, lol. With that kind of trend, it's not hard to understand why DCs would put even more focus on stopping CMC's receiving production.

That kind of pace is typically going to regress even without defenses putting a lot of emphasis on it. It's certainly reasonable to say it'll regress over time. As far as the running game, CMC just doesn't have the juice he once did. It happens to everyone.

I'd be more confident in him keeping up this pace with some rushing production. CMC is still obviously a pretty good player, so assuming health, he's got a chance to have a strong season if he can get going on the ground.

I agree11 targets a game absolutely has to regress but, IMO it will happen most likely because the return to health of guys like Jauan, Kittle and, eventually Aiyuk. But that just opens up other opportunities for CMC.

Teams are selling out to stop him right now, when Purdy & Kittle are back and Jauan healthy I think that will change.

 

[Football Jones]

CMC is lighting up PPR leagues. That said, he's lost a lot as a ballcarrier. I was really surprised they let Mason go. He's a better pure runner than CMC and it's not particularly close. That would've been a helluva NFL RBBC.

To me, CMC looks like regression waiting to happen with all the air production the first 3 weeks. Teams will adjust at some point. In the meantime, ride it for all it's worth, lol.

Adjust? I can't imagine the Cardinals or Saints DCs put more than 15% emphasis on anyone other than CMC.

I don't know how much emphasis they put on CMC, but he's had 25 catches on 32 targets in 3 games, lol. With that kind of trend, it's not hard to understand why DCs would put even more focus on stopping CMC's receiving production.

That kind of pace is typically going to regress even without defenses putting a lot of emphasis on it. It's certainly reasonable to say it'll regress over time. As far as the running game, CMC just doesn't have the juice he once did. It happens to everyone.

I'd be more confident in him keeping up this pace with some rushing production. CMC is still obviously a pretty good player, so assuming health, he's got a chance to have a strong season if he can get going on the ground.

I agree11 targets a game absolutely has to regress but, IMO it will happen most likely because the return to health of guys like Jauan, Kittle and, eventually Aiyuk. But that just opens up other opportunities for CMC.

Teams are selling out to stop him right now, when Purdy & Kittle are back and Jauan healthy I think that will change.

Yeah, I think getting their guys back could open up the running game.

 

[ShamrockPride]

People quickly forgot how good this guy is. CMC is RB1 when healthy. It's crazy that people were selling for guys like Chase Brown this offseason

Literally nobody did this.

 

[dblock05]

This thread has gone to “no way he lasts more than a few games” to “he can’t do this forever”

 

[dipandglide]

People quickly forgot how good this guy is. CMC is RB1 when healthy. It's crazy that people were selling for guys like Chase Brown this offseason

Literally nobody did this.

Sarcasm? CMC was being traded for pennies the last twelve months and only started gaining steam during training camp

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I’m resisting posting in here simply to avoid jinxing him. He’s about all the 49ers have left.

 

[the spanker]

I’m resisting posting in here simply to avoid jinxing him. He’s about all the 49ers have left.

And yet you did. If something happens now we know why.

 

[dkp993]

It was/is always a binary proposition. If he plays he’s a league winner or he gets injured and kills your team. There is no middle ground and everyone knew this.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I’m resisting posting in here simply to avoid jinxing him. He’s about all the 49ers have left.

And yet you did. If something happens now we know why.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Looking like a steal at the end of the first round, especially with all of the WR busts.

I dunno - I took ARSB in a couple of redrafts and he’s delivered way more value.

JT is the legit SOD going in the mid-2nd though.

 

[Faust]

Underdog NFL
RBs with the most games with 10+ catches in NFL history:

12 — Christian McCaffrey
11
10
9
8
7 — Alvin Kamara, Austin Ekeler
6 — LaDainian Tomlinson, Larry Centers

https://x.com/underdognfl/status/1970644930738700782?s=61

 

[Uncle Leo]

There he is…love this dude.

 

[dipandglide]

Looking like a steal at the end of the first round, especially with all of the WR busts.

I dunno - I took ARSB in a couple of redrafts and he’s delivered way more value.

JT is the legit SOD going in the mid-2nd though.

Way more value? CMC is averaging more PPR points than both of them and isn't even scoring a lot of TDs

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Looking like a steal at the end of the first round, especially with all of the WR busts.

I dunno - I took ARSB in a couple of redrafts and he’s delivered way more value.

JT is the legit SOD going in the mid-2nd though.

Way more value? CMC is averaging more PPR points than both of them and isn't even scoring a lot of TDs

I don’t have to hold my breath every game, every touch. That’s priceless.

Also I posted this prior to this week’s game and I’m skeptical that was true at the time I posted it.

 

[drummer]

CMC won't last the season. He'll be back on IR.

 

[Doubles]

CMC won't last the season. He'll be back on IR.

One week these haters will be right. But you have to keep at it. Wake up every Sunday and drill it in to us. Don’t count the weeks you’re wrong. When it happens, that’s when it counts. Don’t worry about the production along the way. Worry about maybe being right some day in the future.

 

[Chaka]

CMC won't last the season. He'll be back on IR.

One week these haters will be right. But you have to keep at it. Wake up every Sunday and drill it in to us. Don’t count the weeks you’re wrong. When it happens, that’s when it counts. Don’t worry about the production along the way. Worry about maybe being right some day in the future.

Have you met drummer?

 

[Doubles]

CMC won't last the season. He'll be back on IR.

One week these haters will be right. But you have to keep at it. Wake up every Sunday and drill it in to us. Don’t count the weeks you’re wrong. When it happens, that’s when it counts. Don’t worry about the production along the way. Worry about maybe being right some day in the future.

Have you met drummer?

Nah. Did I miss obvious sarcasm?

 

[Chaka]

CMC won't last the season. He'll be back on IR.

One week these haters will be right. But you have to keep at it. Wake up every Sunday and drill it in to us. Don’t count the weeks you’re wrong. When it happens, that’s when it counts. Don’t worry about the production along the way. Worry about maybe being right some day in the future.

Have you met drummer?

Nah. Did I miss obvious sarcasm?

Not sarcasm, that kind of posting is kinda his M.O.

He can bring good takes when he wants to but, generally he likes to come in and make outrageous takes and hopes someone will bite.

It can be entertaining but, generally it won't go anywhere meaningful.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

CMC won't last the season. He'll be back on IR.

This isn’t productive or at all helpful to anyone.

 

[ponchsox]

CMC won't last the season. He'll be back on IR.

Haters can suck it, I’m 4-0 with CMC

 

[dipandglide]

Looking like a steal at the end of the first round, especially with all of the WR busts.

I dunno - I took ARSB in a couple of redrafts and he’s delivered way more value.

JT is the legit SOD going in the mid-2nd though.

Way more value? CMC is averaging more PPR points than both of them and isn't even scoring a lot of TDs

I don’t have to hold my breath every game, every touch. That’s priceless.

Also I posted this prior to this week’s game and I’m skeptical that was true at the time I posted it.

"Way more value" is a stretch. That was my point.

Everyone knows CMC is risky. There's a reason CMC was cheap in dynasty and during most of the offseason in redraft. A lot of people forgot he's a league winner when he plays. I hope he continues to prove the haters wrong!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Looking like a steal at the end of the first round, especially with all of the WR busts.

I dunno - I took ARSB in a couple of redrafts and he’s delivered way more value.

JT is the legit SOD going in the mid-2nd though.

Way more value? CMC is averaging more PPR points than both of them and isn't even scoring a lot of TDs

I don’t have to hold my breath every game, every touch. That’s priceless.

Also I posted this prior to this week’s game and I’m skeptical that was true at the time I posted it.

"Way more value" is a stretch. That was my point.

Everyone knows CMC is risky. There's a reason CMC was cheap in dynasty and during most of the offseason in redraft. A lot of people forgot he's a league winner when he plays. I hope he continues to prove the haters wrong!

Fine, whatever. It’s not a (Tyreek) hill I need to die on. At the time I posted they both had exactly 72 points. But again, I don’t have to hold my breath every game/tackle. That’s why imo he has more value. Stress has a cost.

I haven’t forgotten anything, and I’m not a “hater”, as I’m a 49ers fan.