RB D’Andre Swift, CHI (2 Viewers)

[ATB]

How would you value Swift this year in comparison to the somewhat unknown product in Jonathan Brooks?

I'll take Swift as we know he is the starting RB week 1 and I can start him in my line-up. Do I like Brooks? For sure, especially in dynasty but in redraft leagues unless I get him cheap I'm not sure I will own any shares.

Two big concerns with Brooks and it isn't talent: 1 - we don't truly know when he will be on the starting roster. Then we don't know what type of time share it will be and how slowly they will get him back into game shape. Most RBs coming off this injury are eased in.
2 - he is a rookie. With this alone (no injury) he is behind Hubbard who had some good games last year. Even when Brooks is healthy it might be a time share.

So for these reasons I would gladly draft Swift and just ride with him as my RB2 or flex start.

Thanks for all that. I ask because in redraft I snagged Brooks with the 83rd pick in a 12 team PPR with keepers.

Was pretty stoked to just put him in my IR but then I waited too long on TE and ended up with Hockenson as well, so two IR guys but only one IR spot.

Then after the draft our resident Panthers fan offered me Swift for Brooks straight up. I said no, I don't mind holding him half the year, so the guy offered to add Nabers into the trade for Tank Dell.

So it would be Swift/Nabers for Brooks/T.Dell... Still, I said no, mostly because I believe in Tank Dell and I also drafted Marvin Harrison Jr. and Xavier Worthy, so adding Nabers to the mix would add a lot of risk in regards to rookies.

Anyway, I say all that to say, now I'm waffling on whether that was the right call. And I think that offer is still on the table so I'm trying to do my due diligence in terms of comparing these players and their situations.

I'm starting to think that it's possible Swift has the better year as Brooks is just an entirely unknown quantity, at this point. And Nabers could easily do better than Tank Dell, though it's also entirely possible we're looking back at the Texans WRs this year and smacking our foreheads at not realizing that Tank Dell is one of the top 10 most talented receivers in the league.

 

[Faust]

@32BeatWriters
"But it was impossible not to see why the Bears prioritized D’Andre Swift in free agency. The quickness and agility were notable but not surprising. The fluidity with which he has caught passes has been an eye-opening part of training camp."

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[massraider]

So it would be Swift/Nabers for Brooks/T.Dell

I dream someone would offer me this.

 

[bolldpt]

So it would be Swift/Nabers for Brooks/T.Dell

I dream someone would offer me this.

Ya I think I would have pulled the trigger on that.

 

[FantasyMC]

So it would be Swift/Nabers for Brooks/T.Dell

I dream someone would offer me this.

Ya I think I would have pulled the trigger on that.

Same here

 

[ATB]

So it would be Swift/Nabers for Brooks/T.Dell

I dream someone would offer me this.

Ya I think I would have pulled the trigger on that.

Same here

Ended up pulling the trigger on this. Was able to add Bowers into the deal as well.

got Swift/Nabers/Bowers
for Brooks/Dell/McGlaughlin

Overall pretty happy with the deal. Thanks for slapping some sense into me.

 

[Payne]

So it would be Swift/Nabers for Brooks/T.Dell

I dream someone would offer me this.

Ya I think I would have pulled the trigger on that.

Same here

Ended up pulling the trigger on this. Was able to add Bowers into the deal as well.

got Swift/Nabers/Bowers
for Brooks/Dell/McGlaughlin

Overall pretty happy with the deal. Thanks for slapping some sense into me.

This is flat out robbery.

 

[ATB]

So it would be Swift/Nabers for Brooks/T.Dell

I dream someone would offer me this.

Ya I think I would have pulled the trigger on that.

Same here

Ended up pulling the trigger on this. Was able to add Bowers into the deal as well.

got Swift/Nabers/Bowers
for Brooks/Dell/McGlaughlin

Overall pretty happy with the deal. Thanks for slapping some sense into me.

This is flat out robbery.

I'm kinda shocked. He's a Panthers fan so I think he was blinded by the potential of Brooks. He's usually a hard guy to trade with.

 

[King of the Jungle]

So it would be Swift/Nabers for Brooks/T.Dell

I dream someone would offer me this.

Ya I think I would have pulled the trigger on that.

Same here

Ended up pulling the trigger on this. Was able to add Bowers into the deal as well.

got Swift/Nabers/Bowers
for Brooks/Dell/McGlaughlin

Overall pretty happy with the deal. Thanks for slapping some sense into me.

This is flat out robbery.

I'm kinda shocked. He's a Panthers fan so I think he was blinded by the potential of Brooks. He's usually a hard guy to trade with.

He is going to puke every week after watching what he gave up with Nabers and Bowers. It might be 8-10 years of puking. Adding Bowers because of McGlaughlin?….bizarre

 

[Faust]

The Coachspeak Index
#Bears HC Matt Eberflus on why they targeted D’Andre Swift in free agency:

“We wanted a home run threat in there, we wanted to have a weapon back back there that can do a lot of things”

on whether the Bears are shifting away from RBBC:

“Yeah, I think you have to shift a little bit, philosophy-wise, because you gear it towards the talent, you gear it towards what’s there, in terms of what they can do and what they do well.”

Eberflus has a 50% reliability rating on depth chart coachspeak (low sample size)

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[rodalive]

So it would be Swift/Nabers for Brooks/T.Dell

I dream someone would offer me this.

Ya I think I would have pulled the trigger on that.

Same here

Ended up pulling the trigger on this. Was able to add Bowers into the deal as well.

got Swift/Nabers/Bowers
for Brooks/Dell/McGlaughlin

Overall pretty happy with the deal. Thanks for slapping some sense into me.

This is flat out robbery.

I'm kinda shocked. He's a Panthers fan so I think he was blinded by the potential of Brooks. He's usually a hard guy to trade with.

He is going to puke every week after watching what he gave up with Nabers and Bowers. It might be 8-10 years of puking. Adding Bowers because of McGlaughlin?….bizarre

McGlaughlin will not score a single fantasy point in their career so it really tilts this trade

 

[eighsse2]

Why are three different people spelling McLaughlin with a G?

 

[ATB]

So it would be Swift/Nabers for Brooks/T.Dell

I dream someone would offer me this.

Ya I think I would have pulled the trigger on that.

Same here

Ended up pulling the trigger on this. Was able to add Bowers into the deal as well.

got Swift/Nabers/Bowers
for Brooks/Dell/McGlaughlin

Overall pretty happy with the deal. Thanks for slapping some sense into me.

This is flat out robbery.

I'm kinda shocked. He's a Panthers fan so I think he was blinded by the potential of Brooks. He's usually a hard guy to trade with.

He is going to puke every week after watching what he gave up with Nabers and Bowers. It might be 8-10 years of puking. Adding Bowers because of McGlaughlin?….bizarre

Well, technically it was adding Bowers to get the trade done as I had said no a few times already. I floated the idea of adding Bowers for McLaughlin and he went for it. Otherwise, from his perspective, he wasn't getting Brooks.

 

[JohnnyU]

Another year and another year with the same conversations about Swift. Going into his fifth year and to me hasn't lived up to his hype over the years. He is coming off his first 1000 yard rushing season however. He used to have the receiving upside, but that dipped last year. The way I look at Swift is that he's a good player, but not a really good player and hasn't lived up to expectations. That's not saying he won't be useful, especially coming off his first 1K rushing season, and if he can regain some of that receiving upside.

 

[eighsse2]

I may have been very, very wrong about this guy.

 

[Chaka]

I may have been very, very wrong about this guy.

If he was going to do something you'd have thought this was going to be the game.

 

[Houston turmOiler]

I may have been very, very wrong about this guy.

Never had him before this year. Now I know why

 

[TLEF316]

Yeah, this was a BAD draft pick.

 

[BassNBrew]

May have to cut him for the guy I dropped last week Johnson.

 

[Houston turmOiler]

Now I understand what people mean by "rage dropping" a player. I'd take a case of beer for Swift or Andrews... but sadly, it wouldn't be good beer.

 

[Chaka]

I may have been very, very wrong about this guy.

Never had him before this year. Now I know why

I stacked him and Jamaal in 2022 to great success. 2,070 yards, 60 receptions and 25 TDs.

IIRC it worked out to having two low end RB 1s for very low draft capital.

But, outside that year he's also been far more potential than performance during his career.

 

[zamboni]

Remember when the knock on him was that he wasn’t consistent enough. Woof

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[King of the Jungle]

Talked myself into drafting him based on his year end totals last year and looks like a wasted pick. He is probably droppable at this point.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Talked myself into drafting him based on his year end totals last year and looks like a wasted pick. He is probably droppable at this point.

Did it a week ago. Zero regrets.

 

[ATB]

How did the Bears pay this guy so much money? They didn't even wait in free agency and get stuck with him. They went out and snagged him like he was their first choice of all free agents. Paid him like a king. And now he's running into guys like a beach ball into a wall.

He sucks.

 

[Payne]

Line is garbage

 

[travdogg]

Line is garbage

Swift also isn't a good runner. This is what happens when a bad runner doesn't have an elite OL.

Hated so much that the Bears signed him instead of Pollard, a vastly better player in my opinion, or just ignored RB and rolled with Herbert/Roschon and spent that money on OL or DL.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Line is garbage

Line is garbage which does not match Swift’s inadequate vision. He is a playmaker if you can have a lane or scheme him into space. He is not a back who is going to make a bad oline look good.

 

[zamboni]

Line is garbage

Line is garbage which does not match Swift’s inadequate vision. He is a playmaker if you can have a lane or scheme him into space. He is not a back who is going to make a bad oline look good.

I think that's fair - it's probably a bit of each. The OL is assuredly not doing him any favors, but good RBs can still often make something out of nothing and that's not his skill set.

 

[Faust]

Ian Hartitz
D'Andre Swift has 37 carries this season.

Yards gained on each from least to most:
-12, -4, -4, -4, -3, -3, -2, -1, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 6, 6, 6, 7, 20

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[Chaka]

Ian Hartitz
D'Andre Swift has 37 carries this season.

Yards gained on each from least to most:
-12, -4, -4, -4, -3, -3, -2, -1, -1, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 6, 6, 6, 7, 20

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Take it to the onslaught thread, pal.

 

[Faust]

Heisenbear
This is hilarious

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Adam Levitan
One of the very first moves of 2024 free agency was #Bears sign D'Andre Swift. They just couldn't wait, had to have him for 3 years, $24M.

Even though they already had Khalil Herbert, Roschon Johnson on the roster. Was always so strange.

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[King of the Jungle]

Heisenbear
This is hilarious

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Adam Levitan
One of the very first moves of 2024 free agency was #Bears sign D'Andre Swift. They just couldn't wait, had to have him for 3 years, $24M.

Even though they already had Khalil Herbert, Roschon Johnson on the roster. Was always so strange.

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There is that incredible vision on display.

 

[FarFromHome]

He had 3 choices on that run and took the only one that meant zero yards. Ha ha. Even if he ran directly into the defender his momentum would have gained yards. That was embarrassing.

 

[Birdie048]

That clip is what the Laughing Emoji was designed for!

 

[Faust]

Bears RB D'Andre Swift, OC Shane Waldron look to improve

 

[eighsse2]

Bears RB D'Andre Swift, OC Shane Waldron look to improve

Oh, they do!? Good news!!

 

[Chaka]

Bears RB D'Andre Swift, OC Shane Waldron look to improve

Oh, they do!? Good news!!

Step 1: Run away from defenders...away.

 

[jtd13]

Bears RB D'Andre Swift, OC Shane Waldron look to improve

This seems like a good first step

 

[TheWinz]

Just think - through half a season last year, he was RB5!

 

[Chaka]

Just think - through half a season last year, he was RB5!

His entire season was predicated by two games. He was a much player in Detroit than Philadelphia. But we all got t glamored by his first two starts in Phili that we sort of forgave the 14 games.

 

[menobrown]

Breakout game, used the way you hoped he'd be used but I find myself vacillating between being high upset he was on a ton of my benches in some key leagues or happy that he's alive and viable going forward.

 

[TLEF316]

Lol. Sat him today.

 

[Houston turmOiler]

Finally gave him away the other day after sitting through three crap performances. I'm sure Mark Andrews will go off tonight now too. I should have retired from fantasy football last year. Ugh.

 

[barackdhouse]

oh fun!

 

[jtd13]

Bears RB D'Andre Swift, OC Shane Waldron look to improve

This seems like a good first step

Holy crap, it worked!

 

[BoltNlava]

on my bench...

 

[Snotbubbles]

This is what is called the Swift Deadcat Bounce. His fantasy owners will spend the next month hoping for another one of these games.

 

[Uncle Leo]

He was dropped and I wanted nothing to do with him. Someone picked him up and started him. Pure luck!

 

[fred_1_15301]

Next week we will all go back to starting him and he will get us 5-6 points.