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Feelin' pretty good about how that worked out. Big sigh of relief, frankly.How are my Achane brethren feeling right now.
McDaniel loves Mostert and he will be back. However, I think his role will be reduced but he will frustrate Achane owners because he will be the goal line back. It was amazing how intent McDaniel was to pound Mostert at the goal line. He did get a lot of TDs but not sure it was anything Achane or Wilson wouldn’t have done with the same opportunity. Don’t think it was special skill set.Echoing my earlier notion of hoping Mostert hits a wall this off season. Achane has the potential to be RB1 if he gets the majority of touches and stays healthy (A big if).
Mostert took his game to another level this year, not sure if he can keep it up next year at age 32, assuming he stays. Brooks will be here and one of Wilson or Mostert, depending on $$. Jeff Wilson could be a short yardage back, he has power, but he's not as good as Mostert who has speed and vision to take it outside or cutback on short yardage and other plays.McDaniel loves Mostert and he will be back. However, I think his role will be reduced but he will frustrate Achane owners because he will be the goal line back. It was amazing how intent McDaniel was to pound Mostert at the goal line. He did get a lot of TDs but not sure it was anything Achane or Wilson wouldn’t have done with the same opportunity. Don’t think it was special skill set.
I can keep him for $12 in my $250-cap keep-4 auction league. Because of that, I won’t feel the need to grab him in the first round of redrafts. But most redraft leagues will probably have at least one person who covets him and doesn’t have any shares.His draft position will be interesting to monitor for next year. I'm not the guy to take him in the 1st but every draft will have one owner who will. His upside is record breaking. My problem is his floor is he plays 4 games.
Opportunity is definitely the question.His draft position will be interesting to monitor for next year. I'm not the guy to take him in the 1st but every draft will have one owner who will. His upside is record breaking. My problem is his floor is he plays 4 games.
Next Gen Stats
De'Von Achane was traveling 14.83 mph when he crossed the line of scrimmage on his 25-yard TD run (17.67 mph top speed).
Achane averages the fastest speed at the LOS among running backs with 50+ carries this season (12.22 mph).
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Ian Hartitz
RB most yards per carry in a single season in NFL history (min. 100 carries)
1. De'Von Achane (7.8)
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Wow - just hope it doesn’t sap him of any speed.
Adam Levitan
Don't like to say anything bad about De'Von Achane as he showed real ability to break the bounds of reality.
But not the cleanest offseason for Achane volume as #Dolphins:
1. Signed Raheem Mostert to a $9M extension
2. Traded up in Round 4 to select RB Jaylen Wright
Some good points, I'd like to offer another POVI think Achane owners have reason to be worried.
Just about everyone knew that Achane was never going to be a bell cow, but it's a bit alarming that the Dolphins aggressively went after Wright (sending a 2025 3rd round draft pick, which is what they used on Achane himself last year). It's not like Wright fell into their laps, but rather than they clearly wanted him and didn't want to wait until next year to address the position.
Even with the added muscle to his frame, it's unlikely now that Achane will be able to show what he can do with a larger workload. He may be the most talented of the bunch, but that won't necessarily translate into more touches - have to imagine that McDaniel will design some plays for Wright as well. Great for the Dolphins' run game, but fantasy owners of all three may be having some weekly frustration.
Also have to think that Achane won't be able to maintain his insane efficiency from last year (997 yards from scrimmage on 130 touches, or 7.7 yards per touch).
As Levitan said a few posts ago, not a good offseason for Achane.
I don't think we know that. McDaniel likes to mix and match his players, which is a big part of why he is such a dynamic offensive mind.Yeah I'm not seeing Wright as a downgrade for Achane.
He's the Mostert contingency
Well of course we don't know it mate, but given his age, you have to think that the long term optimistic outlook for Wright is to assume the role Mostert should retain next season.I don't think we know that.
Not all running backs fit all offensive systems. If you've got a Bijan type, you can do whatever you want, he's talented enough to do whatever is needed. Wright is a gap scheme, one cut, speed merchant. He's almost certainly not a 3 down workhorse, more a specific role player. In the right system a very useful piece to have potentially. I'm not sure he fits the sort of role the Cowboys like to give their main RB and them drafting him to be something he isn't probably wouldn't have been a smart move.Considering that Dallas, who had a glaring need at RB, passed over him 3 or 4 times, its hard to view Wright as a major threat to Achane, who proved himself to be one of the most lethal RBs in football last year. If Wright is as good as some are suggesting, why didn’t Dallas, or any other team grab him before Miami?
Great points that also underscore my point, which is that Wright isn’t the do-it-all type of back that’s going to force Achane off the field. If he were, a team like Dallas would’ve been all over him. That they weren’t suggests Achane owners shouldn’t be overly concerned about Wright impacting his role, one he excelled at as a rookie.Not all running backs fit all offensive systems. If you've got a Bijan type, you can do whatever you want, he's talented enough to do whatever is needed. Wright is a gap scheme, one cut, speed merchant. He's almost certainly not a 3 down workhorse, more a specific role player. In the right system a very useful piece to have potentially. I'm not sure he fits the sort of role the Cowboys like to give their main RB and them drafting him to be something he isn't probably wouldn't have been a smart move.Considering that Dallas, who had a glaring need at RB, passed over him 3 or 4 times, its hard to view Wright as a major threat to Achane, who proved himself to be one of the most lethal RBs in football last year. If Wright is as good as some are suggesting, why didn’t Dallas, or any other team grab him before Miami?
Skillsets matter at RB now. It isn't just 'he's a good running back therefore he'll be productive'. Most teams have defined roles for specific schemes and situations. People like the idea of Jaylen Wright because one of his main pre draft comparisons was Raheem Mostert and scouting reports suggested that if he landed with a team that intended to use him that way he could be a valuable producer. He landed with a team that will attempt to utilize his best traits. I'm not really interested on who passed on him or where he didn't end up. He did end up somewhere that can theoretically get more than a decent tune out of him.
It's really not dissimilar to Achane last season. Would Achane have been more productive last year if he ended up on say, the Bears and they attempted to make him their workhorse? Highly unlikely I think.
For players of this ilk, they are better served with 8-14 well designed touches rather than 20+ general rushes.
Frankly, Dallas has cap problems that limit their ability to solve other roster gaps, other than through the draft. They simply couldn’t justify spending a pick early enough to select Wright given their other glaring needs and cap limitations.Considering that Dallas, who had a glaring need at RB, passed over him 3 or 4 times, its hard to view Wright as a major threat to Achane, who proved himself to be one of the most lethal RBs in football last year. If Wright is as good as some are suggesting, why didn’t Dallas, or any other team grab him before Miami?
Had Achane not missed significant time, he would’ve likely been in the running for Offensive Rookie of the Year. He is not supposed to be a workhorse, I’d be surprised if anyone thought he was. He’s best used strategically in a timeshare with another RB who can take the pounding.
As long as Achane gets the same kind of work he did in 2023, owners shouldn’t care how Mostert and/or Wright factor into the mix. If anything, Achane owners should embrace the idea of limiting his touches to an extent so that he can be available all season long.
Dallas could create loads of cap space if they chose to, not really an issue.Frankly, Dallas has cap problems that limit their ability to solve other roster gaps, other than through the draft. They simply couldn’t justify spending a pick early enough to select Wright given their other glaring needs and cap limitations.Considering that Dallas, who had a glaring need at RB, passed over him 3 or 4 times, its hard to view Wright as a major threat to Achane, who proved himself to be one of the most lethal RBs in football last year. If Wright is as good as some are suggesting, why didn’t Dallas, or any other team grab him before Miami?
Had Achane not missed significant time, he would’ve likely been in the running for Offensive Rookie of the Year. He is not supposed to be a workhorse, I’d be surprised if anyone thought he was. He’s best used strategically in a timeshare with another RB who can take the pounding.
As long as Achane gets the same kind of work he did in 2023, owners shouldn’t care how Mostert and/or Wright factor into the mix. If anything, Achane owners should embrace the idea of limiting his touches to an extent so that he can be available all season long.
Until Achane can prove to stay on the field, call me skeptical.
Think of him like Jamaal Charles .. Only needs 10-15 touches a game to win your weekI'm struggling with how to rank him in redraft.
He's super fast, talented, explosive. He can break any touch for a touchdown.
He also had insane efficiency last year. Almost 8 yards per carry, a touchdown per game. That has to come back to earth to an extent. Especially if he gets utilized more. That game vs Denver where they went nuts, I think Denver had tapped out at one point and that inflated the TD numbers a bit.
Obvioulsy they're not going to give him some huge workload. They want to keep him fresh/healthy. Even then, after the injuries last year, I would expect he's gonna miss 2-3 games.
I'm thinking 14 games, he gets ~140 rushes at closer to 5.5 ypc. That puts him at 770 rushing yards. They do use him in the redzone a decent amount. I was surprised to see so many touchdowns inside the 20's. I'm assuming 6-7 rushing TD's.
I'll assume he gets a bit more passing game work. Assuming he gets to ~3 catches per game with similar yards per receptions: 42 receptions, 300 yards, 2-3 touchdowns
Rough/early projection: 182 touches (13/game). 1070 total yards, 9 or 10 touchdowns across 14 games.
Until Achane can prove to stay on the field, call meskeptical. SMART!
Where does that rank him on your list and where does that stack up to his ADP currently?I'm struggling with how to rank him in redraft.
He's super fast, talented, explosive. He can break any touch for a touchdown.
He also had insane efficiency last year. Almost 8 yards per carry, a touchdown per game. That has to come back to earth to an extent. Especially if he gets utilized more. That game vs Denver where they went nuts, I think Denver had tapped out at one point and that inflated the TD numbers a bit.
Obvioulsy they're not going to give him some huge workload. They want to keep him fresh/healthy. Even then, after the injuries last year, I would expect he's gonna miss 2-3 games.
I'm thinking 14 games, he gets ~140 rushes at closer to 5.5 ypc. That puts him at 770 rushing yards. They do use him in the redzone a decent amount. I was surprised to see so many touchdowns inside the 20's. I'm assuming 6-7 rushing TD's.
I'll assume he gets a bit more passing game work. Assuming he gets to ~3 catches per game with similar yards per receptions: 42 receptions, 300 yards, 2-3 touchdowns
Rough/early projection: 182 touches (13/game). 1070 total yards, 9 or 10 touchdowns across 14 games.
I think Achane is a guy who showed as much big play ability as anyone in the NFL in his rookie season. At times he reminded me quite a bit of Jamaal Charles. Obviously, 7+ YPC isn't something that's repeatable, but I don't see any reason why his workload couldn't massively grow. I think he's likely to be used more often on the passing game, and I think he could absolutely lead the team in carries as well. I'm not saying those should be the 100% expectations, but I think the idea that Achane is an ancillary guy is unfair to him. I'd go so far as to say, I think Achane and Gibbs are pretty much the same guy. Highly explosive 2nd year guys, in good offenses, with a solid veteran RB in the backfield with them, but a real chance they could both leave that veteran in the dust a bit.I'm struggling with how to rank him in redraft.
He's super fast, talented, explosive. He can break any touch for a touchdown.
He also had insane efficiency last year. Almost 8 yards per carry, a touchdown per game. That has to come back to earth to an extent. Especially if he gets utilized more. That game vs Denver where they went nuts, I think Denver had tapped out at one point and that inflated the TD numbers a bit.
Obvioulsy they're not going to give him some huge workload. They want to keep him fresh/healthy. Even then, after the injuries last year, I would expect he's gonna miss 2-3 games.
I'm thinking 14 games, he gets ~140 rushes at closer to 5.5 ypc. That puts him at 770 rushing yards. They do use him in the redzone a decent amount. I was surprised to see so many touchdowns inside the 20's. I'm assuming 6-7 rushing TD's.
I'll assume he gets a bit more passing game work. Assuming he gets to ~3 catches per game with similar yards per receptions: 42 receptions, 300 yards, 2-3 touchdowns
Rough/early projection: 182 touches (13/game). 1070 total yards, 9 or 10 touchdowns across 14 games.
I’ve got an old school standard league and pick 10. I am eyeing a RB like Taylor in round 1 and turning right around for Achane. I love the upside of a team like that.I'd be ecstatic if I could somehow wind up with him as my RB2.
If this is an "Old School" standard league I don't see how Taylor lasts until pick 10I’ve got an old school standard league and pick 10. I am eyeing a RB like Taylor in round 1
Because all the current draft talk, podcasts, etc are geared towards PPR and are pushing WRs.If this is an "Old School" standard league I don't see how Taylor lasts until pick 10I’ve got an old school standard league and pick 10. I am eyeing a RB like Taylor in round 1
Then that wouldn't be an "old school" league. To me that means they aren't leaning into the new-fangled PPR skew.Because all the current draft talk, podcasts, etc are geared towards PPR and are pushing WRs.If this is an "Old School" standard league I don't see how Taylor lasts until pick 10I’ve got an old school standard league and pick 10. I am eyeing a RB like Taylor in round 1
I just mean it’s standard scoring, no flex.Then that wouldn't be an "old school" league. To me that means they aren't leaning into the new-fangled PPR skew.Because all the current draft talk, podcasts, etc are geared towards PPR and are pushing WRs.If this is an "Old School" standard league I don't see how Taylor lasts until pick 10I’ve got an old school standard league and pick 10. I am eyeing a RB like Taylor in round 1