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RB Jordan Mason, MIN (1 Viewer)
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VikingFrog
Footballguy
Maybe he knows he’s starting Sunday and this was all a ruse like week 1. lol.
Proteus
Footballguy
I think he asked for them to delay it so he can hurt his fantasy managers one last time.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I’d laugh my behind off if that happens.
Very surprising seeing the second round tag when it was a mass exodus of players yesterday, much of it driven by money. Plus all those five 3rd-4th rounds picks they have to keep picking RB's. Plus they even re-signed Patrick Taylor. So confusing.
I'd have to guess there is a chance they did this to retain his rights and could trade him at some point. I don't think they are going to be able to help themselves drafting another RB. It's going to be so crowded and they could have 20 RB's active on gameday but there is only one RB they want to give the ball to so long as he's available.
Agreed of all the things SF has done his offseason this is the one thing they didn't need to do.
Also for Mason, let the guy play. I think he will be a great starter somewhere
efactor
Footballguy
I think with tendering Mason, resigning Taylor to go along with CMC and Gurrendo, it's a sign they won't be drafting a RB despite the depth of the class. Lot of holes to fill this year.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
I know CMC says he's healthy, but this kind of makes me wonder how healthy.
I’ll bet my life they draft a RB.
If you don’t know go look at how many draft picks they have
rockaction
Footballguy
11, 43, 75, 99, 112, 138, 139, 149, 189, 228, 232, 255
Twelve picks. But are the guys going that late going to be any good and will they fill their holes with earlier picks? The RB picks might not stick at all. I don't know. Mason and Guerendo flashed big time for them.
Elijah Mitchell signed with the Chiefs, by the way, in case anybody was wondering. 1.5 million dollars or something like that.
eta* But I don't doubt you. If you can get another potential starter in the fourth or fifth, you kind of feel obliged given CMC's status.
Twelve picks. But are the guys going that late going to be any good and will they fill their holes with earlier picks? The RB picks might not stick at all. I don't know. Mason and Guerendo flashed big time for them.
Elijah Mitchell signed with the Chiefs, by the way, in case anybody was wondering. 1.5 million dollars or something like that.
eta* But I don't doubt you. If you can get another potential starter in the fourth or fifth, you kind of feel obliged given CMC's status.
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efactor
Footballguy
Oh I'm aware of how many picks they have. Based on the moves so far, they will be building depth in the secondary, DL and OL. As stated, they have a lot of holes to fill.
It's a good thing there's not a "bet your life" prop on FanDuel. I would miss your postings
Don't know if they'll stick, they actually have been pretty bad at drafting RB's(Sermons, TDR) and when they actually draft one that can play they can't stay healthy (Gurrendo/Mitchell)
Heard McShay say a few weeks ago he has a draftable grade on over 35 RB's. Most he's ever had. Other's I listen to are expecting 30 RB's to get drafted. It's going to push some really talented RB's to late, maybe a guy who would have been a 4-5th last year is kicking around in 6-7 this year.
I just don't see a team that has drafted 4 RB's in the last 4 years, 3 of them in rounds 3-4, have 12 picks and not use a single one of them on a RB in what is probably the deepest RB class of all time.
rockaction
Footballguy
I definitely see what you're saying. I'd bet on it also.
efactor
Footballguy
I just don't see them carrying 5 RBs. Maybe they cut Taylor
Yes, agree. I don't know what that Taylor signing was about but honestly I don't even factor him into the equation. Guessing that one year deal he signed was league minimum with very little guarantees.I just don't see them carrying 5 RBs. Maybe they cut Taylor
Don't forget Abankanda, they got 5 RB's on the team right now before they even draft. One may use that as a reason they won't draft a RB, this one says it's an example of how they can't help themselves, always in search of finding the next RB he thinks he can make a star.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Rookie drafting 101 - outside of #11, none of these guys are expected to contribute day 1. Tendering a player for ~$5m / 1 yr they see as a #2 RB that can more than fill-in as a #1 in case their now risky incumbent can't go is a lot different than the multi year commitments the guys they lost yesterday signed. Niners are gonna be spending those picks hoping they uncover another Winters, Mustapha, or...Mason. They started what, 4 different backs last year? And from memory that isn't much different for them vs the pre-CMC days. Those in our game don't want to read it, but history justifies their volume approach.
Just came across this and had to laugh. (*there appears to some confusion on if they have 11 or 12 picks and if one of them is a 4th or 5th round pick, no idea what that's all about)
49ers expecting 11 picks in April9
1st: DE
2nd: DT
3rd: DT
3rd: DE
4th: Edge
4th: DT
5th: DT
6th: Run stuffer
7th: DE
7th: DT
7th: K
efactor
Footballguy
Pretty sure it’s 11. They were counting their own 5th which they had to give up for a cap violation.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
My FF dream has come true…
zamboni
Footballguy
Sounds like a thunder and lightning approach ahead
Boston
Footballguy
Wow...Mason and Jones...that is one interesting backfield...real football it is very legit...fantasy-wise there is a lot to unpack.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Probably right, but I think Mason is a good fit and will end leading the Vikes in carries (with a fair shot of a good TD total).
Donnybrook
Footballguy
2 year. I guess that still opens the door for the Vikings to draft a back - no real cap hit if they cut him in 2026. At least that is way i understand it.
zamboni
Footballguy
They only have 4 picks this year - 1st, 3rd and two 5ths. Sure they could use one on an RB, but have to think it’s a much lower priority with that little draft capital.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
This is a deep RB draft class and they addressed a lot of positions in free agency. They actually still have a 6th because SF traded the 187 and Mason for the 160 overall.
Vikings, of course, need depth as lot of the starters are aging. If the right RB falls to them they could carry 4 into the season. Bring in the competition for Chandler.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
Actually I stand corrected. Vikings only have 4 picks.
Round 1: 24th overall
Round 3: 97th overall
Round 4: 139th overall
Round 6: 187th overall
Round 1: 24th overall
Round 3: 97th overall
Round 4: 139th overall
Round 6: 187th overall
Football Jones
Footballguy
I like this for Mason's dynast prospects. Jones is one of the oldest RBs in the league and has trouble staying healthy.
This looks to be a Thunder & Lightning tandem with Mason as the Thunder. Another good move by the Vikes.
This looks to be a Thunder & Lightning tandem with Mason as the Thunder. Another good move by the Vikes.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I also like it for the Niners. Mason is a good RB, but a terrible fit for Shanny’s scheme. Needs to be able to run a big route tree & catch the ball. He wasn’t great at either reportedly.
And Guerendo showed out every time he played. Home run hitter. IMO he made Mason expendable.
Plus Shanny will probably draft another one and the cycle of torment for FF shareholders will continue. I blame his father. Hurt people hurt people and all that.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
They had 2x 3rds and 2x 4ths before the Mason deal. I didn’t see the return on that one.
Just don't need him or value him for $3m. I had said in the Free Agent thread before FA started that the main value I saw in them putting the tender on him was to try and trade him. They did the best they could.
rockaction
Footballguy
Huh. He's likely the best pure runner on the Vikings right now. Maybe I'm too impressed by how he ran against the Jets, but he broke that defense before it was broken. Totally exposed them during that game. He's a hard, one-cut runner.
I like him and would try to acquire him. I think he starts when Jones gets injured and never really gives that role up once he does. Bold call right here from me right now. The Vikings are savvy and wanted him for a reason, it seems. Flesh out the RB room without having to use any picks on Day One or Day Two. Get your Day Three back in a proven form.
eta* Apparently travdogg agrees with me (says he'll lead the team in carries). It's also the seven million guaranteed (what are the guarantees, exactly?) that got me. Looks like they're investing in him a decent amount, unless it's a roster bonus they're counting as a guarantee.
I like him and would try to acquire him. I think he starts when Jones gets injured and never really gives that role up once he does. Bold call right here from me right now. The Vikings are savvy and wanted him for a reason, it seems. Flesh out the RB room without having to use any picks on Day One or Day Two. Get your Day Three back in a proven form.
eta* Apparently travdogg agrees with me (says he'll lead the team in carries). It's also the seven million guaranteed (what are the guarantees, exactly?) that got me. Looks like they're investing in him a decent amount, unless it's a roster bonus they're counting as a guarantee.
Kevrunner
Footballguy
This is from Profootballtalk article:
The official numbers are in for the new deal to be signed by new Vikings running back Jordan Mason.
He’s getting a two-year deal to replace his one-year, second-round restricted free agency tender of $5.346 million.
Here are the full details, per a source with knowledge of the terms:
1. Signing bonus: $4 million.
2. 2025 offseason workout bonus: $100,000
3. 2025 base salary: $1.23 million, fully guaranteed.
4. 2025 per-game roster bonus: $10,000 per game, up to $170,000.
5. 2026 workout bonus: $100,000.
6. 2025 base salary: $4.73 million, $2 million of which is fully guaranteed.
7. 2026 per-game roster bonus: $10,000 per game, up to $170,000.
The deal also includes incentives for each of the two seasons. He gets $200,000 for 800 rushing yards or $350,000 for 900 rushing yards or $500,000 for 1,000 rushing yards.
He also gets a salary escalator for 2026 under this formula: $200,000 for 800 rushing yards or $350,000 for 900 rushing yards or $500,000 for 1,000 rushing yards.
It’s a base deal of $10.5 million with $7.23 million fully guaranteed at signing. He can make up to $1.5 million more in incentives and escalators. Giving it a maximum value of $12 million.
Jordan Mason’s Contract Details
The official numbers are in for the new deal to be signed by new Vikings running back Jordan Mason.
He’s getting a two-year deal to replace his one-year, second-round restricted free agency tender of $5.346 million.
Here are the full details, per a source with knowledge of the terms:
1. Signing bonus: $4 million.
2. 2025 offseason workout bonus: $100,000
3. 2025 base salary: $1.23 million, fully guaranteed.
4. 2025 per-game roster bonus: $10,000 per game, up to $170,000.
5. 2026 workout bonus: $100,000.
6. 2025 base salary: $4.73 million, $2 million of which is fully guaranteed.
7. 2026 per-game roster bonus: $10,000 per game, up to $170,000.
The deal also includes incentives for each of the two seasons. He gets $200,000 for 800 rushing yards or $350,000 for 900 rushing yards or $500,000 for 1,000 rushing yards.
He also gets a salary escalator for 2026 under this formula: $200,000 for 800 rushing yards or $350,000 for 900 rushing yards or $500,000 for 1,000 rushing yards.
It’s a base deal of $10.5 million with $7.23 million fully guaranteed at signing. He can make up to $1.5 million more in incentives and escalators. Giving it a maximum value of $12 million.
Jordan Mason’s Contract Details
zamboni
Footballguy
It will be interesting to see how the team uses both RBs, but have to think both Mason and Jones will be used a lot. Hard to imagine Jones getting another 300 touches in his age 30 season like he did last year - while he obviously did very well, a lot seemed out of necessity because Chandler proved to be less than expected and Akers was just Akers.
rockaction
Footballguy
I would pump the brakes on my excitement. I got all excited when Matt Breida went to Miami from San Fancisco after he had that game against Cleveland. Turns out he was a system RB like a lot of the other San Francisco guys. I wonder if Mason falls victim to just having success in a Shanahan scheme.
I wanna give him the benefit of the doubt. So I will.
I wanna give him the benefit of the doubt. So I will.
efactor
Footballguy
As a 49er fan and having watched both of them, Brieda was a system RB. Mason is a much better pure runner and obviously much bigger and stronger.
If Jones gets dinged up again and missed substantial time, I have my doubts he will get this job back.
efactor
Footballguy
Several articles about how Mason worked hard in the off season last year on his pass catching ability. Decent hands, but not a very good route runner. Screens and check downs, he is fine but won't see many down the field type plays run for him.
zamboni
Footballguy
Which is fine if he doesn't get down the field work - not too many RBs do that anyway. Just hoping for a bit of that easy PPR stuff.
Isn't it a similar system?
He's not fluid.
Idk how to coach it and be pretentious here.
In high school backs almost forget to secure the ball sometimes so then the next snap they have an awkward pause as they make sure they've got it.
Mason looks like a pro version of that. A lot of backs do. Catch it with your bod on an angle or somesuch and go! All these type backs have vision and moves and all but they're not using it because they're way too focused on catching it and their first move is to turn the wrong way putting their back to the defense.
Parcells used to run a drill with two defenders 7? yards away and a TE inside headed to block. The back catches a screen and has to get past em and use the TEs block. I guess this is what Mason needs. It's not ability. It's not hands. It's like an unawareness that if he does A or B he's gonna get hit or have loss of yards.
Throw it to Mason on a little RB curl dump play and he catches it and keeps moving and it's a nice looking play. He clearly has all the awareness and ability needed but throw him a screen and he's out of sorts.
I don't attend practices to offer an opinion really but...I think he needs that drill. Needs to stink at it, learn, and work thru it.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
I assume #6 is a typo and should be 2026 salary?
Seems like a bad deal. He already had $5.346 guaranteed for 2025 tender, he's now locked in for 2026 too with a max of $12M. He really capped his earning potential in his prime years, he'll be 27 peeking at 28 in May when he's a free agent next. Tony Pollard signed for 3/$21M at age 26 and that was before the annual cap hike, which will hit again next year. I think most players would have waiting and bet on themselves, especially ones going into that offense with as much heir-apparent potential as he has.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
Even as an Aaron Jones fan...his performance inside the 5 just hasn't been a strong suit. At the same time, his receiving ability out of the backfield is top tier while Mason was largely ignored in SF, so I doubt a healthy Jones is rendered an RB2 on his own team.
efactor
Footballguy
OK but I could easily see a move away from Jones as the primary ball carrier. Especially if he gets banged up. Granted, a much better receiver than Mason.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
One of the things that the Vikings probably like most is his ability to pass protect. (Probably not what most fantasy owners want to hear.)
